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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: .:DayGoStyLz:. on January 13, 2004, 01:07:07 AM
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Anybody else think this is an unbelievable waste of time, and money? Im pretty sure none of the homeless people eating out of trash cans in our cities gives a shit about us finding any proof of life on Mars. I dunno, just curious whether u guys actually think this shit is important?
Oh...and if we DO find life on Mars, do u think George Bush will bomb them...take over their planet...and tell them that we're liberating them? lol
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lol.. well.. if we do need to leave this planet or find other resources.. isnt starting early the best time?
plus the US would have a whole planet! (sort of.. lol)
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lol.. well.. if we do need to leave this planet or find other resources.. isnt starting early the best time?
plus the US would have a whole planet! (sort of.. lol)
Its just kind of funny, to think about when we have to leave this planet...and we still havent fixed problems here yet. Maybe we could not only fuck THIS planet up...we could fuck up a whole other one also! lol
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fresh start away from trouble ;)
i dont think al quaeda have a base in the martian hills.. lol
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fresh start away from trouble ;)
i dont think al quaeda have a base in the martian hills.. lol
true...but they probably didnt have one in Iraq either...so Mars is still at risk of us blowing them out of space lol
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haha but.. theres a lot less likelyhood of an enemy within.
i think its important, but i'm not sure about it being funded over things like the homing/feeding the poor..
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Anybody else think this is an unbelievable waste of time, and money? Im pretty sure none of the homeless people eating out of trash cans in our cities gives a shit about us finding any proof of life on Mars. I dunno, just curious whether u guys actually think this shit is important?
Who cares about Homeless people ::)
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exactly..
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lol.. well.. if we do need to leave this planet or find other resources.. isnt starting early the best time?
plus the US would have a whole planet! (sort of.. lol)
We? No...some rich people.
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Visiting outer space is important for fuels and basic knowledge of the universe.
Cut back on money spent on asylum seekers and feed the homeless.
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Visiting outer space is important for fuels and basic knowledge of the universe.
Cut back on money spent on asylum seekers and feed the homeless.
ignorance. theres nothing wriong with people seeking asylum, they should be allowed to if they're fleeing a repressive regime etc etc.
the problem is those using it as an excuse to immigrate into our country.
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The Weapons of Mass Distruction are there. Bush iwill find those weapons, even if he has to look in Mars.
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I don't think it's a waste of time or money...
I guess I like to learn...
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paying trillions of dollars to send ppl to the moon is a total waste of money. oh and for ppl who think we may be able to move there think again! if its possible that option will only be open the bill gates and richard bransons of the world do u really think working class ppl can A afford to goto the moon B afford the cost of going from the moon to mars C supporting themselves with shelter, good living enviroment, food, water, what ever else they need to buy as they can't really just pop round the corner to the shop as it takes 6 months to travel there even if u got ppl coming in weekly you gotta give you shopping list 6 months b4 hand.
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I'm sure it'll be rich people visitin the moon at first, but who owned the first cars? Who owns cars now? Look at the big picture.
You people think advancment and learning is a sin or something...
"It's like talking astrophysics to a trick"
-Suga Free
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not everything goes that way i'm afraid, there will neva be a cheap way of getting into space due to the huge amounts of energy required to do it. when ur up there u got solar winds n shit but to get out of the atmosphere is a whole different story.
btw cars have been around for about 100 years and ppl been doin this space travel stuff for about 50 years and how many ppl own their own space shuttle? oh right none. ok how many ordinary citzens have been into space? 1. if think you can see how different the 2 things are
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I'm sure it'll be rich people visitin the moon at first, but who owned the first cars? Who owns cars now? Look at the big picture.
You people think advancment and learning is a sin or something...
"It's like talking astrophysics to a trick"
-Suga Free
learning is fine. but spending (wasting) money to learn about another planet...before using the money for something worthwhile like feeding the hungry? Even a Republican would agree that the homeless are more impor....nah nevermind. lol
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once again, it's all on budgets, nasa doesn't give food to the homeless cause they spend thier money on space travel and shit like that
why should we give a bigger bidget to asylum seekers when they over populate our cities with people seeking asylum. we can bomb the hell out of thier oppresive regime...depopulate their country and send them back?
and as for homeless...every country has homeless so it's not just the US that has this problem and is ignoring it...my mother came to visit me in japan and stayed at a 4 star hyatt in tokyo...and across the street in the park was like a whole town of bums....they don't spend thier money on big war machines....they don't have gun or school problems but yet they still have homeless. it's mostly the homeless peoples fault...it's not that hard to find a job, gather up a bunch of bum buddies and rent out a cheap appartment
and lastly space travel...yes space travel has been around for 50 years and cars have been around for 100 years.....they are still two different things....just like only the rich could afford boats and to go on planes...it's more of a safety issue than anything else....car crashes kill more people that and other kind of accident so imagine if we could all go out and buy planes, and space ships...it would be fucking chaos...we can't even control a 4 wheel mostly mechanical contraption that can be used by a single person, but you want every one flying around in space ships? and i'm sure if it came down to it, they'd build spaceships like those jumbo jets that can hold a couple hundred people and use that to repopulate a planet
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and as for homeless...every country has homeless so it's not just the US that has this problem and is ignoring it...
And everybody should be paying more attention to it. But, we are the ones on Mars for some reason.
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I can't say I totally support going to mars, but I will say this. Nobody will agree, but like I give a fuck.
Going to mars is something ONLY the government can accomplish. You and I can't get together and figure out how to go to mars.
You and I can feed the homeless.
End of story.
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wouldnt it be colder on mars? oh hell no
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$820 MILLION for a postcard from Mars. Imagine what we could do with that money on our own planet, better yet, our own fuckin country.
Engel said he likes to learn, well so do many children. Wouldn't it make more sense to use that money for education purposes here, rather than for them to send us photos of a red planet? These fuckin people we put in power will do anything to fatten the pockets of the friends in certain industries. There is nothing else to it. I'm sure they know that E.T. doesn't exist.
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and as for homeless...every country has homeless so it's not just the US that has this problem and is ignoring it...
And everybody should be paying more attention to it. But, we are the ones on Mars for some reason.
what i'm trying to say is that there are countries that aren't spending billions on weapons...that aren't spending billions on space travel....that aren't spending billions on whatever cause you think is a piece of shit cause....and there are still homeless people....
what should we do with homeless? build them houses? that just leads to more slums....can't get them all jobs....there's no right solution to homelessness
and with education....today's youth doesn't want to learn....if they did, then they'd be in school like they already are. you can't force someone to learn no matter how expensive the books are, or how far buses go to pick them up.... these two problems are left up to the individual to figure out
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smerlus ^ You forgot, though, personal responsibility is lost in America. Nothing's our fault. If we're fat, it's because of the fast food companies. If we're stupid, it's because of the school system. If we steal something, it's because of society. The only time anything is our fault, is when a kid in columbine shoots his peers at school. Then it's our fault because we weren't his friend.
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I can't say I totally support going to mars, but I will say this. Nobody will agree, but like I give a fuck.
Going to mars is something ONLY the government can accomplish. You and I can't get together and figure out how to go to mars.
You and I can feed the homeless.
End of story.
^^thats true. But where does that money that the government wastes on shit...come from?
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I actually think the ideas they had on the movie RED PLANET where pretty dope. Blasting up moss and shit so it could grow. I think one day earth is gunna be far to overpopulated and we are definetyl gunna have to find another planet to live, so looking into Mars in my eyes aint a bad thing.
Put it this way I would rather live on Mars than Uranus!
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From Taxes. Which should summarily be lowered. It's not the government's place to feed the homeless, they should help themselves or private charities should take care of that, we shouldn't be forced to support people. On the other hand, there's no way we can go to mars without the entire country helping out, so to me, going to mars makes much more sense than paying for the homeless. Call me cold, but I don't give a fuck, I have little sympathy for most of them, whino, drunk motherfuckers who want to just throw their lives away. There are millions of opportunities in this country for anyone, but they dont' want that, they want a handout and a check from the government.
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From Taxes. Which should summarily be lowered. It's not the government's place to feed the homeless, they should help themselves or private charities should take care of that, we shouldn't be forced to support people. On the other hand, there's no way we can go to mars without the entire country helping out, so to me, going to mars makes much more sense than paying for the homeless. Call me cold, but I don't give a fuck, I have little sympathy for most of them, whino, drunk motherfuckers who want to just throw their lives away. There are millions of opportunities in this country for anyone, but they dont' want that, they want a handout and a check from the government.
Preach!
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fuck that not everyone gets dealt a good card in life most of ppl here will have been fortunate enough to have been baught up in a good household with parents lending proper support. other ppl their parent mite not like them and be cunts to them or they grow up in care which has a terrible reputation, they may lack basic qualities like knowinghow to read and write. and when u become homeless without support from other ppl it virtually impossible to get back on your feet no ones to employ ppl who live in the street so how they gonna get a job to make a fresh start. there are two classes of homeless those who need help and those who don't want it. but even if they don't want it they may just not know that because they have become addicted to drugs whilst being homeless thus they need help to get clean.
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fuck that not everyone gets dealt a good card in life most of ppl here will have been fortunate enough to have been baught up in a good household with parents lending proper support. other ppl their parent mite not like them and be cunts to them or they grow up in care which has a terrible reputation, they may lack basic qualities like knowinghow to read and write. and when u become homeless without support from other ppl it virtually impossible to get back on your feet no ones to employ ppl who live in the street so how they gonna get a job to make a fresh start. there are two classes of homeless those who need help and those who don't want it. but even if they don't want it they may just not know that because they have become addicted to drugs whilst being homeless thus they need help to get clean.
when i was coming back to high school as a senior, i would have never thought my spanish teacher was living out of his van.....he was an alcoholic, a gambler, his wife kicked him out and moved away with thier three kids....all he had left was some clothes and a dirty old van that he was living in....sure he got dealt a shitty hand....but living in a van straightened him up....he got his shit together, kept working, saved up and now he's back in his own house...
you have to want something better for yourself....you don't have to settle being homeless...McDonalds, Arby's, target, wal mart and shit like that are constantly hiring around here and yet you still see a couple homeless people....shit get on welfare and work a minimum wage job to put a roof on your head
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u think ppl r gonna wanna be served by a smelly homeless person i highly doubt maccy dez etc would hire them
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From Taxes. Which should summarily be lowered. It's not the government's place to feed the homeless, they should help themselves or private charities should take care of that, we shouldn't be forced to support people. On the other hand, there's no way we can go to mars without the entire country helping out, so to me, going to mars makes much more sense than paying for the homeless. Call me cold, but I don't give a fuck, I have little sympathy for most of them, whino, drunk motherfuckers who want to just throw their lives away. There are millions of opportunities in this country for anyone, but they dont' want that, they want a handout and a check from the government.
Thats the definition of Republican right there lol. "Fuck the homeless...theyre all a bunch of whinos!" lol. Wtf.
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u think ppl r gonna wanna be served by a smelly homeless person i highly doubt maccy dez etc would hire them
You mean they don't already?
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fuck that not everyone gets dealt a good card in life most of ppl here will have been fortunate enough to have been baught up in a good household with parents lending proper support. other ppl their parent mite not like them and be cunts to them or they grow up in care which has a terrible reputation, they may lack basic qualities like knowinghow to read and write. and when u become homeless without support from other ppl it virtually impossible to get back on your feet no ones to employ ppl who live in the street so how they gonna get a job to make a fresh start. there are two classes of homeless those who need help and those who don't want it. but even if they don't want it they may just not know that because they have become addicted to drugs whilst being homeless thus they need help to get clean.
when i was coming back to high school as a senior, i would have never thought my spanish teacher was living out of his van.....he was an alcoholic, a gambler, his wife kicked him out and moved away with thier three kids....all he had left was some clothes and a dirty old van that he was living in....sure he got dealt a shitty hand....but living in a van straightened him up....he got his shit together, kept working, saved up and now he's back in his own house...
you have to want something better for yourself....you don't have to settle being homeless...McDonalds, Arby's, target, wal mart and shit like that are constantly hiring around here and yet you still see a couple homeless people....shit get on welfare and work a minimum wage job to put a roof on your head
lol thats a nice thought and all...but it doesnt exactly work like that. Its true, u DO have to want more then to be homeless. But how many employers really hire homeless people...barely any. Shit, a lot of employers wont hire you just because youre a minority...so imagine how hard it is for someone who is homeless. People have fucked up Republican views of them (ie. Theyre all a bunch of whinos), and dont want them working for them. Not to mention, a LOT of them are mentally ill also. I know in San Diego we supposedly have the highest % of mentally ill homeless people. Wheres the help for them? There isnt...thats why theyre homeless.
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u think ppl r gonna wanna be served by a smelly homeless person i highly doubt maccy dez etc would hire them
yeah i also thing bill gates will hire them as VP.....i named shitty jobs and you come up with macy's... you should see the arby's near my house....these fuckers looked like they pulled thier uniform out of a soaking wet sock....they're a nasty bunch of bastards that i wouldn't dare let touch my food, so yeah i can see some homeless people working there...even the managers look like they got arthritis from gripping that cart handle in the winter
anyways if i was homeless i'd rob a bank, cause you'd get a roof over your head either way 8)
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Ok, so you'd rather get a picture of Mars than feed some homeless people. That's understandable, some of them are a bunch of freeloaders, some aren't. But, what about education, healthcare, etc., things to help the general public. If WE pay taxes, then we should be getting things like this in return. I don't want a postcard from Mars. If I pay taxes, I want it to
a) benefit me somehow (lower education/medical costs)
b) benefit the needy (sick children for example, doesn't have to be bums)
Neither of those things is the government's responsibility, but taking pictures of Mars isn't either. So why not spend the money in a way that benefits the people paying for it?
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I'm sorry that you're too small minded to see the big picture...
Have you ever cooked with teflon pans? Thank NASA.
Ever had a CATscan or an MRI? Thanks NASA.
Lightweight alumunim used in today's bikes, planes, etc? Guess who...
The Circuit board? Apollo mission spinoff. Without this, we wouldn't be talking right now. Thank's again NASA
Here's NASA's own page on Spinoff's:
http://www.sti.nasa.gov/tto/
Here's an article:
http://www.nasa.gov/vision/earth/technologies/spinoffs.html
Fuck it! Do a search in their spinoff database:
http://www.sti.nasa.gov/tto/spinselect.html
A study I read on the ISS showed that every $1 invested in developing the technology has spun off into $40 for the economy... I can't find it at the moment, but I'll post it up once I do...
Does anyone honestly think that putting that bit of money elsewhere would solve whatever domestic problems you want fixed? Have we cured hunger, poverty, or undereducation yet? No? Well, we've been throwing billions at them so far. If you're looking for funds to cut and inefficiencies to uproot, look in defense and welfare. Diverting funds from NASA to domestic programs will not change anything except to kneecap our development as a multi-planet species.
Another ignorant assumption by simple mineded moron's is that if money is cut from one department, it automatically gets redistributed to others. That's not the way it works. And yes, I know we're running a deficit but a 1 billion increase over the next 5 years isn't going to contribute significantly to it. By the way, Every administration except for 2 (maybe 3) has run a deficit and the country is still here...
For the moron's out there who think this is a waste of money, put a gun in your mouth.
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It's a waste of money when you consider the fact that our nation could use the money for other MORE IMPORTANT THINGS. That's my point.
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I just picked apart your blind ass ignorant argument point by point.
You are wrong.
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So, I'm wrong in thinking that education and health for our citizens is more important than exploring a planet? How can that be "wrong"? It's a matter of opinion. You're such a fuckin idiot. You try to make yourself think that you're right, by saying that I'm wrong about something I CAN'T BE WRONG ABOUT. I didn't say space exploration serves no use to us, I just said at the moment this country has bigger, more important issues to worry about. It's a matter of opinion dumbass.
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When the aliens invade and kill all of us, you won't be so worried about the homeless and the uneducated children...
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When the aliens invade and kill all of us, you won't be so worried about the homeless and the uneducated children...
Yea, first Bush used terrorists to frighten the country and take away our freedoms and liberties. Next he will use aliens. LOL. Good point. That general recently said "if there is an attack, we will have to ignore the constitution and our country will lose what its known for... freedom". Only real patriots like Trauma would agree with something like this, right Trauma? Fuck the constitution... real patriotic.