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Title: Mannn, over 100 billion dollars spent on war...4 WHAT???
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on September 23, 2003, 05:08:14 PM
Shit really gets 2 me sometimes...

America did not make no changes what so ever in Afghanastan or Iraq...U can come up wit everything U want, but truth is, they didn't do nothing but get what they wanted for their own advantage...

How can anyone explain over 100 billion dollars 2 go "help" Iraq and we can't get a fraction of that to help our own people in the USA?? I swear mann, I waz walkin around in Sunnydale district of San Francisco 2day and I waz bout 2 throw up...How can we let all these people live like this? ABSOLUTE TRASH...even out here in da Trench of tha city, there are so many bums makin it filthy 2 even be around, Friday and Saturday nights, it's like a warzone, muthafucaz goin krayzie...worse than ever...niggaz graduate, face tha real world and still don't calm down...
There is no jobs out here anymore. Rite now I am 11 applications deep, 2 months of lookin around. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. I call back and still NOTHING. And don't even let me talk about wages out here, going less and less by tha minute. I don't even apply for restaurants anymore because of tha fact that most of em hire illegal immigrants who can not do anything about being paid under-wage. We got over qualified people working at Taco Bell (my uncle), with a degree from University of tha Pacific (Private). U have these jobs takin a week to give U an answer if U qualify for an interview. Then after 2 weeks, U get another call saying come back for another interview...a month later, U get a call saying U are over-qualified for this job. People can not simply wait around for over a year 2 get hired. Muthafucaz need 2 feed their children. We need a new system, a new leader, a NEW movement. Just like tha homie C. Parker waz saying, We are at trying times right now and it's long over due for a new leadership. Lets give a woman a chance being the president. How about that??




Title: Re:Mannn, over 100 billion dollars spent on war...4 WHAT???
Post by: Trauma-san on September 23, 2003, 05:11:35 PM
To keep another sept 11th from happening.  We've ignored terrorism for decades, fuck it, we're going after every terrorist in the world now.  They've fucked with us long enough, they won't fuck with us for long, because we'll kill every fucking one of them.  That's what for :)
Title: Re:Mannn, over 100 billion dollars spent on war...4 WHAT???
Post by: Trauma-san on September 23, 2003, 05:13:32 PM
Oh... and your problems with getting a job, and bums everywhere.  That's not an america problem, it's not like that in my state.  It's a california problem.  Look at the fuckheads you guys have elected out there, that's where your fucking domestic problems are coming from.  
Title: Re:Mannn, over 100 billion dollars spent on war...4 WHAT???
Post by: Woodrow on September 23, 2003, 05:18:36 PM
AP: Bush Paper Details Iraq Spending Plan
Mon Sep 22, 7:35 PM ET  

By ALAN FRAM, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - The administration wants $100 million for an Iraqi witness protection program, $290 million to hire, train and house thousands of firefighters, $9 million to modernize the postal service, including establishment of ZIP codes.

A Bush administration document, distributed to members of Congress and obtained by The Associated Press, goes far beyond the details officials have publicly provided for how they would spend the $20.3 billion they have requested for Iraqi reconstruction.

The 53 pages of justifications flesh out the size of the task of rebuilding the country, almost literally brick by brick. It also paints a painstaking picture of the damage Iraq (news - web sites) has suffered.

"The war and subsequent looting destroyed over 165 firehouses throughout the country. There are no tools or equipment in any firehouse," according to the report, written by the Coalition Provisional Authority, the U.S.-led organization now running Iraq.

The report's estimated cost of rebuilding Iraq's fire service, including hiring and training 5,000 firefighters: $290 million.

At another point, the report says the headquarters and three regional offices of the border police "will require complete renovation." Two thousand new recruits must be trained because the agency previously used conscripts, "almost all of whom deserted."

Reviving that and other border protection agencies should cost $150 million, the report said.

The proposal was part of the $87 billion plan that President Bush (news - web sites) sent Congress on Sept. 7 for Iraq and Afghanistan (news - web sites). The biggest piece of that package was $66 billion to finance U.S. military operations in both countries and elsewhere.

"Expeditious approval of this emergency appropriation is critical for the coalition to lay the groundwork for an Iraq governed by and for the people of Iraq, to serve as the model for democracy in the Mideast and to help fight the global war on terrorism by providing an alternative framework for governance," the request states.

Congress, just beginning work on Bush's proposal, is expected to approve it largely intact. But the political soft spot has been the $20.3 billion for reconstruction, because of record federal deficits facing this country and demands by Democrats for increased domestic security spending.

"The administration fought against a $200 million boost for America's police officers, firefighters and paramedics," Sen. Robert Byrd, D-W.Va., said Monday at a Senate Appropriations Committee hearing. "But Iraqi first responders would get $290 million through this" Bush proposal.

Byrd made his comments at a hearing where L. Paul Bremer, the U.S. administrator in Iraq, testified that the plan would help prevent terrorists from establishing a foothold there.

Other projects and their estimated costs listed in the report include:

_Spend $100 million to protect and perhaps relocate overseas 100 witnesses and their families who testify against former government officials, terrorist groups or organized crime figures. "Without an effective witness protection program, it is simply not possible to prosecute these cases," the report says.

_Hire, train and equip 20,000 guards to protect Iraqi government facilities, $67 million.

_Retain 500 experts to investigate crimes against humanity by former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s government, for $100 million.

_Build and modernize 26 jails and prisons for 8,500 inmates, $99 million.

_Spend $9 million to modernize Iraq's postal system, including establishment of ZIP codes.

_Rebuild the country's badly damaged electrical system, install at least 11 40-megawatt gas turbine generation plants and several larger units, replace power lines and towers, $2.9 billion.

_Spend $55 million for an oil pipeline repair team that can respond quickly to new reports of sabotage or other problems, as part of a $2.1 billion effort to rebuild Iraq's oil industry.

_Use $1 billion to provide drinkable water to 75 percent of Iraq's urban population, an additional 2.7 million people, up from 60 percent today. An additional $530 million would be spent to serve 75 percent of the rural population, an additional 1.3 million, many of whom now rely on water trucked in as infrequently as once every 10 days. Eventual goal: serve 90 percent of the population, $2.8 billion.

_Spend $130 million to construct 10 major irrigation and drainage projects.

_Use $125 million to rebuild railroad tracks.

_Start building at least 3,528 new houses next year as part of a $100 million housing initiative.

_Designate $150 million to start building a new children's hospital in Basra.

_Spend $35 million to subsidize on-the-job training for private businesses.
 
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=540&u=/ap/20030922/ap_on_re_mi_ea/us_iraq_reconstruction&printer=1

Title: Re:Mannn, over 100 billion dollars spent on war...4 WHAT???
Post by: UnstoppableForce on September 23, 2003, 05:26:15 PM
Oh... and your problems with getting a job, and bums everywhere.  That's not an america problem, it's not like that in my state.  It's a california problem.  Look at the fuckheads you guys have elected out there, that's where your fucking domestic problems are coming from.  

Yeah, you're right, Reagen and Wilson really fucked this place up.
Title: Re:Mannn, over 100 billion dollars spent on war...4 WHAT???
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on September 23, 2003, 05:26:43 PM
^True about California...If we don't choose a real governor for tha people this time around, Cali will explode from inside...I am experiencing 1 of tha most fucked up times I have ever witnessed out here ever...

On another note...I feel 151% sympathy for tha 9/11 tragedies & in no way am I supporting...but it has gotten over rated...think about it...

Do yall remember tha sanction in Iraq? Sanction alone killed 2 millions ppl in Iraq, (women innocnet children)

Clinton also supported tha bombing of a Sudan pharmaceutical plant, which he accused of manufactoring bio weapons, which later turned out to be false. That bombing alone not only killed the people IN THERE, but all the other people who were getting cheap medicine from tha plant, it is estimated that over 250,000 died becuase they couldn't get the medicine, in a very short period of time.

I aint even trying 2 get into it...theres like 2 lil examples from tha Clinton dayz rite there...

I'm just saying, let's keep it real...we keep talkin bout how we wanna avoid another 9/11...but what do U think people out there is trying 2 avoid? We all human...















Title: Re:Mannn, over 100 billion dollars spent on war...4 WHAT???
Post by: UnstoppableForce on September 23, 2003, 05:31:29 PM
To prevent another 9/11 from happening?
So we have to steal oil, give up freedoms, and kill civilians?
Title: Re:Mannn, over 100 billion dollars spent on war...4 WHAT???
Post by: Woodrow on September 23, 2003, 05:33:02 PM
Do yall remember tha sanction in Iraq? Sanction alone killed 2 millions ppl in Iraq, (women innocnet children)
This is in no way shape or form the fault of the United States. UN Sanctions, and the fault of Saddam Regime.
Title: Re:Mannn, over 100 billion dollars spent on war...4 WHAT???
Post by: UnstoppableForce on September 23, 2003, 05:35:00 PM
And you think the U.S. would spend $100 billion and not expect something in return? Yeah right.
Oh yeah, and what was the reason for going to war? Weapons of Mass Destruction? Whatever happened to that. Oh, and then Saddam was linked to Osama? But no proof. It's ok though, the American public will believe it.
Title: Re:Mannn, over 100 billion dollars spent on war...4 WHAT???
Post by: Doggystylin on September 23, 2003, 05:36:02 PM
hey fuck bush,fuckin fix your sig, all those banners are goin horizontal n fuckin up the screen
put em on top of eachother
Title: Re:Mannn, over 100 billion dollars spent on war...4 WHAT???
Post by: JTSimon on September 23, 2003, 06:43:19 PM
Oh... and your problems with getting a job, and bums everywhere.  That's not an america problem, it's not like that in my state.  It's a california problem.  Look at the fuckheads you guys have elected out there, that's where your fucking domestic problems are coming from.  

FUCK YOU Bush let California get screwed by Enron.......so Republican can take over California/State Congress  >:(

America is ending up like Enron....clean your fucking office out and pose for playboy.
Title: Re:Mannn, over 100 billion dollars spent on war...4 WHAT???
Post by: Javier on September 23, 2003, 08:13:40 PM
Oh... and your problems with getting a job, and bums everywhere.  That's not an america problem, it's not like that in my state.  It's a california problem.  Look at the fuckheads you guys have elected out there, that's where your fucking domestic problems are coming from.  

u sure America doesnt have a problem with the job situation?
Title: Re:Mannn, over 100 billion dollars spent on war...4 WHAT???
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on September 23, 2003, 08:21:12 PM
To keep another sept 11th from happening.  We've ignored terrorism for decades, fuck it, we're going after every terrorist in the world now.  They've fucked with us long enough, they won't fuck with us for long, because we'll kill every fucking one of them.  That's what for :)

*smacks head in frustration*

Invading Iraq didnt do a single thing for Al Qaeda except give them a better position to shoot American soldiers from. You wanna stop terrorism? Stop fuckin with the Islamic world.
Title: Re:Mannn, over 100 billion dollars spent on war...4 WHAT???
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on September 23, 2003, 08:24:37 PM
Do yall remember tha sanction in Iraq? Sanction alone killed 2 millions ppl in Iraq, (women innocnet children)
This is in no way shape or form the fault of the United States. UN Sanctions, and the fault of Saddam Regime.

The Americans created the resolution callin for UN sanctions. They kept it in place with their veto power, when other nations sought to end it.
America is directly responsible for those sanctions on Iraq.
Title: Re:Mannn, over 100 billion dollars spent on war...4 WHAT???
Post by: Woodrow on September 23, 2003, 08:25:27 PM
Do yall remember tha sanction in Iraq? Sanction alone killed 2 millions ppl in Iraq, (women innocnet children)
This is in no way shape or form the fault of the United States. UN Sanctions, and the fault of Saddam Regime.

The Americans created the resolution callin for UN sanctions. They kept it in place with their veto power, when other nations sought to end it.
America is directly responsible for those sanctions on Iraq.
And why did the UN put the sanctions in place?
Title: Re:Mannn, over 100 billion dollars spent on war...4 WHAT???
Post by: UnstoppableForce on September 23, 2003, 09:02:15 PM
Why are we at war with Iraq?
Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. At the time we entered the war, Bush claimed that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction; seems like Bush is a weapon of mass deception.
Title: Re:Mannn, over 100 billion dollars spent on war...4 WHAT???
Post by: Eidolon_Ravi on September 23, 2003, 10:49:29 PM
Oh... and your problems with getting a job, and bums everywhere.  That's not an america problem, it's not like that in my state.  It's a california problem.  Look at the fuckheads you guys have elected out there, that's where your fucking domestic problems are coming from.  

 Oh yeah.. so u think that the states can manage their own affairs without funds from the centre???!!
 And where the centre is planning to invest all the taxpayers money is now everyone's knowledge.
Title: Re:Mannn, over 100 billion dollars spent on war...4 WHAT???
Post by: Eidolon_Ravi on September 23, 2003, 10:58:56 PM
^True about California...If we don't choose a real governor for tha people this time around, Cali will explode from inside...I am experiencing 1 of tha most fucked up times I have ever witnessed out here ever...

On another note...I feel 151% sympathy for tha 9/11 tragedies & in no way am I supporting...but it has gotten over rated...think about it...

Do yall remember tha sanction in Iraq? Sanction alone killed 2 millions ppl in Iraq, (women innocnet children)

Clinton also supported tha bombing of a Sudan pharmaceutical plant, which he accused of manufactoring bio weapons, which later turned out to be false. That bombing alone not only killed the people IN THERE, but all the other people who were getting cheap medicine from tha plant, it is estimated that over 250,000 died becuase they couldn't get the medicine, in a very short period of time.

I aint even trying 2 get into it...theres like 2 lil examples from tha Clinton dayz rite there...

I'm just saying, let's keep it real...we keep talkin bout how we wanna avoid another 9/11...but what do U think people out there is trying 2 avoid? We all human...


Exactly and some ppl. are still mad and crying over the killling off a few thousdands on a single day...
 
but now look what the American troops are doing..
 * They occupy another countyr's territory
 * They kill innocent ppl.. daily news come of civilian houses being targeted, womed innocent children being killed or maimed for life... and teh apologies rendered have now become almost a spectacle..
 * Anyone saw the orchestra where Kofi annan played the Congo drum and another Brazilian Diplomat played the violin...
   
    It would have looked better if Bush were playing the Oil Barrel and Blair plaing along with him on the violin... they look like a buncha comedians..  
Title: Re:Mannn, over 100 billion dollars spent on war...4 WHAT???
Post by: Woodrow on September 23, 2003, 11:25:35 PM
Why are we at war with Iraq?
Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. At the time we entered the war, Bush claimed that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction; seems like Bush is a weapon of mass deception.
I didn't know we gave 87 billion dollars to countries we were at war with.
Title: Re:Mannn, over 100 billion dollars spent on war...4 WHAT???
Post by: UnstoppableForce on September 24, 2003, 12:58:21 PM
Why are we at war with Iraq?
Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. At the time we entered the war, Bush claimed that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction; seems like Bush is a weapon of mass deception.
I didn't know we gave 87 billion dollars to countries we were at war with.

If we're gonna fuck a country up, bomb the shit out of it, kill millions of civilians, and steal the oil, then we have every fuckin reason to spend that money.