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Title: who believes in god
Post by: white Boy on May 26, 2003, 01:40:49 PM
does anyone not belive in god, or doesnt belive in religion? i believee in science, and i think all religions are bs,
Title: Re:who believes in god
Post by: DaSchizophrenic1 on May 26, 2003, 01:48:53 PM
I believe in God. However, I do agree with science. Religion explains some things that science can't, and science explains things that religion doesn't.
Title: Re:who believes in god
Post by: TheSheriff on May 26, 2003, 02:08:45 PM
I believe in God.
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Post by: 7even on May 26, 2003, 02:56:26 PM
depends on how God is defined
Title: Re:who believes in god
Post by: Suga Foot on May 26, 2003, 03:25:15 PM
I believe in myself.
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Post by: Agua on May 26, 2003, 04:28:18 PM
i do
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Post by: mauzip on May 26, 2003, 05:08:55 PM
me = atheist ;D
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Post by: KING VerbalAssaulta on May 26, 2003, 07:40:00 PM
science..."organized religion is for the weak minded" 8)
Title: Re:who believes in god
Post by: mauzip on May 26, 2003, 11:34:16 PM
science..."organized religion is for the weak minded" 8)

that quote is so true...
Title: Re:who believes in god
Post by: The Big Bad Ass on May 27, 2003, 12:20:09 AM
^^ Explain how believing in God makes a person weak minded?
Title: Re:who believes in god
Post by: .:DayGoStyLz:. on May 27, 2003, 01:05:50 AM
I believe in myself.
Title: Re:who believes in god
Post by: white Boy on May 27, 2003, 05:19:35 AM
its not weak minded, but... science has proof, religion doesnt, your belive just becasue some guy, who rapes lil boys on the weekend, tells you so, i belive there was a god who created the first form of life, but from then on, evolution,
Title: Re:who believes in god
Post by: The Big Bad Ass on May 27, 2003, 06:32:44 AM
I don't believe in god cause some rapist told me. You contridicted yourself in your own paragraph. Do you belive someone created the world cause a rapist told you? No. You made that theory on your own feelings and opinions. Same for me. Same for any other intellegent person. And for the people who don't believe in god, to each thier own. I won't diss you and call you weak minded cause of your decisions and beliefs. I just wouldn't want to take that risk that there is a heaven and a hell, cause if there is, then not believing is gonna get you an eternity of regret and torture.

Oh, and btw 50, I'm not dissin.. judging by what you said I agree on most things. I believe there is a god that started it all, and that science has gone from there. Just pissed that I've been called weak minded, and accused of being led by rapists. Tends to frustrate me.
Title: Re:who believes in god
Post by: Z the laidback Virus on May 27, 2003, 07:32:18 AM
I'm an atheist,and I believe religion was the invention of leaders wanting to tell their people how to live and to obey higher powers and also to explain all kinds of things. If people were convinced of the reality of the things told in this religion they wouldn't ask themselves if it was right a selfish elite ruled them and decided everything for them.They were told this was ment to be this way,wich was why they wouldn't ask difficult and confronting questions,wich was a good way to keep them in check. Fact is the people asking questions are the ones that provide the greatest risks to the ruling party.
Title: Re:who believes in god
Post by: Hittman2001 on May 27, 2003, 10:26:58 AM
i believe in god, but i dont believe in religion.
Title: Re:who believes in god
Post by: .:DayGoStyLz:. on May 27, 2003, 11:12:21 AM
its not weak minded, but... science has proof, religion doesnt,

homie, ive been goin at it wit people on here since day 1 wit this shit...the difference between facts and beliefs...is very blurry to religious fanatics. lol
Title: Re:who believes in god
Post by: TheSheriff on May 27, 2003, 12:58:07 PM
I love how Darwin wrote an epilogue to the Descent of Man saying "I do not believe this theory to be sound", but our Darwinists deny its existence because it's been excised from their copies.
Title: Re:who believes in god
Post by: DOC. da G.P.T...[METS][REX/MaB] on May 27, 2003, 04:29:24 PM
i blieve in scince but yet i believe in Islam n alah...
Title: Re:who believes in god
Post by: .:DayGoStyLz:. on May 27, 2003, 06:12:49 PM
i blieve in scince but yet i believe in Islam n alah...


Docky homie, apparently u dont believe in Spell Check.... ;D

oh...and if u believe in both science and Islam...does that mean u believe in Islamic scientists? lol jus wonderin...
Title: Re:who believes in god
Post by: pappy on May 27, 2003, 06:24:15 PM
i believe in god but dont believe in organized religion
Title: Re:who believes in god
Post by: Quakaveli on May 27, 2003, 08:43:10 PM
I believe in God.
Title: Re:who believes in god
Post by: DOC. da G.P.T...[METS][REX/MaB] on May 27, 2003, 10:38:45 PM
i blieve in scince but yet i believe in Islam n alah...

Docky homie, apparently u dont believe in Spell Check.... ;D

oh...and if u believe in both science and Islam...does that mean u believe in Islamic scientists? lol jus wonderin...


yah i do believe in spell check but....i also worship lazy-ism.....so you know.... ;D

Title: Re:who believes in god
Post by: Quakaveli on May 28, 2003, 12:27:51 AM
i also worship lazy-ism.....


naah, uz jus a pothead....u kno  ;D
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Post by: Lost Titan on May 28, 2003, 06:32:19 AM
i dont believe in god but i belive in a higher power
Title: Re:who believes in god
Post by: Z the laidback Virus on May 28, 2003, 09:09:35 AM
i dont believe in god but i belive in a higher power

Then what do you believe this power to be and how would you call it?
Title: Re:who believes in god
Post by: Bigg AG on May 28, 2003, 03:50:24 PM
right now u can say im Athiest not because im a gay punk roccer or sumthin but i jus dont know wut to believe. im still studying Islam but if i die right now i would die a Christian. but i believe in God but idk but to me its Jesus vs. Mohammed. lol. im out!!!
Title: Re:who believes in god
Post by: The Big Bad Ass on May 28, 2003, 04:59:34 PM
right now u can say im Athiest not because im a gay punk roccer or sumthin but i jus dont know wut to believe. im still studying Islam but if i die right now i would die a Christian. but i believe in God but idk but to me its Jesus vs. Mohammed. lol. im out!!!

Atheist - One who disbelieves or denies the existence of God or gods

That is the dictionary meaning of atheist. You believe in God. So you are not an ateist lol
Title: Re:who believes in god
Post by: Bigg AG on May 28, 2003, 05:11:48 PM
right now u can say im Athiest not because im a gay punk roccer or sumthin but i jus dont know wut to believe. im still studying Islam but if i die right now i would die a Christian. but i believe in God but idk but to me its Jesus vs. Mohammed. lol. im out!!!

Atheist - One who disbelieves or denies the existence of God or gods

That is the dictionary meaning of atheist. You believe in God. So you are not an ateist lol

0o0o ok my badd i thought its when u dont have a religion. lol but thanks for not being an asshole about it. im out!!!
Title: Re:who believes in god
Post by: Quakaveli on May 28, 2003, 07:11:18 PM
right now u can say im Athiest not because im a gay punk roccer or sumthin but i jus dont know wut to believe. im still studying Islam but if i die right now i would die a Christian. but i believe in God but idk but to me its Jesus vs. Mohammed. lol. im out!!!

Atheist - One who disbelieves or denies the existence of God or gods

That is the dictionary meaning of atheist. You believe in God. So you are not an ateist lol

0o0o ok my badd i thought its when u dont have a religion. lol but thanks for not being an asshole about it. im out!!!

yeah fool dats wat I told u on aim too...if u believe in god but aint sure about da religion u are an AGNOSTIC..
Title: Re:who believes in god
Post by: bLaDe on May 30, 2003, 12:58:07 AM
Yes, I believe in God, and I follow Sikhism.  I also beleive in the theory of evolution, and look at it as a great way God used to start off life on Earth.

P.S - Nice avatar+sig Quake, props, peace

  -{bLaDe}
Title: Re:who believes in god
Post by: Hater Player on May 30, 2003, 04:20:46 PM
yea i beleive in god best belive it jesu christo dogg thas the man and mother mary be da baddest mami i gotz love for all my caTolicos

ps what kinda fuckin person dont belive in god u sum kinda fukin alien or animal or sumthin dogg
Title: Re:who believes in god
Post by: Skindiana bon3z on May 30, 2003, 06:01:47 PM
I believe In God
Title: Re:who believes in god
Post by: LiqwidNitrogen on May 30, 2003, 06:26:04 PM
I worship one god, and one god only.
Title: Re:who believes in god
Post by: ·SiNiStEr· on May 31, 2003, 07:44:21 PM
Yes, I believe in God, and I follow Sikhism.  I also beleive in the theory of evolution, and look at it as a great way God used to start off life on Earth.

P.S - Nice avatar+sig Quake, props, peace

  -{bLaDe}

yo blade. i hear alot about you bein sikh and what-not, but im lazy and i was just wonderin if you could hook me up wit a site or somethin outlining sikhism.

i dont believe in god.. yada yada.
i find it very very ironic in the fact that so many people, including darwin himself, die as christians. you have to ask yourself, as atheists, we believe in no afterlife, if you were on your death bed, wouldnt it make sense to make penance with god? you  have nothing to lose, if ya get screwed in purgatory.. you at least died as a christian, dying as an atheist means no afterlife, no heaven, just a corpse, if ya died as a christian it provides hope.. people who make video games these days got it all figured out (sounds weird but its true, Final Fantasy 10 [X] deals alot with religion and whoever plays it betta not skip the surface, sounds childish but whatever). i will not do that and i will face death with whatever comes with it. but ill tell you this. I AINT MUTHA FUCKIN DYIN, until i feel its necessary.
Title: Re:who believes in god
Post by: TheSheriff on May 31, 2003, 07:47:47 PM
So, really, what you're saying, is that Darwin believed in God enough to fear his wrath?

And remember, evolution and a god are not mutually exclusive.
Title: Re:who believes in god
Post by: ·SiNiStEr· on May 31, 2003, 07:52:59 PM
Yeah.. darwin,  during the end of his life.. grew to fear a God, and decidely became a christian partially, i believe, to exterior influences.. and maybe the truth about atheism hit him and he realized that.. after death there is nothing. i believe that the only reason he died a christian was to take an extra stab at life.

you are also right that god and evolution aren't mutually exclusive.. but i think due to the lack of divine intervention, and a total lack of proof that god exists, that evolution exists without god. when i look into the sky, i dont see god, period. (figure of speech)

[X] .. hey i figured out a character.. haha.
Title: Re:who believes in god
Post by: TheSheriff on May 31, 2003, 07:55:35 PM
I see God in the face of that friend I was talking about on G Spot; I see God in the eyes of my baby niece. I see God in the heroism of men like Gandhi, Massoud, Gordon, etc.

I see God everywhere. And, well, Darwin was always a Christian (note his epilogue to Descent of Man), he was just never a rabid one until the end. He was a philosopher, willing to contemplate his religion was wrong.
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Post by: LiqwidNitrogen on May 31, 2003, 08:01:00 PM
Very true. I feel like God is just a presence among us and different people see God in other people, or anything for that matter.
Title: Re:who believes in god
Post by: ·SiNiStEr· on May 31, 2003, 08:03:04 PM
I see God in the face of that friend I was talking about on G Spot; I see God in the eyes of my baby niece. I see God in the heroism of men like Gandhi, Massoud, Gordon, etc.

I see God everywhere. And, well, Darwin was always a Christian (note his epilogue to Descent of Man), he was just never a rabid one until the end. He was a philosopher, willing to contemplate his religion was wrong.

and thats what makes us different.


ahhh.. the beauty of DNA
Title: Re:who believes in god
Post by: TheSheriff on May 31, 2003, 08:08:02 PM
Ah, the beauty God's eternal ineffability.
Title: Re:who believes in god
Post by: Bramsterdam (see ya) on June 01, 2003, 09:27:31 AM
I believe in myself.

me too :) As for god... well sorta.. not really though.. I mean its been so many years that he's been nailed to a cross and reborn, I mean, wtf, how many lives does this dude have ? lol
Title: Re:who believes in god
Post by: TheSheriff on June 01, 2003, 09:36:21 AM
Do you try to be so retarded?
Title: Re:who believes in god
Post by: bLaDe on June 01, 2003, 01:59:26 PM
You know, a major part of believing in God is believing in your self and that noting is beyond one's grasp, lol

  -{bLaDe}
Title: Re:who believes in god
Post by: bLaDe on June 01, 2003, 02:07:24 PM
Yes, I believe in God, and I follow Sikhism.  I also beleive in the theory of evolution, and look at it as a great way God used to start off life on Earth.

P.S - Nice avatar+sig Quake, props, peace

  -{bLaDe}

yo blade. i hear alot about you bein sikh and what-not, but im lazy and i was just wonderin if you could hook me up wit a site or somethin outlining sikhism.

i dont believe in god.. yada yada.
i find it very very ironic in the fact that so many people, including darwin himself, die as christians. you have to ask yourself, as atheists, we believe in no afterlife, if you were on your death bed, wouldnt it make sense to make penance with god? you  have nothing to lose, if ya get screwed in purgatory.. you at least died as a christian, dying as an atheist means no afterlife, no heaven, just a corpse, if ya died as a christian it provides hope.. people who make video games these days got it all figured out (sounds weird but its true, Final Fantasy 10 [X] deals alot with religion and whoever plays it betta not skip the surface, sounds childish but whatever). i will not do that and i will face death with whatever comes with it. but ill tell you this. I AINT MUTHA FUCKIN DYIN, until i feel its necessary.

You could hit me up on AIM or MSN if you want to talk about my religion, i'd be glad to discuss it.  I don't know many sikh websites, but try http://www.sikhs.org/topics.htm or http://www.sikhnet.com/s/SikhIntro

  -{bLaDe}
Title: Re:who believes in god
Post by: ·SiNiStEr· on June 01, 2003, 06:32:13 PM
ill hit you up on aim sometime.. ill peep these sites too
Title: Re:who believes in god
Post by: Z the laidback Virus on June 02, 2003, 08:55:13 AM

ps what kinda fuckin person dont belive in god u sum kinda fukin alien or animal or sumthin dogg

This has to be one of the most retarded statements ever. :o >:( :(It's not really because i'm an atheist myself that I feel offended but because it's so completely respectless.Atheist as I am and convinced of the correctness of my views (as any of you is) I don't go call people who believe otherwise names.If there's one thing in life I really believe is very important to everyone,it's respect.Without respect we're nowhere.Most will agree with me on that one.Just so ya know.

PS-I don't fear dying or what might (or might not) come afterwards for me.If there is something it works out nice for me,if there isn't,I won't be able to notice! ;D :D ;)
Title: Re:who believes in god
Post by: Juda on June 05, 2003, 03:15:07 PM
 I believe in him, but sometimes l loose faith ::)
Title: Re:who believes in god
Post by: TheSheriff on June 05, 2003, 05:10:35 PM
*switches into William of Occam mode*

One should not make assumptions unless they are abosulutely necessary. We must accept there was a creative force behind the universe, or else we would not be here; furthermore, it is a reasonable hypothesis to say there is some guiding force, or, at least, something more powerful than humanity.

Pax.
Title: Re:who believes in god
Post by: Z the laidback Virus on June 06, 2003, 06:48:00 AM
*switches into William of Occam mode*

One should not make assumptions unless they are abosulutely necessary. We must accept there was a creative force behind the universe, or else we would not be here; furthermore, it is a reasonable hypothesis to say there is some guiding force, or, at least, something more powerful than humanity.

And you say that isn't an assumption?

Pax.

And don't use a word to try and make yourself look interesting.It doesn't work.
Title: Re:who believes in god
Post by: TheSheriff on June 06, 2003, 07:34:29 AM
You seem to have failed to read my post. As for pax, now, if you knew anything about William of Occam, you'd know he wrote in Latin.

You jackass. Do you enjoy trolling, or something?
Title: Re:who believes in god
Post by: Z the laidback Virus on June 07, 2003, 12:57:06 AM
You jackass. Do you enjoy trolling, or something?

Yeah I'm trolling or something else. If you translate something out of Latin,there's little point to end it in Latin. Oh yeah and there's no reason to call me a jackass.What about manners,my friend?
Title: Re:who believes in god
Post by: ·SiNiStEr· on June 07, 2003, 11:23:04 AM
any of yall need a lesson in latin just holla at me
Title: Re:who believes in god
Post by: Blood Rain on June 08, 2003, 06:31:52 PM
jesus is life man i always believe in him