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Title: C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on September 11, 2003, 10:40:01 AM
C-BO - "I'm at the point where if you ain't fuck with me yet and I been keeping it 100% real with you in the game, how could you overstep all the real niggas here and go all the way across the map and put niggas on? What's the thinking with that? I'm in the streets, I hear these niggas daily talking about why you ain't over there, why you ain't this, why you don't fuck with them? I been hearing this for too long. Maybe them niggas scared of me, man. Maybe them niggas heard about my record, my background or something. Salt niggas scared of real niggas cuz real niggas push salt niggas out the way."

YUKMOUTH - "Niggas gotta really recognize that the only niggas that they respect is Dre and Snoop right now and for us to get that love as a whole, Dre and Snoop gotta start giving love to everybody. They need to start collaborating with Bay niggas. Dre and them just stick to they own camps and that ain't right. When you go to Roc-A-Fella and then fuck with other camps and they all making money...If the Neptunes were so closed down that they were like 'naw we only gone do The Clipse' guess how much shit wouldn't be out right now? If Snoop Dogg would do a song with Dru Down and Too Short about the pimpin' shit since they all bitin' the pimpin' shit from the Bay anyway, if they'd do a song like that and really give love back we'd probably all be put back on but instead they go over there and hop on 50 Cent dick and give him the money and put them niggas on and they on already. We need to put ourselves ON period, cuz them niggas ain't coming over here to spend no money. They'll buy a Dre beat, they'll get Snoop to get some West Coast love but that's it. They ain't coming here to buy no E-40 verse but 40 goes over there and buys a Fabolous verse. Come on, it ain't like I'm saying fuck them niggas but come on let's spend money with each other and put each other on first because them niggas ain't fuckin with us like that."





Shiiit, I couldn't agree more...these muthafucaz are apparently TRYING 2 put tha West back on, but they aint gettin real West Coast muthafucaz to participate like back in the days...Mannn, if y'all listen to tha new Yukmouth record, U will understand, it's commercial and catchy just like anything 50 Cent puts out, but no one's putting him on, he is tha #1 cadidate rite now, but no one's showin luv...but they go searchin for talent in tha East, what part of the game is that? Fuck tha bullshit...These muthafucaz is good musicians but alwayz hoppin on East Coast dick and still question why tha West aint gettin no luv, why we never on da radio, why we never on BET or Mtv...mann, I dunno...shit is gay...














Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: CRAFTY on September 11, 2003, 10:53:56 AM
Thanks for posting this...I agree with it.
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: TSmitty on September 11, 2003, 11:15:07 AM
No doubt....Ive been a Snoop Dogg fan since day one.  But im startin to see him a little diffrently. Im not gonna hate on him but he needs to get back to his real self. Fuck all that Snoopy Collins, Bishop Don Magic Juan bullshit and get back to this westcoast music. He need to fuck with Yuk,E-40.IV Life etc. and get the westcoast crackin again.

Dre i cant really call it with him. If he aint down to do this westcoast ish then move on down the line. He aint the only producer in the game. He might be the best (imo) but with cats like Quik,Battlecat.Fredwreck,Jellyroll,DJ Slip,Warren G you cant blame lack of sales on not havin a dre beat.
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: LIFE on September 11, 2003, 11:34:41 AM
GOOD POST (AND I QUOTE) I TOTTALY AGREE
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: js83 on September 11, 2003, 12:14:55 PM
Thanks for posting this...I agree with it.

i feel the same...its just fucked up out here in da west...snoop and dre are both actin like lil bitches...
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: Lil Suge Knight on September 11, 2003, 12:19:01 PM
Agree...................I must cop myself there cds
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: Lord Funk on September 11, 2003, 12:56:45 PM
I couldn't disagree more.

All C-Bo and Yuk are doing is blaming two other men for their lack of commercial success - that's the bitch move IMO.

Don't go blaming the next man for making his moves the way he sees fit - if it doesn't benefit you then you better work double hard to make your own way.

And lol at C-Bo: dude got a guest spot on All Eyez On Me - if that ain't a good enough opportunity to blow yourself up mate, you best start re-thinking your strategy.

Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: PLANT on September 11, 2003, 01:51:14 PM
I couldn't disagree more.

All C-Bo and Yuk are doing is blaming two other men for their lack of commercial success - that's the bitch move IMO.

Don't go blaming the next man for making his moves the way he sees fit - if it doesn't benefit you then you better work double hard to make your own way.

And lol at C-Bo: dude got a guest spot on All Eyez On Me - if that ain't a good enough opportunity to blow yourself up mate, you best start re-thinking your strategy.


Couldnt agree more....

I like Yukmouth, But I wouldnt want to get down with E40 either because I dont like his style and never have....

Let Snoop and Dre work with whoever they want....Why hate on them for making business decisions? Im sure that Snoop and Dre dont know CBo and Yukmouth personally, so what are they complaining about anyway?  All this East/West bullshit is old, and stupid......
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: Duckman on September 11, 2003, 01:57:06 PM
Yukmouth is J Prince's Bitch
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: Code Blue on September 11, 2003, 02:02:30 PM
I kinda have mixed feelings about this. I will say though that I wish everyone from the West would stop the bullshit and join forces (Tha Row niggas and DPG niggas inlcuded). We'd hear the best music ever from the West if this happened.
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: Code Blue on September 11, 2003, 02:03:21 PM
Yukmouth is J Prince's Bitch


First intelligent thing I've ever seen you post.
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: Dr._Funkenstein on September 11, 2003, 02:04:04 PM
I couldn't disagree more.

All C-Bo and Yuk are doing is blaming two other men for their lack of commercial success - that's the bitch move IMO.

Don't go blaming the next man for making his moves the way he sees fit - if it doesn't benefit you then you better work double hard to make your own way.

And lol at C-Bo: dude got a guest spot on All Eyez On Me - if that ain't a good enough opportunity to blow yourself up mate, you best start re-thinking your strategy.

Word! Totally agree with you.
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: Adam Donnelly on September 11, 2003, 02:12:48 PM
I know what there saying but they cant just blame Snoop & Dre
They should go at Radio & Magazine's
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: Lil Jay on September 11, 2003, 02:30:01 PM

YUKMOUTH - [iIf Snoop Dogg would do a song with Dru Down and Too Short about the pimpin' shit since they all bitin' the pimpin' shit from the Bay anyway, if they'd do a song like that and really give love back we'd probably all be put back on but instead they go over there and hop on 50 Cent dick and give him the money and put them niggas on and they on already. We need to put ourselves ON period, cuz them niggas ain't coming over here to spend no money.

hmm Yuk has a valid point, but then again it could be like Lord Funk said, he's just mad and jealous cause Snoop has much more commercial success and they started on the same level. But Id be interesting to hear what Snoop Dogg would say about Yuk's statement. I bet they dont really wanna get down with Snoop & Dre, they just wanna make profits and a piece of the pie without doing extra work
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: eS El Duque on September 11, 2003, 03:37:06 PM
ever hear about the east-coast bias ;D;D???

but anywayz....isn't The Game from the west...ain't he suppossed be bring the west back???;D;D;D...heh i know more about The game than i do about Yukmouth and C-Bo cuz i hate their music. :)
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: Lincoln on September 11, 2003, 03:42:52 PM
I agree to a point. Not that Dre & Snoop have to work them specifically, but that they both just work with 50 cause he's the hot thing right now. Snoop did bite that Dru Down/Too $hort style too but doesn't really work with either (except $hort on You Thought). Then again it's probably just for attention for Bo & Yuk. They have some valid points tho.
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: PLANT on September 11, 2003, 03:58:53 PM
Another things is I think 50 is the one hollering at Snoop...."P.I.M.P." was 50's song, not Snoop's.....Yukmouth's an idiot.....Youre telling me if 50 cent called you up and said "I want you to be on the PIMP remix".....what..is Yukmouth gona turn him down?  Bitch Please!.....Plus, it also worked out due to the fact they were on tour together for Roc Tha Mic......I cant speak for Dre, but I know Snoop's been putting in crazy work lately, he tours everywhere, and is pumping out mixtapes left right and center to promote his shit......I dont see Yukmouth doing any of that...
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: Adam Donnelly on September 11, 2003, 04:08:58 PM
Look what Pac did when he came out of Jail
When he done All Eyez On Me
He reached out and put a lot of people down
Like Dru Down, 4 Tay and on & on
 
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: D.R.E.-Dogg on September 11, 2003, 05:01:51 PM
Another things is I think 50 is the one hollering at Snoop...."P.I.M.P." was 50's song, not Snoop's.....Yukmouth's an idiot.....Youre telling me if 50 cent called you up and said "I want you to be on the PIMP remix".....what..is Yukmouth gona turn him down?  Bitch Please!

exctly..

and Yuk is a clown anyway for hatin on 50's success all of a sudden after he said he was one of the very few cats he was really feelin at the moment


and wtf is bo talkin about they scared of working with em cuz they real niggas..? LoL that's nearly as funny as tha row callin their shit "too gangsta 4 the radio" cuz they know there will be no air plaay for their shit at all
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: Twentytwofifty on September 11, 2003, 05:17:37 PM
These two are pathetic.
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: Raiders4Life on September 11, 2003, 05:57:34 PM

exctly..

and Yuk is a clown anyway for hatin on 50's success all of a sudden after he said he was one of the very few cats he was really feelin at the moment

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I heard some shit about 50 hating on the Bay... sayin "fuck oakland" so i think thats why they hatin on 50
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on September 11, 2003, 07:04:53 PM
Im sure that Snoop and Dre dont know CBo and Yukmouth personally, so what are they complaining about anyway?  All this East/West bullshit is old, and stupid......

They dunno eachother personally? lol...cmon man...everybody out here know or met eachother 1 time or another and got contacts...

What are they complaining about? MANY things...for example: East Coast muthafuckas got an attitude like we made hip-hop, fuck the world. So if the West Coast says shit, it's gangsta and gangbanging. These niggas talking about slanging crack, gangbanging and all that shit in their videos and it's A-okay. Jay-Z's talking about he takes the cake from under the baker's thump and gets two of those for one. He's talking about moving weight and it's getting played all day. But let Yukmouth talk about I'm whippin some shit up in the kitchen/palsm itchin. Man they ain't gone play that on BET.

All this west coast/east coast shit is gettin old? Well I guess U say that shit cuzz U aint here...or maybe U are and ain't really out there seeing what tha fuck is happenin...shady ass shit...and seeing these West Coast heads that have a chance to make a difference ride East Coast nuts is just DISAPPOINTING...2pac just like Snoop and Dre had a chance back in 95 and he put us all on...Back then Bay Area waz respected like a muthafuca...

And whoever said shit like these muthafucaz aint workin as hard as Snoop or Dre, U aint knowin shit...what tha fuck do U kno? People like Snoop and Dre, them niggas HAVE money, they aint gotta work that hard, they enjoying themselves and lettin tha money take care of tha rest...THAT is why they maintain...MONEY!
These cats out here workin harder than a muthafuca, but U just don't hear about everything they be doin like U hear about Snoop, shiiit, nowadayz Snoop puts on a pound and all these muthafucaz broadcast it...GAY!


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and wtf is bo talkin about they scared of working with em cuz they real niggas..? LoL that's nearly as funny as tha row callin their shit "too gangsta 4 the radio" cuz they know there will be no air plaay for their shit at all

WAT THA FUCK? LMAOO.....Apparently U dunno nuthin about West Coast Mafia heads mayne.....lol, they will destroy Death Row or any of them Pirus out there if they got in they way.....Y'all just dunno this shit because U aint seen shit about em on TV or haven't seen no lil Death Row type of documentaries or magazine features about them lol.....nahmsayin?

And if U aint heard GODZILLA, then U shouldn't be talkin.....I mean if U feelin 50 there's no reason not to feel YUK.....most of his songs on this album are hard shit turned commercial just like 50.....except 4 tha fact that YUK is a way better lyricist.....

But no hate against 50, I feel 50.....Fuck da bullshit, I'm just tryin 2 make y'all realize what these muthafucaz talkin bout.....Ain't even about YUK or BO.....It's about EVERYTHING, EVERYONE dats puttin it down out here.....They won't let us climb tha hill.....














Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: Black_Smoke on September 11, 2003, 07:09:04 PM
yea i agree

snoop and dre need to start fuckin wit tha bay

and the Yukmouth cd is dope

Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: Duckman on September 11, 2003, 07:26:24 PM
"I heard some shit about 50 hating on the Bay... sayin "fuck oakland" so i think thats why they hatin on 50"



50 never said "fuck Oakland"
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on September 11, 2003, 07:33:24 PM
Wat kinda bullshit? 50 wouldn't dare say "Fuck Oakland"
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: PLANT on September 11, 2003, 07:57:19 PM
Im sure that Snoop and Dre dont know CBo and Yukmouth personally, so what are they complaining about anyway?  All this East/West bullshit is old, and stupid......

They dunno eachother personally? lol...cmon man...everybody out here know or met eachother 1 time or another and got contacts...

What are they complaining about? MANY things...for example: East Coast muthafuckas got an attitude like we made hip-hop, fuck the world. So if the West Coast says shit, it's gangsta and gangbanging. These niggas talking about slanging crack, gangbanging and all that shit in their videos and it's A-okay. Jay-Z's talking about he takes the cake from under the baker's thump and gets two of those for one. He's talking about moving weight and it's getting played all day. But let Yukmouth talk about I'm whippin some shit up in the kitchen/palsm itchin. Man they ain't gone play that on BET.

All this west coast/east coast shit is gettin old? Well I guess U say that shit cuzz U aint here...or maybe U are and ain't really out there seeing what tha fuck is happenin...shady ass shit...and seeing these West Coast heads that have a chance to make a difference ride East Coast nuts is just DISAPPOINTING...2pac just like Snoop and Dre had a chance back in 95 and he put us all on...Back then Bay Area waz respected like a muthafuca...

And whoever said shit like these muthafucaz aint workin as hard as Snoop or Dre, U aint knowin shit...what tha fuck do U kno? People like Snoop and Dre, them niggas HAVE money, they aint gotta work that hard, they enjoying themselves and lettin tha money take care of tha rest...THAT is why they maintain...MONEY!
These cats out here workin harder than a muthafuca, but U just don't hear about everything they be doin like U hear about Snoop, shiiit, nowadayz Snoop puts on a pound and all these muthafucaz broadcast it...GAY!


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and wtf is bo talkin about they scared of working with em cuz they real niggas..? LoL that's nearly as funny as tha row callin their shit "too gangsta 4 the radio" cuz they know there will be no air plaay for their shit at all

WAT THA FUCK? LMAOO.....Apparently U dunno nuthin about West Coast Mafia heads mayne.....lol, they will destroy Death Row or any of them Pirus out there if they got in they way.....Y'all just dunno this shit because U aint seen shit about em on TV or haven't seen no lil Death Row type of documentaries or magazine features about them lol.....nahmsayin?

And if U aint heard GODZILLA, then U shouldn't be talkin.....I mean if U feelin 50 there's no reason not to feel YUK.....most of his songs on this album are hard shit turned commercial just like 50.....except 4 tha fact that YUK is a way better lyricist.....

But no hate against 50, I feel 50.....Fuck da bullshit, I'm just tryin 2 make y'all realize what these muthafucaz talkin bout.....Ain't even about YUK or BO.....It's about EVERYTHING, EVERYONE dats puttin it down out here.....They won't let us climb tha hill.....















Sorry, I guess Im a little outta my league here...... ::)

Why would I hate on Snoop for putting people on...
Tray Dee, Goldie Loc, Bad Azz, E White, Kurupt, Daz, Soopa, and so on.........

Snoop puts enough people "on" IMO that Yukmouth cant complain about them not showing love the the westcoast....

Anyway, it dont matter I gots my opinion and you got yours.....At the end of the day, its just music. And music shouldnt be about where you from, its where you at!  ;)
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on September 11, 2003, 08:00:56 PM
Snoop did put alot of acts in the game...But I do agree that he doesnt show love to the bay...I wonder why they used to do tight music back then
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: Jome on September 11, 2003, 10:15:47 PM
These two are pathetic.
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: E. J. Rizo on September 11, 2003, 11:43:40 PM
im tired of people blaming snoop and dre especially for there failure and using him as an excuse fuck them go get your own shit......people bitching like oh dre dont help me...booo fuckin hooooo. too bad stop fuckin complaingin and using others as your excuse.
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: Bomb-AŽ on September 11, 2003, 11:56:21 PM
YUKMOUTH - "Niggas gotta really recognize that the only niggas that they respect is Dre and Snoop right now and for us to get that love as a whole, Dre and Snoop gotta start giving love to everybody. They need to start collaborating with Bay niggas. Dre and them just stick to they own camps and that ain't right. When you go to Roc-A-Fella and then fuck with other camps and they all making money...If the Neptunes were so closed down that they were like 'naw we only gone do The Clipse' guess how much shit wouldn't be out right now? If Snoop Dogg would do a song with Dru Down and Too Short about the pimpin' shit since they all bitin' the pimpin' shit from the Bay anyway, if they'd do a song like that and really give love back we'd probably all be put back on but instead they go over there and hop on 50 Cent dick and give him the money and put them niggas on and they on already. We need to put ourselves ON period, cuz them niggas ain't coming over here to spend no money. They'll buy a Dre beat, they'll get Snoop to get some West Coast love but that's it. They ain't coming here to buy no E-40 verse but 40 goes over there and buys a Fabolous verse. Come on, it ain't like I'm saying fuck them niggas but come on let's spend money with each other and put each other on first because them niggas ain't fuckin with us like that."

very true



peace
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on September 12, 2003, 12:05:03 AM
im tired of people blaming snoop and dre especially for there failure and using him as an excuse fuck them go get your own shit......people bitching like oh dre dont help me...booo fuckin hooooo. too bad stop fuckin complaingin and using others as your excuse.



Ur missing tha whole point...It's a lil deep for tha average fan...




Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: .:DayGoStyLz:. on September 12, 2003, 12:37:30 AM
its funny how many people speakin on this and aint even frum Kali...

I feel EXACTLY what they sayin. To me, u start at home. NY dont give a shit about any westcoast rappas, and thas how they got to where they are now. They hated their way to the top. Westcoast rap gets no play out there, but yet u got tha biggest names in Westcoast rap...basically turnin they back on a LOT of talent out here, to go for tha "big buckz" out on MTV in NY. Thas tha definition of a "sell out". Tha reason tha West blew up so much back in tha early 90's, is because everybody contributed...and stuck togetha. The East couldnt compete. Then they stopped playin, and sellin our shit out there...and moved up. Snoop and them muhafuckas betta recognize tho. They gonna get to tha point where the West aint on they back no more, and they really gonna be hurtin. If they homestate stop supportin em...then what are u left wit? Doggy Fizzle Telefizzle?! lol. Cmon. Im tired of alotta these muhafuckaz. Im all kali about mah shit, but i like tha way tha East been thinkin, and thas..."if it aint us, Fuck it". Our radio stations, rapperz, everything...should git that mentality. If NY wanna give tha West sum airtime...then we give them airtime. If not, then we shouldnt play they shit eitha. But these stations out hea aint got tha balls tah do dat shit. Itz a shame...
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: js83 on September 12, 2003, 01:21:03 AM
its funny how many people speakin on this and aint even frum Kali...

I feel EXACTLY what they sayin. To me, u start at home. NY dont give a shit about any westcoast rappas, and thas how they got to where they are now. They hated their way to the top. Westcoast rap gets no play out there, but yet u got tha biggest names in Westcoast rap...basically turnin they back on a LOT of talent out here, to go for tha "big buckz" out on MTV in NY. Thas tha definition of a "sell out". Tha reason tha West blew up so much back in tha early 90's, is because everybody contributed...and stuck togetha. The East couldnt compete. Then they stopped playin, and sellin our shit out there...and moved up. Snoop and them muhafuckas betta recognize tho. They gonna get to tha point where the West aint on they back no more, and they really gonna be hurtin. If they homestate stop supportin em...then what are u left wit? Doggy Fizzle Telefizzle?! lol. Cmon. Im tired of alotta these muhafuckaz. Im all kali about mah shit, but i like tha way tha East been thinkin, and thas..."if it aint us, Fuck it". Our radio stations, rapperz, everything...should git that mentality. If NY wanna give tha West sum airtime...then we give them airtime. If not, then we shouldnt play they shit eitha. But these stations out hea aint got tha balls tah do dat shit. Itz a shame...

Word man. real talk rite here...i'm not sure why the westcoast radio stations are playing more eastcoast shit then their own stuff...how long has this bullshit been goin on now?... *shakes head*....man i wish there was some new radio station that only supports westcoast stuff so some of these artists could get some exposure that they deserve..cuz they puttin too much work out here and ain't gettin shit from it...
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: The Watcher on September 12, 2003, 01:36:35 AM
 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

if dre or snoop hasnt approached them about workin with them yet, chances are they ain't gonna. Dre & Snoop have blown enough people up, people need to do shit on their own without cryin because somebody wont get down with them

you don't see cats in the east cryin cause primo didnt give them a beat or method man won't get down & drop a verse for them
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: You Ain't Shit on September 12, 2003, 03:14:55 AM
them some mutha fuCCin hataz
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: budsmokeronly on September 12, 2003, 05:34:18 AM
I feel Bo and Yuk 100% and I been sayin the same shit for a long fucking time.  I ain't even gonna hardly argue it anymore cause wcc is full of snoop dickryders that would fucking die for him.  Take the last 50 snoop songs.  How many have other artists on them?  Out of those with other artists, how many are westcoast artists?  and out of those westcoast artists, how many are non-dpg affiliates?  My point exactly.  but most of yall won't understand it cause your on snoop and dpg's nuts like fly's on shit.  Snoop sold out, plain and simple.  He only works with the artists who he will make the most money off of.  To the people talking about Pac putting Bo and Dru and them on his albums.  Damn str8, Pac did that cause they his homeboys, and they are westcoast.  Money wasn't no thang, Pac collaborated wit niggas cause they were real and they were about rappin about the real.  snoop ain't like that at all anymore.  He reps Crip to the fullest in one song, and the next he is collaberating with lil bow wow.  If your such the gangbangin thug snoop, why don't you do a song wit c-bo?  Because anyone in their right mind knows that a lil bow wow/snoop song is going to get way more recognition than a c-bo/snoop song.  Of course I know snoop gets paid hella for his guest spots, but he is already rich as fuck.  He is always talking bout real niggas and niggas goin hollywood.  practice what you preach snoop, 90% of the rappers you collab wit are hollywood as fuck.  like they sayin if snoop really wanted to help out the westcoast he should be fuckin wit em.  snoop has done 100's of guest appearances.  how many with c-bo?  ZERO.  How many with the gangsta ass neptunes?  How bout the thug life lil mo?  or that gangbangin asian lady?  cripped out lil bow wow and snoop gonna run the gangsta scene huh?  I totally understand snoop is gettin his paper.  but don't be actin all gangsta like you bringin back the westcoast and keepin it real, when you collab with the eastcoast more than the westcoast, yet claim westcoast to the fullest.  Tray deee and Goldie Loc know whats up, thank god, I would hate to see their new record destroyed thanks to snoop.
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: k-dogg on September 12, 2003, 07:34:34 AM
I'm from the east coast but prefer west coast.  Let me say that attitudes like C-Bo and Yukmouth are the reason the west has fallen.  One reason I repect Dre so much is that back when all the Bad Boy/Deathrow Eastcoast/Westcoast shit was really hot, Dre was the main rapper who refused to get caught up and pigeonholed in that stupid shit and worked with eastcoast artists anyway. I don't think alot of you realize how much balls that took and how gangsta that was because he chose to be different than the rest and to this day, still takes alot of shit for it.  He did not abandon the west, he just chose not to be pigeonholed like the rest of the west rappers are now.  Look at them crying now like a bunch of babies. I thought they were real niggas.  Stop crying and make it happen.   :'( :'(      
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: Don Seer on September 12, 2003, 07:39:02 AM
^ True

Go listen to shit from that era like, Nas Is Coming, or East Coast / West Coast Killaz... Dre's message back then (he expressed it well on King T's album too), and I guess its still the same now is simply "fuck where ya from, lets make money".


Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: Lord Funk on September 12, 2003, 07:52:31 AM
Another thing is ... and I don't want to sound like a nagging parent here, but... C-Bo should feel fucking lucky at the status he has. The guy is without question an underground legend, with a loyal fanbase that will stick with him after the fans turned onto Dre through Eminem have left him. Someone should tell him to stop moaning about he wants and focus on what he's got.

Honestly, I respect C-Bo and Yuk; both are great artists. But I'm geting angrier and angrier reading people agreeing with their bitching. To me, both of those quotes are just hating on Dre and Snoop, and I can't see how it can be argued otherwise.



Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: k-dogg on September 12, 2003, 08:15:49 AM
Thank you Overseer and Lord Funk.  Let's put this one to rest.  I'm also glad that Snoop was able to get away from Deathrow. While some of his music was horrible at No LImit, I think it gave him a chance to work with whoever he wanted no matter where they were from. If he had stayed at DR, he would be crying like the rest of them.  I really feel bad for some of those brothers. It's just that they made choices years ago and it's biting their ass now.  LIke someone said earlier, its the radio stations they should really be mad with.  Let this be a lesson to all of you younger cat's out there.  DON'T LOCK YOURSELF INTO A BOX OR LIMIT YOURSELF TO WHERE YOU CAN GO OR WHO YOU CAN WORK WITH.  It will haunt you later.    
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on September 12, 2003, 10:02:59 AM
So lemme get this straight....Y'all are tellin me Dre gets props for workin wit all these East Coast artists and gets alot of Dre/West Coast fans interested in them....Helps them blow up basically....Great, but when is he going 2 collab wit some real West Coast cats? or better yet, when is he goin 2 search for West Coast talent to put out there? With all da power he has, he could most certainly make a change.....

Now think about this.....When waz tha last time East Coast heads came out here and helped us blow? I mean U have people like E-40 goin out there buyin Fabolous verses.....Since it's Fabolous it gets airplay.....BUT tha reason why 40 waz dissin East Coast radio waz because he waz in NY and they played his song but ONLY THA FAB VERSE......wat kinda shit is that? This is a song from E-40's album......East Coast stick with eachother & make huge movements 2gether in all aspects of tha game, dat is why they on top, they laugh at tha West Coast & use em every chance they get......

Y'all just don't get it......U sit there saying this East/West bullshit is gettin old......U sit there tellin people that they are in a box and they are limited in their way of thinking......But really, it's yall that aint thinkin deep enough about tha issue.....y'all think that people like YUK is dissin Dre JUST BECUASE he's working wit East Coast artists.....lol, it aint even like that......It's tha politics that goes with it......If U don't understand this after all this reading, then I guess U never will unless U out here seeing what's happenin in person instead of reading about it on a message board......











Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: BIGGBOYY2002 on September 12, 2003, 10:27:00 AM
You niggas are funny. Anybody remember Doggystyle all stars, Snoop and 4life or Snoop and Brother Lynch Hung, or Dre and 40 Glock. Get a life!!!
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: PLANT on September 12, 2003, 10:30:02 AM
So lemme get this straight....Y'all are tellin me Dre gets props for workin wit all these East Coast artists and gets alot of Dre/West Coast fans interested in them....Helps them blow up basically....Great, but when is he going 2 collab wit some real West Coast cats? or better yet, when is he goin 2 search for West Coast talent to put out there? With all da power he has, he could most certainly make a change.....

Now think about this.....When waz tha last time East Coast heads came out here and helped us blow? I mean U have people like E-40 goin out there buyin Fabolous verses.....Since it's Fabolous it gets airplay.....BUT tha reason why 40 waz dissin East Coast radio waz because he waz in NY and they played his song but ONLY THA FAB VERSE......wat kinda shit is that? This is a song from E-40's album......East Coast stick with eachother & make huge movements 2gether in all aspects of tha game, dat is why they on top, they laugh at tha West Coast & use em every chance they get......

Y'all just don't get it......U sit there saying this East/West bullshit is gettin old......U sit there tellin people that they are in a box and they are limited in their way of thinking......But really, it's yall that aint thinkin deep enough about tha issue.....y'all think that people like YUK is dissin Dre JUST BECUASE he's working wit East Coast artists.....lol, it aint even like that......It's tha politics that goes with it......If U don't understand this after all this reading, then I guess U never will unless U out here seeing what's happenin in person instead of reading about it on a message board......

Maybe you are jealous too because as a westcoast rapper, you didnt get "put on" by Dre and Snoop  ???

And I dont understand what your talking about "Unless you're out here seeing whats happening"  ::)........What the hell do you see happening?  Did you see Yukmouth and CBO personally make those quotes..... Um No, u didnt....You read them from this message board just like th rest of us.....

Thats bullshit man.  

What I do see is that Snoop has put at least 10 WESTCOAST artists in the game and Dre has also done the same.......Who the fuck has Yukmouth and CBO "put on" or put into the game?  They should stop whining and do their own things instead of trying to hop on someone elses nuts....
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on September 12, 2003, 10:45:27 AM
lol....wtf, jesus....fuck it....no matter how much I keep saying it, looks like U won't get it....


I just don't get why tha Unity is gone....Money is da easy answer, but what if U already have tha money? U have a chance 2 make movement....Don't U dare say U bringin da West back when U in NY recording yur whole album....
East Coast is runnin everything rite now because of tha fact that we let them to....there's no challenge for them because tha biggest names here is on they side....THEY DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT US....bottom line....but muthafucaz still sidin....just look @ tha Aftermath roster....enuff said....




Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: js83 on September 12, 2003, 10:57:30 AM
man only if pac was alive today..the west won't be going through this bullshit...
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: platinumk777 on September 12, 2003, 11:26:32 AM
I couldn't disagree more.

All C-Bo and Yuk are doing is blaming two other men for their lack of commercial success - that's the bitch move IMO.

Don't go blaming the next man for making his moves the way he sees fit - if it doesn't benefit you then you better work double hard to make your own way.

And lol at C-Bo: dude got a guest spot on All Eyez On Me - if that ain't a good enough opportunity to blow yourself up mate, you best start re-thinking your strategy.

Excellent
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: TRu Word on September 12, 2003, 11:51:15 AM
I see what there gettin at as far as spreadin love.  but if they want to work with them so bad then reach out.  Snoop has done many songs wit bay cats 40, short, kink da sneak.  It seems like C-Bo feels dre should call him and say " yo C-Bo will you let me produce for you album please"  come on man be real.  Dont complain if you aint doin nothing on your side.  I could see if Dre & Snoop were not returning there calls or gave a cold shoulder at when they met, but to just say "We havent work together they must be scared of me" is kinda stupid.  As far as the too short and 40 thing goes Too Short has done a lot of East Coast shit He done shit wit Puffy,Biggie, Jay-Z etc. so dont just say its Dre & Snoop.
As far as 40 goes a lotta peeps on the east just dont feel  him, I guess they dont feel all that makin up your own words and stuff like that.  as far as yuk and C-Bo they honestly just dont have a mainstream apeal.  Every rapper doesnt have it guys Im sorry.  No matter how good or commercial your songs are.
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: TRu Word on September 12, 2003, 12:06:36 PM
And btw Fuck Yuk  This fag talking about Unity and he lettin Kurupt Diss Snoop on his song, He talkin about Unity and He diss the Homie Fats Bossi After he fucked Fats out of some money.  And why the fuck would Snoop call his ass to do a song when he called snoop stupid for fuckin with Master P ( eventhough I agree) Yuk should have just kept it to himself and now he thinks snoop should show him love, what a bitch fuck that bitch
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: Z the laidback Virus on September 12, 2003, 12:21:09 PM
I couldn't disagree more.

All C-Bo and Yuk are doing is blaming two other men for their lack of commercial success - that's the bitch move IMO.

Don't go blaming the next man for making his moves the way he sees fit - if it doesn't benefit you then you better work double hard to make your own way.

And lol at C-Bo: dude got a guest spot on All Eyez On Me - if that ain't a good enough opportunity to blow yourself up mate, you best start re-thinking your strategy.

Excellent

Word........One Virus agrees with the other....now that's unity,Yuk!! ;D ;)
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: 2pac619 on September 12, 2003, 12:52:47 PM
FREE RAS KASS!!!
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: PLANT on September 12, 2003, 12:54:32 PM
FREE RAS KASS!!!
LOL
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: Adam Donnelly on September 12, 2003, 01:07:53 PM
man only if pac was alive today..the west won't be going through this bullshit...

Word
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: Code Blue on September 12, 2003, 01:23:10 PM
Y'all (Rodzilla especially) needta quit ya bitchin'. The sad truth is that if you from the West, the only way you gonna blow up is workin' with Dre or Snoop. And c'mon...them niggaz can't work with every single damn dude from the West. That's impossible. Dre and Snoop wanna make they paper too. The minds of he East Coast "cats" will never be changed. Let's just kicc bacc and enjoy the music the West is puttin' out.
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: BIGGBOYY2002 on September 12, 2003, 02:32:03 PM
You niggas are funny. Anybody remember Doggystyle all stars, Snoop and 4life or Snoop and Brother Lynch Hung, or Dre and 40 Glock. Get a life!!!
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: Lord Funk on September 12, 2003, 04:11:38 PM
I see what there gettin at as far as spreadin love.  but if they want to work with them so bad then reach out.  Snoop has done many songs wit bay cats 40, short, kink da sneak.  It seems like C-Bo feels dre should call him and say " yo C-Bo will you let me produce for you album please"  come on man be real.  Dont complain if you aint doin nothing on your side.  I could see if Dre & Snoop were not returning there calls or gave a cold shoulder at when they met, but to just say "We havent work together they must be scared of me" is kinda stupid.  As far as the too short and 40 thing goes Too Short has done a lot of East Coast shit He done shit wit Puffy,Biggie, Jay-Z etc. so dont just say its Dre & Snoop.
As far as 40 goes a lotta peeps on the east just dont feel  him, I guess they dont feel all that makin up your own words and stuff like that.  as far as yuk and C-Bo they honestly just dont have a mainstream apeal.  Every rapper doesnt have it guys Im sorry.  No matter how good or commercial your songs are.

All true, all real.

Rodzilla man - don't stress it 'cause people disagree with you. Ain't no need for this melodramatic "lol....wtf, jesus....fuck it....no matter how much I keep saying it, looks like U won't get it...." spoiled-kid-shit - if you ain't articulating yourself clearly, don't insult other people who can't follow your argument. I can see where you're coming from, but there's a point where siding against Dre and Snoop so passionately becomes as sad as dickriding them. As for "don't u dare say u bringing da West back": I never heard Snoop or Dre make that claim in the past 12 months, unless I missed somethng, in which case I give you your props.

And it ain't like Snoop has by-passed underrated West Coast cats in favour of underrated East Coast cats. PTCTBTB had Soopafly, Warren, Nate and Goldie, as well as Jay-Z, Neptunes, Reggie and Premier.

The defining link wasn't their being known or unknown, it was their ability to do what they do well and with pride. Sorry Yuk, maybe you don;t make that grade in any of those parties' books :P


Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: platinumk777 on September 12, 2003, 04:16:27 PM
I couldn't disagree more.

All C-Bo and Yuk are doing is blaming two other men for their lack of commercial success - that's the bitch move IMO.

Don't go blaming the next man for making his moves the way he sees fit - if it doesn't benefit you then you better work double hard to make your own way.

And lol at C-Bo: dude got a guest spot on All Eyez On Me - if that ain't a good enough opportunity to blow yourself up mate, you best start re-thinking your strategy.

Excellent

Word........One Virus agrees with the other....now that's unity,Yuk!! ;D ;)

LOL, hell yeah!
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: PLANT on September 12, 2003, 04:32:48 PM

And it ain't like Snoop has by-passed underrated West Coast cats in favour of underrated East Coast cats. PTCTBTB had Soopafly, Warren, Nate and Goldie, as well as Jay-Z, Neptunes, Reggie and Premier.







Lord Funk is on Point.

Lets looks at it this way....Paid that cost has the follwing westcoast acts on it...

Soopafly
Warren G
Nate Dogg
Kokane
RBX
Lady of Rage
E White
Goldie Loc

That (if im correct) is more westcoast features than on Yukmouths "Godzilla"......Plus Doggystyle Allstars had a large grip of westcoast acts aswell.....
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on September 12, 2003, 04:48:57 PM
Soopafly, Warren, Nate and Goldie, as well as Jay-Z, Neptunes, Reggie

All established artists that have been around for many moons...

lol @ spoiled kid shit...yea yea...I said what I had 2 say, lookin more deeply into it rather than goin krayzie on me with all this "why should snoop work wit yuk" bullshit, forget Yuk, it aint even about Yuk, he's just an example here because he spoke out, Dre & Snoop is also just an example because they were mentioned...But...BOTTOM LINE is that I don't see Dre or Snoop doin much 4 tha West which is very disappointing cuzz they have tha most money and have tha 75 year old doods in tha majors backin em up...

If tha East can bring eachother up, why can't we? Why are we stuck like this? Why is tha East controlling us? Why is it that majors don't see talent in tha west when there's a SEA of talent hungrier than anybody lookin 4 a chance...Why is it people like Dre who have tha chance to make a difference have artists on their label named "Brooklyn"? Do U think we would ever see tha day where Def Jam will release a dood named "Frisco"? HELL NAH, they have pride, they aint gonna let a muthafuca come out and NOT rep their turf AND make money for it...We all saw wat happened 2 Jayo Felony, Warren G etc, Def Jam tried 2 get some West Coast credibility wit that shit, but did they put money like they should have behind tha West Coast artists that waz on they label? Would they ever? HELL NAH, know why? cuzz they figure 'fuck tha credibility, we sellin just as much in da west, we ruling this bitch.'
Why is it that tha East Coast looks down on us? I talk 2 East Coast cats and they tellin me shit like mann, Y'all cats is weak, all this gangsta nonsense wit no lyrics...East shits on yall all day (true story, I put that on everything)...and then I show em a track from some of my affiliates 4 tha fuck of it and they like WTF WOAH, dat shit waz sicc, these cats really from da west? HELL YEA MUTHAFUCA...U know why these East Coast fans aint knowing? cuzz no one's gettin recognized, we are not united out here therefore we get pushed back till we our time runs out...muthafucaz look at cats like Daz Dillinger (1 of da weakest rappers ever) and they think that is what tha West is about...I'm tellin U, shit seems exagerrated, but believe me, I've come 2 realize that's how simple shit really gets down to...

There's me articulating myself Mr. Funk, but ofcourse, there's no way 2 win on a Snoop/Dre board...

R.I.P 2PAC




Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: Don Seer on September 12, 2003, 04:56:34 PM
Yeah that skillz/superiority thing is kinda true... a grip of people who call themselves hiphop fans dont even know Dilated or P.U.T.S. is West Coast.. coz they aint on that gangsta tip.. ya know? Shits so diverse :)


ohh.. but I still feel its dead wrong to be blaiming Dre+Snoop for not helping... read back a grip of people have already been listed that they've tried to help.. they gotta make money of their shit, to fund their pet projects.

Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on September 12, 2003, 05:00:15 PM
It's way more diverse that people think...Dilated and all them cats aside...There's HARD ASS cats out here with REAL lyrical ability...but what are we known for? DPGC commercial gangstas because we have NO unity...FUCK DA BULLSHIT...





Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: Don Seer on September 12, 2003, 05:02:37 PM
u cant have unity when theres groups/labels out there playing divide/conquer and running with that ride with us/collide with us shit.. thats what kills unity.
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on September 12, 2003, 05:11:28 PM
Ride with US...please!

All we have is US.

Life isn't all about money, if U a real muthafuca and have been thru tha struggle, U would know when 2 help & give back...This is why Pac is missed so much, he waz tha man for that shit...
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: Duckman on September 12, 2003, 05:19:54 PM
Yukmouth is a wack ass bitch i glad dre dont work with him.. Dre should produce for Crooked I
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: Cold187um on September 12, 2003, 05:24:38 PM
i 100 % agree with yuk and with most parts C-Bo said even though he was talkin in a more emotional way :)

and RODZILLA makes sense, but thats just me i guess
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: Duckman on September 12, 2003, 05:24:51 PM
AND FUCK DJ Quik THAT BITCH ASS NIGGA HE IS THE REAL WESTCOAST HATER HE DONT WANT TO PRODUCE FOR CROOKED I I'M GLAD HE GOT HIS ASS BEAT AT THE SOURCE AWARDS
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: k-dogg on September 12, 2003, 06:03:23 PM
Alright...I'm about to piss alot of you off right now but it needs to be said.  TUPAC IS DEAD.  His own mother recently said that we should let him rest in peace. If the real issue is UNITY, then let me see.....You've got Tupac dissing  (along with Suge he started this whole Dre is gay bullshit) arguably the greatest hip hop producer of all time who just happens to be from the Westcoast just because he chose not to be on DR anymore.  Think about how stupid this shit is...He don't want to work with us anymore,  so he is gay...That's when Dre started to work with anyone he wanted to because alot of you bought into that stupid shit.  Here is a man who put the west on the map twice (Ruthless, Deathrow) and now he is to this day hated on his own coast because he just wanted to make good music. A lot of you keep hollering about Tupac and even Easy E. DON'T GET IT TWISTED.  Dre put the Westcoast on and continues to do so (Aftermath).  Just not in the way tha C-B0, Yuk, and Rodzilla want him to.   Instead of hollering about what C-Bo and Yuk said, you should be outraged that The Source is trying to bring a successful Westcoast rap label down.  THAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH THE WEST.  Support your main man.  It really is not that complicated Rodzilla.  Believe it or not, I understand the point you are trying to make.  It's just way off base...Holler at the radio stations not Dre and Snoop.  
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: budsmokeronly on September 13, 2003, 03:08:33 AM
Rod u know whats up, and so  do Bo and Yuk.  Don't matter tho, money makes the world go round.  we seeen the best era in music ever and there is no rappers gonna top it.  the difference between snoop and Bo and Yuk is snoop will do whatever as long as the money is right.  I have lost mad respect towards wcc in the last few months since I really known whats  up with ya'll view on music and snoop.  Wait, snoop and that chinese chick is way better than snoop and c-bo.  or snoop and neptunes bang way harder than snoop and Bo.  Wait most of wcc wouldn't know cause you got snoops dick up in your ears.  No doubt snoop has dropped better material than c-bo, but one thing is for sure, Bo-loc keeps it real and drops consistent music.  I can't say the same for snoop.  (although most of yall fools can.)
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: Cold187um on September 13, 2003, 03:38:23 AM
^^real talk
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: .:DayGoStyLz:. on September 13, 2003, 09:04:52 AM
Rod dont sweat it foo. U got too many people on hea discussin how a westcoast muhafucka should think, and neva even stepped foot in Kali lol. They dont git it. All we sayin is, the reason tha East is sellin so many albums now..is because they STUCK TO THEY OWN. They didnt go help out anyone else. They hated, and hated, and hated. From they rappers, to they record stores, to they radio stations. "No name rappers" out there, were able to come up...because their radio stations allowed it. Out here, our stations dont hate on tha East....and play they shit, as well as ours. Then u got tha 2 biggest names out tha west...sellin out, ratha then do like tha East did...and "stick to they own". And like i said, if u lived out here....ud see tha respect their losin out here. Particularly Snoop. He all but dead in SD. If they lose Kali's respect...their done.
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on September 13, 2003, 10:41:57 AM
Also, It is NOT just tha East, it's tha South also...They stick to they own like krayzie...Mannn, Paul Wall & Chamillionaire who are basically unheard of out in Cali have gone gold in they OWN area...wat tha fuc does that tell U? I repeat it is not just about Snoop & Dre, they are used as an example here because of tha fact that they have tha most power...

And I gives a fuck if them old white folks at interscope won't let Dre do shit...how much of a lil bitch can U be? Pac waz wit Interscope and he didn't let no one pimp his ass and tell him wat 2 do...



Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: eS El Duque on September 13, 2003, 11:07:10 AM
Soopafly, Warren, Nate and Goldie, as well as Jay-Z, Neptunes, Reggie

If tha East can bring eachother up, why can't we?




yea..but look at what the east has brought up...Young Gunz  ;D...Dipshits..and those other guys...lmao
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: Lil Jay on September 13, 2003, 11:14:50 AM
Here is what Tru Blu posted on the dpgc2g forum...its kinda related to this topic and it pretty much sums it up IMO.

"Every artist that Snoop has brought out is from Long Beach so what are you talking about. Tray Deee, Swoop-G, Lil C-Style, Techniec, Bad Azz, So Sentrelle, Goldie Loc, Kola, Coniyac, E-White, and Soopafly all got their starts featured on Snoop songs. He works w/ people that most people forgot about. He put Chan, Lil Half Dead, and Battlecat back in the game. He's helped Butch Cassidy. He helped Xzibit get big. He had Kokane featured all over Tha Last Meal and Duces 'N Trayz. He had Suga Free featured on 2 of his solo albums, both Eastsidaz albums, and Bad Azz and Doggy's Angels albums.

Snoop has done a lot for his coast. He's done more for the West than a lot of you guys favorite artists here like Yukmouth and C-Bo."
   


When youre famous & successful some people will always hate on you no matter what you do.
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: PLANT on September 13, 2003, 11:26:50 AM
Here is what Tru Blu posted on the dpgc2g forum...its kinda related to this topic and it pretty much sums it up IMO.

"Every artist that Snoop has brought out is from Long Beach so what are you talking about. Tray Deee, Swoop-G, Lil C-Style, Techniec, Bad Azz, So Sentrelle, Goldie Loc, Kola, Coniyac, E-White, and Soopafly all got their starts featured on Snoop songs. He works w/ people that most people forgot about. He put Chan, Lil Half Dead, and Battlecat back in the game. He's helped Butch Cassidy. He helped Xzibit get big. He had Kokane featured all over Tha Last Meal and Duces 'N Trayz. He had Suga Free featured on 2 of his solo albums, both Eastsidaz albums, and Bad Azz and Doggy's Angels albums.

Snoop has done a lot for his coast. He's done more for the West than a lot of you guys favorite artists here like Yukmouth and C-Bo."
   


When youre famous & successful some people will always hate on you no matter what you do.

"Preach!'
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: Don Seer on September 13, 2003, 11:41:06 AM
grundy sorry.. I find your argument hilarious.

what youre basically saying is that a song with c-bo is better than a song with the neptunes.. just because c-bo is from the west..

truth be told.. if the neptunes tossed c-bo a tight beat u'd be dissing him for selling out, instead of trying to come up.

a good song is a good song, a wack song is a wack song, and thats that. people should be able to work with whoever the hell they want. divisions do no favours, and of course everybody should look out for they own if they can.. but not at the expense of they selves!.. thats why snoop aint even on his own label, but he tries to put stuff out on it through what he's made from the 'snoop dogg franchise' thats basically what he's doin right now, he's sold out to get himself a bigger more secure footing in the game later on.

if jay-z or nas swooped through and tried to work with rodzilla your saying he should turn em down? :)
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: Z the laidback Virus on September 13, 2003, 11:45:36 AM
Here is what Tru Blu posted on the dpgc2g forum...its kinda related to this topic and it pretty much sums it up IMO.

"Every artist that Snoop has brought out is from Long Beach so what are you talking about. Tray Deee, Swoop-G, Lil C-Style, Techniec, Bad Azz, So Sentrelle, Goldie Loc, Kola, Coniyac, E-White, and Soopafly all got their starts featured on Snoop songs. He works w/ people that most people forgot about. He put Chan, Lil Half Dead, and Battlecat back in the game. He's helped Butch Cassidy. He helped Xzibit get big. He had Kokane featured all over Tha Last Meal and Duces 'N Trayz. He had Suga Free featured on 2 of his solo albums, both Eastsidaz albums, and Bad Azz and Doggy's Angels albums.

Snoop has done a lot for his coast. He's done more for the West than a lot of you guys favorite artists here like Yukmouth and C-Bo."
   


When youre famous & successful some people will always hate on you no matter what you do.

"Preach!'

Word,Snoop has done a lot for the westcoast. Or doesn't that count as the people mentioned are from the DPGC camp?
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: budsmokeronly on September 13, 2003, 11:59:48 AM
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truth be told.. if the neptunes tossed c-bo a tight beat u'd be dissing him for selling out, instead of trying to come up.

your damn str8 I would.  I think any rapper who claims to be gangsta and then does a beat with the neptunes is a sellout.  Gangsta rappers always diss "soft niggaz" or "fake gangstas" or they claim to be so hard and don't hang with no bustas.  how many times has snoop talked shit about rappers goin hollywood?

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what youre basically saying is that a song with c-bo is better than a song with the neptunes.. just because c-bo is from the west..

No I am not.  I am saying I would like a collabo from snoop and Bo much more than a neptunes/snoop collabo.  I speak for myself only on this forum.  Hell I could care less if this entire forum likes snoop collabing with the neptunes, I hate it.  I am just speaking my mind and my opinion.  and imo a lot of snoop songs are ruined due to the person snoop is working with.  I hate the neptunes, I hate lil bow wow, I hate missy, I hate ludacris, I hate lil kim.  imo snoop does not make make good  music with these people.  whatever, its an endless debate.  I hate snoop and the neptunes, some of u guys like it.  we will never see eye to eye on this topic.  

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if jay-z or nas swooped through and tried to work with rodzilla your saying he should turn em down?  
see thats what u guys don't understand.  how many albums has rod put out?  how popular is rod?  how many millions of dollars does rod have?  snoop is rich as fuck, he is not hurting for money or fame.  if rod collabed with nas or jay z than that would gain rod some much needed recognition.  snoop doesn't gain anymore recognition really, he already is recognized.  everyone who listens to nas and jay z already know who snoop is.
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: PLANT on September 13, 2003, 12:07:57 PM
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truth be told.. if the neptunes tossed c-bo a tight beat u'd be dissing him for selling out, instead of trying to come up.

your damn str8 I would.  I think any rapper who claims to be gangsta and then does a beat with the neptunes is a sellout.  

^^ I think thats the dumbest thing Ive ever heard LOL ^^
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: Jim Jones on September 13, 2003, 02:00:21 PM
Soopafly, Warren, Nate and Goldie, as well as Jay-Z, Neptunes, Reggie

All established artists that have been around for many moons...

lol @ spoiled kid shit...yea yea...I said what I had 2 say, lookin more deeply into it rather than goin krayzie on me with all this "why should snoop work wit yuk" bullshit, forget Yuk, it aint even about Yuk, he's just an example here because he spoke out, Dre & Snoop is also just an example because they were mentioned...But...BOTTOM LINE is that I don't see Dre or Snoop doin much 4 tha West which is very disappointing cuzz they have tha most money and have tha 75 year old doods in tha majors backin em up...

If tha East can bring eachother up, why can't we? Why are we stuck like this? Why is tha East controlling us? Why is it that majors don't see talent in tha west when there's a SEA of talent hungrier than anybody lookin 4 a chance...Why is it people like Dre who have tha chance to make a difference have artists on their label named "Brooklyn"? Do U think we would ever see tha day where Def Jam will release a dood named "Frisco"? HELL NAH, they have pride, they aint gonna let a muthafuca come out and NOT rep their turf AND make money for it...We all saw wat happened 2 Jayo Felony, Warren G etc, Def Jam tried 2 get some West Coast credibility wit that shit, but did they put money like they should have behind tha West Coast artists that waz on they label? Would they ever? HELL NAH, know why? cuzz they figure 'fuck tha credibility, we sellin just as much in da west, we ruling this bitch.'
Why is it that tha East Coast looks down on us? I talk 2 East Coast cats and they tellin me shit like mann, Y'all cats is weak, all this gangsta nonsense wit no lyrics...East shits on yall all day (true story, I put that on everything)...and then I show em a track from some of my affiliates 4 tha fuck of it and they like WTF WOAH, dat shit waz sicc, these cats really from da west? HELL YEA MUTHAFUCA...U know why these East Coast fans aint knowing? cuzz no one's gettin recognized, we are not united out here therefore we get pushed back till we our time runs out...muthafucaz look at cats like Daz Dillinger (1 of da weakest rappers ever) and they think that is what tha West is about...I'm tellin U, shit seems exagerrated, but believe me, I've come 2 realize that's how simple shit really gets down to...

There's me articulating myself Mr. Funk, but ofcourse, there's no way 2 win on a Snoop/Dre board...

R.I.P 2PAC







I agree wit you. Pretty much the eastcoast laughs at us all the time. Alot of these UK and Europian cats might not know if cuz they aint over here but the east really dont give a shit about the westcoast. Right now they riding the Dirty South's dick. they aint giving a damn what the west coast has to offer. Besides Snoop & Dre they think the westcoast is dead and we have no rappers wit lyrics.... EA Ski "Manuscript" is one of the westcoast realist songs i've heard cuz what he says on that song is 100% true.  E-40 getting his verse cut off on the radio in  NY is a slap in the face. Its his fuckin song and they aint even playin his verse.  I like the Bay but it aint snoops or dres job to put them on the map. They need to come up.  All tho i do agree, they should work wit them but u cant blame them for there commercial failure. DRe should stop suckin NY's dick and put some new fresh Westcoast rappers on.

Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: D.R.E.-Dogg on September 13, 2003, 04:50:52 PM
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and wtf is bo talkin about they scared of working with em cuz they real niggas..? LoL that's nearly as funny as tha row callin their shit "too gangsta 4 the radio" cuz they know there will be no air plaay for their shit at all

WAT THA FUCK? LMAOO.....Apparently U dunno nuthin about West Coast Mafia heads mayne.....lol, they will destroy Death Row or any of them Pirus out there if they got in they way.....Y'all just dunno this shit because U aint seen shit about em on TV or haven't seen no lil Death Row type of documentaries or magazine features about them lol.....nahmsayin?

And if U aint heard GODZILLA, then U shouldn't be talkin.....I mean if U feelin 50 there's no reason not to feel YUK.....most of his songs on this album are hard shit turned commercial just like 50.....except 4 tha fact that YUK is a way better lyricist.....

But no hate against 50, I feel 50.....Fuck da bullshit, I'm just tryin 2 make y'all realize what these muthafucaz talkin bout.....Ain't even about YUK or BO.....It's about EVERYTHING, EVERYONE dats puttin it down out here.....They won't let us climb tha hill.....


tell me one thing son.. wtf are u talkin about..?

are u able to read + understand a post properly?

if u think u know more about the west coast than me cuz u live there all i can say is bitch pleeez..

I never said Yuk and Bo are no G's and I never dropped a single word about pirus and Death Row is a joke

and I'm a fan of both Yuk's and Bo's music and I know their albums so wtf are u talkin about when u don't even know shit?
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: .:DayGoStyLz:. on September 13, 2003, 11:26:59 PM
This has nuthin to do with hate. Everytime someone calls out anyone famous, for tha shit they doin wrong...people call it hate. That aint hate, its payin attention. Nobody is mad at Snoops success. That aint even tha issue. So anyone preachin that "hate" is tha prollem, doesnt understand it. Its bigger then jus Snoop and Dre. Theyre just part OF it. If what they are doin is so great, can u explain why they continue to lose respect out here? Their street credility is SHOT. Dre's has been shot for years, and Snoops is basically a joke now lol. Like i said, if u dont even get respect in your OWN part of the World...then what have u really accomplished?

Like i said, this goes all the way to the radio stations, magazines...everything. If Snoop and Dre wanna hop off thiz westcoast shit..let em. They can be examples lata. But tha radio stations out here dont support SHIT. Yah u hear sum local shit, but everytime u turn on tha radio...u also hear 50 cent or sum otha NY bullshit. They dont play ours...why do we play theirs? Thats tha question. Itz like muhafuckaz aint even proud tah be from tha West anymore. They jus scream it, cus its popular to say. Fuk that, n fuk them too lol. U got too many bandwagon muhafuckas who jus stick to whats popular. "If it aint on MTV, then it aint for ME..." aint dat righ? lol Jokez...
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: budsmokeronly on September 14, 2003, 01:07:58 AM
I'm glad people like rodzilla and tone can actually understand what is going on.  wow, I agree 100% with your posts and I feel ya.  u 2 are the most sensible to post in this thread.

I don't hate snoop at all.  He is one of my fav rappers and I totally respect him.  doggystyle is my fav album ever.  but snoop does a lot of shitty songs too.  In no way am I ever hating on snoop dogg.  

the whole point of this thread summed up:  I ain't mad at snoop for collabing w/ neptunes or 50 cent or whoever.  neither is yuk or bo.  but yuk and bo are established rap artists.  they have done a lot for rap.  and they live what, a few hours away from snoop.  same state.  yet snoop will go over to the eastcoast or have some eastcoast peeps come to la to record.  he has done one song on a soundtrack w/ yuk and never done a song w/ bo.  no hate, but snoop will do a song nowadays w/ a new artists that sucks and is unknown.  he always claims wc and that shit.   hook up with the wc, snoop, outside of the lbc.
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: Bigkhrisdogg on September 14, 2003, 01:34:36 AM
Could it be that Snoop doesn't like Yuk. Think about it Yuk constantly disses Snoop's homie, Master P. Yuk is on Rap-A-Lot, which runs with Murder INC &  Death Row. Why bring a potential spy in ya circle?
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: Code Blue on September 14, 2003, 02:41:07 AM
Maybe Yuk and Bo are part of those "crumbs" that Snoop alwayz refers to. I forgot about Yuk dissin' P, who's a homy of Snoop's. Yuk also has ties with Fatal, who rides with Murder INC, and Tha Realest, who did that tracc called "Fuck Dre". Man...all this bullshit needs to come to an end. Real shit.
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: Gangsta_T on September 14, 2003, 03:59:30 AM
.but what are we known for? DPGC commercial gangstas because we have NO unity...FUCK DA BULLSHIT...




thats right fool
you said it best yourself...you have NO UNITY !
you reppin da " NEW BAY "
which is just a bunch of bullshit rappers, destroyin the game for the real bay rappers..

plus, since you a die hard bay repper :
especially YOU hatin on anything LA is puttin out, no matter if it's underground shit, from artists you never heard of, to independent releases from daz or someone else, to the major releases by snoop !

you hatin em all, if it ain't from the bay it sucks, even if it's from the westcoast !

start thinkin bout that, before you ask yourself in here, why the eastcoast sticks together ! and why it aint happenin on the westcoast...

and like sicc wid it said : i dont give a fuck no more...
im just enjoyin the music my favorite artists are puttin out, no matter where they from and what label deal they got !
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: .:DayGoStyLz:. on September 14, 2003, 10:11:20 AM
.but what are we known for? DPGC commercial gangstas because we have NO unity...FUCK DA BULLSHIT...




thats right fool
you said it best yourself...you have NO UNITY !
you reppin da " NEW BAY "
which is just a bunch of bullshit rappers, destroyin the game for the real bay rappers..

plus, since you a die hard bay repper :
especially YOU hatin on anything LA is puttin out, no matter if it's underground shit, from artists you never heard of, to independent releases from daz or someone else, to the major releases by snoop !

you hatin em all, if it ain't from the bay it sucks, even if it's from the westcoast !

start thinkin bout that, before you ask yourself in here, why the eastcoast sticks together ! and why it aint happenin on the westcoast...

and like sicc wid it said : i dont give a fuck no more...
im just enjoyin the music my favorite artists are puttin out, no matter where they from and what label deal they got !

^^that aint true tho..Rod been givin a ganga respect tah artists comin out tha 619. Rememba, for the longest time LA has pretty much hated on a lotta shit outta tha Bay...and DEFINETELY hated on shit comin outta SD. Now, LA been puttin out sum bullshit lately. So he jus speakin tha truth righ now on that.

And for those talkin about Snoop might not like Yuk...that could be true. But, this is WAY bigger then Snoop and Yuk. Its WAY bigger then Snoop or Dre.
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on September 14, 2003, 12:14:16 PM
thats right fool
you said it best yourself...you have NO UNITY !
you reppin da " NEW BAY "
which is just a bunch of bullshit rappers, destroyin the game for the real bay rappers..

plus, since you a die hard bay repper :
especially YOU hatin on anything LA is puttin out, no matter if it's underground shit, from artists you never heard of, to independent releases from daz or someone else, to the major releases by snoop !

you hatin em all, if it ain't from the bay it sucks, even if it's from the westcoast !

start thinkin bout that, before you ask yourself in here, why the eastcoast sticks together ! and why it aint happenin on the westcoast...


Nope....see, there's where you're stereotyping me.....I luv all kinda West Coast music.....If U read what I said about DPG & looked into it a lil, U would know what I'm talkin about.....Believe it or not, we in da north bump & respect more south cali shit then they do 2 us.....I'm luvin tha whole San Diego scene rite now.....If we could collab wit any of em for tha right deal, it would be done in a heart beat.....I be talkin shit about how wack Daz is, but U know how hard we tried 2 get him on a song? because of da fact that we have unity, wack or not, but dood really is a crack head.....I dun even wanna get into tha story.....

And shut tha fuck up about shit U aint even knowin man.....I'm reppin tha new bay? tha new bay's concept got all ruined 2 months ago.....everyone out here had a whole different vision what tha new bay is about but then U have dumb ass cats throwing big ass concerts saying "NEW BAY" is performin.....and it waz only like 3 or 4 chosen acts.....and that waz like slap in da face 4 everybody.....

Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: Code Blue on September 14, 2003, 12:50:12 PM


and like sicc wid it said : i dont give a fuck no more...
im just enjoyin the music my favorite artists are puttin out, no matter where they from and what label deal they got !

Exactly. Even though I'd love to see other West Coast artists spittin' over a Dre beat, until that happens I'ma just enjoy whatever these niggas is puttin' out. Who the fucc cares if niether Dre or Snoop was on Godzilla? IMO that CD was bangin' all the way through. Y'all needta just chill.
Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on September 14, 2003, 07:29:31 PM
Who the fucc cares if niether Dre or Snoop was on Godzilla? IMO that CD was bangin' all the way through.


wow....lmao, after all this talk....and people come in here and make comments like that ^

It is bigger than that homie....







Title: Re:C-BO & YUKMOUTH speak on DRE & SNOOP
Post by: Gangsta_T on September 15, 2003, 03:06:20 AM
still yukmouths godzilla aint a classic westcoast release..
after bumpin the album for a few weeks now, only bout 8 or 9 tracks are really dope...

so please dont act like godzilla should sell major shit..
fo sho compared to 50 cents wack ass album it should sell 100 times more..