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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Don Rizzle on February 26, 2004, 07:42:23 AM

Title: British spies bugged UN's Secretary General Kofi Annan
Post by: Don Rizzle on February 26, 2004, 07:42:23 AM
it does come from clare short, and it was reported by the bbc so take it as you will

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UK spies 'bugged UN's Kofi Annan'
 
 
UN Secretary General Kofi Annan
British spies were bugging UN Secretary General Kofi Annan's office in the run up to the Iraq war, former UK cabinet minister Clare Short has claimed.
Ms Short said she had read transcripts of some of Mr Annan's conversations.

She said she recalled thinking, as she talked to Mr Annan: "Oh dear, there will be a transcript of this and people will see what he and I are saying."

Tony Blair said the claims were "deeply irresponsible" and appeared to cast doubt on her future as a Labour MP.


Short's future?

UN officials said they did not know whether the allegations were true or not, but say such actions would have been illegal.

The Secretary General's spokesman, Fred Eckhardt, said Mr Annan had nothing to hide and that anyone who wanted to know his opinion on an issue just had to ask him to his face.

At his monthly news conference the prime minister was repeatedly asked about Ms Short's comments .

 
Clare Short has been a thorn in the government's side since she quit
Mr Blair said: "I'm not going to comment on the work of our security services - do not take that as an indication that the allegations made by Clare Short are true.

"I really do regard what Clare Short has said this morning as totally irresponsible, and entirely consistent."

Asked whether she should be prosecuted or face Labour Party discipline Mr Blair said he would "have to reflect upon" her comments, adding: "There will obviously be issues that arise... I am not in a position to answer them at the moment."

He insisted the UK security services acted in accordance with domestic and international law and in the best interests of this country, but the UN said any British spying on Mr Annan would be illegal.

'Dangerous situation'

Ms Short's comments came the day after the dramatic collapse of the trial of GCHQ whistle-blower Katharine Gun.

She had been accused of leaking a secret e-mail from US spies apparently requesting British help in bugging UN delegates ahead of the Iraq invasion.

  The UK in this time was also getting spies on Kofi Annan's office and getting reports from him about what was going on

Clare Short


 Listen to the full Today programme interview  

The government has denied claims the move to drop the case was politically motivated.

There has been speculation ministers were worried about the disclosure of secret documents during the trial, particularly the advice from Attorney General Lord Goldsmith about the legality of war.

Lord Goldsmith said in a statement to the House of Lords: "It was a decision on solely legal grounds ... and free from any political interference."

Spies there 'for some time'

He said that although they believed they could prove the Official Secrets Act had been breached, they had concluded they could not disprove Mrs Gun's defence "of necessity" - believed to refer to her case that she felt a duty to do something to save lives in an unlawful war.

  I have had conversations with Kofi in the run up to the war thinking 'oh dear, there will be a transcript of this and people will see what he and I are saying

Clare Short
Ex-Cabinet minister


Clare Short transcript
Profile of Clare Short  

However, Mr Blair said it would be a "very dangerous situation" if people thought they could just "spill out allegations, whether false or true ... and get away with it".

During an interview on BBC Radio 4's Today programme Ms Short said British spies were involved in bugging Mr Annan's office in the run up to war with Iraq.

"The UK in this time was also getting spies on Kofi Annan's office and getting reports from him about what was going on," she said.

"These things are done and in the case of Kofi's office, it was being done for some time."

Legal question

Asked if Britain was involved in this, she replied; "Well I know - I've seen transcripts of Kofi Annan's conversations.


 HAVE YOUR SAY
 This sort of grubbing around only serves to undermine the case for going to war and our nation's already shredded reputation

Roger, Wrexham, UK


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"In fact, I have had conversations with Kofi in the run up to the war thinking 'oh dear, there will be a transcript of this and people will see what he and I are saying'."

Asked to confirm if British spies were instructed to carry out operations within the UN on people like Mr Annan, she said: "Yes, absolutely."

Quizzed about whether she knew about this when she was in government, Ms Short responded: "Absolutely. I read some of the transcripts of the accounts of his conversations."

BBC security correspondent Frank Gardner said that many UN officials always worked on the basis that they were being bugged.

But, he added, "that is not to say that it is acceptable if they are not suspected of terrorism or other crimes".

Liberal Democrat leader Charles Kennedy said it was not good enough for Mr Blair to say he could not comment on the security services - especially after publishing intelligence in his Iraq dossiers.

"Tony Blair must now come clean about this central accusation," he said.
 

Title: Re:British spies bugged UN's Secretary General Kofi Annan
Post by: Don Seer on February 26, 2004, 07:47:44 AM
oh dear.. all a bit james bond  ::)


 ;D
Title: Re:British spies bugged UN's Secretary General Kofi Annan
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on February 26, 2004, 04:06:43 PM
Im surprised........the media actually reported this. Yawn.
Title: Re:British spies bugged UN's Secretary General Kofi Annan
Post by: Don Rizzle on February 27, 2004, 02:51:29 AM
interesting that robin cook who was also in the cabinate at the time, who was also leading the opposition to the war (hence leaving the cabinate) said if true he would find it highly suprising.

my view is she is very irresponsible to say that even it was true don't we have enough ppl hating us already why put fuel on the fire!
Title: Re:British spies bugged UN's Secretary General Kofi Annan
Post by: JTSimon on February 27, 2004, 06:55:13 AM
Looks like some1 else is gonna be committing suicide...slice their wrist in the woods  ;D