West Coast Connection Forum
Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: mauzip on September 25, 2003, 09:19:32 AM
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Tsjetjenia, I don't know how you spell it lol
Anywayz, what I was gonna ask is this. What is that whole war over there about?
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chechnia? <- closer than u i think :)
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chechnia? <- closer than u i think :)
blah, my spelling looks like the way you spell it in dutch ;)
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anyone?
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Well, during the 19th century Czarist expeditions southwards, and Stalins sweep of Central Asia in the 1920's and 1930's, Chechnya was absorbed into Russia. While all the members of the former Soviet Union were all granted independance, the Chechyans surprised the Russians by demanding independance as well (The Russians of course assumed the Chechens had accepted their fate).
Chechnya declared independance, The Russians invaded, and between 1994-1996, 60 000 Russians died in Chechnya. The conflict ended with de facto Chechyan independace.
Few Years ago, the Chechyans started assisting the Dagistanis (another region in SW Russia, similiar circumstances as Chechnya).
The Russians responded with an invasion of Chechya. They currently occupy most of Chechya.
Human rights abuses are common in Chechnya. Men are sent to Gulagesque labour camps, the women are raped, homes are demolished. Amnesty Intl will tell you this.
Of course in this "new post 9/11 world", a blind eye is being turned to the destruction of the Chechen people. So when they in desperation turn to acts of violence, they are being denounced.
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:o thanks!
i'm doing a project about this subject for school. now i kind of know where to start ;)
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no problem
side fact: The Chechen rebels used to have a strong ally in Afghanistans Taliban. There was even a Chechen embassy in Kabul.
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Tsjetjenia, I don't know how you spell it lol
Anywayz, what I was gonna ask is this. What is that whole war over there about?
The reason for this conflict is the same reason there is violence and war wherever Muslims are. Wherever Muslims are in great numbers, such as Chechnya, they attempt to use violent revolution to overthrow the existing government, in this case Russia, and impose an oppressive Islamic government regardless of the wishes of non Muslims in the area. The Checnyans are trying to do this through traditional Islamic means such as suicide bombings and other forms of terrorism. Russia is trying to stop them from doing that and I don't blame them.
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Tsjetjenia, I don't know how you spell it lol
Anywayz, what I was gonna ask is this. What is that whole war over there about?
The reason for this conflict is the same reason there is violence and war wherever Muslims are. Wherever Muslims are in great numbers, such as Chechnya, they attempt to use violent revolution to overthrow the existing government, in this case Russia, and impose an oppressive Islamic government regardless of the wishes of non Muslims in the area. The Checnyans are trying to do this through traditional Islamic means such as suicide bombings and other forms of terrorism. Russia is trying to stop them from doing that and I don't blame them.
LOL... you're hillarious...
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CWalker did you know Muslims in the U.S. are planning to do the same thing? :-*
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Tsjetjenia, I don't know how you spell it lol
Anywayz, what I was gonna ask is this. What is that whole war over there about?
The reason for this conflict is the same reason there is violence and war wherever Muslims are. Wherever Muslims are in great numbers, such as Chechnya, they attempt to use violent revolution to overthrow the existing government, in this case Russia, and impose an oppressive Islamic government regardless of the wishes of non Muslims in the area. The Checnyans are trying to do this through traditional Islamic means such as suicide bombings and other forms of terrorism. Russia is trying to stop them from doing that and I don't blame them.
1. The existing govt is illegitimate and doesnt have the support of the people
2. Non Muslims in Chechnya is not a strong minority. There are barely any.
3. Suicide bombing is a recent phenomena.
Youre an idiot, but seein the society of which you are a product, I dont blame ya.
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CWalker did you know Muslims in the U.S. are planning to do the same thing? :-*
Everyone knows that. But if they try it, the Muslims are going to get their asses beat down just like they always do when they mess with Christians. We are on a whole different level than they are.
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CWalker did you know Muslims in the U.S. are planning to do the same thing? :-*
Everyone knows that. But if they try it, the Muslims are going to get their asses beat down just like they always do when they mess with Christians. We are on a whole different level than they are.
WTC 9/11 8)