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Title: Why isnt there just one religon?
Post by: bLaDe on April 10, 2002, 02:03:29 PM
Yeah why, I mean theres so much confusion between religons, and a lotta people died and are dying because of religon .... wouldnt it jus be a lil easier if there was one religon?

 -{bLaDe}
Title: Re: Why isnt there just one religon?
Post by: Youngster323 on April 10, 2002, 02:10:22 PM
yea waaay easier
Title: Re: Why isnt there just one religon?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 10, 2002, 02:11:02 PM
Why isnt there just one look for people? Why isnt there one Race? Why isnt there one personality?


Because everyone thinks different is different...
Title: Re: Why isnt there just one religon?
Post by: Doggystylin on April 10, 2002, 02:21:25 PM
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Why isnt there just one look for people? Why isnt there one Race? Why isnt there one personality?


Because everyone thinks different is different...


yup

we still dont know how to respect and help eachtoher, instead we abuse eachother. Overall the big picture is that we were all made by god and were all human, we should respect eachother and help eachother, but we keep havin bad intentions
Title: Re: Why isnt there just one religon?
Post by: DreSnoop00 on April 10, 2002, 02:38:21 PM
yeah it would be easier with one religion
but some peopel refuse to believe in certain things so there is a another religion that would it their needs
its just cuz everyone is different
Title: Re: Why isnt there just one religon?
Post by: HBKid_Jr on April 10, 2002, 02:57:43 PM
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Why isnt there just one look for people? Why isnt there one Race? Why isnt there one personality?


Because everyone thinks different is different...


word,   this is why i doubt religion is bull shit,  b/c if religion was this peaceful thing,  than why r there so many holy wars,  if it such a peaceful an wonderful thing,  than why is there so much hatred between religions an people dying over it
Title: Re: Why isnt there just one religon?
Post by: bLaDe on April 10, 2002, 03:08:49 PM
Religon was ment to promote peace, but man has corrupted religon...
Its human nature to differ...thaz wht fucks it all up

 -{bLaDe}
Title: Re: Why isnt there just one religon?
Post by: Trauma-san on April 10, 2002, 06:25:35 PM
There's 2 things I get out of this.

1. The whole reason we're here on earth, is so we have a choice.  If their was 1 religion, there'd be no choice.

2.  Tom, good point about religion not being peaceful, it's not.  But, on the other hand... think how many people have died, laid down their life for their religion.  Are you prepared to say that they were all idiots, and their was nothing to it, it was all in their head?  I'm not... Religion must be real, very real, if people would die for it.  
Title: Re: Why isnt there just one religon?
Post by: infinite59 on April 10, 2002, 07:53:26 PM
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Yeah why, I mean theres so much confusion between religons, and a lotta people died and are dying because of religon .... wouldnt it jus be a lil easier if there was one religon?

 -{bLaDe}


This may upset people but I think it's because of the Christians, who had to go and make Jesus into a God, otherwise, they're would just be prophets, and then we would all be very similar in belief in prophets working under God.
Title: Re: Why isnt there just one religon?
Post by: Trauma-san on April 10, 2002, 08:05:17 PM
^^^ that's not true.  Remember, Jesus himself! was killed by religious fanatics, LOL.  How could it be his fault? ^^^
Title: Re: Why isnt there just one religon?
Post by: Doggystylin on April 10, 2002, 08:10:05 PM
He's not saying its Jesus's fault, hes saying its the christians faults
Title: Re: Why isnt there just one religon?
Post by: Sikotic™ on April 10, 2002, 08:21:27 PM
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This may upset people but I think it's because of the Christians, who had to go and make Jesus into a God, otherwise, they're would just be prophets, and then we would all be very similar in believe in prophets working under God.


Christians didn't make Jesus a God, he always was God. That's where I think Muslims are mistaken but I'm not gonna go off topic.

And how could put all the blame on Christians for there being so many religions? Are you forgetting Buddhism and Hinduism and other religions that have nothing to do with Jesus or Christianity?

I'm sorry but that's messed up how you can point the finger like that.

The reason their are so many religions is simple, we are all individuals.



Title: Re: Why isnt there just one religon?
Post by: Trauma-san on April 10, 2002, 08:36:10 PM
My point was, jesus was killed, BEFORE their were christians, DUH, lol.  so it's always been a problem!
Title: Re: Why isnt there just one religon?
Post by: infinite59 on April 10, 2002, 10:01:58 PM
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He's not saying its Jesus's fault, hes saying its the christians faults


Buddism, and Sikism and all those other religions don't have a figure quite like Jesus, human flesh depicted as God.  So therefore, I am saying that we would be very close to a universal religion, if Christians projected Jesus as a prophet, a man, rather than a God.  It's okay if you strongly disagree with me, it's just a theory of mine.
Title: Re: Why isnt there just one religon?
Post by: Trauma-san on April 10, 2002, 10:08:25 PM
Oh, Yeah... I mean, we know how well Pakistan and India get along, LOL.  And we see how well the Jews and the Muslims get along in the middle east (even though they both don't have anything to do with Christ).  
Title: Re: Why isnt there just one religon?
Post by: infinite59 on April 10, 2002, 10:17:38 PM
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Oh, Yeah... I mean, we know how well Pakistan and India get along, LOL.  And we see how well the Jews and the Muslims get along in the middle east (even though they both don't have anything to do with Christ).  


That wasn't the question.  The question was "why isn't there a universal religion."  Your saying, "Why don't we all live in peace" that's another topic all together.


Title: Re: Why isnt there just one religon?
Post by: Trauma-san on April 10, 2002, 10:19:04 PM
Yea, but at least in the middle east one, it's clear it's a religious war.  So there you have 2 religions that have nothing to do with Christ killing each other left and right.  
Title: Re: Why isnt there just one religon?
Post by: infinite59 on April 10, 2002, 10:38:28 PM
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Yea, but at least in the middle east one, it's clear it's a religious war.  So there you have 2 religions that have nothing to do with Christ killing each other left and right.  


Word I agree with you, but that's a different topic.
Title: Re: Why isnt there just one religon?
Post by: Trauma-san on April 10, 2002, 10:43:13 PM
I don't feel it is, because your point is that, Christians cause beef between religions, and are the reason that the religions can't get along.  But that is an example of 2 non-christian religions killing each other mercilessly, showing that even without Christians, diff. religions kill each other.
Title: Re: Why isnt there just one religon?
Post by: bLaDe on April 10, 2002, 10:44:32 PM
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Buddism, and Sikism and all those other religions don't have a figure quite like Jesus, human flesh depicted as God.  So therefore, I am saying that we would be very close to a universal religion, if Christians projected Jesus as a prophet, a man, rather than a God.  It's okay if you strongly disagree with me, it's just a theory of mine.


I thought Jesus said he was the son of God, not God himself?  Dont christians belive that he was a prophet?

 -{bLaDe}
Title: Re: Why isnt there just one religon?
Post by: infinite59 on April 10, 2002, 10:48:40 PM
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I thought Jesus said he was the son of God, not God himself?  Dont christians belive that he was a prophet?

 -{bLaDe}


WORD.  Exactly.  Isn't that confusing.  He says he's the Son of God, and then they go ahead and make him God.  But don't worry, I know the argument coming up from Christian theologists, that he's the embodiment of God.
Title: Re: Why isnt there just one religon?
Post by: Trauma-san on April 10, 2002, 11:04:05 PM
He was god's only son, just like he said.  What's so hard to believe about that?  Yall take things too deep.  Their is no trinity, nothing like that, Jesus is God's son, just like he said he was.  His only begotten son.  Why is that hard to believe, and what is the problem with that?  

BTW, dont' think for a second, that christians are the only ones who believe that!  Have you looked into any Japanese religions, you know, the House of the Rising Sun?  They all feel they're descendants of the Sun Goddess.  At the end of world war II, part of Japan's 'punishment' or whatever, was for the emperor (who lived into the 1980's) to publicly state that he was in fact not a god.  
Title: Re: Why isnt there just one religon?
Post by: Instant_Killa on April 10, 2002, 11:11:28 PM
the anser to this quesition is this

the world is too vast a place, religion needs to be spread accordingly from place to place. but the basic idea of equality , oneness n peace should be same n promoted as a whole. It would just not be possible to follow a particular religion worldwide as it would destroy the traditional religions set by man. People worldwide would not be ready to accept such a state of religion.

Religions may have certain differences and similiarities, however the main idea or belief of 1 universal God should be acknowledged upon all of em.

Peace
Title: Re: Why isnt there just one religon?
Post by: Trauma-san on April 10, 2002, 11:13:22 PM
^^^ But it isn't, *Cough *Cough Hinduism *Cough *Cough ^^^
Title: Re: Why isnt there just one religon?
Post by: Instant_Killa on April 10, 2002, 11:15:04 PM
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^^^ But it isn't, *Cough *Cough Hinduism *Cough *Cough ^^^



what bout hinduism?
Title: Re: Why isnt there just one religon?
Post by: Trauma-san on April 10, 2002, 11:34:14 PM
Don't they believe in multiple gods?
Title: Re: Why isnt there just one religon?
Post by: Instant_Killa on April 10, 2002, 11:53:39 PM
about hinduism, its like ancient roman gods, idols...but


the thing is that these gods were related to each other...serving and forming 1 religion , which was hinduism....that means that they had a master(God), who controlled them for various purposes and hence co-exist. The basic idea was of 1 God imo. Thats how it always is. But, hinduism wasnt looked upon as having 1 universal God, instead several small Gods or prophets.....but i believe the idea must have been same, 1 God.... maybe ppl misunderstood it.

Like i said, religions have differences here n there due to their circumstances or situations, they have been set accordingly.....but there is 1 universal God, thats the basic approach

Peace
Title: Re: Why isnt there just one religon?
Post by: bLaDe on April 11, 2002, 12:02:56 AM
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about hinduism, its like ancient roman gods, idols...but


the thing is that these gods were related to each other...serving and forming 1 religion , which was hinduism....that means that they had a master(God), who controlled them for various purposes and hence co-exist. The basic idea was of 1 God imo. Thats how it always is. But, hinduism wasnt looked upon as having 1 universal God, instead several small Gods or prophets.....but i believe the idea must have been same, 1 God.... maybe ppl misunderstood it.

Like i said, religions have differences here n there due to their circumstances or situations, they have been set accordingly.....but there is 1 universal God, thats the basic approach

Peace



Yes, hindus pray to diffrent GOds like, Shiva, Visnu etc...which represent diffrent things...... The Hindu trinity is of Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva. They are respectively the creator, preserver and destroyer of the universe.

BUT, the Goddesses of Hinduism represent various functions of this One Supreme Divinity, and are not separate Gods.

So basicly, i think it all narrows down to "One God"

Im not too sure since I myself am not hindu....

 -{bLaDe}
Title: Re: Why isnt there just one religon?
Post by: ToNe1904 on April 11, 2002, 01:41:05 AM
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Why isnt there just one look for people? Why isnt there one Race? Why isnt there one personality?


Because everyone thinks different is different...


yah thas true. cept race and lookz arent in our control. Religion is.

U can neva expect there to be ONE religion tho. Itz almost funny tha way people contradict themselves. I mean, supposedly we are seperated frum tha animals...partly because of our ability to rationalize thought, and see different points of view...EXCEPT in religion. And religion is one subject where there really is NO right or wrong. No facts to support. YET, followers of most religions...are COMPLETELY convinced that their religion is tha right one. As an outsider looking in (im not faithful to any specific religion), u get to see tha ideals of different religions thrown back and forth. And u realize how similar ALOT of shit is. With tha exception of a few small rules here and there...most of it is NOT that different. My belief is that religion began as a way to keep people in check. to control their behavior. Basically tha same premise as....when u tell little kids that if they dont behave, Santa wont bring them any toys for Christmas (assuming u celebrate Christmas). Only difference is, Religion works on adults also....the Santa thing doesnt, hopefully lol.
Title: Re: Why isnt there just one religon?
Post by: TheSheriff on April 11, 2002, 03:05:41 AM
To Infinite:

From the Apocryphal of John: 'And God spake unto them,"I am the Father, I am the Mother, I am the Son."'

To Trauma:

Brigham Young, quoted in the Deseret News: "To believe in a divine being apart from God is to be spiritually, if not physically, blacklisted. Thus, to say Jesus is not God, or God is not Jesus, is to sin."
Title: Re: Why isnt there just one religon?
Post by: Big BpG on April 11, 2002, 04:23:39 AM
Well, when I went to phoenix I had to drive through Kansas and I couldn't believe all these religious signs I saw... the radio was filled with church sessions, it was actually quite sickening to hear all of this being promoted like a commercial. One of the signs read.


Know God
Know Peace
No God
No Peace


At first I thought, awww thats quite clever if you believe in all that, but then I thought, that is so false, look at what religion has done... yes there are those who believe it's a good thing and wouldn't harm a bird, but there are others who take it too far and end up... killing themselves over it, start cults against black folks and so on and so on. Thats why I dont believe and won't believe because even those who believe in the same religion see it so differently. Then we have preists who use their powers wrong and molest children. I'll stick with me and not believe.

"If your scared, go to church"  -Snoop Dogg

I'm not scared of anything, not death, so I'll live my life they way I want to.

-Big BpG
Title: Re: Why isnt there just one religon?
Post by: Sikotic™ on April 11, 2002, 03:09:52 PM
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Well, when I went to phoenix I had to drive through Kansas and I couldn't believe all these religious signs I saw... the radio was filled with church sessions, it was actually quite sickening to hear all of this being promoted like a commercial. One of the signs read.


Know God
Know Peace
No God
No Peace


At first I thought, awww thats quite clever if you believe in all that, but then I thought, that is so false, look at what religion has done... yes there are those who believe it's a good thing and wouldn't harm a bird, but there are others who take it too far and end up... killing themselves over it, start cults against black folks and so on and so on. Thats why I dont believe and won't believe because even those who believe in the same religion see it so differently. Then we have preists who use their powers wrong and molest children. I'll stick with me and not believe.

"If your scared, go to church"  -Snoop Dogg

I'm not scared of anything, not death, so I'll live my life they way I want to.

-Big BpG

Yeah that bumper sticker is wrong when looking at the world today. If it was talking about a relationship with God then you are at peace with your life and what direction it is going, then you are at peace, at least I am.
Title: Re: Why isnt there just one religon?
Post by: Sikotic™ on April 11, 2002, 03:10:33 PM
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I don't feel it is, because your point is that, Christians cause beef between religions, and are the reason that the religions can't get along.  But that is an example of 2 non-christian religions killing each other mercilessly, showing that even without Christians, diff. religions kill each other.


That's an excellent comment.