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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Don Breezio on December 23, 2003, 11:17:23 PM

Title: Would You Kill Yourself?
Post by: Don Breezio on December 23, 2003, 11:17:23 PM
i was raised my whole life with my mom telling me that there was never any reason to kill myself...that there was nothing that wouldnt get better...and you know. that is very very true except one word of that..."nothing"...to those of you who have heard Immortal Technique's "Dance With The Devil"...would you kill yourself like billy did? i thought about it and i think if i had beaten, raped, and almost killed my own mother...i would probably take my own life...because there is noway on earth that your mother would forgive you and even if in some insane way she does you will always have that guilt...and thats a horrible thing to carry around...so if that happened to you would you kill yourself?
Title: Re:Would You Kill Yourself?
Post by: OpTiCaL on December 24, 2003, 12:47:06 AM
hmm i dont know what  you are referring to but in answer to your question generally...


...i think everyone at some point whether how brief will think "whats the point",
 but to kill yourself can be a brave act sometimes...dont get me wrong im not talking brave as in commendation for outstanding acts but brave as in once they do it they know it will be "final" - no religious crap please im talking feelings not beliefs...
...anyway ive thought about it a couple of times when shit looks real bad...i dont think at the end of the day i would tho for a couple of reasons...

1) my parents ( / family / friends) it would crush them..imagine being on the otherside...a parent who's child dies...dies not only before them but dies willingly...im sure any parent out there would want their child to come to them no matter how stupid / bad things are..even if they cant help much their support can make a difference.

2) for me i dont want to be beaten in life, i dont want to give up...life is one big challenge that one day i will conquer...not only survive but thrive... anyone can take the easy route...its taking a hard one and sticking to the path that you believe in no matter what comes along the way.


One other thing about suicide...i hope that anyone who does it thinks of others around them..not just people they know / love etc but anyone else it could affect or harm ... ie it makes me sick when people jump on train and tube  tracks / motorways when the vehicles are coming ... what thought is given to the poor people that have witnessed this horrible thing...and by doing it this way you can also endanger their lives by causing a crash / derailment etc
If ya gonna do it listen to the gravediggaz - nah only joking...if you do do it where no one or as little people are effected by it ie strangulation or electricution.


Anyway this is a bad time of year for suicides all over the world...i hope that more people think before they act !
Title: Re:Would You Kill Yourself?
Post by: Don Seer on December 24, 2003, 01:39:08 AM
^ feel that.. :)

I never would.. not in a million years.. no matter how bad things are, and they have been bad :(

I always feel sad when i see people have jumped off the multi-storey car-park here in town.. its a favourite spot.. i saw them putting nettin up the other day too :/  few months ago it was a 22 yr old girl, about 2 weeks ago the friend of this club promoter i know hung himself.

if people have problems u need to get help.. it is there.. its a hard first step tho
Title: Re:Would You Kill Yourself?
Post by: HIPPI on December 24, 2003, 02:16:27 AM
no matter how bad things are, and they have been bad :(

Come on now, NIK can't be that bad. ;)
Title: Re:Would You Kill Yourself?
Post by: T.J. on December 24, 2003, 02:20:12 AM
if i had the courage to i would without much hesitation.
Title: Re:Would You Kill Yourself?
Post by: HIPPI on December 24, 2003, 02:22:21 AM
if i had the courage to i would without much hesitation.

You're a fuckin idiot. The whole point of this question is "would you have the courage...."  LOL. You should kill yourself just because you're so dumb.
Title: Re:Would You Kill Yourself?
Post by: T.J. on December 24, 2003, 02:25:20 AM
wow so funny......
Title: Re:Would You Kill Yourself?
Post by: HIPPI on December 24, 2003, 02:39:13 AM
wow so funny......

Thanks, but it really wasn't meant to be.

Here's a quick analogy. I ask "would you buy a ferrari if you had the money?"

Then you answer "IF I HAD A LOT OF MONEY I WOULD"

Title: Re:Would You Kill Yourself?
Post by: Don Breezio on December 24, 2003, 02:40:31 AM
wrong...the point of this question had nothing to do with courage...the point of this question was to find out if there was anything in life worth killing yourself for. my answer is yes...all of you need to listen to immortal techniques track i mentioned above...the kid in the story kills himself in the end...and while i can think of nothing else i would kill myself over...his situation would make me jump right off the top of the empire state building.
Title: Re:Would You Kill Yourself?
Post by: HIPPI on December 24, 2003, 02:41:50 AM
If I was TJ I would kill myself.
Title: Re:Would You Kill Yourself?
Post by: T.J. on December 24, 2003, 02:49:51 AM
 ::) criticising people over the net..... how much fun you must have.
Title: Re:Would You Kill Yourself?
Post by: HIPPI on December 24, 2003, 02:51:43 AM
::) criticising people over the net..... how much fun you must have.

Wait, aren't you that dorky guy who was in the pic with his dad? LMAO. Damn, now I feel low for bugging a retard. Sorry man.
Title: Re:Would You Kill Yourself?
Post by: T.J. on December 24, 2003, 02:54:13 AM
wait.... arent you that sad cunt who has nothing better to do with his life then criticise people on an internet forum, be banned several times, and still come back repeatedly? there's better ways to have fun than like that.
Title: Re:Would You Kill Yourself?
Post by: HIPPI on December 24, 2003, 02:56:30 AM
wait.... arent you that sad cunt who has nothing better to do with his life then criticise people on an internet forum, be banned several times, and still come back repeatedly? there's better ways to have fun than like that.

Yes I am the person who was repeatedly banned from an internet forum full of people I don't give a shit about. And no, while I'm on the computer, there is no better way to have fun, than to piss little dorks like you off. :-*
Title: Re:Would You Kill Yourself?
Post by: T.J. on December 24, 2003, 03:00:34 AM
yes..... keep telling yourself you don't give a shit about the forum..... even though you're one of the people who has dedicated the most of their time to this forum.
Title: Re:Would You Kill Yourself?
Post by: Don Breezio on December 24, 2003, 03:02:05 AM
ok both of you shut the fuck up and get back to topic. TJ made a joke NIK theres nothing wrong with that.
Title: Re:Would You Kill Yourself?
Post by: Citizen-Y on December 24, 2003, 03:08:18 AM
(http://home.comcast.net/~parlett316/pics/NIW.jpg)
Title: Re:Would You Kill Yourself?
Post by: HIPPI on December 24, 2003, 03:12:08 AM
yes..... keep telling yourself you don't give a shit about the forum..... even though you're one of the people who has dedicated the most of their time to this forum.

You have me mistaken for someone else. LOL. How are you gonna diss someone, and then have the wrong person? LOL. WOW, you're, um, as your teachers say, SPECIAL.
Title: Re:Would You Kill Yourself?
Post by: HIPPI on December 24, 2003, 03:14:50 AM
ok both of you shut the fuck up and get back to topic. TJ made a joke NIK theres nothing wrong with that.

And here is another. LOLLLL.

Ladies and gentlemen, I present... THE 3 STOOGES.
Title: Re:Would You Kill Yourself?
Post by: HIPPI on December 24, 2003, 03:15:40 AM
(http://home.comcast.net/~parlett316/pics/NIW.jpg)

^^^
Another dumbass that thinks I'm NIK. People, please, if you're gonna attack someone, make sure you know who it is, otherwise you make yourselves look like complete idiots like these 2 young fellas have just done.
Title: Re:Would You Kill Yourself?
Post by: Citizen-Y on December 24, 2003, 03:28:56 AM


^^^
Another dumbass that thinks I'm NIK. People, please, if you're gonna attack someone, make sure you know who it is, otherwise you make yourselves look like complete idiots like these 2 young fellas have just done.

OK if your not NIK than just follow the text in that picture for your next move.
Title: Re:Would You Kill Yourself?
Post by: HIPPI on December 24, 2003, 12:10:10 PM


^^^
Another dumbass that thinks I'm NIK. People, please, if you're gonna attack someone, make sure you know who it is, otherwise you make yourselves look like complete idiots like these 2 young fellas have just done.

OK if your not NIK than just follow the text in that picture for your next move.

Umm, NO. :-*
Title: Re:Would You Kill Yourself?
Post by: Trauma-san on December 24, 2003, 02:04:35 PM
I would never, ever, ever, ever, ever in a million years Cobain myself.  
Title: Re:Would You Kill Yourself?
Post by: Trauma-san on December 24, 2003, 02:09:10 PM
^ feel that.. :)

if people have problems u need to get help.. it is there.. its a hard first step tho

That's true, but it's also a hard first step to step off a skyscraper.  
Title: Re:Would You Kill Yourself?
Post by: mauzip on December 24, 2003, 02:17:50 PM
would you kill yourself like billy did? i thought about it and i think if i had beaten, raped, and almost killed my own mother...i would probably take my own life...because there is noway on earth that your mother would forgive you and even if in some insane way she does you will always have that guilt...and thats a horrible thing to carry around...so if that happened to you would you kill yourself?

I don't think you'd care about your mother's opinion if you were like that.
Title: Re:Would You Kill Yourself?
Post by: Don Breezio on December 25, 2003, 12:21:06 AM
would you kill yourself like billy did? i thought about it and i think if i had beaten, raped, and almost killed my own mother...i would probably take my own life...because there is noway on earth that your mother would forgive you and even if in some insane way she does you will always have that guilt...and thats a horrible thing to carry around...so if that happened to you would you kill yourself?

I don't think you'd care about your mother's opinion if you were like that.

god damn...this is why i hate the fact that the song is so unknown...ok heres the story

a kid wanted to be down with this crew but the kid had kinda been a rat. the crew told him the only way he would get in with them is to rape a woman and then kill her. one night they snatched a woman up (billy never looked at the ladies face), they just snatched her up and beat the fuck out of her and then tore her up one by one. when billy went to go kill her he pulled the shirt away from her face so he could shoot her in the head while he looked into her eyes. when he pulled the shirt back it turned out the lady he raped was his own mother who was still alive looking into his eyes and crying harder than she did as they raped her.

if that shit happened to you you're telling me you wouldnt kill yourself? i'd shoot myself in my fucking head.
Title: Re:Would You Kill Yourself?
Post by: mauzip on December 25, 2003, 03:18:26 AM
hmm... i don't know. i've never been in a situation like that ;)
Title: Re:Would You Kill Yourself?
Post by: Trauma-san on December 25, 2003, 01:29:16 PM
would you kill yourself like billy did? i thought about it and i think if i had beaten, raped, and almost killed my own mother...i would probably take my own life...because there is noway on earth that your mother would forgive you and even if in some insane way she does you will always have that guilt...and thats a horrible thing to carry around...so if that happened to you would you kill yourself?

I don't think you'd care about your mother's opinion if you were like that.

god damn...this is why i hate the fact that the song is so unknown...ok heres the story

a kid wanted to be down with this crew but the kid had kinda been a rat. the crew told him the only way he would get in with them is to rape a woman and then kill her. one night they snatched a woman up (billy never looked at the ladies face), they just snatched her up and beat the fuck out of her and then tore her up one by one. when billy went to go kill her he pulled the shirt away from her face so he could shoot her in the head while he looked into her eyes. when he pulled the shirt back it turned out the lady he raped was his own mother who was still alive looking into his eyes and crying harder than she did as they raped her.

if that shit happened to you you're telling me you wouldnt kill yourself? i'd shoot myself in my fucking head.


If you were in a bullshit-hypothetial situation like that, you wouldn't give a shit about anybody anyways, or you wouldn't have just raped and killed a woman.  So no, you wouldn't commit suicide, because you would be a sorry excuse of life to begin with.  The idiot should have committed suicide before he did all that, save the world a lot of trouble.  
Title: Re:Would You Kill Yourself?
Post by: Lincoln on December 25, 2003, 05:43:14 PM
No. No matter what. One of my best friends killed himself on June 4 this year, and I would want no one to feel like that.
Title: Re:Would You Kill Yourself?
Post by: Don Breezio on December 25, 2003, 11:21:18 PM
then what would you do if you found out you raped the woman who gave birth to you?
Title: Re:Would You Kill Yourself?
Post by: HIPPI on December 26, 2003, 12:23:18 AM
then what would you do if you found out you raped the woman who gave birth to you?

Well, Mormons take part in activities such as the one you just described on a regular basis. It's custom to them, so if you want, check out their ideologies, and see how they make it okay. Or if you have any Mormon friends, ask them. I asked a Mormon I met a while back, and he said it was to keep the love within the family. I never spoke to him again.
Title: Re:Would You Kill Yourself?
Post by: Lincoln on December 26, 2003, 10:45:06 AM
then what would you do if you found out you raped the woman who gave birth to you?

Stretch out my prayer afterwards for about 3 hours. It's kind of an impossible situation that I couldn't even hypothetically imagine.
Title: Re:Would You Kill Yourself?
Post by: Don Breezio on December 26, 2003, 11:26:24 AM
then what would you do if you found out you raped the woman who gave birth to you?

Stretch out my prayer afterwards for about 3 hours. It's kind of an impossible situation that I couldn't even hypothetically imagine.

thats why i cant hypothetically imagine anything other than taking my own life. i dont pray. im not religous at all really...and even if i was religious thats some shit i dont feel you'd be forgiven for. i'd just kill myself.
Title: Re:Would You Kill Yourself?
Post by: Lincoln on December 26, 2003, 11:55:43 AM
then what would you do if you found out you raped the woman who gave birth to you?

Stretch out my prayer afterwards for about 3 hours. It's kind of an impossible situation that I couldn't even hypothetically imagine.

thats why i cant hypothetically imagine anything other than taking my own life. i dont pray. im not religous at all really...and even if i was religious thats some shit i dont feel you'd be forgiven for. i'd just kill myself.

Sorry I just can't imagine this scenario. I would never rape a women, nor do anything against my religion/ethics to fit in. Therefore I couldn't imagine how the repercussions would feel.
Title: Re:Would You Kill Yourself?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 28, 2003, 05:16:08 PM
LMAO@People thinking Osama Iz a G is me...Fucking morons.
Title: Re:Would You Kill Yourself?
Post by: HIPPI on December 28, 2003, 09:50:47 PM
LMAO@People thinking Osama Iz a G is me...Fucking morons.

I told 1 person about 5 times that I'm not NIK. He didn't understand, so at the end I had to draw him a diagram. Stupid people these days.
Title: Re:Would You Kill Yourself?
Post by: Eidolon_Ravi on December 29, 2003, 02:45:38 AM
LMAO@People thinking Osama Iz a G is me...Fucking morons.

 A correction

 *Fucking MORMONS*
Title: Re:Would You Kill Yourself?
Post by: Don Rizzle on December 29, 2003, 11:21:56 AM
i almost did when i was 13 my mum was dying of cancer, i had it all planned too when she went i was gonna od on her morphene, but when it came down to it i thaught of things that i hadn't done at the time like get with a gril n shit. I decided i had to accomplish more shit in my life thats y i'm still here 7 years later, i have done the stuff i wanted to do back then, but theres so much more i still wanna do so i don't think i'd ever consider it again not till i'm in my last years anyway, although i still get depressed at times.