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Title: Your next American President
Post by: JTSimon on January 10, 2004, 11:32:31 AM
Dr. Howard Dean rally photo
http://photos.deanforamerica.com/photos/599365-L-2.jpg (http://photos.deanforamerica.com/photos/599365-L-2.jpg)


Gov. Howard Dean, MD and wife Dr. Judith Steinberg Dean, MD
http://photos.deanforamerica.com/photos/421435-M-1.jpg (http://photos.deanforamerica.com/photos/421435-M-1.jpg)


http://photos.deanforamerica.com/ (http://photos.deanforamerica.com/)
http://deancore.blogspot.com/deanpics.htm (http://deancore.blogspot.com/deanpics.htm)
collection of photos



Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: 7even on January 10, 2004, 12:24:19 PM
check the current newsweek, cover-title is concerning dean
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: JTSimon on January 10, 2004, 12:36:54 PM
check the current newsweek, cover-title is concerning dean

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3869798/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3869798/)

thanks
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: Don Seer on January 10, 2004, 02:38:32 PM
arnie!


Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: Suga Foot on January 10, 2004, 03:03:37 PM
^You have to be born in the US to be president I think.  So luckily, Arnie will never become prez.  Maybe Al Sharpton tho? lol, thad be dope.
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: Lincoln on January 10, 2004, 03:47:31 PM
I really like Howard Dean. He might say stupid shit once in a while but at least he always speaks his mind. If I lived in America I'd vote for him.
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: HIPPI on January 11, 2004, 03:04:41 AM
^You have to be born in the US to be president I think.  So luckily, Arnie will never become prez.  Maybe Al Sharpton tho? lol, thad be dope.

I don't think you have to be born in the U.S., I'm not 100% sure on this one though. I believe you have to be a citizen for 14 years, and at least 35 years of age.
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: JTSimon on January 11, 2004, 08:47:13 AM
President and Vice President

Candidates must be at least 35 years old, a natural-born citizen of the United States, and a resident of the United States for at least 14 years.


 :)


http://sos.state.mt.us/textonly/ELB/File_for_Office.asp (http://sos.state.mt.us/textonly/ELB/File_for_Office.asp)
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: M Dogg™ on January 11, 2004, 08:39:52 PM
A Dennis Kucinich/Wesly Clark ticket would be golden. My two cents on who should face George W. Bush/Dick Cheney
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: HIPPI on January 11, 2004, 08:48:41 PM
A Dennis Kucinich/Wesly Clark ticket would be golden. My two cents on who should face George W. Bush/Dick Cheney

Dennis Kucinich has the best ideals, plans, and goals for this country; however, he doesn't stand a chance because he's too liberal (not a wide support) and not enough money. Since I'm a "ANYBODY BUT BUSH VOTER", I would vote for someone who has a chance of winning, and not throw my vote away, so I'll be voting for Dean.
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: M Dogg™ on January 11, 2004, 08:50:05 PM
A Dennis Kucinich/Wesly Clark ticket would be golden. My two cents on who should face George W. Bush/Dick Cheney

Dennis Kucinich has the best ideals, plans, and goals for this country; however, he doesn't stand a chance because he's too liberal (not a wide support) and not enough money. Since I'm a "ANYBODY BUT BUSH VOTER", I would vote for someone who has a chance of winning, and not throw my vote away, so I'll be voting for Dean.

Hey.... I'm in the same boat you are... but I'm just hoping Kucinich has some hope. Who knows... that Truman picture is up for a reason. That's going to be up until the elections.
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: HIPPI on January 11, 2004, 08:54:27 PM
Yes, but he would have to win the primary, which I don't think he will. :-\
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on January 11, 2004, 11:52:17 PM
^You have to be born in the US to be president I think.  So luckily, Arnie will never become prez.  Maybe Al Sharpton tho? lol, thad be dope.

I don't think you have to be born in the U.S., I'm not 100% sure on this one though. I believe you have to be a citizen for 14 years, and at least 35 years of age.


Wrong...You have to be born here.
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: HIPPI on January 12, 2004, 12:16:28 AM
I said I wasn't 100% sure and this was already posted.

President and Vice President

Candidates must be at least 35 years old, a natural-born citizen of the United States, and a resident of the United States for at least 14 years.


 :)


http://sos.state.mt.us/textonly/ELB/File_for_Office.asp (http://sos.state.mt.us/textonly/ELB/File_for_Office.asp)
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: Woodrow on January 19, 2004, 10:02:46 PM
LOL @ 18%
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: [Stoned]Jesus H. Christ[Wheat] on January 19, 2004, 10:12:59 PM
imma be ytout prestidentt!!!!!!! whgynn there no drinking smilyet thingy!??>!>$ONRASF!!@@# HAHAH!
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: Don Jacob on January 19, 2004, 11:35:15 PM
how the fu ck is howard dean gonna beat bush when he can't beat kerry in iowa?!
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: Trauma-san on January 20, 2004, 05:53:25 AM
I think Dean's lying is catching up with him, this fucker can't lie worth a shit.  He totally denies shit that has been printed or recorded, quoted as him saying it.  For instance, he said 2 years ago that the Iowa caucauses don't mean shit, in an interview.  Somebody asked him if he still believes that, this motherfucker says "I've never said that".  They roll tape, and he changes his opinion.

He says in people magazine that he had a panic attack when he was sworn in as gov. of Vermont, and they ask him how he's going to lead the country, then.  He says "I never said that, people magazine never said that" when it's right there in black and white.  

He says the south is about being the candidate for "Guys with confederate flags in their pickup trucks" ? What?  That turned the entire south off to him.  Then he starts mouthing off about "nascar" and all kinds of shit, lol.  THEN he says we need to stop deciding elections based on "Race, Guns, and God"... when he's in the north.  When he's in the south, he introduces himself as 'a christian'.  

The guy's just getting hammered left and right by these other guys.  

He criticised Bush on his energy plan, and not making the docs public, but yet in Vermont, he also had an energy plan that he never made the docs public on.  Goes on and on and on, I think he believes we're too stupid to research any of his claims or denials.  
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: Trauma-san on January 20, 2004, 05:55:23 AM
Oh, wait, the latest one was, lol, he left Iowa early, to go down south to a Jimmy Carter appearance.  They ask him why, and he says Carter invited him, he didn't have anything to do with the timing.  They ask Carter about it, and he didn't invite anybody, lol Dean offered to go.  Lying motherfucker.  
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: JTSimon on January 20, 2004, 09:50:06 AM
1988 Iowa Caucus result

Democrats                                      Republicans
             
Richard Gephardt   31.3%   27.4%       Robert Dole      40,661      37.4%
Paul Simon         26.7%   24.8%         Pat Robertson    26,761      24.6%
Michael Dukakis    22.2%   20.5%        George Bush      20,194      18.6%  
Jesse Jackson       8.8%   11.1%         Jack Kemp        12,088      11.1%
Bruce Babbit        6.1%    9.2%         Pete DuPont       7,999       7.3%
Uncommitted         4.5%    6.0%         No Preference       739       0.7%
Gary Hart           0.3%    1.0%         Alexander Haig      364       0.3%
Albert Gore         0.0%    0.2%

Yellow depicts front runners.
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: Woodrow on January 20, 2004, 10:17:06 AM
Dean is a FREAK!!

Listen to him loose his temper and go CRAZY at a speech he did last night.
http://www.drudgereport.com/dean.mp3

I REALLY don't want this dude to be anywhere near a position of power.
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040120/capt.pcs11001200429.democrats_dean_pcs110.jpg)
(http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040120/i/r1692326033.jpg)

I really kind of like John Edwards to tell you the truth. He seems like a down to earth, family man. I don't think I'd vote for him, but I respect him. Thats more than I can say about any of the other democratic hopefull's out there.
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: JTSimon on January 20, 2004, 10:22:26 AM
Dean is a FREAK!!

Listen to him loose his temper and go CRAZY at a speech he did last night.
http://www.drudgereport.com/dean.mp3

I REALLY don't want this dude to be anywhere near a position of power.
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040120/capt.pcs11001200429.democrats_dean_pcs110.jpg)
(http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040120/i/r1692326033.jpg)

I really kind of like John Edwards to tell you the truth. He seems like a down to earth, family man. I don't think I'd vote for him, but I respect him. Thats more than I can say about any of the other democratic hopefull's out there.

Thank You
I loved that shit....WWE style  ;D

You see Drudge's dedication to Dean...he knows Dean is the only one that can beat Bush.
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: Lincoln on January 20, 2004, 10:28:24 AM
Dean is a FREAK!!

Listen to him loose his temper and go CRAZY at a speech he did last night.
http://www.drudgereport.com/dean.mp3

LOL That shit was great. You gotta do it that way sometimes.

"Force my opinion with VOLUME!" Chuck D.
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: Woodrow on January 20, 2004, 10:29:19 AM
Thank You
I loved that shit....WWE style  ;D

Wow... So that is what you want out of your next president? WWE style antics? I'll just let your comments speak for themselves.
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: JTSimon on January 20, 2004, 10:59:02 AM
Thank You
I loved that shit....WWE style  ;D

Wow... So that is what you want out of your next president? WWE style antics? I'll just let your comments speak for themselves.


WWE style speeches  ;D


Watch this....Dean rally...Ripping Bush

http://mfile.akamai.com/10608/wmv/images.deanforamerica.com/video/iabus/011804_judy_cedar_rapids_256k.asx (http://mfile.akamai.com/10608/wmv/images.deanforamerica.com/video/iabus/011804_judy_cedar_rapids_256k.asx)
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: [Stoned]Jesus H. Christ[Wheat] on January 20, 2004, 11:02:24 AM
that was some funny stuff, sorry for my drunk postings last night  ;D (can you tell when I was drunk  ;D ;D)
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: JTSimon on January 20, 2004, 11:08:23 AM
that was some funny stuff, sorry for my drunk postings last night  ;D (can you tell when I was drunk  ;D ;D)

I heard thats how W. Bush became president?
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: Trauma-san on January 21, 2004, 07:02:18 PM
Dean is a FREAK!!

Listen to him loose his temper and go CRAZY at a speech he did last night.
http://www.drudgereport.com/dean.mp3

I REALLY don't want this dude to be anywhere near a position of power.
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040120/capt.pcs11001200429.democrats_dean_pcs110.jpg)
(http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040120/i/r1692326033.jpg)


See, this is what I don't get.  Everybody acts like Bush is a warmonger, but this fucker Dean has blood dripping from his fangs.  I guarantee you, within 2 months of Office, he'd bomb canada.  Something about the red on the flag would piss him off, and he'd go hunting for the nuke codes.  
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on January 21, 2004, 08:47:17 PM
fuck i wanna see this shit....the link doesnt work no more
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: JTSimon on January 21, 2004, 09:04:59 PM
fuck i wanna see this shit....the link doesnt work no more

It was an audio.

But I found the VIDEO LINK

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,109117,00.html (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,109117,00.html)  :D
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: JTSimon on January 21, 2004, 09:07:08 PM
Dean is a FREAK!!

Listen to him loose his temper and go CRAZY at a speech he did last night.
http://www.drudgereport.com/dean.mp3

I REALLY don't want this dude to be anywhere near a position of power.


See, this is what I don't get.  Everybody acts like Bush is a warmonger, but this fucker Dean has blood dripping from his fangs.  I guarantee you, within 2 months of Office, he'd bomb canada.  Something about the red on the flag would piss him off, and he'd go hunting for the nuke codes.  

STFU...idiot.
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: Woodrow on January 21, 2004, 09:57:22 PM
No YOU Shut the fuck up...

Fucking moron...

You've got no clue about the real world.
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: Trauma-san on January 21, 2004, 10:15:44 PM
Back to the topic, the next american President will be George W. Bush.  As for the democratic contenders, it's going to come down to Kerry and Edwards, they're the 2 that have a shot at winning the nomination, and aren't so totally psycho that they have a little bit of credibility left.  Kerry is a war hero, so that will help him with the credibility factor, and Edwards is kind of a fresh face, nobody outside the good state of North Carolina really knows much about him.  He also is a down to earth guy, and looking that damn good can't hurt either.  Dean has absolutely no shot at winning this, because of the dozens of things the other democrats have assaulted him on, mainly, but also because of his temper, constantly being caught up in lies, saying things, then denying he said them, he just doesn't act very professional.  Clark doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell, because he's obviously a pawn of the Clintons, recruited in the late hour... he even supported the war a year ago, and testified to congress that it was just! Now he goes around criticising it, and when they bring up that he supported it, he changes the subject.  He even went so far as to hold a fundraiser for George Bush!  So with him the credibility is really an issue.  People just aren't going to believe what he says because all you have to do is look at the newspapers from a year ago, he's done a total flip flop.  Kerry has too, but he's been ever so sneaky about it, lol, so he may get away with it.  Kerry & Edwards are the 2 to watch in this one.  Of course either will lose, but look in 2008 for the democrats to show a strong run with Hillary Clinton and Al Gore running against each other in the primaries.  
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: ecrazy on January 21, 2004, 11:47:31 PM
Well, For Being A Democrat, None Of The Democrats Seem That Appealing To Me, Seriously, And on Most Of The issues, i agree with Bush on...I guess growing up really changed me, just 4 years ago i was all like "Fuck bush" and all this bullshit, but when it comes down to it, he's really doing a ok job, but the whole war thing needs to end, thats where i stand

Hillary Clinton For PRESIDENT 2008
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: JTSimon on January 22, 2004, 06:15:09 AM
No YOU Shut the fuck up...

Fucking moron...

You've got no clue about the real world.


Quote
I guarantee you, within 2 months of Office, he'd bomb canada.

^So you agree with Head Trauma...make sense since your both on Bush's nutsack.

I like the pic in your sig...Its true W Bush is pimping this country.


lol living in Eugene, Oregon I'm sure you know what the real world is about.



Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: Woodrow on January 22, 2004, 11:04:22 AM
Sigh...

Those debate tactics won't work...

What I see is:

You're losing the argument so you either

a. Change the subject
b. Attack the person you're debating personaly
c. Run away like a school girl.

I thought you were gonna quit posting here?
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: Don Jacob on January 22, 2004, 11:36:16 AM
Sigh...

Those debate tactics won't work...

What I see is:

You're losing the argument so you either

a. Change the subject
b. Attack the person you're debating personaly
c. Run away like a school girl.

I thought you were gonna quit posting here?

^lol


max you make yourself look dumber and dumber ever day.........
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: JTSimon on January 22, 2004, 01:17:24 PM
lol this is my old thread and I refuse to allow you 3 idiots to get last word.
So if you wanna get rid of me stop posting in my threads.


Head Trauma we know how your predictions on Iraq have turned out ;D
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: Lincoln on January 22, 2004, 05:42:45 PM


See, this is what I don't get.  Everybody acts like Bush is a warmonger, but this fucker Dean has blood dripping from his fangs.  I guarantee you, within 2 months of Office, he'd bomb canada.  Something about the red on the flag would piss him off, and he'd go hunting for the nuke codes.  

Nah man he's a little nutty but I don't think he's into war at all. I personally like Dean, but no way in Hell he'll win. If Kerry gets the Democratic nomination I almost guarantee he will win.
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: JTSimon on January 22, 2004, 06:26:29 PM
 ;D

January 13 District of Columbia, non-binding presidential primary
 19 Iowa caucuses
 27  New Hampshire presidential primary

February 3 Arizona presidential primary
Delaware presidential primary
Missouri presidential primary
New Mexico Democratic caucuses
Oklahoma presidential primary
South Carolina Democratic presidential primary
Virginia GOP caucuses
North Dakota caucuses
7 Michigan Democratic caucuses
Washington Democratic caucuses
 8 Maine Democratic caucuses
 10 Tennessee presidential primary
Virginia presidential primary  
 14 District of Columbia Democratic caucuses
Nevada Democratic caucuses
  17 Wisconsin presidential primary
 24 Hawaii Democratic caucuses
Idaho Democratic caucuses
Michigan GOP presidential primary
Utah Democratic presidential primary
 27 Utah Democratic caucuses
  29 Hawaii GOP caucuses (starting Jan. 1)

March 2  California presidential/state primary
Connecticut presidential primary
Georgia presidential primary
Maryland presidential/state primary
Massachusetts presidential primary
Minnesota caucuses
New York presidential primary
North Dakota Democratic caucuses
Ohio presidential/state primary
Rhode Island presidential primary
Vermont presidential primary
Washington presidential primary
 9  Florida presidential primary
Louisiana presidential primary
Mississippi presidential/state primary
Texas presidential/state primary
  13 Kansas Democratic caucuses
 16 Illinois presidential/state primary
  19 Maine GOP caucuses (starting Jan. 1)
 20 Wyoming Democratic caucuses
 30 Mississippi runoff
Alaska Democratic caucuses
 
April  13  Texas runoff
Colorado caucuses
27 Pennsylvania presidential/state primary

May 4 Indiana presidential/state primary
North Carolina presidential/state primary
11 Nebraska presidential/state primary
West Virginia presidential/state primary
 18 Arkansas presidential/state primary
Kentucky presidential/state primary
Oregon presidential/state primary
 25 Idaho presidential/state primary

June  1  Alabama presidential/state primary
New Mexico presidential/state primary
North Carolina runoff
South Dakota presidential/state primary
8 Arkansas runoff
Iowa state primary
Maine state primary
Montana presidential/state primary
New Jersey presidential/state primary
North Dakota state primary
South Carolina state primary
Virginia state primary
 22 South Carolina runoff
Utah state primary
 29 Alabama runoff

 
July  20 Georgia state primary
  26-29 Democratic National Convention — Boston
  27 Oklahoma state primary

August 3  Kansas state primary
Michigan state primary
Missouri state primary
 5  Tennessee state primary
 10 Colorado state primary
Connecticut state primary
Georgia runoff
 17 Wyoming state primary
 24 Alaska state primary  
 Aug. 30- Sept. 2 GOP National Convention — New York
 31  Florida state primary

 
September 7 Arizona state primary
Nevada state primary
 11 Delaware state primary
 14 District of Columbia district primary
Massachusetts state primary
Minnesota state primary
New Hampshire state primary
New York state primary
Rhode Island state primary
Vermont state primary
Wisconsin state primary
 18 Hawaii state primary
Louisiana state primary
 21 Washington state primary

November  2 General election
December 4  Louisiana congressional runoff
 
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: Trauma-san on January 22, 2004, 09:29:48 PM


See, this is what I don't get.  Everybody acts like Bush is a warmonger, but this fucker Dean has blood dripping from his fangs.  I guarantee you, within 2 months of Office, he'd bomb canada.  Something about the red on the flag would piss him off, and he'd go hunting for the nuke codes.  

Nah man he's a little nutty but I don't think he's into war at all. I personally like Dean, but no way in Hell he'll win. If Kerry gets the Democratic nomination I almost guarantee he will win.

I will openly be available for wages, if anybody would like to bet on any democratic candidate, I'll take the bet.  
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: Lincoln on January 23, 2004, 08:44:41 PM


See, this is what I don't get.  Everybody acts like Bush is a warmonger, but this fucker Dean has blood dripping from his fangs.  I guarantee you, within 2 months of Office, he'd bomb canada.  Something about the red on the flag would piss him off, and he'd go hunting for the nuke codes.  

Nah man he's a little nutty but I don't think he's into war at all. I personally like Dean, but no way in Hell he'll win. If Kerry gets the Democratic nomination I almost guarantee he will win.

I will openly be available for wages, if anybody would like to bet on any democratic candidate, I'll take the bet.  

I thought you were Mormon, is it not against your codes to bet? It is in any other Abrahamic religion.
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: JTSimon on January 24, 2004, 04:36:12 PM
 ;D Good stuff

http://home.comcast.net/~cozdemir226/dean_throws_it_up_for_america.mp3 (http://home.comcast.net/~cozdemir226/dean_throws_it_up_for_america.mp3)
(Lil Jon and Howard Dean)  ;D classic

http://home.comcast.net/~erkan226/drdeandrdre.mp3 (http://home.comcast.net/~erkan226/drdeandrdre.mp3)
(Dr. Dre and Dr. Howard Dean)

HOWARD DEAN 4 PRESIDENT

GANGSTAS VOTE 4 HOWARD DEAN




original speech for those who didn't see it
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,109117,00.html (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,109117,00.html)


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Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: Woodrow on February 04, 2004, 05:33:42 PM
Final count: Kerry: 5, Edwards: 1, Clark: 1, Dean: 0

You moron.
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: Lincoln on February 04, 2004, 07:50:47 PM
Final count: Kerry: 5, Edwards: 1, Clark: 1, Dean: 0

You moron.

I knew Dean would lose (Unfortunately). I almost guarantee Kerry's gonna win.

BTW I read an article, Kerry's beating Bush in the polls by a little bit.
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: Woodrow on February 18, 2004, 01:21:03 PM
I Told you that you don't have a clue about the real world.
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: Don Jacob on February 18, 2004, 02:07:07 PM
(http://cdn.compuserve.com/cp/news/top/i/deandone135.jpg)
Dean Ends Campaign for White House

so much for being the next US president eh maxi


WASHINGTON (AP) - Howard Dean will end his campaign for the presidential nomination and oversee a new effort to keep his issues alive and his supporters organized on behalf of Democratic causes, two party officials said Wednesday.

Dean was to announce his plans at a news conference Wednesday afternoon, said the officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

The sources said the shape of the new effort is still to be determined but that Dean would eventually support the Democratic Party's nominee. One official said Dean would help elect Democrats to Congress in the fall.

Dean was mulling whether to endorse one of his rivals. John Edwards has been reaching out to Dean for several weeks, and the former Vermont governor has been impressed with the North Carolina senator and grateful that he has not criticized Dean, the officials said.

 
Still, the officials cautioned, the chance for endorsement remained slim.

 
Dean exits the active race certain in the knowledge that he will live on in the annals of U.S. politics for shattering Democratic fund-raising records with $41 million collected in a single year - as well as on late-night television and Internet parodies for a high-octane concession speech on the night of the Iowa caucuses that he's likely never to live down.

 
The former Vermont governor is the political equivalent of a supernova. Once a long-shot candidate, the Internet phenomenon filled his campaign coffers and attracted thousands of supporters through the spring and summer, pushing him to the head of the crowded Democratic field.

 
The leader in national polls - and more important state polls in the first states of Iowa and New Hampshire - Dean seemed poised to win the nomination in a runaway. In the end, he never won a single state through 17 contests.

 
Historians will judge, but Dean and his devoted supporters are convinced that they more than anyone else defined the Democratic debate through his unwavering criticism of President Bush, the Iraq war and Democrats who helped Bush push his agenda through Congress.

 
``Because of your work, we have already written the Democratic Party platform,'' Dean declared Monday night at an exuberant Madison rally that harkened to the heady days when he was more focused on a running mate than exiting the race.

 
For that latter part of 2003 and the early days of this year, Dean seemed untouchable, emerging from miscues and gaffes with yet another fund-raising record or high-profile endorsement.

 
Nothing could dissuade the 640,000 people who joined his campaign via his Web site. They contributed $41 million last year and then pumped millions more this year into a campaign that was faltering even before Iowans dealt the first blow.

 
Dean was the most unlikely of heroes for this movement of liberals, disaffected voters and youth. Born to wealth on New York's Park Avenue, his Yale pedigree was much closer to Bush's than the working people to whom he said he was giving voice.

 
As he left the Vermont governor's office in January 2003 after nearly 12 years, Dean had a presidential campaign staff of a half-dozen and about $157,000 in the bank.

 
But one of those staffers had found a then-obscure Internet organizing site, known as MeetUp.com. Dean became the first political candidate to sign up for it and suddenly thousands of people were finding him, organizing local events and fund-raisers and slowly making him a force.

 
His blunt speaking style and full-throated opposition to the Iraq war at a time when almost all of the other major contenders were trying to explain their support for it gave him an edge.

 
Even then he was still little more than an afterthought, but he had raised enough money to begin competing and was relentless in appearing everywhere he could. By February last year, he had begun focusing his criticism not just on Bush but on his fellow Democrats, accusing them of being too timid in fighting for the party's core principles.

 
``I'm Howard Dean and I represent the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party,'' Dean declared at a Democratic National Committee meeting in Washington last year that caught everyone's attention. The line had been a staple of the late Minnesota Sen. Paul Wellstone.

 
Dean tapped into Democrats' nagging belief that their national leaders had lost their way and were too blindly allowing Bush and the Republicans to set the agenda.

 
But even at that early stage there were signs of Dean's penchant for speaking before all the facts were straight. He apologized to rival John Edwards for mischaracterizing the North Carolina senator's position on the Iraq war, and offered his regrets to foe Bob Graham for dismissing him as a second-tier candidate.

 
Each misstep, though, seemed only to embolden Dean and his supporters.

 
After Dean's performance on NBC's ``Meet the Press'' last June was widely panned, supporters decided to prove the establishment wrong, raising more than $3 million over the Internet in just a week.

 
Suddenly, Dean appeared to be the man to beat. The ``People-Powered Howard'' movement had begun and the money kept rolling in.

 
It got his opponents' attention, too, and they stepped up the criticism. Dean stirred controversy in November for saying he wanted ``to be the candidate for guys with Confederate flags in their pickup trucks,'' then quieted the uproar by winning the endorsement of two of the country's largest unions - the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees and the Service Employees International Union.

 
Dean then snagged one of the biggest prizes - the backing of former Vice President Al Gore, the nominee in 2000.

 
Days before the Iowa caucuses, four-year-old tapes surfaced of Dean telling Canadian television that caucuses are dominated by special interests. He doused that firestorm quickly by winning the endorsement of Iowa Sen. Tom Harkin.

 
While it always appeared that Dean could emerge unscathed from the missteps, ultimately, it added up and voters decided to go with a familiar Washington face.

 
By the time the Iowa votes were counted, Dean had finished a distant third behind Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry and Edwards. It was the first election loss of his 20-year career. Then Dean ended his full-throttle concession speech with a scream that has played endlessly on the Internet and late-night talk shows.

 
Associated Press Writer Ross Sneyd in Burlington, Vt., contributed to this report.

 

02/18/04 10:08

 
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: JTSimon on February 18, 2004, 03:29:35 PM
http://edition.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/primaries/pages/scorecard/ (http://edition.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/primaries/pages/scorecard/)

Howard Dean was in second place I don't know why he resigned.

KERRY 608 Delegates
DEAN 201
EDWARDS 190

with like 1100 delegates to be voted on March 2.


lol like I was suppose to predict his crazy speech in IOWA.

Dean should have skipped Wisconsin and focused on CALIFORNIA.

John Edwards fucking ruined Wisconsin for him.


Oh well...I don't want KERRY or BUSH in office  ;D
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: JTSimon on February 18, 2004, 03:35:49 PM
LOL @ 18%


You entered this discussion the day of Dean first defeat...and then you acted like you been saying Dean would lose since day 1. Your a bandwagon bitch you'll go with any1 in the lead.

Idiot.
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: Trauma-san on February 18, 2004, 03:38:00 PM
VOTE DEMACRAT
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: Woodrow on February 18, 2004, 03:47:11 PM
LOL @ 18%


You entered this discussion the day of Dean first defeat...and then you acted like you been saying Dean would lose since day 1. Your a bandwagon bitch you'll go with any1 in the lead.

Idiot.

HAHAHAHAHAH! YOU LOOSE!
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: Trauma-san on February 18, 2004, 03:52:34 PM
(kinda like november)
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: JTSimon on February 18, 2004, 04:03:16 PM
LOL @ 18%


You entered this discussion the day of Dean first defeat...and then you acted like you been saying Dean would lose since day 1. Your a bandwagon bitch you'll go with any1 in the lead.

Idiot.

HAHAHAHAHAH! YOU LOOSE!

lol I'm so hurt.

Howard Dean lost and it was all his fault...I had nothing to do with it.

Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: Woodrow on February 18, 2004, 05:12:08 PM
Sigh...

Those debate tactics won't work...

What I see is:

You're losing the argument so you either

a. Change the subject
b. Attack the person you're debating personaly
c. Run away like a school girl.

I thought you were gonna quit posting here?

Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: JTSimon on February 18, 2004, 05:58:15 PM
Sigh...

Those debate tactics won't work...

What I see is:

You're losing the argument so you either

a. Change the subject
b. Attack the person you're debating personaly
c. Run away like a school girl.

I thought you were gonna quit posting here?


lol  ;D I see your on step A.
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: Don Jacob on February 18, 2004, 08:18:12 PM
^ last post huh........


 ::)
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: JTSimon on February 19, 2004, 06:34:52 AM
^ last post huh........


 ::)

Umm I'm the author of this thread.
Title: Re:Your next American President
Post by: Woodrow on February 19, 2004, 11:20:27 AM
Apparently he is not going to California, or Texas, or New York. He's not going to South Dakota, or Oregon, or Washington, or Michigan. He wont be going to Washington DC to take back the White House.

Yeeeaaaarrrrrgggghhhh!