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Title: Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: Don Seer on November 25, 2003, 02:30:52 AM
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Al Qaeda: Countdown for “biggest operation yet inside America”.

Monday, November 24, Al Qaeda marked Eid al Fitr, the festival closing the Muslim festival of Ramadan, with a dramatic warning. DEBKAfile’s counter-terror sources reports that a message published over al Qaeda’s electronic channels and websites declared that the countdown has begun for the biggest operation ever carried out in the United States. “The big blow will fall very shortly. It will consist of a series of surprise attacks that will cut America off from communication with its armies in Muslim countries.” The reference is clearly to US troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.

 

The largest number, around 115,000 soldiers, is present in Iraq.

 

Muslims living in the United States are urged to “take advantage of the short time left” to escape the country and harm’s way.

 

Some of the messages say that a new Osama bin Laden videotape will soon be out. It will also carry statements by al Qaeda members who executed the last suicide attacks in Saudi Arabia and adherents who died in clashes with Saudi security. They will be shown describing how they were prepared for action. Bin Laden will intersperse these cuts with comments explaining the selection of Saudi targets.

 

DEBKAfile’s counter-terror sources report that some of the new messages are signed by Abu Assam al Yamani, who also threatens to murder Abdul Rahman Rashid, editor of the Saudi London-based paper Sharq al Awsat. Al Yamani says the al Qaeda passed sentence of death against the editor because he not only met President George W. Bush in the British capital last week but interviewed him and appeared with the president in a joint photo.


http://aoreport.com/terroralerts.htm
http://www.debka.com/

Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: 7even on November 25, 2003, 03:50:59 AM
I doubt Bin Laden is healthy and I doubt even more that he or/and his crew will ever do big shit like the world trade.
Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: Don Seer on November 25, 2003, 04:03:11 AM
never underestimate the low-tech mentality


sounds like they're claiming they're going to cut american comms off between their forces in iraq and those in afghanistan.. hmm..


i must ask.. why the hell havent they caught bin laden yet?

this is viewed as some david vs goliath type shit by their supporters
Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: 7even on November 25, 2003, 04:08:34 AM
i must ask.. why the hell havent they caught bin laden yet?

in my opinion they will catch either him or saddem, right 'fore the elections start

this'd be the only chance for bush to be re-elected for good
Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: Don Seer on November 25, 2003, 04:12:17 AM
if they do attack again bush is fucked for not getting him in time...  right?
Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: 7even on November 25, 2003, 04:22:22 AM
ya
Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: Don Seer on November 25, 2003, 04:59:08 AM
well it might not come to that.. i mean 'the spin' has pretty much been like you said "i doubt Bin Laden is healthy" that comes from the stories about his kidneys, and whether thats a factor or not remains to be seen.. real question is.. is this propoganda or not?

there have been a few things like this before, there have been an increase in attacks on targets, like those ones in turkey.
Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: JTSimon on November 25, 2003, 06:24:21 AM
I doubt Bin Laden is healthy and I doubt even more that he or/and his crew will ever do big shit like the world trade.

Sorry but you don't know Jack...Osama himself says they plan on using dirty bombs in populated cities.

Osama Bin Laden has made no secret of his ambition to join the nuclear club — he has even proclaimed it a "religious duty" for Muslim states to acquire nuclear, chemical and biological weapons to attack the West. But intelligence officials believe that the best he has managed to achieve, thus far, is a limited membership of that club, in the form of radioactive material that could be dispersed using conventional explosives — the so-called "dirty bomb."

check the link to read more...

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,182637,00.html (http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,182637,00.html)
Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: Don Seer on November 25, 2003, 06:25:53 AM
yeah i was kinda worried about that.. if they really stoop to that, i dont beleive the french, germans, russians or even the chinese will have any issue with actions taken as a reply to that.
Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: JTSimon on November 25, 2003, 06:36:28 AM
yeah i was kinda worried about that.. if they really stoop to that, i dont beleive the french, germans, russians or even the chinese will have any issue with actions taken as a reply to that.

Bush used the keyword = crusade  to keep Osama supporters stronger than ever.

On the radio they were talking about how a coffee canister full of nuclear waste used a dirty bomb could kill thousands of people 75,000-100,000 depending on where it was used.

Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: Don Seer on November 25, 2003, 06:55:59 AM
crazy aint it.. i believe they'd do it too :(

whats quite weird is the stuff in this latest thing about them cutting off communications to the troops abroad... v. strange isnt it?  does this mean attacks in those countries to isolate the armies, along with attacks on american soil.. also those 2 latest turkish attacks were on british interests there :(

wonder if they're going for something in the xmas period?
Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: 7even on November 25, 2003, 07:32:07 AM
I doubt Bin Laden is healthy and I doubt even more that he or/and his crew will ever do big shit like the world trade.

Sorry but you don't know Jack...Osama himself says they plan on using dirty bombs in populated cities.

Osama Bin Laden has made no secret of his ambition to join the nuclear club — he has even proclaimed it a "religious duty" for Muslim states to acquire nuclear, chemical and biological weapons to attack the West. But intelligence officials believe that the best he has managed to achieve, thus far, is a limited membership of that club, in the form of radioactive material that could be dispersed using conventional explosives — the so-called "dirty bomb."

check the link to read more...

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,182637,00.html (http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,182637,00.html)

sorry but you can suck my dick if you like.. I didnt say Bin Laden doesnt want to do fuck up America, I said I doubt he will. and that's big difference. Maybe you want ta punch me in the face now, but you wont. Same thang. Just way lower level.
Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: Don Seer on November 25, 2003, 07:40:05 AM
I doubt Bin Laden is healthy and I doubt even more that he or/and his crew will ever do big shit like the world trade.

Sorry but you don't know Jack...Osama himself says they plan on using dirty bombs in populated cities.

Osama Bin Laden has made no secret of his ambition to join the nuclear club — he has even proclaimed it a "religious duty" for Muslim states to acquire nuclear, chemical and biological weapons to attack the West. But intelligence officials believe that the best he has managed to achieve, thus far, is a limited membership of that club, in the form of radioactive material that could be dispersed using conventional explosives — the so-called "dirty bomb."

check the link to read more...

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,182637,00.html (http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,182637,00.html)

sorry but you can suck my dick if you like.. I didnt say Bin Laden doesnt want to do fuck up America, I said I doubt he will. and that's big difference. Maybe you want ta punch me in the face now, but you wont. Same thang. Just way lower level.

^ how about you quit wit that attitude? talk nice or dont talk at all.
Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: 7even on November 25, 2003, 07:47:26 AM
I feel offended when somebody says I dont know Jack.. so I took that comment and fixed to a insulting ironic comment and pointed it at him again. genius shit. :D ..however the main reason for my posting was to make sure anybody knows i didnt talk about how nice and sensible bin laden is for not makin more serious terroristic attacks, i talked about how uncapable he is. <- which is the case for me, no matter how often he talks about throwin dirty bombs on big cities!
Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: Don Seer on November 25, 2003, 07:50:24 AM
you do NOT reply to a thread with "suck my dick if you like"..

homeland security has issued a warning about a possible chemical or biological attack coming real soon..  so they're just hyping the situation?

theres was stuff all over the news about this.. did you miss that? i.e. do you really not know jack?
Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: 7even on November 25, 2003, 08:03:05 AM
seriously... what do you want me to say? should I say youre all fucked and bin laden will throw dirty bombs/use chemical weapons/etc on you for being the greatest ally of the US? honestly dawg, I dont think so, and I dont know wtf your problem is now.
Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: Don Seer on November 25, 2003, 08:14:19 AM
dont take it to heart.. without the insults your reply would have been fine!

you disagree that bin laden has the ability to launch such an attack right?

people never thought in a million years that the WTC thing would happen and it did.

all i'm saying is they are making threats and there have been warnings made by homeland security.

i believe they can do it.. thats the worrying thing.
Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: JTSimon on November 25, 2003, 11:15:18 AM
I doubt Bin Laden is healthy and I doubt even more that he or/and his crew will ever do big shit like the world trade.

Sorry but you don't know Jack...Osama himself says they plan on using dirty bombs in populated cities.

Osama Bin Laden has made no secret of his ambition to join the nuclear club — he has even proclaimed it a "religious duty" for Muslim states to acquire nuclear, chemical and biological weapons to attack the West. But intelligence officials believe that the best he has managed to achieve, thus far, is a limited membership of that club, in the form of radioactive material that could be dispersed using conventional explosives — the so-called "dirty bomb."

check the link to read more...

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,182637,00.html (http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,182637,00.html)

sorry but you can suck my dick if you like.. I didnt say Bin Laden doesnt want to do fuck up America, I said I doubt he will. and that's big difference. Maybe you want ta punch me in the face now, but you wont. Same thang. Just way lower level.


I'm telling you Osama will fuk up America retard.
Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: smerlus on November 25, 2003, 11:17:55 AM
they won't kill sadaam or bin laden because each of them will be seen as martyrs for thier cause...thousands of new recruits would join thier cause... plus they seem to be pretty rational in thier own little way, if they die....who knows what kind of monster would take over thier operations
Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: Don Seer on November 25, 2003, 11:18:56 AM
true... sad as it sounds, they need to be captured, tried and imprisoned.

but in america you'd probably give them the easy exit..
Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: smerlus on November 25, 2003, 11:22:05 AM
capturing wouldn't be good either....you'd have to have major security watching them at all times....they couldn't go to regular jails due to patriotic cell mates.....then there's hostage situations...it would give the terrorists countless well populated targets to choose from to get thier leaders back.....best thing to do is let them be until thier followers numbers are decreased
Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: Don Seer on November 25, 2003, 11:25:51 AM
very good point, i'd never really though about it that deeply. maybe its better just to kill their organisation, cell by cell..  they've already got a few lower leaders.. if those reports are true bin laden doesnt have too many years left.
Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: Woodrow on November 25, 2003, 11:31:30 AM
Not Including Osama, We've caught a good number of top Al Qaeda leaders.
Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: smerlus on November 25, 2003, 11:47:56 AM
as long as we keep capturing the less known leaders and breaking thier ranks like that everything will go smoothly....of course there is going to be more terrorist attacks but bin laden isn't a foolish man.....placing a dirty bomb in one of the attacking country's large cities might give him a boost in soldiers....but would make him far more enemies.....i don't think countries like france, germany, russia, even china and india, would stand for that kind of massacre.

so he'll stick to the more safe routes like bombing military sites and guerilla warfare
Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: Don Seer on November 25, 2003, 12:06:49 PM
^ hey i said that( about france/germany etc...)  lol

very true tho...

i'm particularly curious about the the threat against communication with its armies... is there some central point or something i'm not aware of?

i thought they used satellites between the US and their command centres, and beyond that more satellite equipment between the mobile troops on the ground and the command centres..

how do you fuck a satellite up?
Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: smerlus on November 25, 2003, 12:13:06 PM
i think they're talking alot of shit but some of it can be true...when i worked in japan at the major communications station there, the building was easily viewable from the mall that was about 300 yards away...and since the mall is off base, it would be an easier place to smuggle weapons into... but the military has back up plans for everything.... if japan were to go out the messages would simply travel from san diego, to hawaii and guam would pick up all the message traffic
Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: JTSimon on November 25, 2003, 12:16:38 PM
Not Including Osama, We've caught a good number of top Al Qaeda leaders.

You sound like George W. Bush's spokesperson.

All you need is money to keep Al Qaeda going.
Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: smerlus on November 25, 2003, 12:21:37 PM
Not Including Osama, We've caught a good number of top Al Qaeda leaders.

You sound like George W. Bush's spokesperson.

All you need is money to keep Al Qaeda going.


so if i had millions of dollars, a terrorist army is just going to appear in front of me? i always thought that alot of recruiting and planning by people went into building a terrorist organization

money is an important role, but without good strategists, they're left with nothing but hi jackers and murderers....look at the rebels in the phillipines....all they do is take hostages in thier own country....even germany would be able to wipe them out in a few years if they wanted to
Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: Don Seer on November 25, 2003, 12:24:26 PM
i think they're talking alot of shit but some of it can be true...when i worked in japan at the major communications station there, the building was easily viewable from the mall that was about 300 yards away...and since the mall is off base, it would be an easier place to smuggle weapons into... but the military has back up plans for everything.... if japan were to go out the messages would simply travel from san diego, to hawaii and guam would pick up all the message traffic

yup.. i mean the internet was designed as a fail safe system, its impossible to take it down, u might be able to take out links, but theres always another route

but with satellites its a fixed thing that passes overhead every 4 minutes.. and with more of em, less so.. i'm not sure if satellites can talk to each other.. guess so
Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: smerlus on November 25, 2003, 12:34:41 PM
all the major satillites for the military over lap....not completely but well enough...and the military also can use commercial satillites if they wanted to....anyways i doubt that al qaeda can park a van up in space to blow up any of these satillites
Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: JTSimon on November 25, 2003, 12:43:16 PM
Not Including Osama, We've caught a good number of top Al Qaeda leaders.

You sound like George W. Bush's spokesperson.

All you need is money to keep Al Qaeda going.


so if i had millions of dollars, a terrorist army is just going to appear in front of me? i always thought that alot of recruiting and planning by people went into building a terrorist organization

money is an important role, but without good strategists, they're left with nothing but hi jackers and murderers....look at the rebels in the phillipines....all they do is take hostages in thier own country....even germany would be able to wipe them out in a few years if they wanted to

No what I meant was even if Osama or top leaders were captured Al Qaeda would have many to take their place. All they would need is a money supply that Osama provides for them.
Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: Don Seer on November 25, 2003, 12:53:53 PM
lol @ van

yeah i kinda figure they would overlap...  what i was heading towards above was questioning whether everything relays through a centralised distribution centre so information packets route through somewhere first.. call it a central communications headquarters  something like  

soldier -> satellite -> distribution centre -> satellite -> target

in which case the distribution centre would be the target... the satellites wont carry all the processing power, they're simply for ferrying information around... in very simple terms. take out the central point and you've broken the military's communication network.

like.. in the UK theres GCHQ 'goverment communications hq' and several smaller posts at bletchley park (the former hq, and the place where we cracked enigma) there are other posts like we have some in cyprus, the US even has a controversial one over here in a base in the north called Menwith Hill... i live in a town with a lot of military contractors and connections.. like we have a place that does all the maps of the world for our navy (and   few lines of dents in fields here and there from when the germans tried to hit it on boming runs!) and we have various military contractors here and there.
Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: smerlus on November 25, 2003, 03:00:18 PM
you got it right when you said it's like the internet...if one thing goes down, something will take it's place....it may or may not be better and will temporarily disrupt things but i don't see how they plan on totally cutting off transmissions unless they plan on bombing the pentagon, norfolk and san diego...even them, i'm sure there's a couple places i'm missing
Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: Woodrow on November 25, 2003, 06:14:31 PM
Not Including Osama, We've caught a good number of top Al Qaeda leaders.

You sound like George W. Bush's spokesperson.

All you need is money to keep Al Qaeda going.
This coming from a college freshman who's never seen Scarface, called himself a pimp, then asked how to get into a girls pants.  ::)

You can't argue with facts

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/asiapcf/south/03/01/pakistan.arrests/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/asiapcf/04/30/pakistan.alqaeda/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/11/21/alqaeda.capture/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/south/09/14/alqaeda.capture/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/06/18/alqaeda.arrest/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/central/01/08/ret.afghan.prisoners/index.html
Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: Lincoln on November 25, 2003, 07:09:02 PM
I'm sick of these fucking terrorists giving Islam a bad name. They make it hard for us to live peacefully because they make us look bad.
Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: Rain03 on November 25, 2003, 07:34:26 PM
what amazes me in this thread is people are acting like terrorism is a threat that can be removed.

its like murder, drug use - they will never be able to stop it totally - its just impossible

do i think there will be another terrorist act in us/uk? most likely. but it would occur if the al qaeda were around or not, it would occur even if saddam and bin laden were dead. We can take precautions (i.e. security on flights, searches for bombs, arresting bin laden and al qaeda members etc) but without severly infringing the rights of human beings we can not entirely prevent them.

no offence to anyone on here but y'all need to stop living in fear of terrorism. IT IS NOT THAT COMMON in western nations. This fear is what people like Bush, Blair and Howard are using to create chaos - just in nations far, far away.

as for an attack on a communications centre - i can see it happening but doubt that there aren't backups in various areas
Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: JTSimon on November 25, 2003, 07:35:36 PM
Not Including Osama, We've caught a good number of top Al Qaeda leaders.

You sound like George W. Bush's spokesperson.

All you need is money to keep Al Qaeda going.
This coming from a college freshman who's never seen Scarface, called himself a pimp, then asked how to get into a girls pants.  ::)

You can't argue with facts

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/asiapcf/south/03/01/pakistan.arrests/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/asiapcf/04/30/pakistan.alqaeda/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/11/21/alqaeda.capture/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/south/09/14/alqaeda.capture/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/06/18/alqaeda.arrest/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/central/01/08/ret.afghan.prisoners/index.html

Ok so I'm a college freshman now  ;D

I never asked how to get into a girls pants I just posted an article for discussion. http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=44238 (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=44238)

I wasn't the pimp you idiot........it was BILL CLINTON the guy in my avatar Pimp Ultra.
You think I'm BoyWonder now because its my current screen name  ;D
If you haven't figured it out all my screen names are different characters.

Pimp Ultra - Bill Clinton
Joe Camel - Jay-Z
Jason Biggs - American Pie dude
Max Powers - Homer Simpson Alias
Kain670 - Guy from Menace to Society
Third AntiChrist - Third AntiChrist
Cast of X-MEN  ;)
BoyWonder - Lloyd Banks
Universemaker314/670 - GOD
Fidayeen - Saddam's Suicide Killers

I'm not American so I'm not into the whole American movie culture...until a couple of months ago the only Scarface I knew about was the rapper.
Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: JTSimon on November 25, 2003, 07:41:03 PM
How many more times do I have to burn you Engel forest boy.

I'm not disputing the facts Al Qaeda members are being captured...but I'm sure they got replacements. Muslim population is 1.48 billion...They got enough fanatics to keep it going.

All they need is money flow.
Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: smerlus on November 26, 2003, 02:14:55 PM
you're right, terrorism can't be eliminated all together, but it can be controlled. that's what these nations are trying to do. it would be impossible to seek out every last person, but without big terrorist cells, terrorists would have a harder time performing thier acts...

and as for the money issue...terrorism is just like any business around....you need workers, leaders and money.....and these leaders are key to getting the money...these terrorists are funded by so many people and not just any fanatic can convince people thier cause is worth shelling out millions of dollars. they have to have good plans, a good structure and reachable goals.
Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: JTSimon on November 26, 2003, 04:12:44 PM
you're right, terrorism can't be eliminated all together, but it can be controlled. that's what these nations are trying to do. it would be impossible to seek out every last person, but without big terrorist cells, terrorists would have a harder time performing thier acts...

and as for the money issue...terrorism is just like any business around....you need workers, leaders and money.....and these leaders are key to getting the money...these terrorists are funded by so many people and not just any fanatic can convince people thier cause is worth shelling out millions of dollars. they have to have good plans, a good structure and reachable goals.

How has America controlled terrorism? It seems impossible to me unless they kick out each Muslim and stop handing out student visas to Muslim states i.e. Saudi Arabia ;)

Plus you all need to admit United States = #1 terrorist in the world.


Oh and there is no such thing as a big terrorist cells...thats why it is called a cell 2 a : a one-room dwelling occupied by a solitary person (as a hermit) b : a single room (as in a convent or prison) usually for one person
3 : a small compartment, cavity, or bounded space: as a : one of the compartments of a honeycomb
and they use hotmail accounts to plan attacks  ;D isn't that funny.





Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: smerlus on November 26, 2003, 05:47:04 PM
you're right, terrorism can't be eliminated all together, but it can be controlled. that's what these nations are trying to do. it would be impossible to seek out every last person, but without big terrorist cells, terrorists would have a harder time performing thier acts...

and as for the money issue...terrorism is just like any business around....you need workers, leaders and money.....and these leaders are key to getting the money...these terrorists are funded by so many people and not just any fanatic can convince people thier cause is worth shelling out millions of dollars. they have to have good plans, a good structure and reachable goals.

How has America controlled terrorism? It seems impossible to me unless they kick out each Muslim and stop handing out student visas to Muslim states i.e. Saudi Arabia ;)

Plus you all need to admit United States = #1 terrorist in the world.


Oh and there is no such thing as a big terrorist cells...thats why it is called a cell 2 a : a one-room dwelling occupied by a solitary person (as a hermit) b : a single room (as in a convent or prison) usually for one person
3 : a small compartment, cavity, or bounded space: as a : one of the compartments of a honeycomb
and they use hotmail accounts to plan attacks  ;D isn't that funny.







~terrorism is controllable....before al qaeda's attacks, you had maybe one or two attacks in 5 years....that's better than 1-3 in a year.

~ and from your definition you're calling terrorist cells, small rooms....as in jail cell...that's an intelligent arguement....me thinks you should spend more time with a dictionary and less time on the internet. using the word terrorist cell means that society refers to terrorism, as a whole, as an organ or organism and we all know that organs are made of cells, and cells themselves are made of parts....so cells would be groups of terrorists and the parts of the cells are the terrorists themselves... while of course there aren't any huge cells of 90000 terrorist, catching the larger ones will prove useful. an example of one such catch is the Lackawanna 6, not too far from where i live.



~also calling america terrorists....

terrorist

\Ter"ror*ist\, n. [F. terroriste.] One who governs by terrorism or intimidation; specifically, an agent or partisan of the revolutionary tribunal during the Reign of Terror in France. --Burke.

since when does bush or even the US govern by fear?

now we will define terrorism:

ter·ror·ism    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (tr-rzm)
n.
The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

and since when has america used UNLAWFUL force or violence?



Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: JTSimon on November 26, 2003, 05:55:06 PM
you're right, terrorism can't be eliminated all together, but it can be controlled. that's what these nations are trying to do. it would be impossible to seek out every last person, but without big terrorist cells, terrorists would have a harder time performing thier acts...

and as for the money issue...terrorism is just like any business around....you need workers, leaders and money.....and these leaders are key to getting the money...these terrorists are funded by so many people and not just any fanatic can convince people thier cause is worth shelling out millions of dollars. they have to have good plans, a good structure and reachable goals.

How has America controlled terrorism? It seems impossible to me unless they kick out each Muslim and stop handing out student visas to Muslim states i.e. Saudi Arabia ;)

Plus you all need to admit United States = #1 terrorist in the world.


Oh and there is no such thing as a big terrorist cells...thats why it is called a cell 2 a : a one-room dwelling occupied by a solitary person (as a hermit) b : a single room (as in a convent or prison) usually for one person
3 : a small compartment, cavity, or bounded space: as a : one of the compartments of a honeycomb
and they use hotmail accounts to plan attacks  ;D isn't that funny.







~terrorism is controllable....before al qaeda's attacks, you had maybe one or two attacks in 5 years....that's better than 1-3 in a year.

~ and from your definition you're calling terrorist cells, small rooms....as in jail cell...that's an intelligent arguement....me thinks you should spend more time with a dictionary and less time on the internet. using the word terrorist cell means that society refers to terrorism, as a whole, as an organ or organism and we all know that organs are made of cells, and cells themselves are made of parts....so cells would be groups of terrorists and the parts of the cells are the terrorists themselves... while of course there aren't any huge cells of 90000 terrorist, catching the larger ones will prove useful. an example of one such catch is the Lackawanna 6, not too far from where i live.



~also calling america terrorists....

terrorist

\Ter"ror*ist\, n. [F. terroriste.] One who governs by terrorism or intimidation; specifically, an agent or partisan of the revolutionary tribunal during the Reign of Terror in France. --Burke.

since when does bush or even the US govern by fear?

now we will define terrorism:

ter·ror·ism    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (tr-rzm)
n.
The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

and since when has america used UNLAWFUL force or violence?


lol I gave you the defintion for a cell not a terrorist cell  ;D smart guy.

That is why cell is in bold Joe Blow.

Damn you Engle Trauma are all one of a kind  :P

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The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

^Sounds like an American invasion in Iraq.




Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: 7even on November 27, 2003, 11:51:42 AM
The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

yipyup, that's the invasion in iraq.

aand.. bush does govern by fear..the american population is put into big fear... fear of terrorism e.g.
Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: smerlus on November 27, 2003, 09:42:23 PM
The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

yipyup, that's the invasion in iraq.

aand.. bush does govern by fear..the american population is put into big fear... fear of terrorism e.g.


the UN gave iraq a deadline which it didn't meet and since the some of the UN is a bunch of bluffing, peace loving hippies the US, britain and some other countries decided to back up the UN's threat....you guys may not like it but it is a lawful war....and how are we coercing thier government when we're letting the people decide who wants to rule them?

and you're also saying the bush governs us by fear of terrorists? that's the dumbest thing i've heard all day.....if people are afraid, then they are afraid of terrorists not bush....i can safely board planes everyday for the rest of my life and not have to worry about president bush coming on my plane and hijacking the crew with a boxcutter

these are webster's definitions and so far i've proven that america isn't a terrorist country. so keep being afraid of us anyways...it's understandable

Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: Primo on November 27, 2003, 09:46:27 PM
Real Muslims are cool but the extremist ones can lick my balls because i hope my friends in Iraq torture the shit outta you.
Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: 7even on November 28, 2003, 09:07:21 AM
The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

yipyup, that's the invasion in iraq.

aand.. bush does govern by fear..the american population is put into big fear... fear of terrorism e.g.


the UN gave iraq a deadline which it didn't meet and since the some of the UN is a bunch of bluffing, peace loving hippies the US, britain and some other countries decided to back up the UN's threat....you guys may not like it but it is a lawful war....and how are we coercing thier government when we're letting the people decide who wants to rule them?

and you're also saying the bush governs us by fear of terrorists? that's the dumbest thing i've heard all day.....if people are afraid, then they are afraid of terrorists not bush....i can safely board planes everyday for the rest of my life and not have to worry about president bush coming on my plane and hijacking the crew with a boxcutter

these are webster's definitions and so far i've proven that america isn't a terrorist country. so keep being afraid of us anyways...it's understandable



lol you frequently understand ppl wrong intentionally. but if that's workin out for you, keep it up fella.
Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: JTSimon on November 28, 2003, 09:25:55 AM
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lol you frequently understand ppl wrong intentionally. but if that's workin out for you, keep it up fella.



^Word...I just gave up.
Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: smerlus on November 28, 2003, 01:14:51 PM
The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

yipyup, that's the invasion in iraq.

aand.. bush does govern by fear..the american population is put into big fear... fear of terrorism e.g.


the UN gave iraq a deadline which it didn't meet and since the some of the UN is a bunch of bluffing, peace loving hippies the US, britain and some other countries decided to back up the UN's threat....you guys may not like it but it is a lawful war....and how are we coercing thier government when we're letting the people decide who wants to rule them?

and you're also saying the bush governs us by fear of terrorists? that's the dumbest thing i've heard all day.....if people are afraid, then they are afraid of terrorists not bush....i can safely board planes everyday for the rest of my life and not have to worry about president bush coming on my plane and hijacking the crew with a boxcutter

these are webster's definitions and so far i've proven that america isn't a terrorist country. so keep being afraid of us anyways...it's understandable



lol you frequently understand ppl wrong intentionally. but if that's workin out for you, keep it up fella.

i see you can't prove those statements wrong so i guess it's better for you to give up since you already lost
Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: 7even on November 28, 2003, 01:53:51 PM
im not messin wit you. I cant lose. im just tha man and Im fuckin around witchu till you tired :D
Title: Re:Al Qaeda Threat? Countdown underway?! Muslims Urged to Leave the US
Post by: smerlus on November 28, 2003, 02:54:57 PM
i don't get tired, i'm a vampire and i stay up all hours of the night....plus my room is pitchblack so that no sun gets in