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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: SGV on December 30, 2003, 10:35:25 AM
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OK South haters. List the artists that you've heard with explanations why you don't like them. And, before you leave, list some of your favorite rappers out. I want to see something.
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fuck the souf. no arguments: just fuck it. it's so childish and crunk, both styles suck cock big time.
you just like it because you mexican
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fuck the souf. no arguments: just fuck it. it's so childish and crunk, both styles suck cock big time.
you just like it because you mexican
Wow. I don't know if that was supposed to be a joke, but it was very ignorant anyway. "It's so childish and crunk, both styles suck cock big time." Since when has "Childish" been a style? LOL.
"You like it because you mexican," Fact, I'm not Mexican. Fact, Most of the South's fans are black. Fact, you're ignorant.
It's obvious this moron has NEVER heard more than 6 artists from the South. And, people call me a hater. Look at this clown.
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no knockin on crunk music's hustle....but I'm tired of it...I just made a thread on siccness about lil jon's impact on our radios...it's reachin a point where i throw tha damm radio out when someone turns it on......
but other than crunk shit, i luv tha south.....ccc and them some of my favs of all time....
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fuck the souf. no arguments: just fuck it. it's so childish and crunk, both styles suck cock big time.
you just like it because you mexican
Wow. I don't know if that was supposed to be a joke, but it was very ignorant anyway. "It's so childish and crunk, both styles suck cock big time." Since when has "Childish" been a style? LOL.
"You like it because you mexican," Fact, I'm not Mexican. Fact, Most of the South's fans are black. Fact, you're ignorant.
It's obvious this moron has NEVER heard more than 6 artists from the South. And, people call me a hater. Look at this clown.
youre latino, mex or not I dont care.
PLUS childish is not a so-called style but it IS childish.. very often! no offense to children of course.
PLUS this comment was supposed to be ignorant...
AND PLUS .. FUCK THE SOUF.. pz
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well according to suv if u dont like something your hater. i dont hate the south i jus really dont care for most of what i heard. i dont like crunk beats. an i dont like the thick southern accent. if that makes me a hater guess im a hater than. so be it who cares. suv u take this rap shit jus a lil 2 serious
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I dont like that new Crunk shit.
I Like the original South Like Scarface & Geto Boys
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sgv mayne homie nobody hate tha south..
only thing people hate about tha south is niggas like lil jon,ying yang twins,bonecrusher and other random crunk music artist...oh yea 3-6 too ...wit they bandwagon asses...other than that tha south is jus as good as nebody else..
everybody would agree lil jon and his crunk bullshit fuck ups tha south sound..everybody dont like pep rallies...and all of lil jon shit is pep rally music...
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word..lil jon does sound like something my girlfriend cheerleads to cuz shes a semi pro cheerleader..lmao
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i like outkast, not much more, lil jon is mad anoying
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I'm not really feelin the south...Scarface is dope though, and Ludacris' lyrics are funny...other than that...South kinda blows...
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Ludacris
Jermaine Dupri
Outkast
I like the above, only because they're not the conventional south rappers. I have a stereotypical image of southern rappers, who are covered top to bottom in their bling, with their gold teeth, and their hideous crunk music. Trick Daddy and Lil Jon, just to name a few, fit this category.
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Nappy Roots
Ludacris
T.I.
David Banner
Outkast
Trick Daddy
those are who im feelin...for the most part...im sure i left out a few. some i havent checked out yet (like paul wall but i've been meaning to check him). as for the crunk shit i hate that but if its just basic good southern rap. i love it. the people i listed above are some of the most talented rappers out (except trick daddy but he's good for a bump).
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JD (sometimes)
OutKast
Luda
thats about all im feelin
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youre latino, mex or not I dont care.
PLUS childish is not a so-called style but it IS childish.. very often! no offense to children of course.
PLUS this comment was supposed to be ignorant...
AND PLUS .. FUCK THE SOUF.. pz
What's childish about the South, let me know. Btw, you never said what you bump.
well according to suv if u dont like something your hater. i dont hate the south i jus really dont care for most of what i heard. i dont like crunk beats. an i dont like the thick southern accent. if that makes me a hater guess im a hater than. so be it who cares. suv u take this rap shit jus a lil 2 serious
That makes you a hater. You don't like the accent, so you hate their music. You probably think they're wack just because you don't like their accent, not their music. That's hating. It's one not to like something, like not digging Crunk Beats, that's coo.
Ludacris
Jermaine Dupri
Outkast
I have a stereotypical image of southern rappers, who are covered top to bottom in their bling, with their gold teeth, and their hideous crunk music. Trick Daddy and Lil Jon, just to name a few, fit this category.
Trick Daddy DOES NOT make crunk music. See, this is what I mean. You guys just assume everything about artists. I hope you don't like Yukmouth, he's blinged up with Gold teeth(Platinum now) and makes West Coast crunk music("What It Do" "Regime Mobstaz").
So, yea, you people are really avoiding the questions I asked. Why is that? Ya'll have no case. Who have you heard, why are they wack. What are the artists(outside of the South) that you like.
Please keep the extremely ignorant comments out of here.
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well according to suv if u dont like something your hater. i dont hate the south i jus really dont care for most of what i heard. i dont like crunk beats. an i dont like the thick southern accent. if that makes me a hater guess im a hater than. so be it who cares. suv u take this rap shit jus a lil 2 serious
That makes you a hater. You don't like the accent, so you hate their music. You probably think they're wack just because you don't like their accent, not their music. That's hating. It's one not to like something, like not digging Crunk Beats, that's coo.
wow SGV...you've said some stupid shit in your time...but you really out did yourself on that one.
he said that he didnt like the accent. yes the fuckin accent gets annoying. that doesnt make anyone a hater. you told me over aim that you dont really like to date white girls, you like latina's. so since you dont like white girls that makes you a hater i guess right?
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heres a better example:
by your way of thinking...you hated terrorist threats because it wasnt the same style is bow down. therefore you are a hater.
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I don't like white girls because they're bodies aren't full like Latinas. Which is a reason. I didn't just say I don't like white girls and not have a reason for it. It's one thing to not like an accent, it's another to hate on music for it. I'm not a huge fan of the NY accent, but I don't hate NY Hip Hop. Hating an accent has NOTHING to do with music. Therefore it's hating.
Terrorist Threats had weak beats and lyrics. Bow Down didn't. There's a reason. I'm not hating because I have a foundation to what I say. Sorry man.
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back on the topic
damn im glad to hear that im not the only one that aint feeling this lil jon phase right now, i mean shit is ridiculous, every time i turn on the radio his shitty ass music is on and im in southern cali, annoying az fuck definitely
honestly him, bonecrusher and the ying yang twinz and whatever other guy that "screams" his "so called" lyrics, gets no love from me, and the beats damn they are plain literally, nothing special at all, just bass
And then we always get the excuse "oh but his music makes the bitches get wild and rowdy in the club", my answer to that is that they have been doing that forever with other rappers, aint no excuse to play his shitty music
give it more time and this lil jon phase will die out no doubt, people will get tired of him
rappers that i like from the south are
Ludacris
Scarface
Devin
Outkast
T.I.
Three 6 Mafia(their old style, not feeling their new crunk stuff that much)
DTP
Z Ro
i also need to check out paul wall and some other "QUALITY" south rappers
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I seriously can tell none of you have ever heard a Lil Jon beat that wasn't on MTV. Listen to his beats on Kings Of Crunk. He has a lot of laid back beats. Some R & B beats etc. It's funny to me man. If his beats are just "bass" what do you think most West Coast beats are? Lil Jon has guitar licks, violins and plenty more sounds incorporated into his beats. MAN! Ya'll kill me. For everyone who hates Lil Jon, please don't tell me you like "Move Bitch" or any Yukmouth song where he screams. If so, you're being hypocrites.
Ying Yang Twinz hardly "Scream." They make booty music. But, they still come with creative concepts(Example, "Naggin"). Again, misinformed.
Bonecrusher, well yea, he's pretty lame.
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So, yea, you people are really avoiding the questions I asked. Why is that? Ya'll have no case. Who have you heard, why are they wack.
What are the artists(outside of the South) that you like.
Please keep the extremely ignorant comments out of here.
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what I bump? Well, I can tell you I bump shit you hate. but that's not the reason why I hate on the souf in this thread. we have different musictastes and that's a good thing. you know? cause I doubt you wanna be like me. and I dont wanna be like you. so it's all good, isnt it? how I know you hate what I like? that's cause, my taste is kinda similiar to jome's.. nuff said I guess.
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OK South haters. List the artists that you've heard with explanations why you don't like them. And, before you leave, list some of your favorite rappers out. I want to see something.
DON'T LIKE
Lil Jon & The Eastside Boyz - Don't hate them, just don't like their style.
Nelly - Hated him since the beginning, he hardly does anything for Hip Hop and still becomes a Hip Hop icon to people.
FAVORITE RAPPERS
DMX, Eve & The LOX
Nas & Jay-Z
2Pac & Notorious B.I.G.
22 replies and I'm the only one that did what he asked! ;D
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what I bump? Well, I can tell you I bump shit you hate. but that's not the reason why I hate on the souf in this thread. we have different musictastes and that's a good thing. you know? cause I doubt you wanna be like me. and I dont wanna be like you. so it's all good, isnt it? how I know you hate what I like? that's cause, my taste is kinda similiar to jome's.. nuff said I guess.
Only artists that Jome likes that I don't, G-Unit, Royce and Xzibit. So, answer the question.
DON'T LIKE
Lil Jon & The Eastside Boyz - Don't hate them, just don't like their style.
Nelly - Hated him since the beginning, he hardly does anything for Hip Hop and still becomes a Hip Hop icon to people.
FAVORITE RAPPERS
DMX, Eve & The LOX
Nas & Jay-Z
2Pac & Notorious B.I.G.
22 replies and I'm the only one that did what he asked! ;D
Thank you. But, I asked for artists from the South that you disliked. Nelly is from the Midwest. Again, just because he has a country accent, that doesn't mean he's from the South.
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D'oh I knew that. :-\
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Not picking on you, but it's funny how misinformed some people are. Chingy and Nelly are from the same city, matter of fact, same state as TechN9ne. How are they South and not TechN9ne?
I've noticed one thing, so far nobody has came with a reason why they hate South music. They hate Lil Jon, he's not the South. He's just an artist. But, for some reason, their hate for him is enough for them to hate an entire area. Crazy.
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Too lazy to find the good artists. ;D
Oh, and because when people are talking about the South style they're talking about Lil Jon's style.
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Too lazy to find the good artists. ;D
Oh, and because when people are talking about the South style they're talking about Lil Jon's style.
That's pretty much it. They don't try to hear anything else, that's why I say they're haters. How can you hate something you hardly know anything about?
Lil Jon's style is found in VERY FEW artists. Pastor Troy had been doing Crunk shit before Lil Jon made it big, Bonecrusher is pretty much on some Lil Jon shit. Oomp Camp, mainly Baby D, is like T.I. mixed with Lil Jon. Aside from that, who else is on that crunk shit? David Banner at times, but he balances it out with some dope laid back tracks. So, you got a handful of artists that make these people hate an entire area?
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ok SGV...you arent even reading peoples posts...there have been reasons. there are different styles of southern rap and people have listed why they didnt like them. they didnt like the crunk feel. they didnt like the southern accent (but that just makes us haters), etc...i like some southern stuff but the accent gets really annoying. i dont like the crunk shit but you're right. Naggin' was dope and creative, i've almost always liked the ying yang twins (except their last album...it was horrible). but seriously that question is like asking people why they dont like eastcoast hip hop. the same answers would come out for why people dont like westcoast hip hop. you're not going to change anyones mind by calling them haters. just leave it alone.
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what does 3-6 and theyre bandwagon asses means??
and why ppl hate them?
and what crunk music do they have in comparison to not crunk, older tracks?
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the reason i said 3-6 bandwagon asses..issssss
1. bone and 3-6 beef in tha early 90's..they came into tha game on that dark devil like shit...sametime bone came in with it..krayzie bone even said he made up tha harmonizin part of bone's style while he was locked up ..when he accidently shot wish...but 3-6 was makin a big fuss sayin eazy e came to memphis and jack they shit...was eazy e apart of bone enterprise..no...was bone jus now formin tha dark sound they was usin...yep...its funny how a group could steal a style they started off with..whille all of the members was in out of jail..and the people that claim they started tha style..dont even use tha style ..and tha claimer stole tha style they bitchin about from kingpin skinny pimp...but they dont speak on that shit..bone continue to use tha same style...if that was a big ass problem enough to start a beef how come they stop usin tha style and start dissectin members that were tha originators of tha foundation??hmmm..maybe they saw tha bone could sell millions and wanted to jump on that wagon..
b. cash money /no limit bling and ballin era- 3-6..how tha fuck u go from bein on tha satanic vibe to bein a baller ....once again they rode that wagon that was big in that era until it died out..
3.tx - syrup sippin and 20inch trend that was started by dj screw's screwed up click-i aint gone lie...cashmoney and no limit bit this style...that started growin in 92...screw and his click always was speakin on 20inch blades,rims,etc and syrup.nobody else was speakin on it...dont believe go listen to a couple of screw tapes that was label 92-94 not watts or ron-c but screw....3-6 bit this style hard as fuck...sippin on syrup...that shit was a slap...how u go from on tha satanic vibe,bein a baller to a screwhead?? tha emergence(sp?) of lil flip made this style real big...and this style is were we are now...notice how all of tha 3-6 affiliates have chopped and slowed album..( i will not say chopped and screw..becuz screw is dead and he didnt mix it..out of respect)
isnt bandwagon- to jock and ride whatever is new until tha next phase come around??
its difference btw evolving and becomin better to jackin each new style that emerges..
evolving= eminem's rap skills back in 90 to now..2pac skills from-90-96,dr. dre's wreckin cru producin style to now...thats evolving...
lil jon is tha south....crunk is a a phrase started by people in ga...it wasnt a style of music until lil jon did it...and everything that sounded like his shit fell up under tha label...if stuff that wasnt labeled crunk be4 hand did..like pastor troy shit,3-6 tear tha club up shit..etc...hell wasnt lil jon on tha cover of tha source as the newsouth??
jon ass is jus as south as screw and michael watts...thats like sayin crip hop and g-funk aint west coast...
and quit sayin chingy,nelly,and others like em r from tha south...they speak southern slang. hell what was tha purpose of tha midwest swang song??
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suv u have to be the biggest moron on this fuckin site. how is me not liking southern accents hating u fuckin dumb as brick mutha fucka. Did i say i hate there music b/c of it. NO i just find there accents annoying thus i aint really feelin there music. wtf is so wrong about that. another thing u mention ny accents u dumb shit. black people in ny dont have the ny accent. only the white people do. I guess i overestimated ur intelligence. after all you fucked pink an than she played you
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yo SGV i got respect for you BUT lately u have come off as cocky, like a know it all, u do have alot of knowledge but u use it insult rather than to educate
I only got like 10 southern cd's in my collection cause i aint really feeling the south that much
Ludacris ( gotta like his personality and his lyrics, tight beats and all)
T.I. (he got crunk stuff too BUT he dont yell his lyrics at the top of his lungs, he got some real topics in his music too)
Scarface ( nuff said)
Devin (dope laid back style)
Three 6 Mafia (love their old style but they are still dope)
now on to Lil Jon, his production is ok but thats where his talent stops, id rather support yukmouth than lil jon anyday, i gotta he from cali ;D
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sorry to say it...but sgv knows hardly nething about tha south...he only knows what he reads...and prolly download....and thats 4sho...he prolly cant even tell me why parts of tx dislike when outside people use tha words screwed and chopped on albums...or who invented tha slowed up style...he is technically a moron ..he was tryin to make his post go 1 way so he could throw up names like..chamillionaire,slim thug,esg,face,etc etc...to try and make this a ya favorite rapper vs. southern rappers..but tha thread went another way...everybody agreed on lil jon..
jus becuz people dislike lil jon's style dont mean they r haters...of south music...and basically errrrbody in this thread has problem wit that style...nobody said in this shit that jus becuz they hate jon they hate an entire area...u dont comprehend well....
tha music connoisseur i am...i have damn near everything that came from all parts of tha south...from dirty to big pokey...but since i hate lil jon..i hate tha south..nigga please(shonuff when he heard bruce leroy could catch a bullet with his teeth tone)
and why u bullshittin its niggas in tha south that hates lil jon..and that crunk shit..and tombot with a passion...does that make them any different from tha people who have a opinion??does that make them "area haters"...mayne get on with ya tryin to school people about tha south bullshit...im tellin u dont know shit ...only about tha trends...
u tell me who put lil jon on tha map...gave him his spotlight...to were he is now....u give me a correct answer...nigga i would delete this screenname and never come on this site again..i put that on my delete key...
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wow...SGV...i think you've officially been
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for me, not the true origin is important, but the style. and chingy + nelly have definitly southern style, no matter what. Nina duznt.
my top5 rappers in order: eminem, tech n9ne, royce, 2pac, canibus. I also like immortal technique but I only own one LP and I think he needs professional production. I once was a big L fan but he has too sucky production/feats and only a few tracks lol.
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suv u have to be the biggest moron on this fuckin site. how is me not liking southern accents hating u fuckin dumb as brick mutha fucka. Did i say i hate there music b/c of it. NO i just find there accents annoying thus i aint really feelin there music. wtf is so wrong about that. another thing u mention ny accents u dumb shit. black people in ny dont have the ny accent. only the white people do. I guess i overestimated ur intelligence. after all you fucked pink an than she played you
Calling me a moron, yet your grammar is not that hot. Right. Anyway, it's one thing to say I don't like an accent, but to say you don't like their music because of it is hating. They can't help their accent, just like you can't. Nobody can, so why count that against them? Oh yea, about NY accents, Prodigy, Shyne, Anyone from Imfamous Mobb, Kay Slay, Nature, they don't have an accent? To me they do. So, let's not pull the intelligence card. And, LOL @ still bringing up Pink. I swear you must've really wanted to be there, because you're BEYOND fixated with that. Poor kid.
So, let me clarify why I made this thread. Why is it when people hear the South, they say "Oh I hate the South, Fuck that Crunk Shit." OK, that's fine you don't like Crunk music, not many do. It's not for everyone, but to hate the South for it? Only certain artits in the South are like that. It's like saying "I hate the West Coast, all they do is rap about being gangsta." That's a generalization. Becuase there's plenty of West Coast acts that ain't on that g-shit. Valid point.
Guy: DJ Screw(from the Southside of Houston) invented the slowed down music. R.I.P. Also, let's get one thing straight. DO NOT refer to me as "nigga." That doesn't pertain to me, so don't bother calling me that. Lil Jon, as far as I know, was put on by JD. He used to be a producer for the So So Def Bass All Star albums. That's how I got to know Lil Jon.
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suv u have to be the biggest moron on this fuckin site. how is me not liking southern accents hating u fuckin dumb as brick mutha fucka. Did i say i hate there music b/c of it. NO i just find there accents annoying thus i aint really feelin there music. wtf is so wrong about that. another thing u mention ny accents u dumb shit. black people in ny dont have the ny accent. only the white people do. I guess i overestimated ur intelligence. after all you fucked pink an than she played you
Calling me a moron, yet your grammar is not that hot. Right. Anyway, it's one thing to say I don't like an accent, but to say you don't like their music because of it is hating. They can't help their accent, just like you can't. Nobody can, so why count that against them? Oh yea, about NY accents, Prodigy, Shyne, Anyone from Imfamous Mobb, Kay Slay, Nature, they don't have an accent? To me they do. So, let's not pull the intelligence card. And, LOL @ still bringing up Pink. I swear you must've really wanted to be there, because you're BEYOND fixated with that. Poor kid.
dude...its pretty well obvious that if you dont like the southern accent you're not going to like the music. i swear lately you've said some of the dumbest shit i've ever heard in my life.
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An accent has nothing to do with their music. TO ME it doesn't. It doesn't affect their lyrics, concepts, creativity, flow, etc. They just sound different.
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An accent has nothing to do with their music. TO ME it doesn't. It doesn't affect their lyrics, concepts, creativity, flow, etc. They just sound different.
"Yo to me it don't matter how dope you write or look
MC's without a voice should write a book"
Evidence
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jus becuz people dislike lil jon's style dont mean they r haters...of south music...and basically errrrbody in this thread has problem wit that style...nobody said in this shit that jus becuz they hate jon they hate an entire area...u dont comprehend well...
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i dont like the accents most of them use, and im generally not feelin the beats. if that qualifies as a hater than im one. but when did disliking something automatically make you a hater?
i will give it a listen, but if i dont like it then i wont listen to it again
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damn i gotta take sgv to class on some southern history....kuz obviously...he doesnt know shit...
1st off my apologies 4 usin tha phrase nigga...i wasnt directin it 2 u...i said nigga please...in place of yea right...notice i said in tha tone shonuff said...like i said homie u dont comprehend well...so ima be a g..and take tha slack 4 it..kuz in tha movie tha last dragon..tha shit shonuff was hearin about leroy catchin bullets with his teeth...was shit to say yea right..or nigga please on...kuz it was impossible..neway..
1. dj screw(s.i.p) didnt invent that style.and he isnt from houston...he's from smithville, tx .. an artist in miami called jam pony was tha 1st and creator of it.....screw didnt...jam pony was slowin up his bass cd's,he also did a couple of albums 4 half pint,and bust down way back in tha game...jam didnt do mainstream and westcoast rap like screw...he jus did bass..and most of jam pony's album had to get made regular speed kuz tha industry and his label didnt think it would become a trend...so tha way jam originally did his music had to be changed and he did tha slowed up style on mixtapes. screw came around a year later...he picked tha style up from this old school dj named daryl scott...who screw later met when he moved from smithville to houston..and jus took tha whole style created by jam pony...and taught from his friend daryl to a whole nother level...i suggest u pick up dj screw the legend cd up and listen to disc 2..and a lil history lesson u can run and tell ya online friends or ya real life buddies....u kno that chant lil jon and ying yang says on get low.....to tha windowwwwwww to tha wall...jam pony has a self entitled album called to tha window to tha wall...and tha original chant came from that song and album...im jus tryin to get ya mind correct on a couple of things..these "magazines" will never shed light on...most of tha sayings lil jon says come from jam pony express old school albums...he is basically lyin to tha public when he says...it comes from everyday sayings...but those everyday sayings originated from tha pony...in ft lauderdale florida...
i suggest u pick up..or search and download (http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drc700/c752/c7521550voa.jpg) this greatest hits album..cuz u cant find none of his original shit nomore...or ne of tha mixtapes...
2. jermaine gave him his 1st job yep...but too short brought lil jon in tha spotlight..bia bia..was his 1st nationwide hit...that put him in tha spotlight as an artist....thats bullshit u got to know lil jon as a producer on that compilation...kuz he only did a couple songs..and tha shit he did on that didnt even much stand out to put him in tha position he's in now...9-times out of 10 u read he was on those bass cd's cuz i doubt u was lookin 4ward to lil jon on those producin..kuz tha motherfucker was virtually unheard of...to be like...mayne lil jon is on tha so so def compilation...i gotta get it...
...damn do i get some positive karma 4 this...lecture??
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how can you hate Nappy Roots, they're fucking good. Just try listening to Po' Folks (This is a must, blazing and driving to this in the summer with your windows down=heaven, got lots of good memories when listening to this song), Leave This Morning, These Walls, Sick And Tired, Aww Naw...theres lots more. Scarface is another....In Between Us (Ft. Nas), Gameover (Ft. Dr. Dre, Ice Cube, Too Short)<- ok, so it's basically a westcoast track, Snitch Nigga. Three 6 Mafia are pretty fucking good too. Same with David Banner and Big Tymers
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An accent has nothing to do with their music. TO ME it doesn't. It doesn't affect their lyrics, concepts, creativity, flow, etc. They just sound different.
key word, TO YOU, to others it does, fuckin everyone hates on different rappers for their voice..(canibus, ikon from jmt, banks)..
all i gots to say is you can't stereotype a geographical group of rap, just because many (probably not even the majority) do it one way
nappy roots, outkast, ludacris, and scarface, (prob missed someone) are all really good
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suv u have to be the biggest moron on this fuckin site. how is me not liking southern accents hating u fuckin dumb as brick mutha fucka. Did i say i hate there music b/c of it. NO i just find there accents annoying thus i aint really feelin there music. wtf is so wrong about that. another thing u mention ny accents u dumb shit. black people in ny dont have the ny accent. only the white people do. I guess i overestimated ur intelligence. after all you fucked pink an than she played you
Calling me a moron, yet your grammar is not that hot. Right. Anyway, it's one thing to say I don't like an accent, but to say you don't like their music because of it is hating. They can't help their accent, just like you can't. Nobody can, so why count that against them? Oh yea, about NY accents, Prodigy, Shyne, Anyone from Imfamous Mobb, Kay Slay, Nature, they don't have an accent? To me they do. So, let's not pull the intelligence card. And, LOL @ still bringing up Pink. I swear you must've really wanted to be there, because you're BEYOND fixated with that. Poor kid.
FIRST off its a computer message board.. like i can give 2 fucks how my grammer is. if im writing an essay for school than imma give a fuck bout my grammer but not on a message board there. back to the accents. hate to break it 2 ya but in ny those rappers voices arent considered new york accents. i suggest you go to ny to find out what a ny accent is there. an fixated on pink. its was proved i wasnt the one that told every1. i wasnt the one that made any topics about it. so how am i fixated on it. why b/c i mentioned it so what hardly consider that being fixated on it. but oh well u have a weird way of looking at things. hey i said i dont like most souther rappers b/c of an accent i was a hater. even tho there are a few that i listen to. wont front i dont listen to many an there are proberly a lot of rappers in the south that dont fall under the catagory of being crunk an dont have thick southern that i have never heard of. but than again i dont take this rap shit as serious as you do. an i dont insult people who dont listen to the same shit as me like you. i dont put down some1 if they dont kno as much about rap as i do. i dont have to go out an make points about how i kno more than every1 else in one topic like you. your go mad knowledge on the rap game but ur a fuckin asshole
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SGV, would you listen to rap with heavy Iranian accents?
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SGV to tell u the truth u dont know shit about Southern Rap...
i mean u never heard of Geurilla Maab (Trae, Z-Ro, and Dougie D) or S.L.A.B. you prolly dont know shit about Swisha (Mike Jones and Magno) everyone knows the real good southern rap is from Tx not gay ass lil jon or ying yang twins hell luda cant even compare to the shit G-maab be rapping about... so ill just let Love above school u on what u need to know...
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all i gots to say is you can't stereotype a geographical group of rap, just because many (probably not even the majority) do it one way
This is my point. This thread was about South haters and look at the abundance of people who dislike "Crunk Music." It's almost as if that's all they know out of the South. It's a generalization and stereotype, hence hating.
love_above. Thanks for letting me know about who started the slowed down music. Didn't know that. But, sorry to tell you. I knew about Lil Jon from the So So Def Bass All Star albums. If I'm not mistaken Inoj was his artist. Whether you want to believe it or not, is up to you. That's where I found out about Lil Jon.
Tom, point is, don't pull an intelligence card if you don't even spell 'Grammar' right. I know what an NY accent is, that's where my pops is from. He was born and raised in Brooklyn. But, to me, Prodigy and them have an accent I rarely hear anywhere else but in Blacks from NY. To you it's not an accent, that's where you're from. Also, trust me, I'm don't take Hip Hop too serious. I am not losing one bit of sleep over anything in Hip Hop. This is a message board. Remember how upset you would get when people would diss Mobb Deep? LOL.
NIK, I'd listen to anything. For example, I have no clue what Punjabi MC says, but the beats, flow and melodies are tight. So I dig his music.
Lost Mind, Geurilla Maab don't mean nothing to me. I'm not a Z-Ro fan. Swisha House, I bought their debut album in 99. The Day Hell Broke Loose or whatever. Ask anyone here, I've been talking about Paul Wall & Chamillion for years. I've been bumping Texas music for years. From Lil Keke to ESG, H.A.W.K. to Mddl Fngz. So, I got no clue what you're yapping about.
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Tom, point is, don't pull an intelligence card if you don't even spell 'Grammar' right. I know what an NY accent is, that's where my pops is from. He was born and raised in Brooklyn. But, to me, Prodigy and them have an accent I rarely hear anywhere else but in Blacks from NY. To you it's not an accent, that's where you're from. Also, trust me, I'm don't take Hip Hop too serious. I am not losing one bit of sleep over anything in Hip Hop. This is a message board. Remember how upset you would get when people would diss Mobb Deep? LOL.
when did i ever get upset when people dssed mobb deep b/c i never have. so please dont make shit up. an its a computer board like i give a fuck about my grammer an spelling
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When I first started posting here, Mobb Deep was a touchy subject for you. All I'm saying about your grammar is this. Don't call out my intelligence while you're showing a lack of intelligence, with bad spelling.
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lmao @ SGV...why make funs of someones intelligence based on the way their grammar is on the internet? thats fuckin dumb dude. if you're going to make fun of someones intelligence go to the TOT section and pick out all the dumbass comments people say and make fun of them for that.
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Got damn! I'm always the bad guy ain't I? Tom called me out on my intelligence, so I turned the tables on him. Don't make this about me. If you can't take what you dish out, then don't bother.
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the point of this thread was that most of us who posted in here do dislike "crunk music" BUT do not base our hate on the south on that
i mean cmon SGV several others and me listed certain southern rappers that we like, we just dislike the "crunk" music, no hate from me or anyone else
i mean props to Lil Jon to making it big but his music is not to my liking
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This is my point. This thread was about South haters and look at the abundance of people who dislike "Crunk Music." It's almost as if that's all they know out of the South. It's a generalization and stereotype, hence hating.
dude you're the one not understanding what people have been saying. all you're doing is zoning in on the word "Crunk"...yes most people have mentioned crunk music. but do you really expect us to tell you what we like and don't like without saying what we dont like? that makes no sense.
and yes you're always the bad guy...or atleast when you make stupid ass threads like this and make even stupider comments inside of them.
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all i gots to say is you can't stereotype a geographical group of rap, just because many (probably not even the majority) do it one way
This is my point. This thread was about South haters and look at the abundance of people who dislike "Crunk Music." It's almost as if that's all they know out of the South. It's a generalization and stereotype, hence hating.
love_above. Thanks for letting me know about who started the slowed down music. Didn't know that. But, sorry to tell you. I knew about Lil Jon from the So So Def Bass All Star albums. If I'm not mistaken Inoj was his artist. Whether you want to believe it or not, is up to you. That's where I found out about Lil Jon.
Tom, point is, don't pull an intelligence card if you don't even spell 'Grammar' right. I know what an NY accent is, that's where my pops is from. He was born and raised in Brooklyn. But, to me, Prodigy and them have an accent I rarely hear anywhere else but in Blacks from NY. To you it's not an accent, that's where you're from. Also, trust me, I'm don't take Hip Hop too serious. I am not losing one bit of sleep over anything in Hip Hop. This is a message board. Remember how upset you would get when people would diss Mobb Deep? LOL.
NIK, I'd listen to anything. For example, I have no clue what Punjabi MC says, but the beats, flow and melodies are tight. So I dig his music.
Lost Mind, Geurilla Maab don't mean nothing to me. I'm not a Z-Ro fan. Swisha House, I bought their debut album in 99. The Day Hell Broke Loose or whatever. Ask anyone here, I've been talking about Paul Wall & Chamillion for years. I've been bumping Texas music for years. From Lil Keke to ESG, H.A.W.K. to Mddl Fngz. So, I got no clue what you're yapping about.
im not talking about them im talking about Mike Jones and Magno and G-maab and if u dont like them u aint gonna like no one in Tx cuzz they the best and biggest names in Tx right now...
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mayne tha maab,face,ccc,grit boys and hawk is tha best thing in tx..
but only outsiders would think mike n mag r tha best things..niggas in tx dont really even pay these clowns no minds...now cleveland they r big..
but mike jones...he is trash real texans dont like this...they album was a disappointment...and he became played out after tha 1000th time mike said who ...mike jones..
magno is tight...his lil brother is better than he is..young slugga be wreckin mic's
if u dont like mike jones....u r a smart man or female period..kuz he is annoyin he says tha same ol shit,same catch phrase..he is a broken record...
but mag...he is good...he jus is hooked up with a dumb ass...
and swishahouse is trash they aint been tha same since 99..they came in tha game with like 11 good rappers and only got 3 rappers left...and only 2 r good...paul and mag
biggest names in tx..yep in 2001 them niggas have fallin off big time...
sgv u should listen to guerilla maab...4serious..i dont like z-ro my damn self...but his cousins trae and dougie d..mayne...they eat up microphones...ro is okay sometimes but when he is with them..mayne..and tha maab is in tha s.u.c
and slab is like tha lil click ...trae and dougie d had formed..ro isnt too much involved wit this..this is a click that trae really formed kuz he had a disagreement wit fellow suc rapper grace(useta rhyme wit yungstar)..slab is a accronym 4 ,slow loud and bangin...and grace had dislike sumthin trae had said..and made tha freestyle..sounds,like,another,biter...and they have been beefin ever since..its dead now...
z-ro,he shows up every now and then..on slab mixtapes.....he would be on like 3 freestyles out tha whole mixtape..but tha rest is jus dougie d,trae tha rest of they homeboys..and a couple of s.u.c members..mostly 3-2,mike d, redd,and grace who was on tha earlier vol's
if u wanna get on slab..start a tvol 3...its tha best 1 imo..tha infamous 50cent diss is on it..the diss is aight..but tha freestyles on it is..nice as hell... then goto slab vol4 then back 2 1,and 2..slab is waaaaaaaaaaay better than tha shit swishahouse and ccc put out...
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yeah your right mike aint that bigg no more and magno is tight tho... but for real G-maab is tight and bigg in TX
G-maab goes like this in my order
1.Dougie D (my favrite he is the thoedest with the best voice and flow VERY underrated)
2.Trae (bad ass solo album and thoed typea flow only thing holdem him down is his voice kinda plain if u ax me)
3.Z-ro (dont get me wrong i like this mutha fucca but he is my least favrite what can i say?)
o yeah and love above what happen to Penny? i havent seen that foo on aim for a while where that foo at?
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yeah your right mike aint that bigg no more and magno is tight tho... but for real G-maab is tight and bigg in TX
G-maab goes like this in my order
1.Dougie D (my favrite he is the thoedest with the best voice and flow VERY underrated)
2.Trae (bad ass solo album and thoed typea flow only thing holdem him down is his voice kinda plain if u ax me)
3.Z-ro (dont get me wrong i like this mutha fucca but he is my least favrite what can i say?)
o yeah and love above what happen to Penny? i havent seen that foo on aim for a while where that foo at?
mayne ion even much know where that cake is at..prolly somewhere usin my pictures sayin he's me like he did over here.on englewood's forum...and on the layitlow forum..he aint on aim nomore ..kuz he prolly got a new name...all tha people he done betrayed on this bitch...dude use niggas 4 what he wants...be buddy buddy with ya...and then stab ya in tha back...he was cool with me...i seen all tha lil gay shit he useta do...until one of tha homies hit me up from layitlow..and on dj-quik.net sayin he was usin my shit.....
what kind of nigga save another dude pictures and go from site to site sayin he is that dude??
neway..
yea...trae voice is kinda weak..its betta slowed down...dougie d is better all around...and ro he is good in spots...
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dude you're the one not understanding what people have been saying. all you're doing is zoning in on the word "Crunk"...yes most people have mentioned crunk music. but do you really expect us to tell you what we like and don't like without saying what we dont like? that makes no sense.
I understand that people don't like Crunk music. But, THAT IS NOT THE WHOLE SOUTH. That is my point.
I can name you so many artists from the South who don't make Crunk music. Why is it when I hear "Awww fuck the South. That Crunk shit is wack." Tell me that's not a generalization. Just like I said with the West and gangsta shit. It's a generalization people make and it's lame. Understand that Crunk music is only made by a handfull of artists.
and yes you're always the bad guy...or atleast when you make stupid ass threads like this and make even stupider comments inside of them.
This coming from the same guy I have to save in every thread. LOL.
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c'mon now you've only saved me once or twice. and i've done the same for you before. but yes you are correct that is a generalization. but isnt it the same as when people talk about underground and somebody says something like "i hate rap that is all scientific"...like all underground is scientific.
the point is its not the way they say it but the way they mean it and the way you take it. we all said we dont like crunk music. but most of us listed the artists we do like which totally fucks up your point. its not like in every post anywhere about the south we're going to list who we like and dont like.
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I like the above, only because they're not the conventional south rappers. I have a stereotypical image of southern rappers, who are covered top to bottom in their bling, with their gold teeth, and their hideous crunk music. Trick Daddy and Lil Jon, just to name a few, fit this category.
That was pretty much the people I was aiming at. People who make these stereotypes and generalization.
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the reason i said 3-6 bandwagon asses..issssss
1. bone and 3-6 beef in tha early 90's..they came into tha game on that dark devil like shit...sametime bone came in with it..krayzie bone even said he made up tha harmonizin part of bone's style while he was locked up ..when he accidently shot wish...but 3-6 was makin a big fuss sayin eazy e came to memphis and jack they shit...was eazy e apart of bone enterprise..no...was bone jus now formin tha dark sound they was usin...yep...its funny how a group could steal a style they started off with..whille all of the members was in out of jail..and the people that claim they started tha style..dont even use tha style ..and tha claimer stole tha style they bitchin about from kingpin skinny pimp...but they dont speak on that shit..bone continue to use tha same style...if that was a big ass problem enough to start a beef how come they stop usin tha style and start dissectin members that were tha originators of tha foundation??hmmm..maybe they saw tha bone could sell millions and wanted to jump on that wagon..
b. cash money /no limit bling and ballin era- 3-6..how tha fuck u go from bein on tha satanic vibe to bein a baller ....once again they rode that wagon that was big in that era until it died out..
3.tx - syrup sippin and 20inch trend that was started by dj screw's screwed up click-i aint gone lie...cashmoney and no limit bit this style...that started growin in 92...screw and his click always was speakin on 20inch blades,rims,etc and syrup.nobody else was speakin on it...dont believe go listen to a couple of screw tapes that was label 92-94 not watts or ron-c but screw....3-6 bit this style hard as fuck...sippin on syrup...that shit was a slap...how u go from on tha satanic vibe,bein a baller to a screwhead?? tha emergence(sp?) of lil flip made this style real big...and this style is were we are now...notice how all of tha 3-6 affiliates have chopped and slowed album..( i will not say chopped and screw..becuz screw is dead and he didnt mix it..out of respect)
isnt bandwagon- to jock and ride whatever is new until tha next phase come around??
its difference btw evolving and becomin better to jackin each new style that emerges..
evolving= eminem's rap skills back in 90 to now..2pac skills from-90-96,dr. dre's wreckin cru producin style to now...thats evolving...
lil jon is tha south....crunk is a a phrase started by people in ga...it wasnt a style of music until lil jon did it...and everything that sounded like his shit fell up under tha label...if stuff that wasnt labeled crunk be4 hand did..like pastor troy shit,3-6 tear tha club up shit..etc...hell wasnt lil jon on tha cover of tha source as the newsouth??
jon ass is jus as south as screw and michael watts...thats like sayin crip hop and g-funk aint west coast...
and quit sayin chingy,nelly,and others like em r from tha south...they speak southern slang. hell what was tha purpose of tha midwest swang song??
i get it man, i only heard the unbreakables album from 3-6...
still didn't hear too much of the others, so can you tell me on what songs you can see they turned from satanic shit (on what tracks they did that?) to ballers and then to screwheads? i mean where do you recognize each style?
I can only see gangsta and weed shit in they style in the unbreakables...
and whats 20inch blades,rims, and that syrup shit?
is that some car shit?
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Southern artists I dislike and why:
Everyone from Cash Money. No skills, cheesy beats
Master P because he's a biter. I do like "Make You Say Uhh" but that's because of the beats and the other rappers (Mia X, Mystikal) that make the song.
Petey Pablo because he's annoying and screams to damn much
Miracle because he's a wack Mystikal biter
All that crunk shit I can't stand it period.
Artists I like from the south:
Outkast
Goodie Mob
Mystikal
Killer Mike
Ludacris
Devin the Dude
Scarface
Geto Boys
Big Mike
UGK
T-Rock
I certainly don't hate the south and I don't think anyone in this thread hates the south. People dislike the crunk music and the shouting or chants or whatever you call that.
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you know what artist i did really enjoy that hasnt dropped anything lately...remember "Drama"...his album wasnt that hot but his singles were good...i wouldnt mind hearing another album from him.
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you know what artist i did really enjoy that hasnt dropped anything lately...remember "Drama"...his album wasnt that hot but his singles were good...i wouldnt mind hearing another album from him.
"Left... Left... Left, Right, Left!"...LMAO, that fool sucked ass.
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1. SGV, you answered your own question when you said "to ME their accent doesn't matter". Do you understand the concept that people are different? What matters to you might not matter to others, and vice-versa. Maybe you're just a bit more open-minded compared to others, and I'm sure there are some people here who have a more open mind than you do. People have their own reasons for liking or disliking certain things. Just because my reason is "ignorant" to you, doesn't mean that I have no reason to dislike it. Not everyone is SGV, and dislikes only those things for which he or she has a concrete reason. If you're so open-minded about music, you should be able to open your mind to the fact that people think differently.
2. You seem to love to get technical about grammar, and judge another's intelligence by the way he posts on the board, so here are some excerpts out of 1 POST of yours:
"Didn't know that. But, sorry to tell you. I knew... " ::)
"Also, trust me, I'm don't take Hip Hop too serious." ::)
"Lost Mind, Geurilla Maab don't mean nothing to me." Try replacing that with "doesn't mean anything".
"The Day Hell Broke Loose or whatever." ::)
"From Lil Keke to ESG, H.A.W.K. to Mddl Fngz." ::)
Here is where I prove what I said earlier. You think that grammar on a message board is a way to define a person's intelligence, I don't. However, YOU SEEM TO HAVE TROUBLE WRITING COMPLETE SENTENCES. So next time you criticize someone, make sure you're not doing exactly what you criticize him for.
Now you can read through my post and search for some mistakes. I might have made some, but unlike you, I don't believe it has anything to do with my intelligence. Have a good day. :)
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people from the south I like:
mr. malik, scarface, devin, eightball & MJG, Tela, 5th Ward Boyz, Ghetto Boyz, old Outkast, old Master P.
^^^ but I don't listen to any of those guys much, only occasionally.
people from the south I can't stand:
Lil' Jon is one of my most hated artists, along with bone crusher. I hate mystical, ESG and Slim Thugg. I don't like ludacris. bubba spanxx - dunno where he is from, but don't like him. there is others, for the most part I won't even bother checking out any artists from the south cause 9 times outta 10 I am gonna hate them.
artists who I been listening to lately:
basically I listen to all the westcoast artists I can and not much outside of that.
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1. SGV, you answered your own question when you said "to ME their accent doesn't matter". Do you understand the concept that people are different? What matters to you might not matter to others, and vice-versa. Maybe you're just a bit more open-minded compared to others, and I'm sure there are some people here who have a more open mind than you do. People have their own reasons for liking or disliking certain things. Just because my reason is "ignorant" to you, doesn't mean that I have no reason to dislike it. Not everyone is SGV, and dislikes only those things for which he or she has a concrete reason. If you're so open-minded about music, you should be able to open your mind to the fact that people think differently.
2. You seem to love to get technical about grammar, and judge another's intelligence by the way he posts on the board, so here are some excerpts out of 1 POST of yours:
"Didn't know that. But, sorry to tell you. I knew... " ::)
"Also, trust me, I'm don't take Hip Hop too serious." ::)
"Lost Mind, Geurilla Maab don't mean nothing to me." Try replacing that with "doesn't mean anything".
"The Day Hell Broke Loose or whatever." ::)
"From Lil Keke to ESG, H.A.W.K. to Mddl Fngz." ::)
Here is where I prove what I said earlier. You think that grammar on a message board is a way to define a person's intelligence, I don't. However, YOU SEEM TO HAVE TROUBLE WRITING COMPLETE SENTENCES. So next time you criticize someone, make sure you're not doing exactly what you criticize him for.
Now you can read through my post and search for some mistakes. I might have made some, but unlike you, I don't believe it has anything to do with my intelligence. Have a good day. :)
I guess that did it. 8)
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This thread is still around?
Osama Iz A G: Thanks for finding my mistakes. But, uh...that was directed at Tom, not you. So, don't worry about it, since it don't concern you.