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Title: Some black people are just plain out......
Post by: Political Gangsta on July 15, 2002, 09:46:33 AM
Racist.  Reverse racism is everywhere.  If a white kid rolls around listening to hip-hop, he will get cold stares or laughs from black people.  If he rolls around listening to Moby he would also get cold stares and laughs from black people.  If he rolled around listening to Axel Rose or Mettalicca he would get cold stares and laughs from black people.  Don't believe me?  Go take a drive through your city.



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dorky. no offence but i was up in the wherehouse the other day and i bought thug life. and a white dude rung me up. and he was like "whats up dude" (in the surfer tone) and i was like sup. then he was like "so, you down with the gangasta shit, keeping it real on the westcoast for youll your homies" and i was like wrf, look at this surfing ass white dude lol....i thought it was kinda funny....

Title: Re: Some black people are just plain out......
Post by: Political Gangsta on July 15, 2002, 09:49:37 AM
Moreover, if a white kid acts scared or afraid to go through a black part of town, then the white kid will get laughed at and called a racist.

If the same white kid does frequent that black part of town, the black people will say, "You do not want to have your shit here, you will get fucked up in these parts."

It's lose, lose, when dealing with the racist and prejudice mind.
Title: Re: Some black people are just plain out......
Post by: The Big Bad Ass on July 15, 2002, 09:50:06 AM
Just in case you didn't read the whole thread PG, Tinman is half white, half mexican.
Title: Re: Some black people are just plain out......
Post by: Doggystylin on July 15, 2002, 09:54:37 AM
why go down to the same level and bring this shit up?
Title: Re: Some black people are just plain out......
Post by: Political Gangsta on July 15, 2002, 10:06:19 AM
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why go down to the same level and bring this shit up?


Because I'm tired of these double-standards that exist when it comes to racism.

I believe in affirmative action.  I agree that black people need greater oppurtunities and advantages when it comes to political power and business in America.

Nevertheless, that does not give them the right to be racist and get away with it.  Chris Rock can get on stage and say, "Fuck crackers, kill whitee, Fuck crackers."

A white person could never get on stage and say, "Kill the nigga's, fuck the nigga's."

Let's be real.
Title: Re: Some black people are just plain out......
Post by: HBKid_Jr on July 15, 2002, 10:12:41 AM
this should be moved to hall of mirrors.  Affirmative action is a good thing to a certain extent.  They still have afirmative actions when it comes to college.  a lot of white kids get fucked over b/c of affirmative action,  a black kid wit lower grades would get accepted over a whte kid wit better grades.  Now thats fucked up. Like title 9 (tha thing for womans sports) it has a good purpose but also at tha same time it does a lot of wrong
Title: Re: Some black people are just plain out......
Post by: Doggystylin on July 15, 2002, 10:15:12 AM
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Because I'm tired of these double-standards that exist when it comes to racism.

I believe in affirmative action.  I agree that black people need greater oppurtunities and advantages when it comes to political power and business in America.

Nevertheless, that does not give them the right to be racist and get away with it.  Chris Rock can get on stage and say, "Fuck crackers, kill whitee, Fuck crackers."

A white person could never get on stage and say, "Kill the nigga's, fuck the nigga's."

Let's be real.


ill be real, if it wasnt for the past then it would be equal, but because of the white mans ignorance in the past that is why the black man can get away with something like that, and i think it is fair, its not like whites were slaves that were raped and beaten before and get reminded of that. and its not like chris rock is serious. and so who cares if a black man can get away with sayin fuck crackers. its not hurting white people, now if black people had the right to make whites their slaves cause of back in the day, that would be somethin to complain about, but because of your ancestors stupidity and ignorace your just gonna have to let this slide
Title: Re: Some black people are just plain out......
Post by: Political Gangsta on July 15, 2002, 10:21:37 AM
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ill be real, if it wasnt for the past then it would be equal, but because of the white mans ignorance in the past that is why the black man can get away with something like that, and i think it is fair, its not like whites were slaves that were raped and beaten before and get reminded of that. and its not like chris rock is serious. and so who cares if a black man can get away with sayin fuck crackers. its not hurting white people, now if black people had the right to make whites their slaves cause of back in the day, that would be somethin to complain about, but because of your ancestors stupidity and ignorace your just gonna have to let this slide


You know what makes slavery in America unique from slavery by dark skinned people all over the world?

America abolished it!!!!  That hasn't happened in other area's of darker hues.

That's right.  Black people, Arab, Iranian, Persians, have enslaved people on their land and don't let them tell you otherwise.  Many of the slaves white Americans bought we bought from black Africans.
Title: Re: Some black people are just plain out......
Post by: Don Seer on July 15, 2002, 10:25:34 AM
that its true.

the difference is.. often the 'slaves' were actually prisoners and put to use on projects and things for committing crimes.

i.e. punishment of 'one season' wokring in the fields or on building etc.

hell.. its almost like the caste system.

the difference... the americans took them and didnt take them back. plus the mistreatment.

btw... u know that one of the original reasons the UK wouldnt recognise America as being a county was because they had slavery and we didnt.
Title: Re: Some black people are just plain out......
Post by: Doggystylin on July 15, 2002, 10:33:38 AM
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You know what makes slavery in America unique from slavery by dark skinned people all over the world?

America abolished it!!!!  That hasn't happened in other area's of darker hues.

That's right.  Black people, Arab, Iranian, Persians, have enslaved people on their land and don't let them tell you otherwise.  Many of the slaves white Americans bought we bought from black Africans.


ha, please PG. dont try to take this to back in the mideast, we were talkin about america, but aight ill spit a lil somethin on that, those that you call slaves in those area, persians who are iranians, lol, arabs,....yes they had slaves, but they were of their own race, they didnt go out  and grab some chinese people cause they thought of them as a lower class and make them do their work for them, they took people of their own kind who already were poor and nothing else to do, and bassicly gave them something to do, and slaves of those areas werent mistreated, they probably didnt hate their life like slaves in america. they might have done rough work, but still they werent mistreated. and they got much more than slaves in america. the thing is, americans were all poor pieces of shit back then and couldnt do work themselves so they need to bring over the bigger and stronger black man, you evil fucks. still today america is torturing the world. please white man, dont try to even defend your kind, cause i have so much dirt on your race


Title: Re: Some black people are just plain out......
Post by: Political Gangsta on July 15, 2002, 10:46:50 AM
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ha, please PG. dont try to take this to back in the mideast, we were talkin about america, but aight ill spit a lil somethin on that, those that you call slaves in those area, persians who are iranians, lol, arabs,....yes they had slaves, but they were of their own race, they didnt go out  and grab some chinese people cause they thought of them as a lower class and make them do their work for them, they took people of their own kind who already were poor and nothing else to do, and bassicly gave them something to do, and slaves of those areas werent mistreated, they probably didnt hate their life like slaves in america. they might have done rough work, but still they werent mistreated. and they got much more than slaves in america. the thing is, americans were all poor pieces of shit back then and couldnt do work themselves so they need to bring over the bigger and stronger black man, you evil fucks. still today america is torturing the world. please white man, dont try to even defend your kind, cause i have so much dirt on your race




Gave them something to do.  LMAO!!!! So slavery is really just, giving someone something to do.  Yeah, go work the fuckin fields while I whip you in the back 20 times and stick a foot up your ass.  That will give them something to do.

Yo.  You cannot sit here and tell me that ethnic cleansing has not, and does not still go on in the Eastern World.  Fuck that.

I will be back tomarrow with specific examples, I have to go look them up.
Title: Re: Some black people are just plain out......
Post by: Doggystylin on July 15, 2002, 11:01:59 AM
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Gave them something to do.  LMAO!!!! So slavery is really just, giving someone something to do.  Yeah, go work the fuckin fields while I whip you in the back 20 times and stick a foot up your ass.  That will give them something to do.

Yo.  You cannot sit here and tell me that ethnic cleansing has not, and does not still go on in the Eastern World.  Fuck that.

I will be back tomarrow with specific examples, I have to go look them up.


no, american slavery was the type that abused their slaves so extremely, and it was the type of slavery that grabbed everyones attention worldwide, other slavery wasnt as harsh, while americans whipped and raped them, others, gave them a place to stay, food, and a job. they didnt mind. in america is was like hell for them......and uhh fuck that?, no fuck you for not knowin big PG, you still have a lot to learn, so yeah you better go read up and study before you come back and make yourself look like an ass.

and you know how you always make these other posts and threads talkin shit that no one understands? well here i have a lil somethin for you.

"Just because no one can understand how you speak, don't necessarily means that what you are saying is deep." - Talib Kweli
Title: Re: Some black people are just plain out......
Post by: Political Gangsta on July 15, 2002, 11:05:56 AM
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no, american slavery was the type that abused their slaves so extremely, and it was the type of slavery that grabbed everyones attention worldwide, other slavery wasnt as harsh, while americans whipped and raped them, others, gave them a place to stay, food, and a job. they didnt mind. in america is was like hell for them......and uhh fuck that?, no fuck you for not knowin big PG, you still have a lot to learn, so yeah you better go read up and study before you come back and make yourself look like an ass.

and you know how you always make these other posts and threads talkin shit that no one understands? well here i have a lil somethin for you.

"Just because no one can understand how you speak, don't necessary means that what you are saying is deep." - Talib Kweli


Your right, slavery in America was the most brutal form of slavery in world history.  

As for all that other shit you said, just because you can't pick up a fuckin dictionary because your too fucking lazy thinking about some white bitch that you ain't gonna get, that ain't my fuckin problem.  I will not be penalized for using big words and attempting to gain knowledge.

You want me to be smart so I can understand your people's side of the story, but you don't want me to act smart and use big words.  You can't have it both ways.

You win this argument because I was being an irrational asshole above when I laughed at your "giving them something to do comment", and I apologize for my transgression against you.
Title: Re: Some black people are just plain out......
Post by: Doggystylin on July 15, 2002, 11:14:29 AM
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Your right, slavery in America was the most brutal form of slavery in world history.  

As for all that other shit you said, just because you can't pick up a fuckin dictionary because your too fucking lazy thinking about some white bitch that you ain't gonna get, that ain't my fuckin problem.  I will not be penalized for using big words and attempting to gain knowledge.

You want me to be smart so I can understand your people's side of the story, but you don't want me to act smart and use big words.  You can't have it both ways.

You win this argument because I was being an irrational asshole above when I laughed at your "giving them something to do comment", and I apologize for my transgression against you.


yes you were laughing in confusion and had no idea what to say because i was right. you can gain knowledge, but you come on here, makin a post with huge fuckin words you know no one knows, and then you expect them to understand? then when they dont know i bet you feel like your better huh?, no instead, explain why the fuck your doing it, and tell them you yourself have been studying a dictionary to look smart. i mean, when you know no one knows. then wtf, lol, atleast tell the, yo, i want to talk like ive been studying the dictionary and if yall wanna understand yall should do the same, lol, now whatever PG, we all know some of those sentences you said didnt make sense even if we did look up the words. now just cause you have a bigger vocabulary doesnt mean your smarter.
Title: Re: Some black people are just plain out......
Post by: Political Gangsta on July 15, 2002, 11:17:42 AM
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yes you were laughing in confusion and had no idea what to say because i was right. you can gain knowledge, but you come on here, makin a post with huge fuckin words you know no one knows, and then you expect them to understand? then when they dont know i bet you feel like your better huh?, no instead, explain why the fuck your doing it, and tell them you yourself have been studying a dictionary to look smart. i mean, when you know no one knows. then wtf, lol, atleast tell the, yo, i want to talk like ive been studying the dictionary and if yall wanna understand yall should do the same, lol, now whatever PG, we all know some of those sentences you said didnt make sense even if we did look up the words. now just cause you have a bigger vocabulary doesnt mean your smarter.


Find me one sentence that doesn't make sense.  And when you can't, I'm going to laugh at your lazy ass.
Title: Re: Some black people are just plain out......
Post by: Doggystylin on July 15, 2002, 11:34:51 AM
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Find me one sentence that doesn't make sense.  And when you can't, I'm going to laugh at your lazy ass.


ill give you that, i am a lazy fuck, and since i am, that means im too lazy to go around lookin for a sentence that doesnt make sense, now u can laugh about that, but what is that to laught at? ill laugh at you later
Title: Re: Some black people are just plain out......
Post by: Political Gangsta on July 15, 2002, 11:39:01 AM
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ill give you that, i am a lazy fuck, and since i am, that means im too lazy to go around lookin for a sentence that doesnt make sense, now u can laugh about that, but what is that to laught at? ill laugh at you later


Ha! Ha! Ha!... Your like a polotician, empty promises to get into office.  Statements you had no real intention of backing up.  Your all talk.
Title: Re: Some black people are just plain out......
Post by: Doggystylin on July 15, 2002, 11:45:56 AM
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Ha! Ha! Ha!... Your like a polotician, empty promises to get into office.  Statements you had no real intention of backing up.  Your all talk.



laugh it up, u call yourself a political gangsta, now that shits funny if you wanna laugh, and soon enough we'll see if im all talk. you couldnt back up what you started on this thread, everytime i make you look like an ass big PG. bow down
Title: Re: Some black people are just plain out......
Post by: Political Gangsta on July 15, 2002, 11:48:35 AM
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laugh it up, u call yourself a political gangsta, now that shits funny if you wanna laugh, and soon enough we'll see if im all talk. you couldnt back up what you started on this thread, everytime i make you look like an ass big PG. bow down


Huh?  LOL.  Now your not even making sense.  Like kids on recess who lose a basketball and say, "We weren't even trying."

I quit school cause of recess you fuckin BG.  Get with the PG.
Title: Re: Some black people are just plain out......
Post by: Doggystylin on July 15, 2002, 11:54:47 AM
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Huh?  LOL.  Now your not even making sense.  Like kids on recess who lose a basketball and say, "We weren't even trying."

I quit school cause of recess you fuckin BG.  Get with the PG.



not making sense? was it cause i didnt use big enough words? ima BG? who was the one who got schooled? PG = BG, naw u aint even a G, u just a baby boy. yo if you lookin for ya mama, she should be at home, she'll give you a hug and make you feel loved cause around here you'll just get beaten and picked on son.
Title: Re: Some black people are just plain out......
Post by: bLaDe on July 15, 2002, 12:03:12 PM
Ok - thats it, this thread is causing beef.  Im fine with doggy n PG debating over the slavery stuff, but now ya'll r attacking personaly, Stay on topic, this is a warning.

 -{bLaDe}
Title: Re: Some black people are just plain out......
Post by: Doggystylin on July 15, 2002, 12:05:31 PM
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:. link=board=thehall;num=1026764187;start=20#20 date=07/15/02 at 17:03:12]Ok - thats it, this thread is causing beef.  Im fine with doggy n PG debating over the slavery stuff, but now ya'll r attacking personaly, Stay on topic, this is a warning.

 -{bLaDe}


no butch, its all good, im a mod and PG is.....related to mod, and were both ok with it, and oh yeah its bound to get political again so let it slide officer blade
Title: Re: Some black people are just plain out......
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on July 15, 2002, 12:33:49 PM
:o :o

Dat Kalib Quote is SICCNESS.....WORD on wat its context.

I think that's wat won this argument lolz.....Tha Knocc Out Blow.....haha

But I can understand where both PG an Flip Dogg are comin from......
Title: Re: Some black people are just plain out......
Post by: The Big Bad Ass on July 15, 2002, 03:41:11 PM
I'm not takin sides, but I never saw a sentence that PG wrote that didn't make sense. I fell that he used some words that weren't really necessary, but they all made sense.

PG, why did you start this thread as a response to Tinman, a white/mexican guy exploiting whites? I don't understand why you singled blacks out.

Flipper, why did you say we are evil fucks? I, nor any of my family members enslaved anyone, yet when you were talking about america, and it's past, you called us evil fucks.
Title: Re: Some black people are just plain out......
Post by: Cliftone_Santiago_909 on July 15, 2002, 09:03:21 PM
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You know what makes slavery in America unique from slavery by dark skinned people all over the world?

America abolished it!!!!  That hasn't happened in other area's of darker hues.

That's right.  Black people, Arab, Iranian, Persians, have enslaved people on their land and don't let them tell you otherwise.  Many of the slaves white Americans bought we bought from black Africans.




Who cares.. all that doesn't mean shit. Who cares if it was some African slangin slaves.. who cares if this shit goes on around other parts of tha world...


Flipper had tha point, Shit probably would be equal with blacks and whites if whites didn't fuck it up in tha first place by mistreating minorities tha way they did. That's why shit can't be equal... that's why it's okay for a black guy to call a white guy a cracker and not okay for a white guy to call a black guy a nigger.


I can understand why it bothers you... You're a white boy, and you dont get tha respect you think you deserve... It was your anscestors fuckin with tha slaves back in tha day, not you... all that's understandable but it doesn't change tha facts. Just live with it... It's better than living in tha sun, getting beat pickin cotton all day...
Title: Re: Some black people are just plain out......
Post by: Doggystylin on July 15, 2002, 10:06:53 PM
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I'm not takin sides, but I never saw a sentence that PG wrote that didn't make sense. I fell that he used some words that weren't really necessary, but they all made sense.

PG, why did you start this thread as a response to Tinman, a white/mexican guy exploiting whites? I don't understand why you singled blacks out.

Flipper, why did you say we are evil fucks? I, nor any of my family members enslaved anyone, yet when you were talking about america, and it's past, you called us evil fucks.


not people now, but back in the day, whoever would do that to a human is considered evil.
Title: Re: Some black people are just plain out......
Post by: The Big Bad Ass on July 15, 2002, 10:10:49 PM
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not people now, but back in the day, whoever would do that to a human is considered evil.


I agree.
Title: Re: Some black people are just plain out......
Post by: HBKid_Jr on July 15, 2002, 10:23:45 PM
so by allowing black to call me cracker makes up for slavery.  Thats a reason why a lot of whites look down on blacks.  Cuz they still dwell on slavery.  a lot of times they still us it as a scapegoat.  now tell me how tha fuck r u supposed to move on as a race when u dwell on suptin 135 years ago an still use that as an excuse for why your race is opressed,  You dont see me  hatin on brittain for opressin my ancestors.  They still use that slavery shit tho,  did i own slaves,  no.  did my dad own slaves,  no.  did my grandfather own slaves,  no,  Did my great grandfather own slaves,  No.  did my great great grandfather own slaves,  maybe.  But your goin back 5 generations tho.  To blacks, were you a slave,  no,  were your parents slaves,  no.  you grandparents no.   You have to go back 4-5 generations to your last ancestor that was a slave so jus drop that whole fuck white people cuz of slavery.  They bitch about how blacks cant go into a white neighborhood,  its jus as bad if not worse if a white person tried to go into a black neighborhood.  Slavery is definitly suptin tha youth should be made aware about,  tha horror stories of it an tha mistakes made in tha past.  But to still use that as an excuse an a scapegoat is bull shit in my eyes
Title: Re: Some black people are just plain out......
Post by: Pillow on July 15, 2002, 11:47:17 PM
yo PG i am the last mother fucka on the plantet that would ever be racist man. i am half white my self, so think about that one. i am just stating facts that i see from a personal standpoint, and most ppl as ur self blow them outta porportion. i think alot of white ppl are dorky, but i got alot of white friends. and alot of them do dumb shit to. like one time we were in food 4 less, and i was trying to get this one girls number, and just as she was about to give it to me my homie comes up and moons her. she still gave me her #, but be honest with ur self, how many black or mexican ppl would do that?
Title: Re: Some black people are just plain out......
Post by: Sikotic™ on July 15, 2002, 11:56:56 PM
Racism goes both ways. I would thimk the issue would have gotten old by now.
Title: Re: Some black people are just plain out......
Post by: Instant_Killa on July 16, 2002, 12:50:31 AM
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so by allowing black to call me cracker makes up for slavery.  Thats a reason why a lot of whites look down on blacks.  Cuz they still dwell on slavery.  a lot of times they still us it as a scapegoat.  now tell me how tha fuck r u supposed to move on as a race when u dwell on suptin 135 years ago an still use that as an excuse for why your race is opressed,  You dont see me  hatin on brittain for opressin my ancestors.  They still use that slavery shit tho,  did i own slaves,  no.  did my dad own slaves,  no.  did my grandfather own slaves,  no,  Did my great grandfather own slaves,  No.  did my great great grandfather own slaves,  maybe.  But your goin back 5 generations tho.  To blacks, were you a slave,  no,  were your parents slaves,  no.  you grandparents no.   You have to go back 4-5 generations to your last ancestor that was a slave so jus drop that whole fuck white people cuz of slavery.  They bitch about how blacks cant go into a white neighborhood,  its jus as bad if not worse if a white person tried to go into a black neighborhood.  Slavery is definitly suptin tha youth should be made aware about,  tha horror stories of it an tha mistakes made in tha past.  But to still use that as an excuse an a scapegoat is bull shit in my eyes


word, i agree with u man. Black ppl need to change, no more hate in the eyes when they see whites, the old excuse of slavery is no longer valid in this time period.
peace
Title: Re: Some black people are just plain out......
Post by: Trauma-san on July 16, 2002, 06:21:59 PM
All races have an amount of racism within them.  There are racist blacks just like racist whites.  I'd even go so far to say that it's about equal... white people don't like black people, and black people don't like white people.  I'd say 60% of blacks and whites are racist, straight up.  

Racism is Racism.  White people inslaved blacks.  That was wrong.  Black people hating us because of it is wrong, also.  The black person has no right to say "kill whitey", just like I have no right to say "Kill niggers".  If your mom is murdered by some guy, you have no right to go murder the guy that did it.  Two wrongs don't make a right.  This is kindergarten stuff.  
Title: Re: Some black people are just plain out......
Post by: That_Cracka_J on July 16, 2002, 07:29:39 PM
I agree with you Tom187um...Slavery was GENERATIONS ago.  My ancestors may or may not have had slaves, I don't know.  But I do know that my father or his father or his father owned them.  

It also goes the other way....That was 5 generations ago...how long does it take to obtain success without aid of the government (i.e. affirmative action)?  I'm not trying to attack black people who believe in affirmative action, but if I were black, it would make me feel inferior if I got a job not because of my effort or knowledge, but because of the color of my skin.

How many more years of "greater oppurtunities and advantages (affirmative action)" does America have to give before slavery is not used against the white man anymore?  
Title: Re: Some black people are just plain out......
Post by: Trauma-san on July 16, 2002, 07:52:07 PM
Yeah, I agree with that, too.  We need to do this:  Imagine a perfect world, and instead of doing WRONG things to ACCOUNT for what's wrong with the world, we need to work at solutions for the problem, not bondo to fix up the cracks.  Affirmative action attempts to balance racism, that's b.s.  We need to find a way to make sure that companies don't act racist, not punish each company, and the white race because some are racist.  Peace~
Title: Re: Some black people are just plain out......
Post by: infinite59 on July 17, 2002, 12:27:14 AM
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so by allowing black to call me cracker makes up for slavery.  Thats a reason why a lot of whites look down on blacks.  Cuz they still dwell on slavery.  a lot of times they still us it as a scapegoat.  now tell me how tha fuck r u supposed to move on as a race when u dwell on suptin 135 years ago an still use that as an excuse for why your race is opressed,  You dont see me  hatin on brittain for opressin my ancestors.  They still use that slavery shit tho,  did i own slaves,  no.  did my dad own slaves,  no.  did my grandfather own slaves,  no,  Did my great grandfather own slaves,  No.  did my great great grandfather own slaves,  maybe.  But your goin back 5 generations tho.  To blacks, were you a slave,  no,  were your parents slaves,  no.  you grandparents no.   You have to go back 4-5 generations to your last ancestor that was a slave so jus drop that whole fuck white people cuz of slavery.  They bitch about how blacks cant go into a white neighborhood,  its jus as bad if not worse if a white person tried to go into a black neighborhood.  Slavery is definitly suptin tha youth should be made aware about,  tha horror stories of it an tha mistakes made in tha past.  But to still use that as an excuse an a scapegoat is bull shit in my eyes


Tom's on point.  I was going to post on this thread but Tom already took spoke for me.
Title: Re: Some black people are just plain out......
Post by: M Dogg™ on July 17, 2002, 04:49:43 AM
When you guys walk in a minorities shoes, then you can see why people are the way they are. They are not really racist, just ignorite. If they where actually racist, then we'd have white church bombing, and white lynching. Remember, you guys talk about blacks being mad at slavery still, well, just as a minority, I could kind of see were blacks come from as I've had white teachers, and white school counslers label me, and single me out. Now when this happens, you tend to see a pattern, and no matter what, you think of a certain people a certain way. And people don't know why they're mad, they just know that they are being singled out, and for years it's been the same people holding them down. They ain't got white friends, 'cause whites are the bad guys. I has been proven in their minds. It takes a lot to overcome, but think of it on the other persons foot before we come to conclussions.
Title: Re: Some black people are just plain out......
Post by: infinite59 on July 17, 2002, 05:08:03 AM
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When you guys walk in a minorities shoes, then you can see why people are the way they are. They are not really racist, just ignorite. If they where actually racist, then we'd have white church bombing, and white lynching. Remember, you guys talk about blacks being mad at slavery still, well, just as a minority, I could kind of see were blacks come from as I've had white teachers, and white school counslers label me, and single me out. Now when this happens, you tend to see a pattern, and no matter what, you think of a certain people a certain way. And people don't know why they're mad, they just know that they are being singled out, and for years it's been the same people holding them down. They ain't got white friends, 'cause whites are the bad guys. I has been proven in their minds. It takes a lot to overcome, but think of it on the other persons foot before we come to conclussions.


I'm not denying anything your saying, but I will say this.

Sometimes you might think a teacher is labeling you, or that someone doesn't like you because of your race, when really, they wouldn't of liked you anyway.  I have teachers label me, and people treat me with disrespect, just like everybody else.  But minorities usually take it as, "They didn't like me because of my race."
Title: Re: Some black people are just plain out......
Post by: DirtyPills on July 17, 2002, 06:19:51 AM
Hey, I am Black, I mean, My Cuzines Always Do that, When a White Person is In the Car listning To Hip~Hop They look at them, Dont laugh or anything, But kind Of a Peeky little look, I dont call that racist, I mean, I can be racist if someone else is racist with me, if someone calls me a Nigga, Or Anything, I come back with somthing to Insult them..
Title: Re: Some black people are just plain out......
Post by: M Dogg™ on July 17, 2002, 07:46:19 PM
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I'm not denying anything your saying, but I will say this.

Sometimes you might think a teacher is labeling you, or that someone doesn't like you because of your race, when really, they wouldn't of liked you anyway.  I have teachers label me, and people treat me with disrespect, just like everybody else.  But minorities usually take it as, "They didn't like me because of my race."


Infinite, you know me dogg. I was, and still am a model student. I had a 3.5 gpa at the time, and all that shit made me not want to even go to school. They allowed kids, and gang members to pick on me, and I did what any self respecting person would do, I fought back. If I'm a life screw up for fighting back, then so be it, but I am getting my college degree this year, and hope to be a teacher within 2 years, so hey, nice label I was given huh? Infinite, I still love ya', just remember, and I know you do, that the other shoe fits a lot different than yours, no matter how much we try to fit it.
Title: Re: Some black people are just plain out......
Post by: Gay-o Felony on July 19, 2002, 06:16:13 AM
Hey ya'll no matter how much you argue about all this double standards, and racism, it wont make it stop.... postin this stuff on here aint gonna make people stop, so arguein about it is poinltess.... IMO



Title: Re: Some black people are just plain out......
Post by: ToNe1904 on July 20, 2002, 07:29:50 PM
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so by allowing black to call me cracker makes up for slavery.  Thats a reason why a lot of whites look down on blacks.  Cuz they still dwell on slavery.  a lot of times they still us it as a scapegoat.  now tell me how tha fuck r u supposed to move on as a race when u dwell on suptin 135 years ago an still use that as an excuse for why your race is opressed,  You dont see me  hatin on brittain for opressin my ancestors.  They still use that slavery shit tho,  did i own slaves,  no.  did my dad own slaves,  no.  did my grandfather own slaves,  no,  Did my great grandfather own slaves,  No.  did my great great grandfather own slaves,  maybe.  But your goin back 5 generations tho.  To blacks, were you a slave,  no,  were your parents slaves,  no.  you grandparents no.   You have to go back 4-5 generations to your last ancestor that was a slave so jus drop that whole fuck white people cuz of slavery.  They bitch about how blacks cant go into a white neighborhood,  its jus as bad if not worse if a white person tried to go into a black neighborhood.  Slavery is definitly suptin tha youth should be made aware about,  tha horror stories of it an tha mistakes made in tha past.  But to still use that as an excuse an a scapegoat is bull shit in my eyes



i dont think many blacks blame you, youre parents, or even slavery as the reason why things are still fucked up. Its the decades of oppression AFTER slavery, that has affected our society to this day. Slavery was a terrible thing, and had a HUGE impact on a race. Theres differences between this, and other things that have happened to other races. The holocaust was a horrible event. However, how long did the holocaust truly last? Not generation after generation after generation...causing a complete change in a races culture. These people were not "black" before slavery, they were African. They were not Christian, Jesus Christ was not their "savior". They did not speak English, they had their own language, their own customs, their own country. By the time slavery had ended, even IF these people were shipped back to Africa...they would fit in there...just as much as they did here. So they were basically left to live in the same society which hated them, had them as slaves...then, thru a completely racist and opressive system, told...to make something of THEMselves, yet at the same time attacked time and again with policies and hurdles that probably 99.9% of this board couldnt deal with. Now theres good and bad in every race, so no ones better then anyone else (id imagine most of u agree with that). With that being said, dont u think there HAS to be a reason why to this day...white males still basically run the country? If u dont think the past, still has an affect...then you are just simply saying white males are better then the rest of the population. Other minorities have felt the same oppression here, and u see that they struggle to compete just the same. Shit, the Native Americans struggle just to not be extinct in this country. Like M-Dogg said...until u walk in someone elses shoes, u cant really judge. The hood in todays society basically plays the roll of the "slavemaster" of slavery days. When slaves were finally "freed", many of them went back to theyre slavemasters because they had no skills for jobs or idea how to be their own person in society. Tupac said it best when he said, "I dont fit in, Im too rich to still live in the hood...but i dont fit in in the rich neighborhood because im Black". White folks dont understand how much simpler things are for them (not that its easy for white people, but their experience is different). All they need, is to succeed. Thats it. Theres no tricks to it. However alot of minorities have to struggle with a normal human nature...and thats, to be around your own people. All people do it. But, its hard to move up...and be successful...when yur people arent successful with u. U cant be a success, unless u see success. And for anybody whos eva lived in tha hood, or spent anytime in tha hood...u understand that it doesnt bring a lot of hope to a situation.

All races have racist people in their group. I think it was Trauma that said he believes 60% of blacks n white are racist (sorry if i misquoted). Well then, in a predominately white male runned government...60% of those politicians are racist towards sum1, in sumway. And these men make our laws. Thats not to say its only whites...and that if the rolls were reversed...minorities wouldnt be just as racist. However, u jus gotta understand why things are the way they are. Affirmative Action had a lot of good behind it. Basically, Affirmative Action showed an understanding that people ARE racist...and the only way to combat human nature, is with law and policy. U cant make sum1 NOT be prejudice, but u CAN make sure they dont make prejudice actions.

anywayz...i kinda went off on a lil rant thea, n was lookin at tv at tha same time...so some shit mighta sounded crazee to summa yall in thea lol oh well. Juss an opinion. peace
Title: Re: Some black people are just plain out......
Post by: ToNe1904 on July 20, 2002, 07:31:09 PM
^^hopefully nobody thinks that last post, was jus posted for "numbers" LOL  ;D
Title: Re: Some black people are just plain out......
Post by: Instant_Killa on July 20, 2002, 07:33:15 PM
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^^hopefully nobody thinks that last post, was jus posted for "numbers" LOL  ;D



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