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Title: The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: Trauma-san on May 08, 2003, 02:05:04 PM
I think it's gotta be when busta says "WHO'S SHOOTIN??? Aw, made you look, now if YOU SHOOTIN, I'll take a look at your man, the bitch shot himself in front of Def Jam"


LOL

Am I hearing that wrong?   That's even funnier than when he makes fun of Ja's voice.  

Second best line is 50 going

"Ja's bitch ass tryna ride like me, tellin people he took a tech nine to junior high like me"

or somethin' like that
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: NewJack on May 08, 2003, 02:11:18 PM
I think Busta hits him the best when he says "I think about the game and whut it's like and WHAT WOULD IT BE WITHOUT YOU." That's kind of a personal thing for me tho, cuz me and my friend have always loved the 50 cent skits "The Best of Ja Rule Duets Volume 2 and 3" which I can never get tired of and will never stop laughing to.
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: KURUPTION-81 on May 08, 2003, 02:47:11 PM
same as above, it is so funny
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: Jome on May 08, 2003, 07:33:14 PM
I think it's gotta be when busta says "WHO'S SHOOTIN??? Aw, made you look, now if YOU SHOOTIN, I'll take a look at your man, the bitch shot himself in front of Def Jam"


LOL

Am I hearing that wrong?   That's even funnier than when he makes fun of Ja's voice.  

Second best line is 50 going

"Ja's bitch ass tryna ride like me, tellin people he took a tech nine to junior high like me"

or somethin' like that

Yeah, that Busta line is great.

But 50 Cent says:
Lil' nigga named Ja think he live like me
Talkin' about he left the hospital and took nine like me

(Talkin about the 9 shots)
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: NewJack on May 08, 2003, 07:36:35 PM
Yeah, but Pac said "Lil nigga name Nas think he live like, talkin bout how he left the hospital and took 5 like me." I don't like that whole verse jus cuz he bit off Pac. Even if it was for the song, to make fun of Ja, you don't just rip a whole verse off him. By the way, if you are confused about where he ripped from, it wasn't from Pac's verse in Hail Mary, it was from his verse in Against All Odds, if you haven't heard it or don't remember it I suggest you go d/l it.
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: Trauma-san on May 08, 2003, 09:27:04 PM
Ohhh, thanks for clearin' up what he said.  And at the end of that verse he says "Against all odds!!"
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: Twentytwofifty on May 09, 2003, 07:13:15 PM
NewJack must be a newbie.

This is so fucking stupid how people say "Em and 50 bit Pac" and bullshit like that.  If that's called biting then this board's hero, Snoop Dogg is the biggest biter in hip-hop as he bit Slick Rick, Biz Markie, Dana Dane, Ice Cube, KRS-One, Marley Marl & Rakim.  Remakes/Covers have been done hundreds of times, it's nothing new.  


It's not the most lyrical line, but the way he's says it, it's funny.

"Black Child, you's a motherfuckin' punk and you'll see me with gloves
Quit scarin' them fuckin' kids with yo ugly ass mug"
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: NewJack on May 09, 2003, 10:14:07 PM
Yo, don't be judgin' me, you don't even know me. God dam, whut the fuck's wit that?

Anyways, whut I'm sayin is 50 never knew Pac, none of his crew knew Pac, and he was from a completely different neighborhood than Pac and doesn't have much in common wit him. Even if Afeni gave him permission (which I'm not sure of, but I'd assume, cuz the CD did make money) I don't think he shuld be rippin a whole verse off him. It's jus Pac's a legend, and even if you gettin' at someone for bitin' off him, you don't just rip a whole verse from him. If it was someone who knew Pac I would be more understanding, but I jus dun think he should've done that. I couldn't give a shyt if people be rippin' his style or concepts of songs, or even the beats with permission, but when you rip someones whole verse and you have no relation whatsoever except your producer who the man hated, c'mon..

I still respect 50 and everything, I think he's a great rapper, but I jus dun like that particular verse for that reason.
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: Trauma-san on May 09, 2003, 10:33:53 PM
^^ The whole beat is obviously a pac song; eminem starts it off by changing the lyrics to the pac song, the hook is the pac song changed around, 50's verse is reminiscent of pac, the original was a diss song, and this one was only released on underground mixtapes, which the artists DONT get paid for, and since the only people buying mixtapes are the hardcore hiphop fans, they all KNOW that they're gankin pac's lyrics and beat, so I don't see nothin' wrong with 50 rippin' all those lines off pac.  

BTW, Pac got famous off of "keep your head up" that interpolated that "oooh chillllld" song, he didn't even sample it, just stole the hook, he never knew that guy.  It's all gravy....


Peace~
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: Twentytwofifty on May 10, 2003, 12:26:29 AM
Nice arguement.

Snoop didn't know Slick Rick, none of his crew knew Slick Rick, wasn't from his 'hood but "bit" his whole song with "Lodi Dodi".

And I could get a hundred more examples.
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: Trauma-san on May 10, 2003, 08:09:30 AM
I DO agree with him that 50's verses aren't as creative, since he was just switchin' around something pac wrote, but I don't think anything's wrong with that... I just think busta came harder since it was new.  Peace~
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: The Watcher on May 10, 2003, 08:17:14 AM
Ja thinks he's Pac, 50 usin all those Pac lines is mocking Ja Rule, how hard is that for people to grasp? Like C2 said, if people are gettin upset with 50 usin those lines, get mad at every other artist for bitin the great ones
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: NewJack on May 10, 2003, 08:34:25 AM
I aint gettin upset, and I said I know he doin it to mock Ja, but mocking is one thing, rippin some1s whole verse is another. I aint upset, I jus dun like the verse too much for that reason. I still like 50, one of my favs, but jus not too fond of that particular verse for that reason.
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: PLANT on May 10, 2003, 11:08:46 AM
something about 106 and park fans dont even respect you........that line does it for me....Busta just rips his verse and rips ja rule real good on that one.
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: Trauma-san on May 10, 2003, 12:09:13 PM
Yeah, most of bustas stuff is funny.  When he calls him Beatrice is funny too, lol.  
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: Trauma-san on May 10, 2003, 12:09:51 PM
Oh, and it's real simple, but for some reason I always laugh when eminem goes


"Now he's sscreamin', actin like he's pac... but he's not...."


LOL

Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: Darksider on May 10, 2003, 06:18:44 PM
I didn`t like this Diss song....
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: js83 on May 10, 2003, 11:27:32 PM


This is so fucking stupid how people say "Em and 50 bit Pac" and bullshit like that.  If that's called biting then this board's hero, Snoop Dogg is the biggest biter in hip-hop as he bit Slick Rick, Biz Markie, Dana Dane, Ice Cube, KRS-One, Marley Marl & Rakim.  Remakes/Covers have been done hundreds of times, it's nothing new.  


no its not stupid...they are basically ridin on pac's dick 24/7...look at all the bitin they've done so far? espically  on this song...fucking 50 cent copies the whole pac verse...and if u don't call that bitin...then i dunno what is.
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: Twentytwofifty on May 10, 2003, 11:59:33 PM
no its not stupid...they are basically ridin on pac's dick 24/7...look at all the bitin they've done so far? espically  on this song...fucking 50 cent copies the whole pac verse...and if u don't call that bitin...then i dunno what is.

Are you fucking stupid?

Explain how they are "ridin on pac's dick 24/7".

And explain how my explaination of how if you call that "bitting" you gotta call every remake/cover "bitting" is stupid.

There are like a hundred remakes/covers.   I guess Mos Def is biting Slick Rick, Buckshot biting Rakim, Snoop biting Ice Cube...
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: js83 on May 11, 2003, 12:26:43 AM
no its not stupid...they are basically ridin on pac's dick 24/7...look at all the bitin they've done so far? espically  on this song...fucking 50 cent copies the whole pac verse...and if u don't call that bitin...then i dunno what is.

Are you fucking stupid?

Explain how they are "ridin on pac's dick 24/7".

And explain how my explaination of how if you call that "bitting" you gotta call every remake/cover "bitting" is stupid.

There are like a hundred remakes/covers.   I guess Mos Def is biting Slick Rick, Buckshot biting Rakim, Snoop biting Ice Cube...

Am i fucking stupid? nah not at all.

Do you even know what "biting" means? look at eminem espically..the dude always talks bout pac...mentions his ass...copies his lyrics..jacks his beats...i mean what else of more proof do you need? if u still don't think that they ain't bitin, then your the fucking stupid one, not me.

oh and btw, you must be one of dem eminem & 50 cent dickriders.
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: KVB on May 11, 2003, 02:29:34 AM
"Black Child, you's a motherfuckin' punk and you'll see me with gloves
Quit scarin' them fuckin' kids with yo ugly ass mug"


Yeah that one's funny... not considering Busta Rhymes' verse, that's about the only sign of creativity from Em/50 Cent on this track. I don't like the song at all...
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: D.R.E.-Dogg on May 11, 2003, 03:10:40 AM

Am i fucking stupid? nah not at all.

Do you even know what "biting" means? look at eminem espically..the dude always talks bout pac...mentions his ass...copies his lyrics..jacks his beats...i mean what else of more proof do you need? if u still don't think that they ain't bitin, then your the fucking stupid one, not me.

oh and btw, you must be one of dem eminem & 50 cent dickriders.

u must be one of them Pac worshippin dickryders that get mad whenever a rapper even mentions the name of ur untouchable god

we are talking about one single ass track.. how is he jackin Pac's beats all the time? how the fuck is he copying his lyrics all the time? get it it's a PARODY if u know what this is

Quitter was nuthin serious he just took a classic diss track

ANY rapper mentions Pac cuz he's a legend
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: Twentytwofifty on May 11, 2003, 08:25:19 AM
Do you even know what "biting" means?

I guess I don't know your definition.

look at eminem espically..the dude always talks bout pac...mentions his ass...copies his lyrics..jacks his beats...i mean what else of more proof do you need?

"talks bout pac" = biting ?? ??

What proof have you provided?  You mentioned he copies his lyrics but don't provided them, you state he "jacks his beats" but don't say which ones.

We've got "Hail Mary 2003" which is a song on a mixtape and half of "Quitter" which is an unreleased song.  Please tell me you are backing up your statement with more evidence of jaking his beats and copying his lyrics than these two songs.

if u still don't think that they ain't bitin, then your the fucking stupid one, not me.

oh and btw, you must be one of dem eminem & 50 cent dickriders.

 ::)

And explain how my explaination of how if you call that "bitting" you gotta call every remake/cover "bitting" is stupid.
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: Trauma-san on May 11, 2003, 11:06:46 AM
^^ Don't worry C, he's just ignorant.  You're right, he probabably has a pac poster on his wall... (but wouldn't that be bitin' his image?).  
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: Jome on May 11, 2003, 05:53:35 PM
^^ Don't worry C, he's just ignorant.  You're right, he probabably has a pac poster on his wall... (but wouldn't that be bitin' his image?).  

OMG OMG yall !!
You mentioned Pacs name !!
You're basically riding his nuts 24/7, you're unbelievable you !!

I just can't believe this  ???
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: platinumk777 on May 11, 2003, 06:56:25 PM
ahem, back to the topic

My fav line was, oddly enough, at the end where Busta says, "it was fun"
It's as if dissing Ja Rule shouldn't even be taken seriously, cause the fucking guy's a joke himself
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: Trauma-san on May 11, 2003, 07:51:03 PM
Yeah, busta manhandled him.  Everything he said was about 10 levels above ja rule, Busta came off sounding like an adult talking to a little kid or something...
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: js83 on May 12, 2003, 12:13:47 AM

Am i fucking stupid? nah not at all.

Do you even know what "biting" means? look at eminem espically..the dude always talks bout pac...mentions his ass...copies his lyrics..jacks his beats...i mean what else of more proof do you need? if u still don't think that they ain't bitin, then your the fucking stupid one, not me.

oh and btw, you must be one of dem eminem & 50 cent dickriders.

u must be one of them Pac worshippin dickryders that get mad whenever a rapper even mentions the name of ur untouchable god

we are talking about one single ass track.. how is he jackin Pac's beats all the time? how the fuck is he copying his lyrics all the time? get it it's a PARODY if u know what this is

Quitter was nuthin serious he just took a classic diss track

ANY rapper mentions Pac cuz he's a legend

uhhh i ain't no pac worshippin dickrider...i'm just a fan of his music...u don't gotta be a fucking dickrider to figure out that em and 50 is bitin on his shit. and i ain't just referring to this song...and no i don't have a fucking poster of pac...damn some of ya are fucking retards.
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: Kain670 on May 12, 2003, 01:43:28 PM
LaZ1e you just mad because 50 gave Hail Mary a face lift ;D


50 would be biting if this was a track on his CD or something...but its not

this is just a bullshit diss to Ja Fool
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: Twentytwofifty on May 12, 2003, 01:50:48 PM
...u don't gotta be a fucking dickrider to figure out that em and 50 is bitin on his shit. and i ain't just referring to this song...

How come you keep saying this but never give any examples/proof?
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: js83 on May 12, 2003, 10:28:01 PM
...u don't gotta be a fucking dickrider to figure out that em and 50 is bitin on his shit. and i ain't just referring to this song...

How come you keep saying this but never give any examples/proof?

do i really have to waste my time typing all the songs, interviews, and rest of that shit? nah.
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: Jome on May 12, 2003, 10:35:42 PM

do i really have to waste my time typing all the songs, interviews, and rest of that shit? nah.

LOL
Translation: "I have no case, I'm just hating on 50"
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: js83 on May 12, 2003, 11:03:25 PM

do i really have to waste my time typing all the songs, interviews, and rest of that shit? nah.

LOL
Translation: "I have no case, I'm just hating on 50"

umm...i never said i hate 50 or em...in fact they are some of my fav artists...but THEY did bite pacs shit on this song...espically 50 bitin his whole verse...and ya are still saying that he didn't bite pac...  ::)   ok...sure.
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: soufside on May 14, 2003, 12:46:27 AM
em u claim yo muthaz uh crackhed an kim is a known slut so whut haily gon be wen she grow up

hail mary wuz ok fo a redoin a song but it waznt a good dis it wuznt originol


souf
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: D.R.E.-Dogg on May 14, 2003, 06:41:09 AM

do i really have to waste my time typing all the songs, interviews, and rest of that shit? nah.

this is just great..


umm...i never said i hate 50 or em...in fact they are some of my fav artists...but THEY did bite pacs shit on this song...espically 50 bitin his whole verse...and ya are still saying that he didn't bite pac...  ::)   ok...sure.

don't let us go through that same shit again

he DID use Pac lyrics no doubt right there

^^it was to parody Ja's Pac bitin ass period. let's not talk about this one single track no more


now take the time and just name a very few tracks, either Em or 50 is bitin Pac on so u can prove ur point..
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: soufside on May 14, 2003, 08:16:53 AM

he DID use Pac lyrics no doubt right there

^^it was to parody Ja's Pac bitin ass period. let's not talk about this one single track no more


now take the time and just name a very few tracks, either Em or 50 is bitin Pac on so u can prove ur point..
ya kno i tink they preten they wuz clownn ja but 4reel i tink is cuz em an 50 wan 2 b pac em alwayz bring up pac name an he made quitter so i tink em is jus like ja is dat ja do it more obviouz an 50 use the same formula pac used to sell reccids queshun 4 u if ja made hail mary like em an 50 wut wud u say?
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: D.R.E.-Dogg on May 14, 2003, 11:55:05 AM

he DID use Pac lyrics no doubt right there

^^it was to parody Ja's Pac bitin ass period. let's not talk about this one single track no more


now take the time and just name a very few tracks, either Em or 50 is bitin Pac on so u can prove ur point..
ya kno i tink they preten they wuz clownn ja but 4reel i tink is cuz em an 50 wan 2 b pac em alwayz bring up pac name an he made quitter so i tink em is jus like ja is dat ja do it more obviouz an 50 use the same formula pac used to sell reccids queshun 4 u if ja made hail mary like em an 50 wut wud u say?

anza 4 u G, I'd call him a biter who's on Pac's nutz once again cuzzzzzzz.. there's no reason for him to remake Hail Mary.. he ain't clowning shit since Em and 50 ain't even Pac biters..

any rapper's bringin up Pac's name this doesn't mean shit

as for Quitter.. this not even serious, they just chosed this one cuz it's a classic diss track and made a 'funny' "remake" cuz D12 could 'replace' the Outlawz.. they couldn've done that with Fuck Wit Dre Day, Real Muthafuckin G's or whatever plus the beat makes it possible to make a fun-diss

Em's not looking for Pac's image and neither is 50.. look at Em's behaviour in his videos.. he's totally different and 50 said it several times that his attitude's nothin like Pac's and that any comparison is silly anway
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: soufside on May 14, 2003, 12:05:40 PM

anza 4 u G, I'd call him a biter who's on Pac's nutz once again cuzzzzzzz.. there's no reason for him to remake Hail Mary.. he ain't clowning shit since Em and 50 ain't even Pac biters..

any rapper's bringin up Pac's name this doesn't mean shit

as for Quitter.. this not even serious, they just chosed this one cuz it's a classic diss track and made a 'funny' "remake" cuz D12 could 'replace' the Outlawz.. they couldn've done that with Fuck Wit Dre Day, Real Muthafuckin G's or whatever plus the beat makes it possible to make a fun-diss

Em's not looking for Pac's image and neither is 50.. look at Em's behaviour in his videos.. he's totally different and 50 said it several times that his attitude's nothin like Pac's and that any comparison is silly anway
dog y u got to tri 2 make fun uh meh? wuteva doh i dun like nun uh dem but i know if ja remade hail mary 2 diss em ery1 wud hate
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: D.R.E.-Dogg on May 14, 2003, 12:18:19 PM

anza 4 u G, I'd call him a biter who's on Pac's nutz once again cuzzzzzzz.. there's no reason for him to remake Hail Mary.. he ain't clowning shit since Em and 50 ain't even Pac biters..

any rapper's bringin up Pac's name this doesn't mean shit

as for Quitter.. this not even serious, they just chosed this one cuz it's a classic diss track and made a 'funny' "remake" cuz D12 could 'replace' the Outlawz.. they couldn've done that with Fuck Wit Dre Day, Real Muthafuckin G's or whatever plus the beat makes it possible to make a fun-diss

Em's not looking for Pac's image and neither is 50.. look at Em's behaviour in his videos.. he's totally different and 50 said it several times that his attitude's nothin like Pac's and that any comparison is silly anway
dog y u got to tri 2 make fun uh meh? wuteva doh i dun like nun uh dem but i know if ja remade hail mary 2 diss em ery1 wud hate

that's right and they'd do it for the obvies reason i just mentioned
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: Twentytwofifty on May 14, 2003, 12:27:05 PM
soufside, quit writing like that, it's not "cool", it's not "gangsta", it's just stupid and difficult to read.

I'm not saying you have to have proper spelling all the time or proper sentence structure but you can write better than that bullshit.
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: smartass on May 14, 2003, 01:01:17 PM
i can't believe people are still talking about one of the worst beefs in hiphop history. sad.
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: soufside on May 14, 2003, 01:35:06 PM
soufside, quit writing like that, it's not "cool", it's not "gangsta", it's just stupid and difficult to read.

I'm not saying you have to have proper spelling all the time or proper sentence structure but you can write better than that bullshit.
dog duh way i write is duh way i talk dis aint no fake i caint help it dog is juz duh way i talk i aint tryn to b a g or cool is my natural way i talk
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: Jome on May 14, 2003, 06:51:14 PM

dog duh way i write is duh way i talk dis aint no fake i caint help it dog is juz duh way i talk i aint tryn to b a g or cool is my natural way i talk


You're from the States, but can't write proper English ???
Or is it "Soufffsyde" of another country ?
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: soufside on May 15, 2003, 10:00:01 AM


You're from the States, but can't write proper English ???
Or is it "Soufffsyde" of another country ?
im frum duh states soufside of l.a. is duh way i talk is proper to me but dun werry bout me so much an is soufside not soufffsyde so stop tryn 2 make fun uh me is dat duh only way u guys have discussions herre? by makin fun uh peeple who give good replys?
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: D.R.E.-Dogg on May 15, 2003, 11:14:14 AM


You're from the States, but can't write proper English ???
Or is it "Soufffsyde" of another country ?
im frum duh states soufside of l.a. is duh way i talk is proper to me but dun werry bout me so much an is soufside not soufffsyde so stop tryn 2 make fun uh me is dat duh only way u guys have discussions herre? by makin fun uh peeple who give good replys?

i missed that reply gemme a link
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: da_notorious_mack on May 15, 2003, 12:02:35 PM
so jus outta interest....what would yall say if ja an the murderers remade hit em up?
he a biter....sucks...etc

so lets see what songs/beats ja rule has jacked off pac

pledge remix{so many tears}
pain

ems bit two as well....but thats okay

nas has been on thug mansion even tho pac didnt like him....and he was on the pledge remix too....so he jacked jus as many beats

and every one was trippin when jay used me an my girlfriend.......but it alright for nas to use pacs beats/jump on a track wit him


.....yall set double standards for these guys....

as for the song in hand....busta an em kill it.......50 sounds tight but he aint spittin it as tight as pac did so it dont sound as good....

now dont start attackin me for the shit above....cus this is my opinion...yall are entitled to your opinion....im entitled to mine
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: soufside on May 15, 2003, 12:46:08 PM
so jus outta interest....what would yall say if ja an the murderers remade hit em up?
he a biter....sucks...etc

so lets see what songs/beats ja rule has jacked off pac

pledge remix{so many tears}
pain

ems bit two as well....but thats okay

nas has been on thug mansion even tho pac didnt like him....and he was on the pledge remix too....so he jacked jus as many beats

and every one was trippin when jay used me an my girlfriend.......but it alright for nas to use pacs beats/jump on a track wit him


.....yall set double standards for these guys....

as for the song in hand....busta an em kill it.......50 sounds tight but he aint spittin it as tight as pac did so it dont sound as good....

now dont start attackin me for the shit above....cus this is my opinion...yall are entitled to your opinion....im entitled to mine

cept 4 em killin it thas wut i been sayn is coo if some doods do songz dat dey like but if dey dun like sumbody like ja is not ok 4 dem to make duh songz
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: S.G.V. on May 15, 2003, 01:01:53 PM
 em uses some of pacs lyrics...and his whole cadence...50 mirrors all of pacs verse...they use his beat...but its ok...cuz its em and 50....and em and d-12 remake hit em up...but theyre not biting...its ok...its em...ja rule uses a tupac beat...oh hes biting...u fuckas are some ignorant ass double standard havin muthafuckas....there aint no damn difference if its on an album or a mixtape...theyre "biting" the same person for the same purpose...to get attention...why dont ALL of u foos get the dicks out ya ass and mouths and understand...quit the double standards...just cuz its ya favorite white boy dont mean tis ok...
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: Twentytwofifty on May 15, 2003, 01:33:06 PM
em uses some of pacs lyrics...and his whole cadence...50 mirrors all of pacs verse...they use his beat...but its ok...cuz its em and 50....and em and d-12 remake hit em up...but theyre not biting...its ok...its em...ja rule uses a tupac beat...oh hes biting...u fuckas are some ignorant ass double standard havin muthafuckas....there aint no damn difference if its on an album or a mixtape...theyre "biting" the same person for the same purpose...to get attention...why dont ALL of u foos get the dicks out ya ass and mouths and understand...quit the double standards...just cuz its ya favorite white boy dont mean tis ok...

I think people are using double standards calling 50 and Em biters but no one has said anything about Ja Rule doing the exact same thing with Biggie's "Who Shot Ya?".   (Eventhough I bet most didn't even know that was a Biggie song).  If remakes/covers are biting than 90% of the rappers today are biters from Jay-Z to Mos Def to Snoop Dogg to Mobb Deep.
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: S.G.V. on May 15, 2003, 02:11:46 PM
were talkin about people callin ja a biter for usin pac beats etc and not callin 50 and em biters for usin pac beats lyrics and concepts....aint a damn thing wrong with sampling or remaking a song...but...these people here want to bash anythin ja does just cuz 50 and em hate him...thats the damn truth...if ja had made that hail mary track dissin 50 and em...with the same lyrics just aimed at the others...i bet this thread would be non exsistant...am i right?...
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: Jome on May 15, 2003, 07:16:40 PM
were talkin about people callin ja a biter for usin pac beats etc and not callin 50 and em biters for usin pac beats lyrics and concepts....aint a damn thing wrong with sampling or remaking a song...but...these people here want to bash anythin ja does just cuz 50 and em hate him...thats the damn truth...if ja had made that hail mary track dissin 50 and em...with the same lyrics just aimed at the others...i bet this thread would be non exsistant...am i right?...

Did 50 Cent or Eminem ever release a 2Pac remake comercially to make money off it ??
Ask yourself the same question about Ja..

Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: D.R.E.-Dogg on May 16, 2003, 07:15:51 AM
em uses some of pacs lyrics...and his whole cadence...50 mirrors all of pacs verse...they use his beat...but its ok...cuz its em and 50....and em and d-12 remake hit em up...but theyre not biting...its ok...its em...ja rule uses a tupac beat...oh hes biting...u fuckas are some ignorant ass double standard havin muthafuckas....there aint no damn difference if its on an album or a mixtape...theyre "biting" the same person for the same purpose...to get attention...why dont ALL of u foos get the dicks out ya ass and mouths and understand...quit the double standards...just cuz its ya favorite white boy dont mean tis ok...


no they not.. neither Em nor 50 have to do anything to get attention..
Hail Mary 2003 = parody.. plus they didn't get any money of it.. plus they don't need to be on Pac's dick to get attention they are obviesly the 2 biggest hiphop artists right now..

as for the rest i said this before..

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as for Quitter.. this not even serious, they just chosed this one cuz it's a classic diss track and made a 'funny' "remake" cuz D12 could 'replace' the Outlawz.. they couldn've done that with Fuck Wit Dre Day, Real Muthafuckin G's or whatever plus the beat makes it possible to make a fun-diss

Em's not looking for Pac's image and neither is 50.. look at Em's behaviour in his videos.. he's totally different and 50 said it several times that his attitude's nothin like Pac's and that any comparison is silly anway


Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: soufside on May 17, 2003, 04:58:33 PM
den wut uz sayin iz dat if u make $$ off a samplin den uz bitin? den dre iz bitin quik iz bitin jayz iz bitin ery rapper iz bitin ery rapper sample dats dumb a sample iz a sample no matter who duz it
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: DaSchizophrenic1 on May 17, 2003, 06:08:31 PM
den wut uz sayin iz dat if u make $$ off a samplin den uz bitin? den dre iz bitin quik iz bitin jayz iz bitin ery rapper iz bitin ery rapper sample dats dumb a sample iz a sample no matter who duz it
Then what you're saying is that if you make money off of a sample, you're biting? In that case Dre is biting, Quik is biting, Jay-Z is biting, and every other rapper is biting because ever rapper samples. That's dumb because a sample is a sample, no matter who does it.

JUST REWRITING IT IN PROPER ENGLISH BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE ON THE BOARD MIGHT NOT HAVE UNDERSTOOD.
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: Jome on May 17, 2003, 10:12:05 PM

JUST REWRITING IT IN PROPER ENGLISH BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE ON THE BOARD MIGHT NOT HAVE UNDERSTOOD.


Thanks, keep up the good work..  8)

And Souffside, I'm not saying sampling is biting, I'm saying to "rework" a track is biting, if you don't come original..
Like A1 or N*Sync redoes old tracks with no twist on it what so ever, it's clearly biting..

It's also not biting if you're intentionally "biting" to piss somebody off, IMO..
You don't need to be smart to understand that Ja Rule probably was furious after he heard how Em/50/Bus remade one of his idols biggest hits..
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: soufside on May 19, 2003, 09:44:47 AM

JUST REWRITING IT IN PROPER ENGLISH BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE ON THE BOARD MIGHT NOT HAVE UNDERSTOOD.


Thanks, keep up the good work..  8)

And Souffside, I'm not saying sampling is biting, I'm saying to "rework" a track is biting, if you don't come original..
Like A1 or N*Sync redoes old tracks with no twist on it what so ever, it's clearly biting..

It's also not biting if you're intentionally "biting" to piss somebody off, IMO..
You don't need to be smart to understand that Ja Rule probably was furious after he heard how Em/50/Bus remade one of his idols biggest hits..
dats a duble standard den dog
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: Jome on May 19, 2003, 07:03:25 PM

dats a duble standard den dog


Nope.
There's nothing wrong with adding your twist on a remake, and maybe even take it to new heights and the next level, but if you virtually COPY the track, then it's biting.

With some remakes you can't even tell it sampled something..
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: soufside on May 20, 2003, 02:21:26 PM

dats a duble standard den dog


Nope.
There's nothing wrong with adding your twist on a remake, and maybe even take it to new heights and the next level, but if you virtually COPY the track, then it's biting.

With some remakes you can't even tell it sampled something..
dey berrly changed a ting dog iz u def? or do u hate ja an love eminem so much? like dood sed a few more posts up u got sum duble standardz dog
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: Jome on May 20, 2003, 04:56:55 PM

dats a duble standard den dog


Nope.
There's nothing wrong with adding your twist on a remake, and maybe even take it to new heights and the next level, but if you virtually COPY the track, then it's biting.

With some remakes you can't even tell it sampled something..
dey berrly changed a ting dog iz u def? or do u hate ja an love eminem so much? like dood sed a few more posts up u got sum duble standardz dog

The "dood a few posts up" is yourself.
And it's pretty obvious they did it to piss Ja Rule off.. you didn't get the Ja Rule/Westside/Killuminati part ??
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: Twentytwofifty on May 20, 2003, 05:11:30 PM
I don't think some people realize how Eminem is spittin' most of his verse.

See 50 comin' for me I'ma guard my, my position
No one'll pay attention to me, please Gotti
Here I go, give me this pill
Ecstasy done got me feelin' so invincible
Now all a sudden I'm a fuckin' mad man who screams like I'm Pac
But I'm not, enemies, Hennessy
Actin' like I'm great, but I'm fake, I'm crazy
Sweat drip get me off this trip, someone stop this train
Some say my brain is all corrupted fuckin' with this shit
I'm suck, I'm addicted to these drugs, I'ma quit
sayin' motherfuckas names before somebody fucks me up



Get it?
Title: Re:The Best line in "Hail Mary 2003"
Post by: soufside on May 21, 2003, 12:24:10 AM

dats a duble standard den dog


Nope.
There's nothing wrong with adding your twist on a remake, and maybe even take it to new heights and the next level, but if you virtually COPY the track, then it's biting.

With some remakes you can't even tell it sampled something..
dey berrly changed a ting dog iz u def? or do u hate ja an love eminem so much? like dood sed a few more posts up u got sum duble standardz dog

The "dood a few posts up" is yourself.
And it's pretty obvious they did it to piss Ja Rule off.. you didn't get the Ja Rule/Westside/Killuminati part ??

no funny man i wuz talkin bout duh dood sgv but it dun matter u not goin 2 admit u wuz wrong