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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Trauma-san on August 23, 2003, 11:52:16 PM
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I mean, today. In the past, the democratic party was very respectable, it's the party that brought us JFK, for pete's sake.
Just a strange comment, but remember back in the day it was the republican party that was pushing to end slavery, in the 1800's... that's kind of weird, now the republican party is accused of being racist, when it was the democrats who opposed ending slavery, LOL. Democrats are historically opressors.
Republicans have never been opressors, just portrayed that way. To DATE, democrats still want you dependent on the government, they don't want you free.
Basic republican beliefs are that the government has too big of a role in the lives of ordinary americans, and that the constitution should be upheld in every possible way. Taxes should be lowered for ALL people, and a man has the right to make as much money as he wants.
Basic democrat beliefs are that the government should always be bigger. We always need more programs to help people, because lord knows they're too stupid to help themselves. We need to provide everything for the people, they can't even be expected to provide themselves with food, we need to provide them food for free. How will we do this? By taking their money from them in the form of taxes, and then giving them the things they need to survive, give them food, give them housing, give them medical care; lord knows they would never be able to spend their own money on it. If someone is rich, then we should take MORE of their money away from them, they have no right to be that rich. The people simply CANNOT live without the help of the government, we need more programs, we need people to be dependent on the government; after all, as democrats, running the country, we are more intelligent than your average citizen, and can therefore SPEND THEIR MONEY BETTER THAN THEY CAN.
It comes down to that, folks. The democratic party (NOT democrats, your average democrat doesn't think this way, only those that are leading the democratic party today think like this.)... the democratic party is all about slavery, they always have been. In the past, they wanted you in shackles, today, they want all your money so they can make your decisions for you.
Why in the HELL would you be a democrat?
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I do. You talk of ignorice homie. I respect you, but you are listening to too much bull shit. The demorat party is still about education that works. This No Child Left Behind is a bunch of garage. I looked it up, studied it. I'm an education major, it's my job. I looked at it with an openned mind, since I was for this Compassate Conservative stuff, and I saw just pure bull shit. Also, Democrats have halp cut programs. The goal is not more programs, but ones that work. Bill Clinton was for welfare reform. It's like, what more do you want. I know of plenty of Democrats in congress that are for the rights to arms, and many other things. You generalize every democrat leader. It'd be like if I thought every republican is the same way. I personally didn't want Arnold to run for governor of Cali because I fell Richard Rerdon would be the best governor Cali would have in many years, and his a republican. I have looked at the parties, and you are not educated in politics at all. It's all good, I've heard to talk shows, I know what you are saying, too bad you don't.
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Hmm, you ignored the entire post. Read it again, and then answer any of the things I mentioned.
1. - total fact that democrats were for slavery.
2. - total fact that democrats want more and more money out of your pocket each year, they want you dependent on the government.
3. - Democrats have an elitist attitude, they think that they can spend your money better than you can, they think they are more intelligent than you when it comes to raising your family.
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Hmm, you ignored the entire post. Read it again, and then answer any of the things I mentioned.
1. - total fact that democrats were for slavery.
2. - total fact that democrats want more and more money out of your pocket each year, they want you dependent on the government.
3. - Democrats have an elitist attitude, they think that they can spend your money better than you can, they think they are more intelligent than you when it comes to raising your family.
1 - history, almost everyone was for slavery, including the founding forefathers. Thomas Jefferson, who was for human rights, owned slaves.
2 - Democrats aren't going to do what the public wouldn't allow them to do. When the public wanted to cut welfare, Bill Clinton cut welfare. It's that easy, I've seen it done before.
3 - That's a complete lie, it's what is told to the ignorite people in the work, to get them to think the Democrats are Elitist, which is generally thought of as Republican. Democrats are for social programs that have worked in the past to help poor people, and struggling people.
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marty you never answer my PM... :'(
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ronnie, ronnie, ronnie..
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an why be a republican. the last president was a democrat an the economy was booming an an we werent in any wars. now our president is a republican an where involved in a war an our economy is currently in the shitter. as a matter of fact why the fuck be a democrat, why not just support the man who is the best
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total fact that democrats were for slavery.
Hmmm. Correct, in that the southern Democrats and the Northern Democrats were totally split on the issue. But the two most important Presidents in terms of the Civil Rights battle were JFK and to a greater extent LBJ. Both democrats.
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republicans are a bunch of rednecks, and just cause democrats were for slavery like 100 years ago, means NOTHING, times change, and it has nothing to do with todays people running for democrat party
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its weird how people from around the world know u.s history more than some of the u.s residents... I'm from the u.s and i know brief histories bout other countries but some peeps from europe look like they study u.s history.
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an why be a republican. the last president was a democrat an the economy was booming an an we werent in any wars. now our president is a republican an where involved in a war an our economy is currently in the shitter. as a matter of fact why the fuck be a democrat, why not just support the man who is the best
Clinton had the luxury of the .com era and mad money being spent in the tech sector to deal with the Y2K bug (the biggest marketing propaganda ever.)
Bush had to deal with .com bubble burst and 911.
Clinton was in the right place right time.
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Clinton was in the right place right time.
The oval office :D
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Clinton was in the right place right time.
The oval office :D
Clinton adored JFK, wanted to be like JFK in everyway.
JFK's presidency was called Camelot...but it should have been called Cumalot, cause he came alot!
Clinton's should be called Cumalittle. You know, a little on the desk, a little on the dress.
JFK shot for the stars! He banged Marilyn Monroe. Clinton showed his dick to a government clerk. Theres a dropoff here a dropoff.
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JFK's presidency was called Camelot...but it should have been called Cumalot, cause he came alot!
And you should know, right? Please stop right there. :-X
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an why be a republican. the last president was a democrat an the economy was booming an an we werent in any wars. now our president is a republican an where involved in a war an our economy is currently in the shitter. as a matter of fact why the fuck be a democrat, why not just support the man who is the best
Clinton had the luxury of the .com era and mad money being spent in the tech sector to deal with the Y2K bug (the biggest marketing propaganda ever.)
Bush had to deal with .com bubble burst and 911.
Clinton was in the right place right time.
Ah young grass hopper, economy was Clinton's game though. Remember his slogan to George Bush Sr. "It's the economy stupit" Clinton had programs to help out the economy, and what not. When Bush came in, everyone knew the economy would fall, it was how he handled it that would judge his economic policies. Lets just say we have the highest un-employment since the last Republican in office, his dad.
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JFK's presidency was called Camelot...but it should have been called Cumalot, cause he came alot!
And you should know, right? Please stop right there. :-X
Listen to some George Carlin.
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To keep my post short, Clinton was great; Bush is pathetic. A perfect example of "If he can do it, anyone can (or should be able to)". A person as dumb as George Bush being the leader of the world's 'leading' nation, really makes you wonder.
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Hmm, you ignored the entire post. Read it again, and then answer any of the things I mentioned.
1. - total fact that democrats were for slavery.
2. - total fact that democrats want more and more money out of your pocket each year, they want you dependent on the government.
3. - Democrats have an elitist attitude, they think that they can spend your money better than you can, they think they are more intelligent than you when it comes to raising your family.
How you make such stupid sweepin statements and attempt to dismiss the views of millions of your countrymen baffles me.
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It's Black and White, what is there to baffle.
True, or False.
Democrats want to raise taxes.
True, or False.
Raising Taxes means less money for you.
True, or False.
Less money for you means a more dependent lifestyle on the government.
True, or False.
Being dependent on the government is a way of controlling your independence, and therefore, your Freedom.
How is this hard to grasp? The modern democratic party is akin to slavery. I'm not trying to downplay slavery in the past, of course it was much more horrible than what I'm talking about, but it's still us being robbed of our freedom. It's Black & White, everytime a democrat seeks to increase the size of government, and the control it has on your life, they strip your liberty away. If you can't see that, you're blind.
It's a law of averages, how in the hell can the government provide for me better with my money than I can for myself? They can't, look at the bullshit they spend my money on. It's fucking rediculous, and the democratic party wants to do MORE of that? How can anybody support that? It's mind boggling how stupid some people are.
Black and white.
If I came up to you, and said that I needed 25 percent of your check, and I would spend it for you for your benefit, you'd tell me to go get fucked. We should tell the government to go get fucked.
Also, for the lame brained, I'm not talking about a total abandonment of government. I'm talking about a cutback on the outrageous programs we have put in place over the years, sure, some programs are very necessary, defense, welfare (to an extent) is of course always needed, education spending, etc. We HAVE to have taxes, I'm not an idiot. It's just that the modern democratic party wants to do nothing but increase our taxes through the fucking roof, it's rediculous. I refuse to accept that they can better provide for me with my money than I can myself.
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Now youre makin it seem like an rational human being would never be a Democrat. Yet, can u please explain how the brightest and smartest of your fellow countrymen are card carrying members of the Democratic party? Or how millions of Americans vote for them consistently?
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Now youre makin it seem like an rational human being would never be a Democrat. Yet, can u please explain how the brightest and smartest of your fellow countrymen are card carrying members of the Democratic party? Or how millions of Americans vote for them consistently?
Scorpion is making 2 points here.
1. It is dumb to vote for Democrats.
2. The majority of Americans are dumb.
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Since we have an elected Republican in office, and since the congress and house of representatives are a majority republican, and since the governorships of all 50 states are a majority republican, No, most of america ISN'T dumb. Look at how people live their actual lives, even those that vote democratic generally live conservatively.
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Scorpion, let me ask you something. Did more PEOPLE vote for Bush or Gore? Gore received more POPULAR VOTES; Bush received more ELECTORAL VOTES. This means that more PEOPLE voted for Gore, which according to you means that A MAJORITY OF AMERICANS ARE DUMB.
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Why in the HELL would you be a democrat?
Im assuming most democrats...like being democrats, cus their not some rich asshole with their head stuck up their ass.
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Why in the HELL would you be a democrat?
Im assuming most democrats...like being democrats, cus their not some rich asshole with their head stuck up their ass.
true. my families saying is, we're not rich enough to vote Republican.
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i usually stick up for trauma but most of my family and me (to an extent) are democrat, so i DISAGREE with this post.
democrats arn't the only one who want to raise taxes. Arnold (R) wants to take away the new car registration (which is going to be 3x as high , and was a good thing at first until...) and is going to raise property taxes ::thumbs down::
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^^ Actually, you're misinformed, he's not going to raise any taxes, he appeared on a talk show yesterday and was asked about all these things.
Guys, I'm not rich. I'm republican. The 'poor people are democrats, rich people are republicans' notion is a myth. In the Gore/Bush election, 80% of the 1 million dollar plus donations to the presidential election campaigns were to Gore. 80% of the people that donated more than 1 million dollars were democratic. Think about that.
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^^ Actually, you're misinformed, he's not going to raise any taxes, he appeared on a talk show yesterday and was asked about all these things.
Guys, I'm not rich. I'm republican. The 'poor people are democrats, rich people are republicans' notion is a myth. In the Gore/Bush election, 80% of the 1 million dollar plus donations to the presidential election campaigns were to Gore. 80% of the people that donated more than 1 million dollars were democratic. Think about that.
so according to your theory, its split 50/50 down tha middle...? lol Theres just as many "poor" republicans as there are "poor" democrats? And there is just as many "rich" republicans as there are "rich" democrats? lol...thats funny...
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Scorpion, let me ask you something. Did more PEOPLE vote for Bush or Gore? Gore received more POPULAR VOTES; Bush received more ELECTORAL VOTES. This means that more PEOPLE voted for Gore, which according to you means that A MAJORITY OF AMERICANS ARE DUMB.