West Coast Connection Forum
Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: CWalker187 on September 18, 2002, 05:38:36 PM
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I have to admit, I find it unbelievable that some of you people have referred to Islam as a "religion of peace" or have said that it is the world's "most complete religion". In my opinion, Islam is not a religion of peace. Instead, I firmly believe that Islam is the most oppressive, hateful, violent, and intolerant religion to ever exist.
Take a look around the world. Wherever there is Christianity, there is peace, prosperity, freedom, and tolerance. Wherever there is Islam, there is violence, poverty, oppression, and intolerance. Why is it that Muslims cannot get along with any other religion? They are the only group in the world currently fighting wars against Jews, Christians, Hindus, and even other Muslims. Why is it that whenever the number of Muslims gets large enough in any country, they usually attempt to overthrow the existing government and impose oppressive Islamic law on the whole region? Take a look at Indonesia, Phillipines, Malaysia, Chechyna, etc....its happening in all of those countries. In Nigeria the Muslims recently took power and imposed Islamic law and they are currently oppressing the Christians and commiting barbaric acts like burying a woman up to her head in sand and stoning her to death for adultery.
That is not all either. In the Sudan, Muslim slave traders are still buying and selling Christian slaves......in the year 2002! And we all know about the primitive treatment of women in the Islamic world. Not being allowed to vote, not being allowed to be drive, not being allowed to be educated, having to cover themselves from head to foot, etc. It is absolutely disgusting.
Probably the worst thing of course is the terrorism commited by Muslims. If we didn't believe it before, we all learned about it on September 11th. Can you imagine driving planes into skyscrapers in an effort to kill as many innocent people as possible for no other reason than hatred? What about strapping bombs to your body and walking into a pizzaeria filled with children and blowing them up? Then there are people who take to the streets and begin celebrating when they hear news of the latest murderous bombing.
Does any other group commit these unspeakable and unimaginable acts besides Muslims? I don't think so. Plenty of groups have fought wars or sought independence from another country, but none of them have ever resorted to despicable lows such as killing innocent citizens for no reason but hatred.
Islam a religion of peace? I think not.
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ummmm, ohhhh k, yea.......Shut tha Fucc Up now......Proceed wit a dicc in yo mouth, Stereotypical Faggot......How U gonna speak on tha whole religion like that? Kids ::)
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What is so righteous about America and Christianity? How was the killing of 140,000 innocent Japanese with the atom bomb a righteous act? You say Islamic countries are the only place you see oppression. Tell that to the black man in America. 30% of African slaves taken here to America were Muslims. Yet, they were forced to worship Christianity, stripped of their name and religion. Constantine won many thousands, millions of Christian converts by expanding his empire with the sword. Tell it to the Native American that wherever there is Christianity there is peace, prosperity, freedom, and tolerance. Even the riots in 1993 in Los Angeles were a race War against an amorphous oppressor.
It only appears to you that these places are violent, when in reality America is killing more then these Islamic countries. Isreali Jews have killed thousands more then Palestine Muslims have!!!!! You are getting lopsided coverage in the media. Many of these Muslim countries are poor, destitute, and having their resources sucked dry by the Western Worlds global economy. And then when someone like Ummar Quadafia of Libya, or Sani Abachi of Nigeria, wants to control the distribution of their oil and resources, and they take up arms against those trying to steal their land or resources, they are called violent, and we are called peaceful. But what is the real story?
Yes, struggle is prescribed for a Muslim. This may be a Jihad or struggle with ones self or ones attacker. Islam does make allowances for one to take up arms against an oppressor. Those Muslim siucide bombers honestly believe that those people they bomb are their oppressor. Now, maybe they are oppressors, maybe they are not. I can just tell you what it says in the Qu'ran. The Qu'ran does not tell you to turn the other cheek to oppression. But it does say that Allah is with those who restrain themselves, and that a Muslim is never supposed to be the aggressor.
Muhammad never killed any women and children. Muhammad's uncle would never convert to Islam, even after Muhammad pleaded to his uncle to just whisper the Shahada in his ear. Still, Muhammad loved his uncle very much, whether he was Muslim or not a Muslim. Muhammad made peace treaty's with Non-Muslim governments and country's. Even when those treaties were a great burden to Muslims he did so for peace. He does not wish to spread the religion through the sword.
To say the Qu'ran says Muslims are supposed to kill everyone not in their religion is false. At one point it says to kill the infidels, but that is because they were at battle during that revelation from Allah. There are peaceful parts of the Qu'ran, revealed at times of peace. And violent parts of the Qu'ran revealed at times of battle. Islam covers all facets of life, and this includes militarily. Allah put one heart in man. We do not follow the rules of Allah for religion and then follow the rules of George Bush for War. Althought their are many Muslims in the US military. One of my good Muslim friends here in KC is in the military. Because he believes that the terrorists are killing innocent people who aren't oppressors. But the terrorists believe that these people are there oppressor. Do you see the difference?
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LMAO. That was some funny shit. At first I was like...WTF???
Your post wasn't makin any sense. Then I started thinking maybe your not from an English speaking country or maybe you just mispelled a word or two. So I read it over again, taking the latter into consideration. Then it hit me...Duhhh.
You mispelled CAPITALISM...now it makes sense.
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i guess he's just makin fun of y'all.
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i forgot to mention the middle ages, the crusades and colonialism. christianity is indeed a very peaceful and tolerant religion ::) ::)
Seriously, You ought to get some insight into post-colonial studies ....
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Word to Infinite. There are many more important things than a country's religion that make it what it is. And as for that christians were those who exploited as good as every country in the world and many are still in the aftermath of colonialism today, many still get exploited. Christian countries got rich off of others. And for the record I ain't muslim
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Word to Infinite. There are many more important things than a country's religion that make it what it is. And as for that christians were those who exploited as good as every country in the world and many are still in the aftermath of colonialism today, many still get exploited. Christian countries got rich off of others. And for the record I ain't muslim
Thanks.... and moreover.... Britian colonized Africa and India and sucked both of those country's dry for years. And what religion was Hitler and the Nazi's? Stalin didn't need a religion to practice oppression. Neither did Mao in China. Non-Muslim groups have been killing and oppressing since the begining of time.
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LOL this the first time i feel what ur sayin infinite...white boys HAVE dont a lot of opression and shit themselves, just what many muslims terrorists are tryin to do..the only thing is that whites were successful and now they believe in "equality" and "peace" now that they're on top lol..but at least the whites dont force their religions down the throats of the ppl they counquer like most muslims in the last present and future will do...
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at least the whites dont force their religions down the throats of the ppl they counquer like most muslims in the last present and future will do...
so the forced conversion of Native Americans and African slaves mean nothing to u? Or the work of Missionaries in Third World countries?
You mention Muslims around the world. Well, think about this, in all these conflicts, the Muslims are oppressed.
In Chechnya they're oppressed
In Kashmir they're oppressed
In Palestine, they're oppressed
In their own countires Muslims are oppressed, because of their puppet regimes controlled by the West
You mention Islamic revolutions taking over govts?
Needless to say u conviniently forgot to mention that the majority of these cases involve a tyranical West controlled regime that is suppressing its own people, in this state of anger and frustration, the people will react and react violently.
For example, the islamic revolution in Iran. People tend to forget that the US run Shah was a dictator, an Absolute Monarchists who oppressed the Islamic nature and culture in his own country. His secret police SAVAK ran amok amongst the people.
As for Tyranical Govts in Muslims countries, only a fool will believe that Saddam, Sukarno, Turkeys Miliraty generals are true Muslims, they're all either secular West influenced or socialists.
Peace
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so the forced conversion of Native Americans and African slaves mean nothing to u? Or the work of Missionaries in Third World countries?
You mention Muslims around the world. Well, think about this, in all these conflicts, the Muslims are oppressed.
In Chechnya they're oppressed
In Kashmir they're oppressed
In Palestine, they're oppressed
In their own countires Muslims are oppressed, because of their puppet regimes controlled by the West
You mention Islamic revolutions taking over govts?
Needless to say u conviniently forgot to mention that the majority of these cases involve a tyranical West controlled regime that is suppressing its own people, in this state of anger and frustration, the people will react and react violently.
For example, the islamic revolution in Iran. People tend to forget that the US run Shah was a dictator, an Absolute Monarchists who oppressed the Islamic nature and culture in his own country. His secret police SAVAK ran amok amongst the people.
As for Tyranical Govts in Muslims countries, only a fool will believe that Saddam, Sukarno, Turkeys Miliraty generals are true Muslims, they're all either secular West influenced or socialists.
Peace
WORD! Furthermore, in Russia not too long ago Muslims were being heavily persecuted for their religion. The national religion in Russia is atheism.
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the forced conversion of native americans(im not even sure if they were really converted to a large degree) and blacks were done by one small region of the world, america...Christians didnt force their religion down anyones throats anywhere else...mostly with ppl they believed were a "backwards" or lower race...i mean they viewed indians and middleasterners as lower too but not as much as native american indians and esp. blacks. But muslims on the other hand, anytime in history, ...whenever they have taken over a land, they give the ppl of the conquered land three choices, pay higher taxes(usually a lot higher wit intolerant rulers), die, or convert...thats fucked up...and especially in Kashmir they took away the tax part back when muslims invaded KASHMIR...so Kashmiri Hindus(which were 100% percent of the population back then...i mean this goes back even beyond terrorists and everything)...hindus had a choice to die or convert...the few who wanted to live as hindus had a hard time living and surviving, and that's why the Kashmiri Hindus are so few in number and are the highest caste in the Hindu caste system(the'yre all bhramins)
OK in chechnya or palestine they might be opressed, but DOGG muslims aint opressed in Kashmir...the HINDUS are opressed in kashmir...killed by the fuckin terrorists, shit most of the hindus had to flee the Kashmir valley when the fuckin terrorists announced that all hindus would be killed in 1989...and since then the hindu population is almost nonexistant there...yeah there is the indian army there but they're there to protect Indias land, which is their right...the terrorists are jus pathetic, killin their ppl-indias not intentionally killing or opressing no hindus nigga. So dont say that in Kashmir muslims are opressed cuz India is a very tolerant country unlike many islamic religious states...like many indian ppl say to argue on behlf of da kashmir issue..india has more muslims than pakistan and they are legally equal to hindus in india, so why should kashmir go to pakistan??? fuck that shit dogg u dont know
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Islam is definitely a religion of peace. Make sure you know what your talking abiut before you speka on it.
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Islam is definitely a religion of peace. Make sure you know what your talking abiut before you speka on it.
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What the hell is peaceful about Islam?
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promotion of brotherhood, eternal love, tolerance of other faiths (fuck what ya heard) etc etc
You're blinded my hate, my words have no effect
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tolerance of other faiths
You can't be serious?
You're blinded my hate, my words have no effect
Man I don't hate anybody, I am just stating the facts about Islam.
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i have to agree and disagree with both sides here
islam as a whole is NOT a peaceful religion but then again neither is christianity
BUT it is pretty rediculous to bring christianity down to the level of what over all bad islamic people have done which outweighs the 'christian evil' 10 times fold, that's fact
now imo i believe anyone who misrepresents their religion isn't really apart of that religion all those terrorists arn't real muslums and all those people who forced blacks to worship christianity were a small percent of christians at that time and wern't even real born again christians becase they were pretty ignorant to the teachings of the bible and what it says about slavery (whic it makes clear that christianity is anti slave)
so all and all those acts both of y'all are talking about are and were commited by ......posers, fakes, wolves in sheep's clothing
BUT you cannot ignore the fact that their is more peace and overall comradery in the mostly christian nations such as America
Canada
UK
ect.
whereas you look at places like the middle east that is jam packed with muslum law.....and you got.....well the middle east
so that's one small reason why i believe christianity is the true religion amongst other reasons.
and by the way any one who brings up the christian crusades /forced christian beleifs upon blacks and indians.......SERIOUSLY needs to study what the muslums did in spain ....serious
now i don't care what religion you follow as long as you don't go around thinking your better than me becuase you don't eat pork....cuz i don't think i'm better than you, i believe that chritianity is the true religion ......and if you disagree with me i don't don't care . If you think islam is the true relgion , great follow what you believe is true and quit judging others without judging yourself first.
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BUT it is pretty rediculous to bring christianity down to the level of what over all bad islamic people have done which outweighs the 'christian evil' 10 times fold, that's fact
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lol. I gotta repeat: have you ever heard of the Middle Ages, the crusades and colonialism? Please attend lessons in medieval history and post colonial studies...... Christianity has shaped the world we're livin in and it still does.
now imo i believe anyone who misrepresents their religion isn't really apart of that religion all those terrorists arn't real muslums and all those people who forced blacks to worship christianity were a small percent of christians at that time and wern't even real born again christians becase they were pretty ignorant to the teachings of the bible and what it says about slavery (whic it makes clear that christianity is anti slave)
lol again. Didn't Abraham own slaves?
so all and all those acts both of y'all are talking about are and were commited by ......posers, fakes, wolves in sheep's clothing.
nope. they were committed by respected men. face it.
BUT you cannot ignore the fact that their is more peace and overall comradery in the mostly christian nations such as America
Canada
UK
ect.
whereas you look at places like the middle east that is jam packed with muslum law.....and you got.....well the middle east.
you should get some knowledge about the impact of enlightenment and capitalism.
so that's one small reason why i believe christianity is the true religion amongst other reasons. .
that comment is one of the reasons why I feel ashamed of being a Christian. The term "the true religion" implies that all the other religions are "fake". That's not what Christianity is about. Christianity is not about true or fake, it's about unconditional love.
and by the way any one who brings up the christian crusades /forced christian beleifs upon blacks and indians.......SERIOUSLY needs to study what the muslums did in spain ....serious.
lol. get some insight into history man. it's hilarious. you can't even compare these fields of history.
now i don't care what religion you follow as long as you don't go around thinking your better than me becuase you don't eat pork....cuz i don't think i'm better than you, i believe that chritianity is the true religion
see above
.....and if you disagree with me i don't don't care.
yeah. you don't don't care..... I can see it.
. If you think islam is the true relgion , great follow what you believe is true and quit judging others without judging yourself first.
Ain't you the one who can't even face the fact that the Middle Ages were worse than all the things Muslims have ever done to the world? I'm a Christian and I have to deal with it. I don't like Saddam, religious extremists and all those other idiots - no matter whether they're Christians, Jews or Muslims. It's my life and I'm tired of being talked into that some religions are evil, fake, etc. and others are not. It's all about power.
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promotion of brotherhood, eternal love, tolerance of other faiths (fuck what ya heard) etc etc
You're blinded my hate, my words have no effect
tolerance of other faiths - exactly. That's a major difference between Christianity and Islam.
P.S. I'm not talking about how the things are handled in reality, but in theory (according to the Qu'ran) Islam is the most tolerant Abrahamitic religion.
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How come when a christian murders someone the fact that he's a christian bears no relevance whatsoever, but when a Muslim murders someone his religion is somehow worse for that?
C Walker you're confused lol
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How come when a christian murders someone the fact that he's a christian bears no relevance whatsoever, but when a Muslim murders someone his religion is somehow worse for that?
C Walker you're confused lol
cuz Muslims are a minority in the Western world. They're different so let's reduce them to the difference. Divide et impera.
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How come when a christian murders someone the fact that he's a christian bears no relevance whatsoever, but when a Muslim murders someone his religion is somehow worse for that?
C Walker you're confused lol
Because all of these terrorist attacks around the world are being commited by people IN THE NAME OF ALLAH. They are religious extremists commiting acts in the name of Islam. And other Muslims really aren't doing much to condemn these acts.
Another thing, it is pretty lame to use the Crusades an example of Christian intolerance. For God's sake, they were 1,000 years ago.....an entire millenium. Try to at least pick something a little more recent.
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The 'Real' IRA is still commiting terrorist attacks in Britain.
Are they secretly muslim?
There's something more recent for you
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Because all of these terrorist attacks around the world are being commited by people IN THE NAME OF ALLAH. They are religious extremists commiting acts in the name of Islam. And other Muslims really aren't doing much to condemn these acts.
wrong. IRA, ETA, Italian terrorist groups............ the US:
History of US Interventions
Ever since the United States Army massacred 300 Lakotas in 1890, American forces have intervened elsewhere around the globe 100 times. Indeed the United States has sent troops abroad or militarily struck other countries' territory 216 times since independence from Britain. Since 1945 the United States has intervened in more than 20 countries throughout the world.
Since World War II, the United States actually dropped bombs on 23 countries. These include: China 1945-46, Korea 1950-53, China 1950-53, Guatemala 1954, Indonesia 1958, Cuba 1959-60, Guatemala 1960, Congo 1964, Peru 1965, Laos 1964-73, Vietnam 1961-73, Cambodia 1969-70, Guatemala 1967-69, Grenada 1983, Lebanon 1984, Libya 1986, El Salvador 1980s, Nicaragua 1980s, Panama 1989, Iraq 1991-1999, Sudan 1998,
Afghanistan 1998, and Yugoslavia 1999.
Post World War II, the United States has also assisted in over 20 different coups throughout the world, and the CIA was responsible for half a dozen assassinations of political heads of state.
The following is a comprehensive summary of the imperialist strategy of the United States over the span of the past century:
Argentina - 1890 - Troops sent to Buenos Aires to protect business interests.
Chile - 1891 - Marines sent to Chile and clashed with nationalist rebels.
Haiti - 1891 - American troops suppress a revolt by Black workers on United States-claimed Navassa Island.
Hawaii - 1893 - Navy sent to Hawaii to overthrow the independent kingdom - Hawaii annexed by the United States.
Nicaragua - 1894 - Troops occupied Bluefields, a city on the Caribbean Sea, for a month.
China - 1894-95 - Navy, Army, and Marines landed during the Sino-Japanese War.
Korea - 1894-96 - Troops kept in Seoul during the war.
Panama - 1895 - Army, Navy, and Marines landed in the port city of Corinto.
China - 1894-1900 - Troops occupied China during the Boxer Rebellion.
Philippines - 1898-1910 - Navy and Army troops landed after the Philippines fell during the Spanish-American War; 600,000 Filipinos were killed.
Cuba - 1898-1902 - Troops seized Cuba in the Spanish-American War; the United States still maintains troops at Guantanamo Bay today.
Puerto Rico - 1898 - present - Troops seized Puerto Rico in the Spanish-American War and still occupy Puerto Rico today.
Nicaragua - 1898 - Marines landed at the port of San Juan del Sur.
Samoa - 1899 - Troops landed as a result over the battle for succession to the throne.
Panama - 1901-14 - Navy supported the revolution when Panama claimed independence from Colombia. American troops have occupied the Canal Zone since 1901 when construction for the canal began.
Honduras - 1903 - Marines landed to intervene during a revolution.
Dominican Rep 1903-04 - Troops landed to protect American interests during a revolution.
Korea - 1904-05 - Marines landed during the Russo-Japanese War.
Cuba - 1906-09 - Troops landed during an election.
Nicaragua - 1907 - Troops landed and a protectorate was set up.
Honduras - 1907 - Marines landed during Honduras' war with Nicaragua.
Panama - 1908 - Marines sent in during Panama's election.
Nicaragua - 1910 - Marines landed for a second time in Bluefields and Corinto.
Honduras - 1911 - Troops sent in to protect American interests during Honduras' civil war.
China - 1911-41 - Navy and troops sent to China during continuous flare-ups.
Cuba - 1912 - Troops sent in to protect American interests in Havana.
Panama - 1912 - Marines landed during Panama's election.
Honduras - 1912 - Troops sent in to protect American interests.
Nicaragua - 1912-33 - Troops occupied Nicaragua and fought guerrillas during its 20-year civil war.
Mexico - 1913 - Navy evacuated Americans during revolution.
Dominican Rep 1914 - Navy fought with rebels over Santo Domingo.
Mexico - 1914-18 - Navy and troops sent in to intervene against nationalists.
Haiti - 1914-34 - Troops occupied Haiti after a revolution and occupied Haiti for 19 years.
Dominican Rep 1916-24 - Marines occupied the Dominican Republic for eight years.
Cuba - 1917-33 - Troops landed and occupied Cuba for 16 years; Cuba became an economic protectorate.
World War I - 1917-18 - Navy and Army sent to Europe to fight the Axis powers.
Russia - 1918-22 - Navy and troops sent to eastern Russia after the Bolshevik Revolution; Army made five landings.
Honduras - 1919 - Marines sent during Honduras' national elections.
Guatemala - 1920 - Troops occupied Guatemala for two weeks during a union strike.
Turkey - 1922 - Troops fought nationalists in Smyrna.
China - 1922-27 - Navy and Army troops deployed during a nationalist revolt.
Honduras - 1924-25 - Troops landed twice during a national election.
Panama - 1925 - Troops sent in to put down a general strike.
China - 1927-34 - Marines sent in and stationed for seven years throughout China.
El Salvador - 1932 - Naval warships deployed during the FMLN revolt under Marti.
World War II - 1941-45 - Military fought the Axis powers: Japan, Germany, and Italy.
Yugoslavia - 1946 - Navy deployed off the coast of Yugoslavia in response to the downing of an American plane.
Uruguay - 1947 - Bombers deployed as a show of military force.
Greece - 1947-49 - United States operations insured a victory for the far right in national "elections."
Germany - 1948 - Military deployed in response to the Berlin blockade; the Berlin airlift lasts 444 days.
Philippines - 1948-54 - The CIA directed a civil war against the Filipino Huk revolt.
Puerto Rico - 1950 - Military helped crush an independence rebellion in Ponce.
Korean War - 1951-53 - Military sent in during the war.
Iran - 1953 - The CIA orchestrated the overthrow of democratically elected Mossadegh and restored the Shah to power.
Vietnam - 1954 - The United States offered weapons to the French in the battle against Ho Chi Minh and the Viet Minh.
Guatemala - 1954 - The CIA overthrew the democratically elected Arbenz and placed Colonel Armas in power.
Egypt - 1956 - Marines deployed to evacuate foreigners after Nasser nationalized the Suez Canal.
Lebanon - 1958 - Navy supported an Army occupation of Lebanon during its civil war.
Panama - 1958 - Troops landed after Panamanians demonstrations threatened the Canal Zone.
Vietnam - 1950s-75 - Vietnam War.
Cuba - 1961 - The CIA-directed Bay of Pigs invasions failed to overthrow the Castro government.
Cuba - 1962 - The Navy quarantines Cuba during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Laos - 1962 - Military occupied Laos during its civil war against the Pathet Lao guerrillas.
Panama - 1964 - Troops sent in and Panamanians shot while protesting the United States presence in the Canal Zone.
Indonesia - 1965 - The CIA orchestrated a military coup.
Dominican Rep- 1965-66 - Troops deployed during a national election.
Guatemala - 1966-67 - Green Berets sent in.
Cambodia - 1969-75 - Military sent in after the Vietnam War expanded into Cambodia.
Oman - 1970 - Marines landed to direct a possible invasion into Iran.
Laos - 1971-75 - Americans carpet-bomb the countryside during Laos' civil war.
Chile - 1973 - The CIA orchestrated a coup, killing President Allende who had been popularly elected. The CIA helped to establish a military regime under General Pinochet.
Cambodia - 1975 - Twenty-eight Americans killed in an effort to retrieve the crew of the Mayaquez, which had been seized.
Angola - 1976-92 - The CIA backed South African rebels fighting against Marxist Angola.
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Iran - 1980 - Americans aborted a rescue attempt to liberate 52 hostages seized in the Teheran embassy.
Libya - 1981 - American fighters shoot down two Libyan fighters.
El Salvador - 1981-92 - The CIA, troops, and advisers aid in El Salvador's war against the FMLN.
Nicaragua - 1981-90 - The CIA and NSC directed the Contra War against the Sandinistas.
Lebanon - 1982-84 - Marines occupied Beirut during Lebanon's civil war; 241 were killed in the American barracks and Reagan "redeployed" the troops to the
Mediterranean.
Honduras - 1983-89 - Troops sent in to build bases near the Honduran border.
Grenada - 1983-84 - American invasion overthrew the Maurice Bishop government.
Iran - 1984 - American fighters shot down two Iranian planes over the Persian Gulf.
Libya - 1986 - American fighters hit targets in and around the capital city of Tripoli.
Bolivia - 1986 - The Army assisted government troops on raids of cocaine areas.
Iran - 1987-88 - The United States intervened on the side of Iraq during the Iran-Iraq War.
Libya - 1989 - Navy shot down two more Libyan jets.
Virgin Islands - 1989 - Troops landed during unrest among Virgin Island peoples.
Philippines - 1989 - Air Force provided air cover for government during coup.
Panama - 1989-90 - 27,000 Americans landed in overthrow of President Noriega; over 2,000 Panama civilians were killed.
Liberia - 1990 - Troops entered Liberia to evacuate foreigners during civil war.
Saudi Arabia - 1990-91 - American troops sent to Saudi Arabia, which was a staging area in the war against Iraq.
Kuwait - 1991 - Troops sent into Kuwait to turn back Saddam Hussein.
Somalia - 1992-94 - Troops occupied Somalia during civil war.
Bosnia - 1993-95 - Air Force jets bombed "no-fly zone" during civil war in Yugoslavia.
Haiti - 1994-96 - American troops and Navy provided a blockade against Haiti's military government. The CIA restored Aristide to power.
Zaire - 1996-97 - Marines sent into Rwanda Hutus' refugee camps in the area where the Congo revolution began.
Albania - 1997 - Troops deployed during evacuation of foreigners.
Sudan - 1998 - American missiles destroyed a pharmaceutical complex where alleged nerve gas components were manufactured.
Afghanistan - 1998 - Missiles launched towards alleged Afghan terrorist training camps.
Yugoslavia - 1999 - Bombings and missile attacks carried out by the United States in conjunction with NATO in the 11 week war against Milosevic.
Iraq - 1998-2001 - Missiles launched into Baghdad and other large Iraq cities for four days. American jets enforced "no-fly zone" and continued to hit Iraqi targets since December 1998.
These **100** instances of American military intervention did not include times when the United States:
(1) deployed military police overseas;
(2) mobilized the National Guard;
(3) sent Navy ships off the coast of numerous
countries as a show of strength;
(4) sent additional troops to areas where Americans
were already stationed;
(5) carried out covert actions where American forces
were not under the direct rule of an American command;
(6) used small hostage rescue units;
(7) used American pilots to fly foreign planes;
(8) carried out military training and advisory
programs which did not involve direct combat.
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U. S. Government Assassination Plots
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Following is a list of prominent foreign leaders whose assassination (or planning for same) the United States has been involved in since the end of Second World War. The list does not include several assassinations in various parts of the world carried out by anti-Castro Cubans employed by CIA and headquartered in the United States:
LIST A: NON MUSLIMS
1949 - Kim Koo, Korean opposition leader
1950's - CIA/Neo-Nazi hit list of numerous political figures in West Germany
1955 - Jose' Antonio Remon, President of Panama
1950's Chou En-lai, Prime Minister of China, several attempts on his life
1951 - Kim Il Sung, Premiere of North Korea
1950s (mid) - Claro M. Recto, Philippines opposition leader
1955 - Jawar Lal Nehru, Prime Minister of India
1959 and 1963 - Norodom Sihanouk, leader of Cambodia
1950s-70s - Jose Figueres, President of Costa Rica, two attempts on his life
1961 - Francois "Papa Doc"Duvalier, leader of Haiti
1961 - Patrice Lumumba , Prime Minister of Congo (Zaire)
1961 - Gen. Rafael Trujillo, leader of Dominican Republic
1963 - Ngo Dinh Diem, President of South Vietnam
1960s - Fidel Castro, President of Cuba, more than 15 attempts on his life
1960s - Raul Castro, high official in government of Cuba
1965 - Francisco Caamanao, Dominican Republic opposition leader
1965 - Pierre Ngendandumwe, Prime Minister of Burundi
1965-6 - Charles de Gaulle, President of France
1967 - Che Guevara, Cuban leader
1970 - Salvadore Allende, President of Chile
1970 - General Rene Schneider, Commander-in-Chief of Army, Chile
1970s and 1981 - Gen. Omar Torrijos, leader of Panama
1972 - General Manuel Noriega, Chief of Panama Intelligence
1975 - Mobutu Sese Seko, President of Zaire
1976 - Michael Manley, Prime Minister of Jamaica
1983 - Miguel d'Escoto, Foreign Minister of Nicaragua
1984 - The nine commandantes of the Sandanista National Directorate
1980's - Dr. Gerald Bull, Canadian Ballistics Scientist assassinated by Mossad in Belgium.
Partial List of Muslim Leaders Assassinated or
Attempted Assassinations
1950's Sukarno, President of Indonesia
1957 Gamal Abdul Nasser, President of Egypt
1960 Brigadier General, Abdul Karim Kassem, Leader of Iraq
1980-86 Muammar Qaddafi, Leader of Libya, several plots and attempts upon his life
1982 Ayatullah Khomeini, Leader of Iran
1983 General Ahmed Dlimi, Moroccan army Commander
1985 Sheikh Mohammed Hussein Fadllallah, Lebanese Shiite Leader (80 people killed in that attempt)
1991 Saddam Hussein, Leader of Iraq
Reference: Blum, William, "KILLING HOPE - U.S. Military and
CIA Interventions Since World War II," Appendix III
U.S. Government Assassination Plots, page 453,
Common Courage Press, Monroe, Maine 1995. ISBN 1-56751-052-3
Very likely Victims :
April 4, 1979 - Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, Leader of Pakistan, for pursuing making of Nuclear Bomb.
August, 1988. General Ziaul Haq, Military Leader of Pakistan.
1995 - Murtaza Bhutto, Son of ZUlfiqar Ali Bhutto, Anti-American would-be Leader - Pakistan.
March 25, 1975 - King Faisal of Saudi Arabia through his Nephew, Saudi Arabia for imposing 1973 Oil Embargo.
August 24, 1999. Mullah Mohammad Omar, in Kandhar, Afghanistan.
List of Known Assassination Plots
1950's Sukarno, President of Indonesia
1957 Gamal Abdul Nasser, President
2001 Since early this year more than 40 Palestinian leaders assassinated through surrogate Israel.
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Another thing, it is pretty lame to use the Crusades an example of Christian intolerance. For God's sake, they were 1,000 years ago.....an entire millenium. Try to at least pick something a little more recent.
1000 years ago the Islamic world was more tolerant and open-minded than the US is today. The crusades caused a huge rift between Muslims and Christians.The aftermaths are what we're experiencin today.
As far as colonialism is concerned please read Robinson Crusoe by Daniel Dafoe. This book represents the ideological foundation of colonialism: white upper class man with Protestant background conquers the world and reigns over stupid black man. Furthermore, you might be interested in reading the writings of Edward Said and Derek Walcott and in Post Colonial Studies in general. Christianity has shaped the world we're livin in. Deal with it.
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wrong. IRA, ETA, Italian terrorist groups............
You know what, you guys are right...the IRA is indeed an example of a Christian terrorist group. But you know what else? You would have to be an absolute madman to think that the IRA somehow compares to all of the numerous Islamic terror groups spread throughout the world. It is just a small grain of salt compared to what Islam is doing. Most importantly, you do not see Christians attempting to rationalize or glorify any terrorist commited by the IRA the way you see Muslims rationalizing and glorifyng the things that Islamic terrorist groups do.
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I guess you can consider my religion, Christianity, not peaceful because of the minority or brainwashed and confused who would blow up abortion clinics because they felt it was wrong.
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1000 years ago the Islamic world was more tolerant and open-minded than the US is today. The crusades caused a huge rift between Muslims and Christians.The aftermaths are what we're experiencin today.
You are an idiot. Do you really expect me to believe that the reason Islamic groups are terrorizing people all over the world is because of something that happened over one thousand years ago?
And how can anyone be more open and tolerant of religious groups than the US curently is?
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I guess you can consider my religion, Christianity, not peaceful because of the minority or brainwashed and confused who would blow up abortion clinics because they felt it was wrong.
Are there even alot of abortion clinic bombings? And d Christians go around trying to justify them the way Muslims justify terror?
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You are an idiot. Do you really expect me to believe that the reason Islamic groups are terrorizing people all over the world is because of something that happened over one thousand years ago?
And how can anyone be more open and tolerant of religious groups than
the US curently is?
I'm no idiot, I'm just studying history at university. Please spare me your insults and bring some knowledge to the table.
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Are there even alot of abortion clinic bombings? And d Christians go around trying to justify them the way Muslims justify terror?
yes they do.
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i wouldnt go as far as saying islam is evil...but it doestn represent anything good either....they always tend to justify their violence with their religious beliefs....
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Are there even alot of abortion clinic bombings? And d Christians go around trying to justify them the way Muslims justify terror?
I doubt most Muslims justify terror, but they weren't saddened over what went down. Just like most Christians didn't justify those bombings of abortion clinics, but they weren't exactly grieving over those clinics and the people inside.