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Title: TOP 50 WEST COAST (SOCAL) RAPPERS
Post by: Sccit on August 08, 2019, 09:36:59 PM
since itís impossible to get all the legends in 1 list, iím doin mine by region

https://www.instagram.com/p/B07OT6wnFi2/?igshid=1dw48xn138pj3

up next = bay area/norcal

 8)
Title: Re: TOP 50 WEST COAST (SOCAL) RAPPERS
Post by: LostAngel on August 08, 2019, 11:57:29 PM
Pretty much my TOP 10.

Anyways, why do people get hurt by those lists that get online just to get your attention? Jay-Z #1? C'mon dude, at start, thats a joke.
Title: Re: TOP 50 WEST COAST (SOCAL) RAPPERS
Post by: Sccit on August 09, 2019, 12:39:46 AM
Pretty much my TOP 10.

Anyways, why do people get hurt by those lists that get online just to get your attention? Jay-Z #1? C'mon dude, at start, thats a joke.

lol just look at the comments on my ig post .. i got some1 saying ďdaz>pacĒ up in there
Title: Re: TOP 50 WEST COAST (SOCAL) RAPPERS
Post by: doggfather on August 09, 2019, 12:43:13 AM
interesting.
Title: Re: TOP 50 WEST COAST (SOCAL) RAPPERS
Post by: Sccit on August 09, 2019, 10:36:14 AM
just missed the list = goldie loc, chali 2na, mitchy slick
Title: Re: TOP 50 WEST COAST (SOCAL) RAPPERS
Post by: Malcy on August 09, 2019, 12:52:43 PM
Pretty much my TOP 10.

Anyways, why do people get hurt by those lists that get online just to get your attention? Jay-Z #1? C'mon dude, at start, thats a joke.

lol just look at the comments on my ig post .. i got some1 saying ďdaz>pacĒ up in there

And? It's that persons personal preference. Personally Pac wouldn't even make my top 50.
Title: Re: TOP 50 WEST COAST (SOCAL) RAPPERS
Post by: Sccit on August 09, 2019, 01:32:21 PM
Pretty much my TOP 10.

Anyways, why do people get hurt by those lists that get online just to get your attention? Jay-Z #1? C'mon dude, at start, thats a joke.

lol just look at the comments on my ig post .. i got some1 saying ďdaz>pacĒ up in there

Personally Pac wouldn't even make my top 50.


 :snoopfacepalm:
Title: Re: TOP 50 WEST COAST (SOCAL) RAPPERS
Post by: Malcy on August 09, 2019, 01:50:56 PM
Pretty much my TOP 10.

Anyways, why do people get hurt by those lists that get online just to get your attention? Jay-Z #1? C'mon dude, at start, thats a joke.

lol just look at the comments on my ig post .. i got some1 saying ďdaz>pacĒ up in there

Personally Pac wouldn't even make my top 50.


 :snoopfacepalm:

Problem?
Title: Re: TOP 50 WEST COAST (SOCAL) RAPPERS
Post by: Sccit on August 09, 2019, 02:25:37 PM
Pretty much my TOP 10.

Anyways, why do people get hurt by those lists that get online just to get your attention? Jay-Z #1? C'mon dude, at start, thats a joke.

lol just look at the comments on my ig post .. i got some1 saying ďdaz>pacĒ up in there

Personally Pac wouldn't even make my top 50.


 :snoopfacepalm:

Problem?

yea.. thatís blasphemous

iíd love to see your list
Title: Re: TOP 50 WEST COAST (SOCAL) RAPPERS
Post by: Okka on August 10, 2019, 03:33:31 AM
I've been workin' on a list for a while now. I'll try to get it done and I'll post it.
Title: Re: TOP 50 WEST COAST (SOCAL) RAPPERS
Post by: riphuero on August 10, 2019, 07:04:26 AM
This list is off. These rappers need to be on it.
Mr. Criminal
Sick Jacken
Defari
K-Dee
Nate Dogg
Slow Pain
Frank V
I can go on ...
Title: Re: TOP 50 WEST COAST (SOCAL) RAPPERS
Post by: Sccit on August 10, 2019, 10:00:22 AM
This list is off. These rappers need to be on it.
Mr. Criminal
Sick Jacken
Defari
K-Dee
Nate Dogg
Slow Pain
Frank V
I can go on ...

nate dogg is not a rapper

sick jacken and defari were right outside my top 50, along with mitchy slick, amg, knocturnal, hittman, goldie loc, chali 2na, foesum, lil half dead and a few others..... hard to narrow it down to 50 wit so many legends in the game.
Title: Re: TOP 50 WEST COAST (SOCAL) RAPPERS
Post by: SuperSpider on August 10, 2019, 01:08:04 PM
Not really arguing since it is all down to personal preference of course, but

This list is off. These rappers need to be on it.
Mr. Criminal
Slow Pain
Frank V
I can go on ...

Come on cuh....... also Nate was not a rapper, as pointed out already

since itís impossible to get all the legends in 1 list, iím doin mine by region

https://www.instagram.com/p/B07OT6wnFi2/?igshid=1dw48xn138pj3

up next = bay area/norcal

 8)

Eazy won't even make my top 50, one of the most overrated rappers period imo. Pac and Snoop would be lower on my list. Bad Azz before Crooked I?! Kokane above Nip?! Murs, Young Maylay, Knoc-turn'al, Hopsin, Glasses Malone, Blu, Sly Boogy, Ab-Soul, Eligh, Jay Rock & maybe Twisted Insane woulda all made it to my list.

Interested in seeing your Norcal/Bay Area list when you make it, Sccit
Title: Re: TOP 50 WEST COAST (SOCAL) RAPPERS
Post by: Sccit on August 10, 2019, 01:19:44 PM
Not really arguing since it is all down to personal preference of course, but

This list is off. These rappers need to be on it.
Mr. Criminal
Slow Pain
Frank V
I can go on ...

Come on cuh....... also Nate was not a rapper, as pointed out already

since itís impossible to get all the legends in 1 list, iím doin mine by region

https://www.instagram.com/p/B07OT6wnFi2/?igshid=1dw48xn138pj3

up next = bay area/norcal

 8)

Eazy won't even make my top 50, one of the most overrated rappers period imo. Pac and Snoop would be lower on my list. Bad Azz before Crooked I?! Kokane above Nip?! Murs, Young Maylay, Knoc-turn'al, Hopsin, Glasses Malone, Blu, Sly Boogy, Ab-Soul & maybe Twisted Insane woulda all made it to my list.

Interested in seeing your Norcal/Bay Area list when you make it, Sccit

please read my criteria ... legacy, impact, catalogue, and stature all factor into it. obviously, crooked i is a better pure emcee than eazy. but once u factor in the rest, eazy is a certified rap icon with classic albums and some of the most timeless songs in rap history.
Title: Re: TOP 50 WEST COAST (SOCAL) RAPPERS
Post by: SuperSpider on August 10, 2019, 01:28:30 PM
please read my criteria ... legacy, impact, catalogue, and stature all factor into it. obviously, crooked i is a better pure emcee than eazy. but once u factor in the rest, eazy is a certified rap icon with classic albums and some of the most timeless songs in rap history.

Yeah you are right, that changes things a lot actually and your list makes more sense in that case. I just looked at the IG link integrated in your post, never clicked on the link, so didn't realize you had all the criteria listed. Pac definitely top 1 in that case and whoever argues has to be a fool
Title: Re: TOP 50 WEST COAST (SOCAL) RAPPERS
Post by: HighEyeCue on August 10, 2019, 01:35:39 PM
nice list 8)

you could even put Pac at 1 from NorCal, he repped it heavy early in his career
Title: Re: TOP 50 WEST COAST (SOCAL) RAPPERS
Post by: Okka on August 11, 2019, 06:04:29 AM
Eazy won't even make my top 50, one of the most overrated rappers period imo. Pac and Snoop would be lower on my list. Bad Azz before Crooked I?! Kokane above Nip?! Murs, Young Maylay, Knoc-turn'al, Hopsin, Glasses Malone, Blu, Sly Boogy, Ab-Soul, Eligh, Jay Rock & maybe Twisted Insane woulda all made it to my list.

Interested in seeing your Norcal/Bay Area list when you make it, Sccit

I'd put Bad Azz above too. "Word On Tha Streetz", "Personal Business" and the LBC Crew album are all classics.
Title: Re: TOP 50 WEST COAST (SOCAL) RAPPERS
Post by: SuperSpider on August 11, 2019, 09:29:53 AM
Eazy won't even make my top 50, one of the most overrated rappers period imo. Pac and Snoop would be lower on my list. Bad Azz before Crooked I?! Kokane above Nip?! Murs, Young Maylay, Knoc-turn'al, Hopsin, Glasses Malone, Blu, Sly Boogy, Ab-Soul, Eligh, Jay Rock & maybe Twisted Insane woulda all made it to my list.

Interested in seeing your Norcal/Bay Area list when you make it, Sccit

I'd put Bad Azz above too. "Word On Tha Streetz", "Personal Business" and the LBC Crew album are all classics.

I did kind of agree with Sccit once he pointed out there was the extra criteria of having classic albums and impact being taken into consideration, so yeah in that case Bad Azz would be higher than Crooked on the list. On the other hand Bad Azz had a few good years and faded into obscurity whereas Crooked is increasingly more relevant even nowadays with a career spanning 23+ years. Not to mention being much better skill-wise and being as prolific as they come. His catalogue is rivaled by very few rappers overall (the likes of Lil Wayne, Snoop Dogg, Kurupt, Slim Thug, Chalie Boy possibly E-40 & Kokane) in terms of how many tracks he's put out/been on through the years.
Title: Re: TOP 50 WEST COAST (SOCAL) RAPPERS
Post by: riphuero on August 11, 2019, 09:51:13 AM
Mack 10 number 30. This list is way off.
Title: Re: TOP 50 WEST COAST (SOCAL) RAPPERS
Post by: Sccit on August 11, 2019, 11:15:35 AM
Eazy won't even make my top 50, one of the most overrated rappers period imo. Pac and Snoop would be lower on my list. Bad Azz before Crooked I?! Kokane above Nip?! Murs, Young Maylay, Knoc-turn'al, Hopsin, Glasses Malone, Blu, Sly Boogy, Ab-Soul, Eligh, Jay Rock & maybe Twisted Insane woulda all made it to my list.

Interested in seeing your Norcal/Bay Area list when you make it, Sccit

I'd put Bad Azz above too. "Word On Tha Streetz", "Personal Business" and the LBC Crew album are all classics.

I did kind of agree with Sccit once he pointed out there was the extra criteria of having classic albums and impact being taken into consideration, so yeah in that case Bad Azz would be higher than Crooked on the list. On the other hand Bad Azz had a few good years and faded into obscurity whereas Crooked is increasingly more relevant even nowadays with a career spanning 23+ years. Not to mention being much better skill-wise and being as prolific as they come. His catalogue is rivaled by very few rappers overall (the likes of Lil Wayne, Snoop Dogg, Kurupt, Slim Thug, Chalie Boy possibly E-40 & Kokane) in terms of how many tracks he's put out/been on through the years.

the problem wit crooked i is that he didnít drop a solo in his prime and doesnít have classic albums in his catalogue ala bad azz
Title: Re: TOP 50 WEST COAST (SOCAL) RAPPERS
Post by: Sccit on August 11, 2019, 11:17:36 AM
Mack 10 number 30. This list is way off.

whatís wrong with mack 10 at 30?? his first 2 or 3 albums are classix and bow down is a monumental album in west coast hip-hop.

lets see your list tho

Title: Re: TOP 50 WEST COAST (SOCAL) RAPPERS
Post by: dnjp4life on August 11, 2019, 12:10:17 PM
Good list, don't think anyone notable has been left out (apart from maybe Earl Sweatshirt but that's just personal preference).  Was wondering why someone like Crooked I was so low down the list until I read the criteria for your entries.

MC Eiht should be higher on the list, but maybe I'm only saying that cos I've been listening to him heavy recently  :D
Title: Re: TOP 50 WEST COAST (SOCAL) RAPPERS
Post by: Sccit on August 11, 2019, 12:41:28 PM
Good list, don't think anyone notable has been left out (apart from maybe Earl Sweatshirt but that's just personal preference).  Was wondering why someone like Crooked I was so low down the list until I read the criteria for your entries.

MC Eiht should be higher on the list, but maybe I'm only saying that cos I've been listening to him heavy recently  :D

some1 on boxden pointed out earl sweatshirt .. cant think of anyone i would remove for him

eiht is a certified legend, but bar for bar, most of the rappers above him (and a lot under him) are better pure emcees
Title: Re: TOP 50 WEST COAST (SOCAL) RAPPERS
Post by: riphuero on August 11, 2019, 10:21:49 PM
This list is off. These rappers need to be on it.
Mr. Criminal
Sick Jacken
Defari
K-Dee
Nate Dogg
Slow Pain
Frank V
I can go on ...

nate dogg is not a rapper

sick jacken and defari were right outside my top 50, along with mitchy slick, amg, knocturnal, hittman, goldie loc, chali 2na, foesum, lil half dead and a few others..... hard to narrow it down to 50 wit so many legends in the game.
Nate dogg not a rapper says it all. Nate was rapping but thatís what made him original.
Title: Re: TOP 50 WEST COAST (SOCAL) RAPPERS
Post by: riphuero on August 11, 2019, 10:23:46 PM
Mack 10 number 30. This list is way off.

whatís wrong with mack 10 at 30?? his first 2 or 3 albums are classix and bow down is a monumental album in west coast hip-hop.

lets see your list tho
Xzibit number 5 doesnít even want me to argue with you but I have to respect your opinion. Keep it west coast
Title: Re: TOP 50 WEST COAST (SOCAL) RAPPERS
Post by: dp on August 12, 2019, 12:10:29 AM
I see your point about everything being included, but Suga Free is top 5 for me based on skills alone.  Nobody does it like he does.
Title: Re: TOP 50 WEST COAST (SOCAL) RAPPERS
Post by: SuperSpider on August 12, 2019, 07:17:19 PM
I see your point about everything being included, but Suga Free is top 5 for me based on skills alone.  Nobody does it like he does.

This was the SoCal list
Title: Re: TOP 50 WEST COAST (SOCAL) RAPPERS
Post by: h2k4 on August 12, 2019, 07:33:48 PM
Interesting list, to say the least. There are some that I wouldn't have put on there or placed as high but there was definitely some thought put into it.
Title: Re: TOP 50 WEST COAST (SOCAL) RAPPERS
Post by: Sccit on August 12, 2019, 09:53:08 PM
I see your point about everything being included, but Suga Free is top 5 for me based on skills alone.  Nobody does it like he does.

This was the SoCal list

suga free is from socal .. heís number 12, which is actually pretty damn high
Title: Re: TOP 50 WEST COAST (SOCAL) RAPPERS
Post by: Duck Duck Doggy on August 13, 2019, 10:30:46 PM
This is a solid list. Very similar to my own
Title: Re: TOP 50 WEST COAST (SOCAL) RAPPERS
Post by: Infinite Trapped in 1996 on August 15, 2019, 12:18:42 AM
List isnít far from my own... but how can you say West Coast without Nate?   Nate can not be categorized as an R&B or a soul singer like Mary J.  The shit Nate does is the same as the Bone singing on a record and you wouldnít say that Bone is R&B?

Now put the fallen legend in his proper place in the top 10
Title: Re: TOP 50 WEST COAST (SOCAL) RAPPERS
Post by: SuperSpider on August 15, 2019, 03:01:19 AM
List isnít far from my own... but how can you say West Coast without Nate?   Nate can not be categorized as an R&B or a soul singer like Mary J.  The shit Nate does is the same as the Bone singing on a record and you wouldnít say that Bone is R&B?

Now put the fallen legend in his proper place in the top 10

But Bone Thugz also (and predominantly) rap apart from singing on records. Nate has only ever rapped on one record unlike Kokane for example, it's apples and oranges really. If you put Nate on the list then Butch has to be on it too and once you get onto that side of the genre where would you stop ...Bo Roc, LV and so on


Title: Re: TOP 50 WEST COAST (SOCAL) RAPPERS
Post by: Sccit on August 15, 2019, 08:57:22 AM
List isnít far from my own... but how can you say West Coast without Nate?   Nate can not be categorized as an R&B or a soul singer like Mary J.  The shit Nate does is the same as the Bone singing on a record and you wouldnít say that Bone is R&B?

Now put the fallen legend in his proper place in the top 10
.

bone thugs are rappers who harmonize, nate strictly sings.. so thats a terrible example.

just because nate is prominent in west coast hip-hop doesnít make him a rapper. he would go on a singer list.

if u wanna put nate on there, we gota put butch cassidy, danny boy, bo roc, michelíle, anderson paak .. where do we draw the line?

if u consider nate an emcee, then ur not being genuine.

Title: Re: TOP 50 WEST COAST (SOCAL) RAPPERS
Post by: Sccit on August 15, 2019, 08:58:07 AM
List isnít far from my own... but how can you say West Coast without Nate?   Nate can not be categorized as an R&B or a soul singer like Mary J.  The shit Nate does is the same as the Bone singing on a record and you wouldnít say that Bone is R&B?

Now put the fallen legend in his proper place in the top 10

But Bone Thugz also (and predominantly) rap apart from singing on records. Nate has only ever rapped on one record unlike Kokane for example, it's apples and oranges really. If you put Nate on the list then Butch has to be on it too and once you get onto that side of the genre where would you stop ...Bo Roc, LV and so on

exactly


nate is not a rapper .. heís said that himself.
Title: Re: TOP 50 WEST COAST (SOCAL) RAPPERS
Post by: Infinite Trapped in 1996 on August 17, 2019, 01:18:52 AM
List isnít far from my own... but how can you say West Coast without Nate?   Nate can not be categorized as an R&B or a soul singer like Mary J.  The shit Nate does is the same as the Bone singing on a record and you wouldnít say that Bone is R&B?

Now put the fallen legend in his proper place in the top 10

But Bone Thugz also (and predominantly) rap apart from singing on records. Nate has only ever rapped on one record unlike Kokane for example, it's apples and oranges really. If you put Nate on the list then Butch has to be on it too and once you get onto that side of the genre where would you stop ...Bo Roc, LV and so on

Look, it's a bit subjective cause I do realize the dude is "singing" so I understand why some might not place him as a rapper. 

...But everything else about Nate says he is a rapper.  Production is hip-hop, collaborators are hip-hop (it's not like he was doing tracks with Whitney Houston and Brian Mcknight) styles are all hip-hop, demeanor is hip-hop, the fans of his music are rap fans not R&B fans, the same people that are listenin to Dogg Pound are the same people that are loyal to Nate.  I mean everything about the dude is hip-hop, but just because he is singing on a record...

He should be called A RAPPER WHO SINGS!

It's all subjective and up to the journalists and marketing execs to figure out and if I remember correctly they did used to place him in the rap section of stores.

So my West Coast Rap list would have all them dudes on it like...

7.  Nate
34. Kokane
39.  Butch Cassidy

...something like that
Title: Re: TOP 50 WEST COAST (SOCAL) RAPPERS
Post by: SuperSpider on August 17, 2019, 02:12:31 AM
List isnít far from my own... but how can you say West Coast without Nate?   Nate can not be categorized as an R&B or a soul singer like Mary J.  The shit Nate does is the same as the Bone singing on a record and you wouldnít say that Bone is R&B?

Now put the fallen legend in his proper place in the top 10

But Bone Thugz also (and predominantly) rap apart from singing on records. Nate has only ever rapped on one record unlike Kokane for example, it's apples and oranges really. If you put Nate on the list then Butch has to be on it too and once you get onto that side of the genre where would you stop ...Bo Roc, LV and so on

collaborators are hip-hop (it's not like he was doing tracks with Whitney Houston and Brian Mcknight)

Lol come on now, are you even trying  ;D ;D ;D

https://www.youtube.com/v/50E3X1qhCAM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50E3X1qhCAM)
Title: Re: TOP 50 WEST COAST (SOCAL) RAPPERS
Post by: Sccit on August 17, 2019, 05:32:40 AM
List isnít far from my own... but how can you say West Coast without Nate?   Nate can not be categorized as an R&B or a soul singer like Mary J.  The shit Nate does is the same as the Bone singing on a record and you wouldnít say that Bone is R&B?

Now put the fallen legend in his proper place in the top 10

But Bone Thugz also (and predominantly) rap apart from singing on records. Nate has only ever rapped on one record unlike Kokane for example, it's apples and oranges really. If you put Nate on the list then Butch has to be on it too and once you get onto that side of the genre where would you stop ...Bo Roc, LV and so on

Look, it's a bit subjective cause I do realize the dude is "singing" so I understand why some might not place him as a rapper. 

...But everything else about Nate says he is a rapper.  Production is hip-hop, collaborators are hip-hop (it's not like he was doing tracks with Whitney Houston and Brian Mcknight) styles are all hip-hop, demeanor is hip-hop, the fans of his music are rap fans not R&B fans, the same people that are listenin to Dogg Pound are the same people that are loyal to Nate.  I mean everything about the dude is hip-hop, but just because he is singing on a record...

He should be called A RAPPER WHO SINGS!

It's all subjective and up to the journalists and marketing execs to figure out and if I remember correctly they did used to place him in the rap section of stores.

So my West Coast Rap list would have all them dudes on it like...

7.  Nate
34. Kokane
39.  Butch Cassidy

...something like that

kokane actually raps tho, thats why heís on my list.

and if u heard g-funk classics vol 1 & 2, u would see that nate actually did collaborate/had his share of duets with only singers. and yes, he even had a duet with brian mcknight lol.

hip-hop soul/gangsta soul ..... thatís what its defined as when your collaborators/production is rap oriented, but youíre straight singing.

nate has corrected people in the past when they called him a rapper.
Title: Re: TOP 50 WEST COAST (SOCAL) RAPPERS
Post by: Duck Duck Doggy on August 17, 2019, 07:55:35 AM
Itís true. Even to this day if you go into Ameoba or any other record store Nate will be in the Hip Hop section
Title: Re: TOP 50 WEST COAST (SOCAL) RAPPERS
Post by: Sccit on August 17, 2019, 09:19:32 AM
Itís true. Even to this day if you go into Ameoba or any other record store Nate will be in the Hip Hop section

yup .. because of the features and production

heís still not a rapper tho

even funnier, anderson paak actually raps and his music is in the r&b section
Title: Re: TOP 50 WEST COAST (SOCAL) RAPPERS
Post by: SuperSpider on August 17, 2019, 09:25:33 AM
Itís true. Even to this day if you go into Ameoba or any other record store Nate will be in the Hip Hop section

hip-hop ≠ rap tho
Title: Re: TOP 50 WEST COAST (SOCAL) RAPPERS
Post by: doggfather on August 17, 2019, 09:53:04 AM
this is HIS list.
make your own man.
(to everybody)
Title: Re: TOP 50 WEST COAST (SOCAL) RAPPERS
Post by: Game-Won on August 20, 2019, 04:16:13 AM
since itís impossible to get all the legends in 1 list, iím doin mine by region

https://www.instagram.com/p/B07OT6wnFi2/?igshid=1dw48xn138pj3

up next = bay area/norcal

 8)

Dope list would  put Game in 1/2nd depending on my Pac mood. 2 Favorite rappers.
and remove Fatlip, Tone Loc, Domino & Suga Free(not my kind of rappers)

Would add King Lil G, Glasses Malone, Skeme, Schoolboy Q, YG & Jay Rock

But I am hard pressed to add names and remove others and in a top 50 thats crasy. - I do not agree on order tho =)