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2004 Will Be the U.S.'S Best Year Economically in Last 20 Years, The Conference Board Reports in a Revised Forecast
Thursday December 11, 11:01 am ET
NEW YORK, Dec. 11 /PRNewswire/ -- Revising its year-end economic forecast sharply upward, The Conference Board today projected that real GDP growth will hit 5.7% next year, making 2004 the best year economically in the last 20 years.
The forecast, by Conference Board Chief Economist Gail Fosler, expects worker productivity, which set a 20-year record in the third quarter, to rise at a healthy 3.6% next year. That would follow a gain of 4.3% this year.
The economic forecast is prepared for more than 2,500 corporate members of The Conference Board's global business network, based in 66 nations.
KEY BAROMETERS FLASHING GROWTH
"Growing business spending and continued strength in consumer spending are generating growth throughout the U.S. economy," says Fosler. "This burgeoning strength is reflected in The Conference Board's widely-watched Leading Economic Indicators, the Consumer Confidence Index and the Help-Wanted Advertising Index. While the labor market, a critical factor in sustaining growth, is growing slowly, a pick-up in hiring may already have begun."
Real consumer spending, which continues to fuel growth, will increase at a 4.7% pace next year, up from about 3.2% this year. Another gain of 4.3% is projected for 2005.
While the U.S. economy is expected to generate more than one million new jobs next year, the unemployment rate will edge down only slightly, averaging 5.6% in 2004.
The Conference Board forecast notes that as the U.S. economy bounces back, so is Europe, although growth will be subdued compared to most other major parts of the world. "For all the concern about a weak dollar," says Fosler, "the dollar will be worth more than the euro by the end of the year."
Real capital spending, which will rise by only 2.7% this year, will climb 11.7% next year and another 8.6% in 2005. Pre-tax corporate operating profits will top $1 trillion next year, up from a projected $928 billion this year. Another trillion-dollar-plus gain in profits is expected in 2005.
The continued recovery in business profits, which was a key ingredient in funding new investment (crucial in making 2004 a strong growth year), depends on price relief. Business profits will benefit from both improved volume and recovering profit margins in 2004, as inflation creeps back toward 3% by the end of the year.
Source: Revised Conference Board Economic Forecast
December 2003
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/031211/nyth120_1.html
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HA HA!
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YAY!
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Then the war worked ;D
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I thought we were going to war for Oil?
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I thought we were going to war for Oil?
quote from SNL... Bush... We will go to a bigger war, to pay for the war in Afganistan... lol
Really though, it's about time we start seeing improvement. We had a good thing going, and then massive hits. I need a job, come economy, Marty needs some damn new shoes.
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^ And your mentality is that it's the governments fault you dont' have new shoes. This is why people like you will never be happy with what happens politically in america, unless you're winning in every way, the president isn't doing anything for you.
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your dollaz are drenched in blood
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your dollaz are drenched in blood
Probably. And Germany is the biggest creditor (with France) of a bloodthirsty dictator (now in the hands of USA)
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^ And your mentality is that it's the governments fault you dont' have new shoes. This is why people like you will never be happy with what happens politically in america, unless you're winning in every way, the president isn't doing anything for you.
WTF... man oh man. I wasn't even talking stuff on Bush, and you gonna diss me personally. Dogg, get you head out your ass and leave good enough alone
your dollaz are drenched in blood
So very true, but at the sametime, this country has a history of soaking it's land and dollars in blood. It doesn't matter, because in the future, that's what will happen again.
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Congratulations to America.
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your dollaz are drenched in blood
So very true, but at the sametime, this country has a history of soaking it's land and dollars in blood. It doesn't matter, because in the future, that's what will happen again.
that's no excuse. just because you murdered indians (genocide) and raped and enslaved blacks etc.. you dont have and right to do this bullshit over and over again. or is germany authorized to burn jews just because they did it once? and it doesnt matter then? lol
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^ You show your hypocricy by slamming our past, but ignoring your own. Like you said, Germany doesn't have exactly the most pristine war record. You also know, I'm sure, that there apparently are ties with Germany and Saddam Hussein that were going on during these trade sanctions the U.N. imposed, so even recently Germany has been doing some shady shit. Also, again, I've got to ask: Isn't german porn where they feed women shit? Yall are some sick, sick individuals.
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your dollaz are drenched in blood
So very true, but at the sametime, this country has a history of soaking it's land and dollars in blood. It doesn't matter, because in the future, that's what will happen again.
that's no excuse. just because you murdered indians (genocide) and raped and enslaved blacks etc.. you dont have and right to do this bullshit over and over again. or is germany authorized to burn jews just because they did it once? and it doesnt matter then? lol
I am Native American, it was my people that got killed. It's just a fact of life, the most powerful nations get that way of the blood of others. Look through out history, from Ancient Greece when Athens had the greatest true democracy in human history, they got that way by colonizing other people around them, to Rome's great Empire, to England, France, Germany, Russia, Japan, all were great colonal powers. I personally do not agree, but the truth is, that is the way life is. It's a hard harsh world out there, and even though I don't agree with it, it will never change, because after 6000 years of "civilization" it is still the same way.
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first okf...how are you going to say americans killed all the indians? when people were killing indians there wasn't even an america....the indians had hostilities towards america because that's what some fo the settlers turned into....so the british, spanish and french started the killing of indians.
and once again america had slave....yep you're right, every single person in america had 5 or six of them...that was just part of america...and the other part stood up for blacks and went to war over it...
now lets look at lovely germany.....you'd still be tossing jews in ovens like they were biscuits if OTHER nations didn't step in.
we do some fucked up shit but at least we try and fix it
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oh and bloody money spends just the same so oh well
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I thought we were going to war for Oil?
quote from SNL... Bush... We will go to a bigger war, to pay for the war in Afganistan... lol
Really though, it's about time we start seeing improvement. We had a good thing going, and then massive hits. I need a job, come economy, Marty needs some damn new shoes.
lol at blaming being jobless on the economy...homie...it isnt hard to find a job at all...all these people going "oh its so hard to find a job, god damn economy, blah blah blah"...the fuck it is hard to find a job...i found a job the first day i went out job hunting. its not about finding a job its about knowing how to get one. you can't just turn in an application and expect a fuckin job...it doesnt work that way...you gotta work to get a job.
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first okf...how are you going to say americans killed all the indians? when people were killing indians there wasn't even an america....the indians had hostilities towards america because that's what some fo the settlers turned into....so the british, spanish and french started the killing of indians.
The people who are now Americans did kill Indians. And in other nations in the Americas, there is still a large Native popluation, Mexico, Brazil, Peru, El Salvidor. Only the United States and Argentina have completely killed off most their Native population. The French, English, yeah they killed too. But when the United States was expaining west, after this nation was formed, they killed Indians flat out. Or if they didn't kill Native, they killed the buffalo, which Natives in the mid-west used as a great food suply. And of course Native became hostle, though not always like that, they became hostle after they realized that their land was being taken. An ironic quote from a Indian who was in the battle in which Gen. Custer was killed. "I smelled blood, but I did not feel guilty... I am defending my country." It is easy to think of this country as a white mans nation, the reality is that it was the red man's first.
Also, when it came time for the Civil War, it was over slavery. The thing is that in order to get people to fight, they had to tell them it was more than that. The south was very honest, they believed whole heartly that white people were superiour, and that they needed to fight for slavery. The north on the other hand fought to keep the union together, not because of slavery. Abe Lincoln himself did not question white supremicy, but did feel inslaving people was wrong. Though he did say that if saving the union meet freeing slaves, he'll do it, if saving the union meant keeping slaves, he'll do it, or if saving the union meant keeping some slaves and freeing others, he'll do that too. People, with the exception of a few radical northerns, were not exactly annoxious to fight to free slaves. This is way we learn that the civil war was fought for more than just slavery, but in reality, that's what is what it was fought for. But to gather support, you can't tell people that.
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I thought we were going to war for Oil?
quote from SNL... Bush... We will go to a bigger war, to pay for the war in Afganistan... lol
Really though, it's about time we start seeing improvement. We had a good thing going, and then massive hits. I need a job, come economy, Marty needs some damn new shoes.
lol at blaming being jobless on the economy...homie...it isnt hard to find a job at all...all these people going "oh its so hard to find a job, god damn economy, blah blah blah"...the fuck it is hard to find a job...i found a job the first day i went out job hunting. its not about finding a job its about knowing how to get one. you can't just turn in an application and expect a fuckin job...it doesnt work that way...you gotta work to get a job.
Oh god, it was a joke... ok... joke. I got a job, why would I even worry.I work, what you think I'm some lazy Mexican. I work, get over it. I know about getting a job.
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first okf...how are you going to say americans killed all the indians? when people were killing indians there wasn't even an america....the indians had hostilities towards america because that's what some fo the settlers turned into....so the british, spanish and french started the killing of indians.
The people who are now Americans did kill Indians. And in other nations in the Americas, there is still a large Native popluation, Mexico, Brazil, Peru, El Salvidor. Only the United States and Argentina have completely killed off most their Native population. The French, English, yeah they killed too. But when the United States was expaining west, after this nation was formed, they killed Indians flat out. Or if they didn't kill Native, they killed the buffalo, which Natives in the mid-west used as a great food suply. And of course Native became hostle, though not always like that, they became hostle after they realized that their land was being taken. An ironic quote from a Indian who was in the battle in which Gen. Custer was killed. "I smelled blood, but I did not feel guilty... I am defending my country." It is easy to think of this country as a white mans nation, the reality is that it was the red man's first.
Also, when it came time for the Civil War, it was over slavery. The thing is that in order to get people to fight, they had to tell them it was more than that. The south was very honest, they believed whole heartly that white people were superiour, and that they needed to fight for slavery. The north on the other hand fought to keep the union together, not because of slavery. Abe Lincoln himself did not question white supremicy, but did feel inslaving people was wrong. Though he did say that if saving the union meet freeing slaves, he'll do it, if saving the union meant keeping slaves, he'll do it, or if saving the union meant keeping some slaves and freeing others, he'll do that too. People, with the exception of a few radical northerns, were not exactly annoxious to fight to free slaves. This is way we learn that the civil war was fought for more than just slavery, but in reality, that's what is what it was fought for. But to gather support, you can't tell people that.
i believe that the further killing of indians was due to a big misunderstanding, otherwise the blood thirsty US could have easily took indians off the face of this country....see you go from french, british and spanish, killing your people, then do a name change and everything is suppsed to be fine? attacks were probably just misunderstanding...like stepping into an ant hill, you don't see that the little bastards are trying to defend something, but try to fuck you up...so you kill them.
and finally the northern US was predominantly industrial and didn't rely on slave labor, so like you said, the north didn't give a fuck about theslaves the south had....so if the north was ok with slaves? why would the south try to become thier own country thus causeing a war over seperation? it was because the north didn't believe in the need of slaves and raised taxes to transport slaves.....there's more people fighting for slave freedom then you make people believe....
anyways blacks are free and i don't think it matters how they got free....would you complain about an HIV cure if someone searching for the cure to the common cold found it?
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WTF... so we are ants? I see
Anyways, you have a lot to learn
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Jesus you people are Stupid.
How does this current economic regrowth have anything to do with us taking land from the indians?
LOL, Some people I swear...
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WTF... so we are ants? I see
Anyways, you have a lot to learn
i see you have yet to learn the english language...
analogy
\A*nal"o*gy\, n.; pl. Analogies. [L. analogia, Gr. ?, fr. ?: cf. F. analogie. See Analogous.] 1. A resemblance of relations; an agreement or likeness between things in some circumstances or effects, when the things are otherwise entirely different. Thus, learning enlightens the mind, because it is to the mind what light is to the eye, enabling it to discover things before hidden.
so all along when you heard rappers saying shit such as "i represent cali LIKE governor grey davis" ~ crooked I......you actually thought that crooked i was running for governor?
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Jesus you people are Stupid.
How does this current economic regrowth have anything to do with us taking land from the indians?
LOL, Some people I swear...
if you read the post, you'll see that it sort of flows into the other one way.....such things can happen in conversations...if you don't like it that's your opinion.....you should know better...you have a website called DJ Quik.net and yet you have a big steele interview....
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Jesus you people are Stupid.
How does this current economic regrowth have anything to do with us taking land from the indians?
LOL, Some people I swear...
if you read the post, you'll see that it sort of flows into the other one way.....such things can happen in conversations...if you don't like it that's your opinion.....you should know better...you have a website called DJ Quik.net and yet you have a big steele interview....
LOL!
I wasn't dissin you ! Guess I should now... Ugly!
Have I taken any land from Indians? Have I enslaved any black people? Am I racist?
No. Why should I have to worry about shit that I didn't participate in or support? If your great gandfather killed one of my great grandfathers cows, does that mean I have to hate you for that?
Oh, And considering DJ Quik is gonna be doing track/s on Big Steele's album, I'd say that it's fine that I had an interview with him. What have you done lately?
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Anyways, I can't wait for 2004!
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Jesus you people are Stupid.
How does this current economic regrowth have anything to do with us taking land from the indians?
LOL, Some people I swear...
if you read the post, you'll see that it sort of flows into the other one way.....such things can happen in conversations...if you don't like it that's your opinion.....you should know better...you have a website called DJ Quik.net and yet you have a big steele interview....
LOL!
I wasn't dissin you ! Guess I should now... Ugly!
Have I taken any land from Indians? Have I enslaved any black people? Am I racist?
No. Why should I have to worry about shit that I didn't participate in or support? If your great gandfather killed one of my great grandfathers cows, does that mean I have to hate you for that?
Oh, And considering DJ Quik is gonna be doing track/s on Big Steele's album, I'd say that it's fine that I had an interview with him. What have you done lately?
why thanks for asking, i just cooked up some raviolis and rigatonis...when are you gonna interview THE MAN himself?
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oh and bloody money spends just the same so oh well
shame on you
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your dollaz are drenched in blood
So very true, but at the sametime, this country has a history of soaking it's land and dollars in blood. It doesn't matter, because in the future, that's what will happen again.
that's no excuse. just because you murdered indians (genocide) and raped and enslaved blacks etc.. you dont have and right to do this bullshit over and over again. or is germany authorized to burn jews just because they did it once? and it doesnt matter then? lol
I am Native American, it was my people that got killed. It's just a fact of life, the most powerful nations get that way of the blood of others. Look through out history, from Ancient Greece when Athens had the greatest true democracy in human history, they got that way by colonizing other people around them, to Rome's great Empire, to England, France, Germany, Russia, Japan, all were great colonal powers. I personally do not agree, but the truth is, that is the way life is. It's a hard harsh world out there, and even though I don't agree with it, it will never change, because after 6000 years of "civilization" it is still the same way.
Then you're a coward for refusing to fight what you see as an injustice. If you really believe the world is still like that, do something about it, or you're dishonoring those who fought before you, and your kids that you refused to fight for. AGAIN, you show that you have a pessimistic attitude, which is why you'll never reach your full potential in life.
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I thought we were going to war for Oil?
quote from SNL... Bush... We will go to a bigger war, to pay for the war in Afganistan... lol
Really though, it's about time we start seeing improvement. We had a good thing going, and then massive hits. I need a job, come economy, Marty needs some damn new shoes.
lol at blaming being jobless on the economy...homie...it isnt hard to find a job at all...all these people going "oh its so hard to find a job, god damn economy, blah blah blah"...the fuck it is hard to find a job...i found a job the first day i went out job hunting. its not about finding a job its about knowing how to get one. you can't just turn in an application and expect a fuckin job...it doesnt work that way...you gotta work to get a job.
EXACTLY. Thank you for being responsible enough to realize your destiny is your own, not the governments.
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first okf...how are you going to say americans killed all the indians? when people were killing indians there wasn't even an america....the indians had hostilities towards america because that's what some fo the settlers turned into....so the british, spanish and french started the killing of indians.
The people who are now Americans did kill Indians. And in other nations in the Americas, there is still a large Native popluation, Mexico, Brazil, Peru, El Salvidor. Only the United States and Argentina have completely killed off most their Native population. The French, English, yeah they killed too. But when the United States was expaining west, after this nation was formed, they killed Indians flat out. Or if they didn't kill Native, they killed the buffalo, which Natives in the mid-west used as a great food suply. And of course Native became hostle, though not always like that, they became hostle after they realized that their land was being taken. An ironic quote from a Indian who was in the battle in which Gen. Custer was killed. "I smelled blood, but I did not feel guilty... I am defending my country." It is easy to think of this country as a white mans nation, the reality is that it was the red man's first.
Also, when it came time for the Civil War, it was over slavery. The thing is that in order to get people to fight, they had to tell them it was more than that. The south was very honest, they believed whole heartly that white people were superiour, and that they needed to fight for slavery. The north on the other hand fought to keep the union together, not because of slavery. Abe Lincoln himself did not question white supremicy, but did feel inslaving people was wrong. Though he did say that if saving the union meet freeing slaves, he'll do it, if saving the union meant keeping slaves, he'll do it, or if saving the union meant keeping some slaves and freeing others, he'll do that too. People, with the exception of a few radical northerns, were not exactly annoxious to fight to free slaves. This is way we learn that the civil war was fought for more than just slavery, but in reality, that's what is what it was fought for. But to gather support, you can't tell people that.
So you want it both ways. To further your argument, you surmise that the civil war was fought over slavery (in the south) and not over slavery, but states rights, in the north. Which is it? You're simply wrong, it can't be both. the civil war was fought over state's rights, not over slavery, slavery was simply an issue tied up in the bigger problem of the government deciding how much power to give to the states.
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Jesus you people are Stupid.
How does this current economic regrowth have anything to do with us taking land from the indians?
LOL, Some people I swear...
The world has gone mad, everyone has an entitlement mentality. M Dogg is caught up in what happened to his people 400 YEARS AGO. Why? Because he thinks he can get something out of it, and he wants to start a pity party. Fuck that. I could give a shit what somebody did to somebody else 400 years ago, I didnt' have a damn thing to do with it.
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your dollaz are drenched in blood
So very true, but at the sametime, this country has a history of soaking it's land and dollars in blood. It doesn't matter, because in the future, that's what will happen again.
that's no excuse. just because you murdered indians (genocide) and raped and enslaved blacks etc.. you dont have and right to do this bullshit over and over again. or is germany authorized to burn jews just because they did it once? and it doesnt matter then? lol
I am Native American, it was my people that got killed. It's just a fact of life, the most powerful nations get that way of the blood of others. Look through out history, from Ancient Greece when Athens had the greatest true democracy in human history, they got that way by colonizing other people around them, to Rome's great Empire, to England, France, Germany, Russia, Japan, all were great colonal powers. I personally do not agree, but the truth is, that is the way life is. It's a hard harsh world out there, and even though I don't agree with it, it will never change, because after 6000 years of "civilization" it is still the same way.
Then you're a coward for refusing to fight what you see as an injustice. If you really believe the world is still like that, do something about it, or you're dishonoring those who fought before you, and your kids that you refused to fight for. AGAIN, you show that you have a pessimistic attitude, which is why you'll never reach your full potential in life.
So I should go out fighting all the white people for our land back. Good idea, I'll start in North Carolina, heard very racist Mormons live there. I can take them out, by myself, and then move on the the rest of the nation.
Trauma, I ain't really concern with the past, I am a social studies ed. major through American History, I happen to know A LOT about U.S. history, call it a hobby. Lets face it though, someone says we are spending blood money, shit, we've been spending blood money for hundreds of years. No difference now as it was today. So whatever homie. Also, I got a job, I got a college education, I got everything I need. I really don't care about people like you, who think that people like me will never reach my full potential. I've been told I'll never go to college, did it, I'll never get into AP classes, AP Calc baby, I'll never be a good football player, All league right here, and I was just a goof off in college, graduating homie. You don't know me, so don't judge me. I don't judge you, I really don't care. Don't agree with your politics, I do respect you, but oh well, what ever homie.
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^ M Dogg. M Dogg.
First. When I say 'do something about it', that doesn't mean go kill people. There are other ways to oppose something, besides killing people. Apparently you're not intelligent enough to get anything done without using your fists, but that's not what I was talking about. .
Second, since I destroyed your credibility three times on this thread, you feel the need to say something about my religion. You shouldn't even attempt debating with me anymore, if you have to stoop to that.
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Destoye my cred, how, when you were taking personal shots at me first. Second, I was stating that well yes we got blood money, so does every other rich nation that all these people come from, critizing us. Shit, I said it first, and I called out nations names. I supported your argument. So if you ruined my cred, and you use my arguement to strength yours, what does that do for you.