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Title: List of Governments America has Overthrown
Post by: Political Gangsta on October 03, 2002, 05:49:19 PM
America, as it's duty in policing the world at home and abroad, has played a large role in regime changes in Iran, Chile, Grenada, South Vietnam, Philipines, Nicaraqua, Panama, and Serbia.  

Where in the constitution is the government given the power to disrupt the stability of a government it dislikes?

America has been planting the seeds of dissention in foriegn nations ever since World War 1.  We do not need to be meddling in other countries business!  We simply need to protect our own borders.  

People wonder how a nation seperated by two of the largest oceans can live everyday in fear and high alert.  A great quote from Nixon offers an explanation....

"People don't go to the ballots and vote because they like you.  People vote because of fear.  Kennedy was loved because the Cuban Missle Crisis had the country in fear.  That's what made him who he was."

Whether it's Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Mao, or the Al Queda network, the government will use the vehicle of mass media to scare voters into the ballot box.  People unthinkingly believe that if we do not project a unified front against a global threat, we will be consumed by it.  Therefore, a country in fear stands behind their leader, their president.  George Bush knows this.  So don't plan on the high alert of terrorism being lifted any time soon.
Title: Re: List of Governments America has Overthrown
Post by: HBKid_Jr on October 03, 2002, 05:52:29 PM
if u hate america why dont u jus leave.  if your hatred for this country is so strong nothing should prevent you from leaving
Title: Re: List of Governments America has Overthrown
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on October 03, 2002, 06:00:35 PM
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if u hate america why dont u jus leave.  if your hatred for this country is so strong nothing should prevent you from leaving



yawn...my favourite argument

"if u dont like it why dont u leave"

that tough American talk, ahh, nuthin beats it

where did PG say he didnt like America, he, as any sane and intelligent person would do, is criticizing the evil American foreign policy, instead of ignoring what PG said, how about u actually listen to what he said and figure out hes speakin the 100% undisputed truth?
Title: Re: List of Governments America has Overthrown
Post by: HBKid_Jr on October 03, 2002, 06:06:01 PM
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yawn...my favourite argument

"if u dont like it why dont u leave"

that tough American talk, ahh, nuthin beats it

where did PG say he didnt like America, he, as any sane and intelligent person would do, is criticizing the evil American foreign policy, instead of ignoring what PG said, how about u actually listen to what he said and figure out hes speakin the 100% undisputed truth?
his other post have lead me to believe he truly hates america so i am jus askin a simple question here.  it he hates it so much than we does he still enjoy tha freedoms of tha country.  nothing positive about america has ever come out of his mouth.  see it once an a while he spoke on tha positves of tha country maybe i would care what he has to say but as it stands he has not.  he hates it here so much an still enjoys tha freedoms offered to him
Title: Re: List of Governments America has Overthrown
Post by: Don Jacob on October 03, 2002, 06:06:09 PM
"to provide for the common defense"
Title: Re: List of Governments America has Overthrown
Post by: HBKid_Jr on October 03, 2002, 06:07:38 PM
oh yea,  can ya please  get off infinite/PG's nuts.  im sure he can defend himself an answer questions posed to him
Title: Re: List of Governments America has Overthrown
Post by: Doggystylin on October 03, 2002, 06:15:51 PM
omg this shit is so god damn repetative....infinite posts some shit...., someone says leave if u dont like it....tech comes in defends it like its his life....others jump in....blah blah blah...i definitley need to make some moves in my life, i cant go on like this...
Title: Re: List of Governments America has Overthrown
Post by: Political Gangsta on October 03, 2002, 06:30:16 PM
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his other post have lead me to believe he truly hates america so i am jus askin a simple question here.  it he hates it so much than we does he still enjoy tha freedoms of tha country.  nothing positive about america has ever come out of his mouth.  see it once an a while he spoke on tha positves of tha country maybe i would care what he has to say but as it stands he has not.  he hates it here so much an still enjoys tha freedoms offered to him


I am not on trial here.  The subject at hand here had nothing to do with me and everything to do with America's corrupt foriegn policy.  If you want to get personal, and on top of that hyperbolize the friendship that exists between myself and my brother in faith (Tech) then I will respond likewise...

Sam... You have already lost the argument.  It is over.  You have limited knowledge of the subject at hand and therefore you have thrown your hands up in the air; and proven to be morally exempt of doing any justice to the subject at hand.  In your desperate attempt to salvage your battered image you once had for your government (your god) you have been reduced to placing words in my mouth and then defiently knocking down your own creation.

Want to get personal... You are representing what is the internal decay of American society.  Our American way, written by John Locke and the founders of this country.  Decided that man's natural inclination was towards wrongdoing, and that if we could consume them in making money, cheap stimulants, chasing pussy, and competing in a capatalistic market; then maybe we can control this beasts of men.  So then, consequently, when someone like me tries to educate the common man; you become angry.  Why must you critisize the efforts of solemn men who have undertaken the task of rejuvenating the battered psyches and shattered images man has assumed for himself?

My deepest roots are in modes of religious trancendence and that often leads to political opposition.  If the polotics are not just and fair. Therefore what I speak is seductive, real.  It should be real to rootless and alienated young people disenchanted with existential meaningless, disgusted with flaccid bodies and dissatisfied with the status quo.  

But you have been irretrievably brainwashed.  The mass media has done it's job with you.  You believe that your true inclination is to do wrong!  Just like John Locke wanted it.

Title: Re: List of Governments America has Overthrown
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on October 03, 2002, 06:41:15 PM
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oh yea,  can ya please  get off infinite/PG's nuts.  im sure he can defend himself an answer questions posed to him


your comment wasnt legitimate in the first place, so it is not PGs responsibility to legitimize your weak comment, it is my responsibility to make u understand your comment was dumb

and Doggy, shut up.....
Title: Re: List of Governments America has Overthrown
Post by: Doggystylin on October 03, 2002, 06:44:02 PM
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your comment wasnt legitimate in the first place, so it is not PGs responsibility to legitimize your weak comment, it is my responsibility to make u understand your comment was dumb

and Doggy, shut up.....


hey its the truth bitch!, lol...i swear....this shit is like a never ending cycle. and its so damn annoying, lets make this spot called the aruments of engelwood, jake, tech, infinite and his imaginary buddy.
Title: Re: List of Governments America has Overthrown
Post by: Trauma-san on October 03, 2002, 06:48:00 PM
LOL @ this. Yall are all gonna grow up to be bitter old men, because you'd rather dwell on criticising wrong things.  I've said it before, I'll say it again, yall still wont listen.  You don't get anything done complaining, or attacking someting.  The next Revolution will come from within. If you don't like how something's done, attacking it will never change it.  Living your life as an example of the RIGHT way to do things is the first step towards making the world a better place.  The government's messed up, but you know what? The people living in america who don't tell their congressmen what they want don't help any.  When was the last time you told a congressmen, or your local city county government, what they were doing right?  Without reinforcement, they're never gonna know which way to run the country.  

Example:

If a kid doesn't know how to drive a car, you have two ways to teach him. You can put him in the car, then bitch everytime he does something wrong, and risk the ruin of him wrecking the car.  

Or.

You can tell him beforehand how to drive, explain to him how things work, etc. And when he gets in the car the first time, he's gonna be 100 times better than if you had just criticised him.

It's a simple concept.  I'm surprised yall haven't heard of it.  Positive reinforcement?  

I repeat, attacking something, or criticising, never, ever, ever, EVER works.  And anybody with half a brain should know that.  The revolution will come from within.
Title: Re: List of Governments America has Overthrown
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on October 03, 2002, 06:48:47 PM
hows it the truth?

i agree with 99% of the shit Infinite/PG say...so when some dude tries to diminish their significance or attempt to dissmiss em irrationally , i defend PGs beliefs
Title: Re: List of Governments America has Overthrown
Post by: Doggystylin on October 03, 2002, 06:56:07 PM
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hows it the truth?

i agree with 99% of the shit Infinite/PG say...so when some dude tries to diminish their significance or attempt to dissmiss em irrationally , i defend PGs beliefs


umm? hello? are you awake? wtf are you talkin about?, do you know what IM talkin about?
Title: Re: List of Governments America has Overthrown
Post by: Political Gangsta on October 03, 2002, 07:01:06 PM
It is obvious what is being done here.  I have started a thread expressing idea's that are outside your mental reach.  Therefore, Tom had to change the subject, so that the level of convesation could descend low enough that he could poke wholes in it.

I will not make allowances for people who critisize out of a lack of knowledge and understanding.  If you do not understand what I am speaking on then wiegh it objectively on it's own merit.  But don't think that you can get by making left-handed, mentally abbreviated counter-arguments.

Title: Re: List of Governments America has Overthrown
Post by: Trauma-san on October 03, 2002, 07:03:48 PM
^^ Your entire vendetta is flawed, which I thoroughly documented above, but I guess that's outside your box.  You'd rather keep shadowboxing.  GO GET EM, BUDDY!!! TAKE ON THE GOVERNMENT, LOL.

Brian was born a christian white guy.  LOL.  By the age of 18, he had thoroughly discarded Jesus Christ and the Most powerful government in the world.  Anybody else see something wrong here?

Somebody's got an authority problem.  
Title: Re: List of Governments America has Overthrown
Post by: Doggystylin on October 03, 2002, 07:05:51 PM
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It is obvious what is being done here.  I have started a thread expressing idea's that are outside your mental reach.  Therefore, Tom had to change the subject, so that the level of convesation could descend low enough that he could poke wholes in it.

I will not make allowances for people who critisize out of a lack of knowledge and understanding.  If you do not understand what I am speaking on then wiegh it objectively on it's own merit.  But don't think that you can get by making left-handed, mentally abbreviated counter-arguments.



u talkin to me? if u are....i understand what your sayin...im just speakin on the routine of the threads, its the same deal in every thread, doesnt it get old?, same deal everytime, its a never ending cycle and it has no advantages for any of us
Title: Re: List of Governments America has Overthrown
Post by: Trauma-san on October 03, 2002, 07:12:16 PM
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u talkin to me? if u are....i understand what your sayin...im just speakin on the routine of the threads, its the same deal in every thread, doesnt it get old?, same deal everytime, its a never ending cycle and it has no advantages for any of us


See, I think, what the problem is, is this.  

Brian knows he's powerless.  He knows he's not much of a man, and there's not much he can do that's important.  At least that's how he feels, whether it's true or not... and this is his subconscious talking, so he doesn't even realize this is the problem.

So, he does two things.  To compensate for what he feels is his inability to get anything meaningful accomplished, he has to project the blame on something else.  The only thing expressing any control over his life, is authority.  Any thing in authority, Brian has a major problem with.  Why? Because he sees them messing with his life (laws, religion, etc.) and so he automatically assumes they are the reason he is like he is.  Since he's unhappy with how he is, he's unhappy with authority. It's their fault. It's the governments fault he feels like an outkast, at root.

Second, to feel powerful, he attacks huge things he knows he can't beat.  You won't see brian down at city hall talking trying to get something accomplished.  Why? Because that might work.  Instead, he'd rather hold arguments that can't be won, even though he's spinning his wheels, it gives him something to do.  He'd be a lot better served to concentrate on making his life, his family, and his friends better people, that way he could get something accomplished.  

If everyone did this, the world would be perfect.  If everybody attacked authority, the world would be total chaos.  Some of us are inproperly orientated, and can't realize what's causing the trauma.  
Title: Re: List of Governments America has Overthrown
Post by: HBKid_Jr on October 03, 2002, 07:13:35 PM
please tell me brian how i am brain washed.  also please never ever speak about tha streets when u have no knowledge on them what so ever,  an tech  ::),  u talk about englewood bein on ur nuts but in every post brain makes u defend him like u r his own lil body guard
Title: Re: List of Governments America has Overthrown
Post by: HBKid_Jr on October 03, 2002, 07:17:00 PM
u kno what,  i realize i am steering tha argument in tha wrong direction,  i kno realize i am a fuckin idiot,  i am a brain washed brain dead american.  i am goin to listen to my axel rose cd's,  sit on my porch waving my american flag
Title: Re: List of Governments America has Overthrown
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on October 03, 2002, 07:17:05 PM
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See, I think, what the problem is, is this.  

Brian knows he's powerless.  He knows he's not much of a man, and there's not much he can do that's important.  At least that's how he feels, whether it's true or not... and this is his subconscious talking, so he doesn't even realize this is the problem.

So, he does two things.  To compensate for what he feels is his inability to get anything meaningful accomplished, he has to project the blame on something else.  The only thing expressing any control over his life, is authority.  Any thing in authority, Brian has a major problem with.  Why? Because he sees them messing with his life (laws, religion, etc.) and so he automatically assumes they are the reason he is like he is.  Since he's unhappy with how he is, he's unhappy with authority. It's their fault. It's the governments fault he feels like an outkast, at root.

Second, to feel powerful, he attacks huge things he knows he can't beat.  You won't see brian down at city hall talking trying to get something accomplished.  Why? Because that might work.  Instead, he'd rather hold arguments that can't be won, even though he's spinning his wheels, it gives him something to do.  He'd be a lot better served to concentrate on making his life, his family, and his friends better people, that way he could get something accomplished.  

If everyone did this, the world would be perfect.  If everybody attacked authority, the world would be total chaos.  Some of us are inproperly orientated, and can't realize what's causing the trauma.  


or he could be just criticizing America's evils.....??
Title: Re: List of Governments America has Overthrown
Post by: Trauma-san on October 03, 2002, 07:18:36 PM
We'll let everybody decide for themselves, thankyaverymuch.  
Title: Re: List of Governments America has Overthrown
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on October 03, 2002, 07:19:16 PM
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please tell me brian how i am brain washed.  also please never ever speak about tha streets when u have no knowledge on them what so ever,  an tech  ::),  u talk about englewood bein on ur nuts but in every post brain makes u defend him like u r his own lil body guard



i dismiss your attempts to sow the seeds of discontent between me and Infinite, i consider him a brother, i agree wit most of his views, and i sense unnecessary hate towards him...thats why i defend him
Title: Re: List of Governments America has Overthrown
Post by: Political Gangsta on October 03, 2002, 07:20:12 PM
I have officially won this argument.  I was so far over everyone's head they couldn't help but stray away from the subject at hand.  Next!

Btw, it's not about winning arguments.  I'd like to biuld with everyone here.  We can all learn from eachother.

Everyone shall be entitled to their own opinion.  Then maybe we all can learn from eachother.  All these personal squabbles do nothing.  So if nobody would like to adequetely discuss the opening issue of this thread then I will take my attention elsewhere.  

On to the next issue in my studies...
Title: Re: List of Governments America has Overthrown
Post by: Doggystylin on October 03, 2002, 07:21:16 PM
i dont know what to say, im all mixed up, i want peace, i want mexican food, i want this chick, and i dont know how to get any of them except mexican food, i got the hook up with that ish. sheeeeeeeet, i need help, so *ina 2pac voice* "LORD HELP MEE!!!"
Title: Re: List of Governments America has Overthrown
Post by: Doggystylin on October 03, 2002, 07:22:09 PM
lmao @ this topic btw
Title: Re: List of Governments America has Overthrown
Post by: HBKid_Jr on October 03, 2002, 07:23:27 PM
No FUCK U,  IMMA KILL U WIT MAH AMERICAN FLAG CUZ IM BRAIN WASHED,  LONG LIVE AMERICA,  WHERE ALL FUCKIN IDIOTS CEPT PG.  I DUNN SEEN THA LIGHT,  GOD BLESS AMERICA.  GOD BLESS AMERICA,  GOD BLESS GEORGE BUSH,  GOD BLESS AMERICAS FOREIGN POLICY,  GOD BLESS AXEL ROSE,  GOD BLESS AN BEER GUZZLING BLUE COLLARED WORKER.
Title: Re: List of Governments America has Overthrown
Post by: Political Gangsta on October 03, 2002, 07:23:28 PM
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i dismiss your attempts to sow the seeds of discontent between me and Infinite, i consider him a brother, i agree wit most of his views, and i sense unnecessary hate towards him...thats why i defend him


We are bound by something that is larger then this forum.  We are bound by a deep love and reverence for our Creator.  Therefore, even if Tech and I were to have a minor disagreement it could be solved privately, outside of public view.
Title: Re: List of Governments America has Overthrown
Post by: Don Jacob on October 03, 2002, 07:28:37 PM
why does everyone piss on axle roses name here


Title: Re: List of Governments America has Overthrown
Post by: HBKid_Jr on October 03, 2002, 07:29:36 PM
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We are bound by something that is larger then this forum.  We are bound by a deep love and reverence for our Creator.  Therefore, even if Tech and I were to have a minor disagreement it could be solved privately, outside of public view.

NO,  IN AMERICA WE SETTLE IT LIKE MEN,  BARE KNUCKLE BOXING,  THAN AFTERWARDS WE GET DRUNK AN PRAY TO GEORGE DUBBYA
Title: Re: List of Governments America has Overthrown
Post by: Doggystylin on October 03, 2002, 07:30:14 PM
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why does everyone piss on axle roses name here




hmm i would consider it shitting on....piss on is slight, this seems to be a heavy deal
Title: Re: List of Governments America has Overthrown
Post by: Doggystylin on October 03, 2002, 07:30:38 PM
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NO,  IN AMERICA WE SETTLE IT LIKE MEN,  BARE KNUCKLE BOXING,  THAN AFTERWARDS WE GET DRUNK AN PRAY TO GEORGE DUBBYA


LMAO
Title: Re: List of Governments America has Overthrown
Post by: Don Jacob on October 03, 2002, 08:03:30 PM
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NO,  IN AMERICA WE SETTLE IT LIKE MEN,  BARE KNUCKLE BOXING,  THAN AFTERWARDS WE GET DRUNK AN PRAY TO GEORGE DUBBYA



you forgot man we go out blast the Guns n roses and ride around in a pick up truck in shrink-to-fit  wranglers jeans with our oversized belt buckles and go hog tie us some cavs then go wrastle ourselfs some bulls then go home and play darts where our bulls eye is the unholy koran while the mrs. trims the good ol' mullet .....yeeeeeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaaaw

just another day in the life of the amerian citizen
Title: Re: List of Governments America has Overthrown
Post by: bLaDe on October 04, 2002, 07:57:22 AM
lmfao

 -{bLaDe}