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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: infinite59 on April 10, 2002, 10:23:13 PM
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2,200 dead Palestinians.
360 dead Isrealites.
Like Mos Def said. "It's Mathematics." Both sides are killing innocent civilians. Let's keep it real, and if you've been watching the news lately you'll notice the Palestinian voice is slowly starting to come to light, even in the American media, and they are protesting at Berkely, California for an end Isreali occupation. Now the college campuses are beggining to fight for Palestine. Isreal is in direct violation of the Oswell treaty, the UN has condemned Isreal's occupation.
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Don't forget, so has the U.S.
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Don't forget, so has the U.S.
Don't forget, Isreal is killing innocent Palestinians with weapons funded by the U.S.
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You want them to take them back or something? LOL.
The u.s. has said that Israel should withdrawl immediately, and has called for an end to this almost since it's inception. If you're hoping we go bomb them or something, I dont' see that happening.
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You want them to take them back or something? LOL.
The u.s. has said that Israel should withdrawl immediately, and has called for an end to this almost since it's inception. If you're hoping we go bomb them or something, I dont' see that happening.
Fair enough.
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Israel should be n is doing the right thing to protect its ppl, by defending itself; thats what any other country would do too in such a situation...
Peace
Exactly, Palestine has to defend itself just like any other country. Don't put one race above another in importance. Isreal is killing more innocent civilians than the Palestinians are, and they've been patient for 50 years waiting for Isreal to get the fuck out of their territory's and stop pushing them around.
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yo , heres my opinion....
i think israel is doing what it should do, its right. Palestinians shouldnt be that aggressive and all that with them, peace talks were in process b4, with time, a reasonable aggreement could have been met with...sooner or later
But Palestine was too aggressive, i mean cmon, u dont go n blow up ppl n shit to get what u want, its stupid....
u don go n throw stones against bullets like an imbecile....ur only gonna get killed
Israel should be n is doing the right thing to protect its ppl, by defending itself; thats what any other country would do too in such a situation...
I know that palestinians want their land back, well they dont have patience...Israel wanted to have peace talks, the situation just needed more time, u cant fucken get nuthin by making haste.....
Peace
ahem...
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yo , heres my opinion....
i think israel is doing what it should do, its right. Palestinians shouldnt be that aggressive and all that with them, peace talks were in process b4, with time, a reasonable aggreement could have been met with...sooner or later
But Palestine was too aggressive, i mean cmon, u dont go n blow up ppl n shit to get what u want, its stupid....
u don go n throw stones against bullets like an imbecile....ur only gonna get killed
Israel should be n is doing the right thing to protect its ppl, by defending itself; thats what any other country would do too in such a situation...
I know that palestinians want their land back, well they dont have patience...Israel wanted to have peace talks, the situation just needed more time, u cant fucken get nuthin by making haste.....
Peace
what woul you have done if canada had ocupated USA
and killed your mom and dad.
and many inocent ppl
FUCK THAT SHIT , FUCK WAR
Palestins are doing bad but Israel is doing it even more bad
now have Bush sayd 2 times that Ariel sharon are gonna pull back , mean usa gotta use power to take him out
like with millosovich
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Would you like Canada taking over New York?
Simple as
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yo , heres my opinion....
i think israel is doing what it should do, its right. Palestinians shouldnt be that aggressive and all that with them, peace talks were in process b4, with time, a reasonable aggreement could have been met with...sooner or later
But Palestine was too aggressive, i mean cmon, u dont go n blow up ppl n shit to get what u want, its stupid....
u don go n throw stones against bullets like an imbecile....ur only gonna get killed
Israel should be n is doing the right thing to protect its ppl, by defending itself; thats what any other country would do too in such a situation...
I know that palestinians want their land back, well they dont have patience...Israel wanted to have peace talks, the situation just needed more time, u cant fucken get nuthin by making haste.....
Peace
THANK YOU....exactlly my point...look what tha satez did after sep 11th....here in ISRAEL itz sep 11th every fuckin day.
as for tha numberz of mo dead palestinianz than israeliz...it"z possible since there iz much mo palestinianz in tha authority than jewz in IL...so think in proportionz.
btw...tha terroristic orgz iz sucseeding judgin from all tha pro terroristic opinionz here (i know yall gon say ya dont justefy terrorism...but thatz exactlly whatcha doing)...tha terroristz r responsable for everythang dat happenz in tha west bank right now....if inocent peepz do get killed(and i israel haz no intention in killing inocent people...just protect ourselves)...itz only cauze tha terroristz phisiclly cover their assez wit sevilienz...(do you know how crowded iz that population?)....they"re just a bunch of cowardz....
BTW...since tha authority iz terrorism supporting...any other country would and should atack to protect itself ...look at tha statez in afgan...and they din"t even bother to send soljaz be4 bompin then...so there would be no shit endangering tha soljhaz...
IL could send F16 and shit...but we know how crowded it iz there..and we don"t wanna hurt inocent peepz...
p.s sharon iz nothin to be blamed for...he does everythang to protect hiz country....tha comparison to milosovich iz completlly unapropriate...unless we"re talking about arafat.
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yo , heres my opinion....
i think israel is doing what it should do, its right. Palestinians shouldnt be that aggressive and all that with them, peace talks were in process b4, with time, a reasonable aggreement could have been met with...sooner or later
But Palestine was too aggressive, i mean cmon, u dont go n blow up ppl n shit to get what u want, its stupid....
u don go n throw stones against bullets like an imbecile....ur only gonna get killed
Israel should be n is doing the right thing to protect its ppl, by defending itself; thats what any other country would do too in such a situation...
I know that palestinians want their land back, well they dont have patience...Israel wanted to have peace talks, the situation just needed more time, u cant fucken get nuthin by making haste.....
Peace
wtf you sound more of an biased israeli suporrter then those guys that sit next to sharon, Palestinians are the aggressive ones? what should they do, sit back and let the soilders kill them? kill their familys everyday and fuck up their land?,and blowing themselves up is ALL they can do? what you think they got a military? and yeah Israel should be goin out into palestinian towns and killing them so they can wipe them out and protect themselves from those evil palestinian children and people who arent even doin anything but tryin to live their lives ::), man from what you wrote im doubting your knowledge on this, or your just really biased, and this is strange comin from a indian,comin from someone who lived in a islamic country in the middle east, but whatever, its your opinion
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Israel should be n is doing the right thing to protect its ppl, by defending itself; thats what any other country would do too in such a situation...
Peace
Exactly, Palestine has to defend itself just like any other country. Don't put one race above another in importance. Isreal is killing more innocent civilians than the Palestinians are, and they've been patient for 50 years waiting for Isreal to get the fuck out of their territory's and stop pushing them around.
Exactly, Palestine has to defend itself just like any other country. Don't put one race above another in importance. Isreal is killing more innocent civilians than the Palestinians are, and they've been patient for 50 years waiting for Isreal to get the fuck out of their territory's and stop pushing them around.
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2,200 dead Palestinians.
360 dead Isrealites.
These numbers speak for themselves, im wondering how anyone can justify this in ANY reasonable way...
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What time period is this in?
Also, if it was the other way round, some people'd be like "whooooooo Palestine". Double standard-They wouldn't attack Palestine, they'd praise them. So, though I don't think anyone here is like that, that's what pisses me off.
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What time period is this in?
Also, if it was the other way round, you'd be like "whooooooo Palestine". Double standard-You wouldn't attack Palestine, you'd praise them.
man what is that? why are you disrespectin like that man? anyways no that shit your sayin is nothin but bullshit, now get off our nutz
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I wasn't addressing that to you man, so chill, for fuck's sake.
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I wasn't addressing that to you man, so chill, for fuck's sake.
If that was aimed at me, you know nothing about me, i have a Jewish cousin and 2 jewish boys, i live in North London next to Muswell Hill, i wave nothing against Israel just their policies in Palestine, if it was the other way round i would feel the same way towards Palestine but its not, so stop fronting...
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hmm . ...well when the US went to wipe out the terroritsts out of Afghanistan .. the civilian casualties were humongous... far more greater than the figure of the WORLD TRADE CENTER casualties.... well US was also doing that for "self defense"....ariel sharon has laid it down .. if the attacks stop he is ready to talk ..but he is in a helpless situation..since the suicide bombings dont seem to stop .. i am not taking sides or shit.. but it makes sense every democratic country has a rite to protect itself from agressors or terrorists....well the palestinians cant talk abt 50 years back..this is the present world.. the only way to resolve this fucked up situation is through dialogue which at the moment is not possible due to the suicide bombings taking place.. once that stops , then israel would stop too and then finally we might be able to see a breakthrough..
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hmm . ...well when the US went to wipe out the terroritsts out of Afghanistan .. the civilian casualties were humongous... far more greater than the figure of the WORLD TRADE CENTER casualties.... well US was also doing that for "self defense"....ariel sharon has laid it down .. if the attacks stop he is ready to talk ..but he is in a helpless situation..since the suicide bombings dont seem to stop .. i am not taking sides or shit.. but it makes sense every democratic country has a rite to protect itself from agressors or terrorists....well the palestinians cant talk abt 50 years back..this is the present world.. the only way to resolve this fucked up situation is through dialogue which at the moment is not possible due to the suicide bombings taking place.. once that stops , then israel would stop too and then finally we might be able to see a breakthrough..
whatever man, what the US did was fuckin wrong too, and i know why your talkin all this, its simple , your a hindu, hindus hate muslims, so what would make you more happy than this?, LOL ....
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whatever man, what the US did was fuckin wrong too, and i know why your talkin all this, its simple , your a hindu, hindus hate muslims, so what would make you more happy than this?, LOL ....
hmm .. now dat was one dumb ass comment ... well i hope your LOL ...meant dat ..
newayz this is still in response to dat..this was very very ignorant .. if hindus hate muslims.. then all the muslims in india should ave long back fled from the country , but we seem to be harmonously co-existing.Sometimes, there are differences....but we get over it .
I am lookin at this shit from a neutral point of view ... of course you being an arab will of course palestine .. but i dont need to support both of em .. i jus posted my comments.. u didnt need to bring hinduism into all this ..
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Joachim, it wasn't, it was at Doggy, we've sorted it out.
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Israel should be n is doing the right thing to protect its ppl, by defending itself; thats what any other country would do too in such a situation...
Peace
Exactly, Palestine has to defend itself just like any other country. Don't put one race above another in importance. Isreal is killing more innocent civilians than the Palestinians are, and they've been patient for 50 years waiting for Isreal to get the fuck out of their territory's and stop pushing them around.
Eventhough alot of people seem to be hatin on this comment I see where he is coming from and I even agree to an extent.
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There are better ways of protecting your country than what is going on right now. It cracks me up how people are begging for peace but the carnage and violence keeps on escalating, its like the more the people want something, the farther away it seems to get.
Israel has a right to go after all the people bombing and terrorizing their people, but going into the Palestinians homes and killing them for revenge is not protecting the people, but is an act of terrorism as well.
So if it was like a year ago, I would of agreed with Apocalypses statement 100% but with the recent events things over their have changed.
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Apocolypse said: "I know Palestine wanted their land back but they needed 2 have patience"
WTF WTF......Are u kidding me? It's their fuckin land.....
Oh god, i dun need 2 get into this.........
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this whole thing amounts to pride....
if both sides could swallow some pride this thing could EASILY be diplomatically solved... IMO BOTH sides can be considered in the wrong
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this whole thing amounts to pride....
if both sides could swallow some pride this thing could EASILY be diplomatically solved... IMO BOTH sides can be considered in the wrong
you and i both know that easier said than done, an issue like division of Jerusalem, will have estremists on both sides rattling their sabres, its true tho, diplomacy is the way, but will it be accepted?
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that's why i said it all amounts to pride, peeps are going to have to either swalllow some pride, or quite literally...die
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Apocolypse said: "I know Palestine wanted their land back but they needed 2 have patience"
WTF WTF......Are u kidding me? It's their fuckin land.....
Oh god, i dun need 2 get into this.........
how can it be their land man....read tha bible...it"z jewish land....if a palestinian sayez hiz ensestorz had a piece of land it"z prolly true*...but you gotta know tha palestinianz din"t...get this...din"t exist phisiclly untill about 100 yearz ago....they basiclly exist as one nation only on paper...they were united by power seeking bitchez bringin some hypo diclaration yearz after tha YESHUV started...
*to an exstent of course cauze basiclly and formally this land belonged to SHEihz that lived in the country we call today "SYRIA"...people who lived on their land were these guyz...tha phalahz-agreecultural society...pesentz if you will....they never really owned it.
what tha zionistic jews did waz buy tha land from those sheihz to bring back their hystorical land....
and when tha phlahaz felt there iz a change coming they desided to front to become in charge...besidez of them there were lotsa other tribes going through...so after hearing interesting dealz bout land...they agreed to partisipate...thatz all.
nowadayz tha palestinian authonomy iz a terrorism supporting authority...just like afganistan...tha thing that makes it diffrend from thA US-afgan situation iz that it iz exactlly by tha country it herasez...and not on tha other side of tha osion.
"it"z spetember 11th every day here in Israel."
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p.s sharon iz nothin to be blamed for
Completely laughable comment
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Completely laughable comment
HMM...imo loughable iz saying otherwise...cauze if you know tha factz you ain"t gon say it...tha INTIFAADA...(terroristic actionz, riotz,killingz..) started monthz before Ariel Sharon waz elected....in fact they started while a "left wing"-peace in any coast- government waz in ISRAEL...not long after ARAfat delined tha most generous offer(97% of tha demand) ever that waz made by an israeli leader(Ehud Barak)...yall seem to forget why this whole mess started and who"s fault it waz.
learn tha factz. ..."camp david"...arafatz bitchin"....all that shit...think why he declined it....if he wanted a palestinian country\state for real it would"ve existed long time ago....but no...than he"d have to use tha billionz of dollarz of support money on hiz acountz..and he might"Ve lost hiz thrown as tha head of tha authority...and tha PLO and tha HAMAS wit tha JIHAD...would"ve turned against him...
they on some real mafia shit...it ain"t an authority it"z crooked starting from it"z headz....and abuses it"z powerz to hurt their own people....you have no motive supporting them if you know all tha factz...unless you"re some interested politition that haz interestz to overweight another interest....
which i doubt you r. :)
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But you are saying that no blame lies with Sharon - this guy was a madman in the early 80s if I'm correct, and his current illegal occupation of the West Bank is making the situation worse. Of course some blame lies with Sharon as well as Arafat. Get those blinkers off
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I_Geezy, a lot of that is on point.
Jay, Sharon wasn't a politician in the early 80s. He was a soldier. In fact, even the PLA has admitted the rumours about him massacring refugees was bull. He won far too many victories against Israel's enemies, it seems, to allow his reputation to go unstained by them.
BUT...He is simply aggravating the situation, and knowingly. He's no politician. He's a soldier, and that mentality remains.
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But you are saying that no blame lies with Sharon - this guy was a madman in the early 80s if I'm correct, and his current illegal occupation of the West Bank is making the situation worse. Of course some blame lies with Sharon as well as Arafat. Get those blinkers off
well...if you mean tha "sabra and shatila" case...all he did waz not noticing tha falangyz coming...they were tha ones to massacure tha peepz ...not tha soljaz.
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^^but the Phalanges were puppets of Israel, they were armed and trained by the IDF, Sharon was indirectly responsible for what happened in those camps
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^^but the Phalanges were puppets of Israel, they were armed and trained by the IDF, Sharon was indirectly responsible for what happened in those camps
no...if they helped IL in lebanon...it don"t mean they"re pupetz...as for why they did it...they"re(tha phlangyz) known for their fanatic hate towardz muslimz...
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God Bless America. God Bless our President, George Bush.
If you feel like I feel, please put a flag in your avatar.
Peace~
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God Bless America. God Bless our President, George Bush.
If you feel like I feel, please put a flag in your avatar.
Peace~
Either talk about the subject the thread is about, or don't post at all.
Thanks
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The subject bashed america's support in the middle east, so I'm sticking up for America. If you don't like it, don't read it. I'm from America, and this board is out of Britian, both countries who believe in free speech. I just spoke freely.
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Can I clear something up? They aren't called Israelites, they are called Israelis...Israelites was from wayyyy back in the time of the bible...
How would you people feel if the Native Americans and Mexicans came back to US and started bombing us and killing civilians because they want their land back?
There are no Israeli Terrorists...There are A LOT of Palastinien Terrorists...Terrorists = Bad people...There are 2,200 Palastiniens dead because Israel has a strong military...If Palstinien had a strong military there would bemuch more than 2,200 Israelis dead...Get the picture?
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Can I clear something up? They aren't called Israelites, they are called Israelis...Israelites was from wayyyy back in the time of the bible...
How would you people feel if the Native Americans and Mexicans came back to US and started bombing us and killing civilians because they want their land back?
There are no Israeli Terrorists...There are A LOT of Palastinien Terrorists...Terrorists = Bad people...There are 2,200 Palastiniens dead because Israel has a strong military...If Palstinien had a strong military there would bemuch more than 2,200 Israelis dead...Get the picture?
umm nawwwwwww, lol
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...There are 2,200 Palastiniens dead because Israel has a strong military...
well...percent wise...this iz a very small number...did yall know that there iz much mo palestinianz in tha west-bank and GAZA then jews in Israel....so if we"Re talking about JENIN...it"z very much possible...and in this case espesially...that 2000 plus dudes iz a nice lil terroristic squad spread through jenin(tha biggest consentration of terroristz in THa west bank and GAZA).