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Title: America Doesn't Know Her History!!!!!!
Post by: Political Gangsta on September 07, 2002, 01:18:15 PM
Were the people of Germany, who passively, or strongly supported Hitler more ignorant then the people of America are today.  Maybe not.  They were forced into a desperate, impossible situation, which created the product of the Nazi regime.


Similar to what is now going on in Iraq and Cuba, World War 1 left Germany economically strangled.  Devastated by the conditions imposed by the peace treaty.  Large sections of Germany were carved out and handed to Poland.  Another section was carved out to be part of a new nation, created by Woodrow Wilson and Prime Minister Loyd George that didn't even exist before world war 1.  The reperations imposed were impossible to meet.  Germany could no longer be prosperous.  The restrictions enforced upon them made it impossible for them to survive as a country.  Because of these conditions imposed the people of Germany were ripe for someone like Hitler to come along and say, "This is not right!"  These people in Germany were not barbarians or low class primitives.  They fell for Hitler only because of the extreme conditions that existed!!!!!!!!

America refuses to lift it's embargo on Cuba making it impossible for Cuba to succeed!!!!!  And then if Castro and the people of Cuba show any anger towards America they are called evil!!!!!!!

United States has bombed Iraq steadily for the last 10 years.  We bombed Afganistan 3 years ago.  Sending troops into Somalia.  Bombing Sudan.  Having troops in 100 countries around the world.  How would we feel if China had troops stationed on our soil!!!!!!!!!!

God can't rid the world of evil.  Neither can America!!!!!

America's History.......................

1.  In World War 1 we fought Kiser Wilhelm and Emporer France Joseph of Austria to make the world safe for democracy.

2.  That war only paved the way for Hitler and Vladimir Lenin to come to power.

3.  So then we set out in World War 2 to rid the world of these facist governments.

4.  And that only replaced those evils with the so-called evils of communism.

5.   Now we have a War on Terrorism.  And once again this war will only plant more seeds of greater terror, and greater international war fare.  

We need to make like Sweden and stay out of the worlds problems!!!!!!!!!!





Title: Re: America Doesn't Know Her History!!!!!!
Post by: Woodrow on September 07, 2002, 01:23:34 PM
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Were the people of Germany, who passively, or strongly supported Hitler more ignorant then the people of America are today.  NO!!!!!


Similar to what is now going on in Iraq and Cuba, World War 1 left Germany economically strangled.  Devastated by the conditions imposed by the peace treaty.  Large sections of Germany were carved out and handed to Poland.  Another section was carved out to be part of a new nation, created by Woodrow Wilson and Prime Minister Loyd George that didn't even exist before world war 1.  The reperations imposed were impossible to meet.  Germany could no longer be prosperous.  The restrictions enforced upon them made it impossible for them to survive as a country.  Because of these conditions imposed the people of Germany were ripe for someone like Hitler to come along and say, "This is not right!"  These people in Germany were not barbarians or low class primitives.  They fell for Hitler only because of the extreme conditions that existed!!!!!!!!

America refuses to lift it's embargo on Cuba making it impossible for Cuba to succeed!!!!!  And then if Castro and the people of Cuba show any anger towards America they are called evil!!!!!!!

United States has bombed Iraq steadily for the last 10 years.  We bombed Afganistan 3 years ago.  Sending troops into Somalia.  Bombing Sudan.  Having troops in 100 countries around the world.  How would we feel if China had troops stationed on our soil!!!!!!!!!!

God can't rid the world of evil.  Neither can America!!!!!

America's History.......................

1.  In World War 1 we fought Kiser Wilhelm and Emporer France Joseph of Austria to make the world safe for democracy.

2.  That war only paved the way for Hitler and Vladimir Lenin to come to power.

3.  So then we set out in World War 2 to rid the world of these facist governments.

4.  And that only replaced those evils with the so-called evils of communism.

5.   Now we have a War on Terrorism.  And once again this war will only plant more seeds of greater terror, and greater international war fare.  

We need to make like Sweden and stay out of the worlds problems!!!!!!!!!!



Those who love peace more than freedom, LOOSE

Title: Re: America Doesn't Know Her History!!!!!!
Post by: pansophy on September 07, 2002, 03:25:31 PM
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Were the people of Germany, who passively, or strongly supported Hitler more ignorant then the people of America are today.  Maybe not.  They were forced into a desperate, impossible situation, which created the product of the Nazi regime.


Similar to what is now going on in Iraq and Cuba, World War 1 left Germany economically strangled.  Devastated by the conditions imposed by the peace treaty.  Large sections of Germany were carved out and handed to Poland.  Another section was carved out to be part of a new nation, created by Woodrow Wilson and Prime Minister Loyd George that didn't even exist before world war 1.  The reperations imposed were impossible to meet.  Germany could no longer be prosperous.  The restrictions enforced upon them made it impossible for them to survive as a country.  Because of these conditions imposed the people of Germany were ripe for someone like Hitler to come along and say, "This is not right!"  These people in Germany were not barbarians or low class primitives.  They fell for Hitler only because of the extreme conditions that existed!!!!!!!!

America refuses to lift it's embargo on Cuba making it impossible for Cuba to succeed!!!!!  And then if Castro and the people of Cuba show any anger towards America they are called evil!!!!!!!

United States has bombed Iraq steadily for the last 10 years.  We bombed Afganistan 3 years ago.  Sending troops into Somalia.  Bombing Sudan.  Having troops in 100 countries around the world.  How would we feel if China had troops stationed on our soil!!!!!!!!!!

God can't rid the world of evil.  Neither can America!!!!!

America's History.......................

1.  In World War 1 we fought Kiser Wilhelm and Emporer France Joseph of Austria to make the world safe for democracy.

2.  That war only paved the way for Hitler and Vladimir Lenin to come to power.

3.  So then we set out in World War 2 to rid the world of these facist governments.

4.  And that only replaced those evils with the so-called evils of communism.

5.   Now we have a War on Terrorism.  And once again this war will only plant more seeds of greater terror, and greater international war fare.  

We need to make like Sweden and stay out of the worlds problems!!!!!!!!!!







America doesn't know her history...Hmmm.

One could say the same of YOU Political Gangsta.(http://bbs.artistdirect.com/images/smilies/wavey.gif)
Title: Re: America Doesn't Know Her History!!!!!!
Post by: Sikotic™ on September 07, 2002, 09:03:28 PM
Of course America can't rid the world of evil. That's why Jesus has to come back and change thangs.

But America can do it's best to keep evil from causing total choas.
Title: Re: America Doesn't Know Her History!!!!!!
Post by: Jay ay Beee on September 08, 2002, 01:24:56 AM
Aight some of your facts are wrong, why did you choose Sweden?

And we won the wars, saving the world, not America
Title: Re: America Doesn't Know Her History!!!!!!
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on September 08, 2002, 09:20:10 AM
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America doesn't know her history...Hmmm.

One could say the same of YOU Political Gangsta.(http://bbs.artistdirect.com/images/smilies/wavey.gif)


LMFAO.......23 posts and you still aint sayin shiiiit
Title: Re: America Doesn't Know Her History!!!!!!
Post by: Maestro Minded on September 08, 2002, 10:44:32 PM
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Aight some of your facts are wrong, why did you choose Sweden?

And we won the wars, saving the world, not America


because sweden (where i live) havent been it war for 200 years...
Title: Re: America Doesn't Know Her History!!!!!!
Post by: Jay ay Beee on September 09, 2002, 03:27:41 AM
I know, but you're not the only one

And Sweden doesn't get involved because it doesn't have the power, nobody would take any notice of them.  USA has a responsibility being the most powerful nation to try and do its best for the world
Title: Re: America Doesn't Know Her History!!!!!!
Post by: Maestro Minded on September 09, 2002, 05:42:02 AM
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I know, but you're not the only one

And Sweden doesn't get involved because it doesn't have the power, nobody would take any notice of them.  USA has a responsibility being the most powerful nation to try and do its best for the world



200 years ago, when sweden decided to avoid wars, they did have alotta power, they were one of the stonger military nations... now swedens military is not that great... but my oint is that sweden is not avoiding wars because of military problems, but because of willing to have pace with other countries
Title: Re: America Doesn't Know Her History!!!!!!
Post by: Jay ay Beee on September 09, 2002, 09:06:31 AM
Sweden was not a strong military nation 200 years ago.
Title: Re: America Doesn't Know Her History!!!!!!
Post by: Maestro Minded on September 09, 2002, 10:31:17 AM
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Sweden was not a strong military nation 200 years ago.


uhm.. i just have this strange feeling that i know more about swedish history than you ..
Title: Re: America Doesn't Know Her History!!!!!!
Post by: Jay ay Beee on September 09, 2002, 10:46:49 AM
Uhm...200 years ago the military powers of the World were Britain, France and Germany mainly, with the US making progress.  Checl up on your history man instead of just making comments like that just because you live in Sweden and I don't.
Title: Re: America Doesn't Know Her History!!!!!!
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on September 09, 2002, 10:51:23 AM
i dont think Germany was  a huge world power 200 years ago, didnt Germany make that transition when Bismark took over, thats when Germany was unitied consisiting of Prussia and parts of the Austrian empire?
Title: Re: America Doesn't Know Her History!!!!!!
Post by: Jay ay Beee on September 09, 2002, 10:53:48 AM
My bad 200 years is too far back for Germany, Germany was created in 1871, but my point is that Sweden was in no way a major world power 200 years ago
Title: Re: America Doesn't Know Her History!!!!!!
Post by: Maestro Minded on September 09, 2002, 02:01:36 PM
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Uhm...200 years ago the military powers of the World were Britain, France and Germany mainly, with the US making progress.  Checl up on your history man instead of just making comments like that just because you live in Sweden and I don't.


the strongest countries were:

Britain, France, Russia, Sweden:



1741-1742  
Sweden defeats Finland and takes over the country, Peace the 7th august 1743

1788-1790
Russia attacks Sweden, Sweden defend theirself.  The Swedish navy defeats the russian navy at Svensksund 9th july 1790, One of The Swedish navy's biggest victories. peace in august the 14, 1790

1788-1788 - Sweden Have war against Denmark

1805-1807 - Sweden is a part of the war of Pommern


plz suggest you dont questionize the information ive gathered about swedish history, unlike you, ive studied it at school
Title: Re: America Doesn't Know Her History!!!!!!
Post by: Jay ay Beee on September 10, 2002, 02:20:39 AM
Don't give me that, Sweden squabbled with it's Neighbours, and defended itself against Russia, while the real powers were kicking ass all over the globe.
Title: Re: America Doesn't Know Her History!!!!!!
Post by: Kill on September 10, 2002, 03:20:27 AM
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USA has a responsibility being the most powerful nation to try and do its best for the world


But does that mean the government is in the position to judge others ?
Title: Re: America Doesn't Know Her History!!!!!!
Post by: Maestro Minded on September 10, 2002, 05:39:24 AM
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Don't give me that, Sweden squabbled with it's Neighbours, and defended itself against Russia, while the real powers were kicking ass all over the globe.


why are you ignorant???

Russia were one of the strongest nations, and tey were defeated by Sweden, Sweden alse defeated Denmark and Fnland.. isnt that enough?? if your answer is "no" you obviously dont know alot about war...
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real powers were kicking ass all over the globe

why are you coming with false information ?? gimme 2 fucking examples that's based on your point