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Title: I dont understand Americans.
Post by: 40oz GRApHire on July 31, 2003, 03:14:41 AM
September 11th is probally one the most tragic dates in the American History. The 9/11 terrorist attacks killed 1000s of People.

George Bush Jr. declaired War to the Jihad. George Bush Jr. tries to track down Bin Landin which from today is still not found. Onces again the US declaires Bush as a saint. All of a sudden Bush restarts a half past death war "The Golf War". Europe (French, Germany & Belgium) strongly disagree with the way the US tries to manupilate the world to support US & UK in the war against Saddam. This action took away the UN war aprovement but still it didnt stop Bush & Blair to bomb Iraq. The US "wins" the war (against nobody  ::)) & Bush is Mr Saint onces again. The next day the US newspapers disrespect Europe (French, Germany & Belgium) with "The US Was Right To Start This War". Which makes no sense at all. There was to this day no Nuc or other human race destructing weapon found which the US claimed. The only thing Bush accomplished is getting rid of Saddam which was not the mission of this war. Thanks to this war he erased the UN's authority which is very bad for the future wars. I understand why the Americans want some kind of revenge for the 9/11 tragic but if Bush cant get Bin Landen doesnt mean he should get Saddam instead as second choice because he may had connectionns to Al Qayda which also is not proven.

I ask myself how you can support such a president that has killed more people then 5 WCC towers togetter. Is that we you call the American proud?
Title: Re:I dont understand Americans.
Post by: Z the laidback Virus on July 31, 2003, 03:17:53 AM
you summarise exactly how i think about it...........i would have given you props if I had reached 500 posts. ;D :D
Title: Re:I dont understand Americans.
Post by: OpTiCaL on July 31, 2003, 05:15:22 AM
Well im not commenting on that..


...but what i dont get is how "THE WAR ON TERRORISM IS HERE"


but the us government and alot of us people (esp in ny area) still pay money to fund the IRA...


...the ira are a terrorist organisation whom have been killing for over 100 years now for the sake of a religion...


...wtf ?


i know this has been going on for centuries..but how is one terrorist not as bad as another...

...btw more lives have been lost to the ira than the twin towers just in case no-one knows...


...how many innocent people have lost their lives...again i know of poeple who have lost relatives through this shit...

...and no im not talking about in ireland...im talking about in the uk...brighton for one and london...my dad was working in central london "the ring of steel" a few years ago when a  bomb went off in the opposite bulding to where he was...


stupid... if we wanna end terrorism...then do it to all terrorist organisations...what about the bask terrorists in spain etc etc


How can the destruction of one group but promoting / supporting of another group be justified ???
Title: Re:I dont understand Americans.
Post by: 40oz GRApHire on July 31, 2003, 05:39:07 AM
I'm agreeing about the Terrorism part but how come if Bush as world leader makes such stupid decisions while having the world's smartest people behind him & knowing a war like that never solves anything, it only makes it worse, because now other terrorist groups so how much attention they gave to Al Qauda & they want it also & now what do you get? Terrorist Attacks alot! People arent save to go to work now, scared of a Terrorist comeback attack & all of that fuck up shit...  :-\
Title: Re:I dont understand Americans.
Post by: CareBear on July 31, 2003, 06:19:59 AM
September 11th is probally one the most tragic dates in the American History. The 9/11 terrorist attacks killed 1000s of People.

George Bush Jr. declaired War to the Jihad. George Bush Jr. tries to track down Bin Landin which from today is still not found. Onces again the US declaires Bush as a saint. All of a sudden Bush restarts a half past death war "The Golf War". Europe (French, Germany & Belgium) strongly disagree with the way the US tries to manupilate the world to support US & UK in the war against Saddam. This action took away the UN war aprovement but still it didnt stop Bush & Blair to bomb Iraq. The US "wins" the war (against nobody  ::)) & Bush is Mr Saint onces again. The next day the US newspapers disrespect Europe (French, Germany & Belgium) with "The US Was Right To Start This War". Which makes no sense at all. There was to this day no Nuc or other human race destructing weapon found which the US claimed. The only thing Bush accomplished is getting rid of Saddam which was not the mission of this war. Thanks to this war he erased the UN's authority which is very bad for the future wars. I understand why the Americans want some kind of revenge for the 9/11 tragic but if Bush cant get Bin Landen doesnt mean he should get Saddam instead as second choice because he may had connectionns to Al Qayda which also is not proven.

I ask myself how you can support such a president that has killed more people then 5 WCC towers togetter. Is that we you call the American proud?

Hey all American don't support Bush....stop the playa-hatin dogg. If Im not wrong a majority of Americans dont support Bush at this point.  And yeah Bush went a little psycho with the power...but  what can u say bout a cokehead??? :D pZ
Title: Re:I dont understand Americans.
Post by: pappy on July 31, 2003, 10:12:37 AM
dubbya's approval raiting has been droppin like a rock
Title: Re:I dont understand Americans.
Post by: JTSimon on July 31, 2003, 02:15:03 PM
you summarise exactly how i think about it...........i would have given you props if I had reached 500 posts. ;D :D

CIA are the biggest Terrorist in the world. What will happen now for Bush to win elections?
Title: Re:I dont understand Americans.
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on August 01, 2003, 12:07:05 AM
Wachu expect? Bush is a crack-head.......no joke.......lol
Title: Re:I dont understand Americans.
Post by: [Stoned]Jesus H. Christ[Wheat] on August 01, 2003, 01:56:26 AM
you summarise exactly how i think about it...........i would have given you props if I had reached 500 posts. ;D :D
Title: Re:I dont understand Americans.
Post by: M Dogg™ on August 01, 2003, 07:27:21 PM
It's like this. A Nazi propaganda person said in order to make people go to war, first they must feel like they are threaten (terriorist come from Saddam and they are making nucular weapons - check), then you must tell them that they are unpatriotic for being pacisfist (every anti war person is villianized, and the Dixie Chicks are boycottic - check). This way the people feel that war is the only way, and to be against it is un-American. See, when Clinton was in office, the goal was to avoid war, now I hear people that supported him talk about how Clinton was too weak of a president, and how we were to peaceful for too long. Supporting anyone against the war is to support a tratior, because they are unpatriotic. A Nazi propaganda specialist said basically that, and Bush's advisers followed it perfect. And the United States is the best at propaganda in the world. After all, how do feminist support Bill Clinton, a straight pimp womenizer, or peace loving people support George Bush, a war hungry person. It makes no sense.   :(
Title: Re:I dont understand Americans.
Post by: js83 on August 02, 2003, 08:37:54 PM
Man hell nah. I don't support his ass at all. I really hope he dosen't get elected again...
Title: Re:I dont understand Americans.
Post by: eS El Duque on August 02, 2003, 11:39:02 PM
September 11th is probally one the most tragic dates in the American History. The 9/11 terrorist attacks killed 1000s of People.

George Bush Jr. declaired War to the Jihad. George Bush Jr. tries to track down Bin Landin which from today is still not found. Onces again the US declaires Bush as a saint. All of a sudden Bush restarts a half past death war "The Golf War". Europe (French, Germany & Belgium) strongly disagree with the way the US tries to manupilate the world to support US & UK in the war against Saddam. This action took away the UN war aprovement but still it didnt stop Bush & Blair to bomb Iraq. The US "wins" the war (against nobody  ::)) & Bush is Mr Saint onces again. The next day the US newspapers disrespect Europe (French, Germany & Belgium) with "The US Was Right To Start This War". Which makes no sense at all. There was to this day no Nuc or other human race destructing weapon found which the US claimed. The only thing Bush accomplished is getting rid of Saddam which was not the mission of this war. Thanks to this war he erased the UN's authority which is very bad for the future wars. I understand why the Americans want some kind of revenge for the 9/11 tragic but if Bush cant get Bin Landen doesnt mean he should get Saddam instead as second choice because he may had connectionns to Al Qayda which also is not proven.

I ask myself how you can support such a president that has killed more people then 5 WCC towers togetter. Is that we you call the American proud?

hey...got one question...where you get this info that he's killed 5 WCC towers of poeple?? i just wanna know if this is a fact :)

and on another thing....you guys hear about the China thing? China gonna kick the shit out of Taiwan cuz its a rogue island...they now have like 400 plus missiles targeted  at Taiwan. Taiwan has a population of 25 million...the island is pretty small :S...and the only 'big' country thats gonna help taiwan is America....so why arn't we all over China's [insert China's leader here] and calling this dude a fukin moron??? well, there's just too much hate for america to give a SHIT about what other countries do..huh? (you can find most of this shit on google..under news *search taiwan*)

I live in Canada..not USA...but pro-USA  ;D (lets go green bay packers!)
Title: Re:I dont understand Americans.
Post by: Don Rizzle on August 05, 2003, 01:30:51 PM
Well im not commenting on that..


...but what i dont get is how "THE WAR ON TERRORISM IS HERE"


but the us government and alot of us people (esp in ny area) still pay money to fund the IRA...


...the ira are a terrorist organisation whom have been killing for over 100 years now for the sake of a religion...


...wtf ?


i know this has been going on for centuries..but how is one terrorist not as bad as another...

...btw more lives have been lost to the ira than the twin towers just in case no-one knows...


...how many innocent people have lost their lives...again i know of poeple who have lost relatives through this shit...

...and no im not talking about in ireland...im talking about in the uk...brighton for one and london...my dad was working in central london "the ring of steel" a few years ago when a  bomb went off in the opposite bulding to where he was...


stupid... if we wanna end terrorism...then do it to all terrorist organisations...what about the bask terrorists in spain etc etc


How can the destruction of one group but promoting / supporting of another group be justified ???


atleast with the ira they'd give us some warning before the bomb went off (definatly not saying i support them in any way) alquada just want to kill millions of westerners and were pretty powerless to stop that its a sad fact it just promotes further racial tension i certainly noticed it where i live. thing is if we're all so evil why do we have so many asain people flooding into our countries if were so bad stay the fuck with your own, don't preach hate when your a guest in another country. i know its not the view of everyone in the middleeast but those in power there should do a hell of alot more stop terrorism or ppl worse than bush will come into power and there will be world war 3.

and all these suicide bombers r cowards goin to hell, i can understand dying for a cause but goin out like that is a cowards way of ding things, there isn't any honor in that.
Title: Re:I dont understand Americans.
Post by: OpTiCaL on August 06, 2003, 03:29:18 AM
Well im not commenting on that..


...but what i dont get is how "THE WAR ON TERRORISM IS HERE"


but the us government and alot of us people (esp in ny area) still pay money to fund the IRA...


...the ira are a terrorist organisation whom have been killing for over 100 years now for the sake of a religion...


...wtf ?


i know this has been going on for centuries..but how is one terrorist not as bad as another...

...btw more lives have been lost to the ira than the twin towers just in case no-one knows...


...how many innocent people have lost their lives...again i know of poeple who have lost relatives through this shit...

...and no im not talking about in ireland...im talking about in the uk...brighton for one and london...my dad was working in central london "the ring of steel" a few years ago when a  bomb went off in the opposite bulding to where he was...


stupid... if we wanna end terrorism...then do it to all terrorist organisations...what about the bask terrorists in spain etc etc


How can the destruction of one group but promoting / supporting of another group be justified ???


atleast with the ira they'd give us some warning before the bomb went off (definatly not saying i support them in any way) alquada just want to kill millions of westerners and were pretty powerless to stop that its a sad fact it just promotes further racial tension i certainly noticed it where i live. thing is if we're all so evil why do we have so many asain people flooding into our countries if were so bad stay the fuck with your own, don't preach hate when your a guest in another country. i know its not the view of everyone in the middleeast but those in power there should do a hell of alot more stop terrorism or ppl worse than bush will come into power and there will be world war 3.

and all these suicide bombers r cowards goin to hell, i can understand dying for a cause but goin out like that is a cowards way of ding things, there isn't any honor in that.



racial tension i certainly noticed it where i live. thing is if we're all so evil why do we have so many asain people flooding into our countries if were so bad stay the fuck with your own, don't preach hate when your a guest in another country.


yeah i agree with that...coming from south london...seen all the time...

but the ira thing...its the same..they have in a sense people willing to commit suicide for "the cause"...and muslims declaring ji'had against the west / other religions is no different to catholics v protestants...irish vs "english" although they murdered not only english when they put bombs in this country and even murdered their own...nail bombs btw or cluster bombs are far more sick & brutal method of killing than mines / guns / knives / usual incendary devices...
...there must be no love for any die hard religious fanaticist for peace to ever exist...
...im not pro war...my point is we cant tolerate (and financially support) one killing regime and not another...the powers that be in the usa (and believe me these groups are powerful to have put in the support they have,remain anonymous and state not shut them down) have only just been shown to support the ira movement although proof is now that they have been doing it for over 20 years!
Title: Re:I dont understand Americans.
Post by: |JEM|ILL| on August 06, 2003, 07:08:16 AM
hmm...I feel isolated bein for the war.
Title: Re:I dont understand Americans.
Post by: Pimpdogg on August 09, 2003, 04:39:21 AM

atleast with the ira they'd give us some warning before the bomb went off

apart from that time when they gave a warning and then set a bomb off in the place where the people had been evacuated to
Title: Re:I dont understand Americans.
Post by: Trauma-san on August 11, 2003, 11:52:02 PM
Damn, you're right, you don't understand Americans.  
Title: Re:I dont understand Americans.
Post by: Trauma-san on August 11, 2003, 11:54:42 PM
(every anti war person is villianized, and the Dixie Chicks are boycottic - check).

M Dogg, you're more intelligent than that.  Bush never even mentioned the Dixie Chicks, you're NOT a fan, and a boycott was a decision of SOME of the american people.  Not everybody Boycotted them, it was a private decision by american people, in a democratic society, you can choose who you like, and who you don't like.  After that bitch said that crap about a president that I like, I chose not to like her ass.  I don't listen to her for political views, I listen because she has a nice voice and I like the music.  She expressed her political views, I didn't agree, and I don't feel like buying her music anymore, simple as that.  It's america, a boycott is american.  
Title: Re:I dont understand Americans.
Post by: Disceptive AssAssin on August 12, 2003, 10:54:35 PM
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.... isnt anything else going on in the world...
Title: Re:I dont understand Americans.
Post by: Blood Rain on August 13, 2003, 08:36:35 PM
i aint american, lol  ;D
Title: Re:I dont understand Americans.
Post by: CRAFTY on August 20, 2003, 06:53:56 AM
Man hell nah. I don't support his ass at all. I really hope he dosen't get elected again...