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Title: do you believe???
Post by: MidnightPills on April 09, 2002, 09:10:05 AM
do you believe in satan...

I honestly don't know if i do or not... i mean.. who would want to believe in something so ugly.. and curel.... i have been practicing wicca for a few years now... (since the 8th grade) and i learn more and more about my spirituality... with learning how to meditate and pray to God differentlly.... We see God as not just a Ball of energy... but everywhere.. and in everything... And we call him God/Goddess... he has no name.. he just is.. and always will be... but as for the devil... he does not exist to me... i don't acknowegde that he may or may not exist.... but i just don't understand why anyone would want that in there religion.... I am Catholic.. thats my religion and i practice the Art of wicca... you are able to combine all religion into it.. people always have this belief that wicca and witchcraft are worng.... but it all depends on the wicca or witch.... you can take the bad energy or the good energy ... we choose rather we are bad or good..

So.. what do you honestly beleve?? does he exist to you? ???
Title: Re: do you believe???
Post by: Doggystylin on April 09, 2002, 02:17:27 PM
of course satan is real and exists, hes mentioned in every religion, how can every religion be wrong?, i dont hate satan and fuck no i dont love him ,lol, but what i mean is, jesus treated satan with respect, even if he didnt like him, he still respected him, he was God's creation,if you've read the Bible or the Qu'ran, then you will KNOW he exists. and plus we can all learn some things from satan, not the bad things, but some of the real things and good things, ill get into it later if yall want
Title: Re: do you believe???
Post by: MidnightPills on April 09, 2002, 02:23:39 PM
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of course satan is real and exists, hes mentioned in every religion, how can every religion be wrong?, i dont hate satan and fuck no i dont love him ,lol, but what i mean is, jesus treated satan with respect, even if he didnt like him, he still respected him, he was God's creation, i mean if you've read the Bible or the Qu'ran, then you will KNOW he exists. and plus we can all learn some things from satan, not the bad things, but some of the real things and good things, ill get into it later if yall want

Cool.. do share... when you want.. this is just here to see what people believe...  :)
Title: Re: do you believe???
Post by: bLaDe on April 09, 2002, 02:39:39 PM
yeah i belive in satan, but i jus pray to god, and i dont even think about satan, i jus dont really care....

 -{bLaDe}
Title: ,Re: do you believe???
Post by: HBKid_Jr on April 09, 2002, 03:39:27 PM
stop knockin hell,  its where all tha interesting people are,  2pac,  ty cobb,  walt disney.  if tha devil is real,  id proberly sell my soul 2 him  
Title: Re: do you believe???
Post by: Don Jacob on April 09, 2002, 03:49:21 PM
what doggystylin said
Title: Re: ,do you believe???
Post by: MidnightPills on April 09, 2002, 04:06:00 PM
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stop knockin hell,  its where all tha interesting people are,  2pac,  ty cobb,  walt disney.  if tha devil is real,  id proberly sell my soul 2 him  

??? i hope you are playing??
Title: Re: ,do you believe???
Post by: infinite59 on April 09, 2002, 04:06:52 PM
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stop knockin hell,  its where all tha interesting people are,  2pac,  ty cobb,  walt disney.  if tha devil is real,  id proberly sell my soul 2 him  


Explain.

Really for me, I don't have too large a concept of the devil, honestly, there isn't alot written about him in the Qu'ran, I think I read some passages about him being a snake or something and tempting Adam, (I think) but really, the Qu'ran explains wrong in the earth as what our right hand pososeth.  For example, it does not say, "when man does bad it's cause of the devil, but rather, when man does bad it's because of man."
Title: Re: do you believe???
Post by: Sub-Z on April 09, 2002, 04:52:37 PM
of course i believe is satan.............hell,i am satan(according to blade lol)
Title: Re: do you believe???
Post by: Tha_Chozen_1 on April 09, 2002, 04:53:10 PM
yeah, Satan came as a snake to tempt Eve then Eve temped Adam.  But yeah, there IS a devil AND a hell.  Satan used to be Gods highest angle in command.  Then wanted to be more powerful than God and got the boot. LOL.  He is like a lion seeking who he may devoure, says the Bible.  


DEVIL FACTS and RUMORS (Based on the Bible)

1) RUMOR: The devil rules the under world (Hell).
 
   Fact:  The Devil does not rule hell.  Actually,  no one is  
             even in Hell yet.  The people that die and and do
             not belive in Jesus will be placed in a Temp. Hell
             caled Hades I believe.  Witch is not as "Hellish" as  
             Hell it self.  They will remain there till the time of  
             the White Throne Judgment.  The WTJ is when  
             every body who did not believe in Jesus will be  
             judged for their sins and be cast in the lake of fire  
             (the sencond death).  The Devil him self will      
             then be bound up by God and thrown into Hell    
             along with every one else who did not bow to God,  
             to be tormented for eternity.  


2)  RUMOR:  The Devil is everywhere.
   
    FACT:  No, the Devil can only be in one place at a time.
              Only God is everywhere.

3)  RUMOR: The Devil is very ugly and has horns and a pionty
                tail ect.
   
    FACT: In the Bible, Satan is described as a beautiful
             being. Remember, he was an angle.  






Hope this gives you some info about him. You don't have to believe it, I don't care.  This is just what I believe and what is written in the Bible. Bottom line is that he is out to destroy each and every one of us.

Well,That's all I can think of now.  There are many more.  If you have any spacific questions, ask them and I'll look back later.

Peace.  
Title: Re: do you believe???
Post by: Mr.Pac-Man on April 09, 2002, 05:04:35 PM
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yeah, Satan came as a snake to tempt Eve then Eve temped Adam.  But yeah, there IS a devil AND a hell.  Satan used to be Gods highest angle in command.  Then wanted to be more powerful than God and got the boot. LOL.  He is like a lion seeking who he may devoure, says the Bible.  


DEVIL FACTS and RUMORS (Based on the Bible)

^^^exactly what i has planning to type.....dope stuff!!!!

p.s. what translation of the bible do u have????

1) RUMOR: The devil rules the under world (Hell).
 
   Fact:  The Devil does not rule hell.  Actually,  no one is  
             even in Hell yet.  The people that die and and do
             not belive in Jesus will be placed in a Temp. Hell
             caled Hades I believe.  Witch is not as "Hellish" as  
             Hell it self.  They will remain there till the time of  
             the White Throne Judgment.  The WTJ is when  
             every body who did not believe in Jesus will be  
             judged for their sins and be cast in the lake of fire  
             (the sencond death).  The Devil him self will      
             then be bound up by God and thrown into Hell    
             along with every one else who did not bow to God,  
             to be tormented for eternity.  


2)  RUMOR:  The Devil is everywhere.
   
    FACT:  No, the Devil can only be in one place at a time.
              Only God is everywhere.

3)  RUMOR: The Devil is very ugly and has horns and a pionty
                tail ect.
   
    FACT: In the Bible, Satan is described as a beautiful
             being. Remember, he was an angle.  






Hope this gives you some info about him. You don't have to believe it, I don't care.  This is just what I believe and what is written in the Bible. Bottom line is that he is out to destroy each and every one of us.

Well,That's all I can think of now.  There are many more.  If you have any spacific questions, ask them and I'll look back later.

Peace.  

Title: Re: do you believe???
Post by: Tha_Chozen_1 on April 09, 2002, 05:13:40 PM
I got all kinds. King James. New Living Translation. New King James.  You name it.  I just slaped togetha some quick fast fact on him. ;D
Title: Re: do you believe???
Post by: MidnightPills on April 09, 2002, 05:17:39 PM
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yeah, Satan came as a snake to tempt Eve then Eve temped Adam.  But yeah, there IS a devil AND a hell.  Satan used to be Gods highest angle in command.  Then wanted to be more powerful than God and got the boot. LOL.  He is like a lion seeking who he may devoure, says the Bible.  


DEVIL FACTS and RUMORS (Based on the Bible)

1) RUMOR: The devil rules the under world (Hell).
 
   Fact:  The Devil does not rule hell.  Actually,  no one is  
             even in Hell yet.  The people that die and and do
             not belive in Jesus will be placed in a Temp. Hell
             caled Hades I believe.  Witch is not as "Hellish" as  
             Hell it self.  They will remain there till the time of  
             the White Throne Judgment.  The WTJ is when  
             every body who did not believe in Jesus will be  
             judged for their sins and be cast in the lake of fire  
             (the sencond death).  The Devil him self will      
             then be bound up by God and thrown into Hell    
             along with every one else who did not bow to God,  
             to be tormented for eternity.  


2)  RUMOR:  The Devil is everywhere.
   
    FACT:  No, the Devil can only be in one place at a time.
              Only God is everywhere.

3)  RUMOR: The Devil is very ugly and has horns and a pionty
                tail ect.
   
    FACT: In the Bible, Satan is described as a beautiful
             being. Remember, he was an angle.  






Hope this gives you some info about him. You don't have to believe it, I don't care.  This is just what I believe and what is written in the Bible. Bottom line is that he is out to destroy each and every one of us.

Well,That's all I can think of now.  There are many more.  If you have any spacific questions, ask them and I'll look back later.

Peace.  

Hey I maybe a wiccin.. but i do believe is christ the savior... there are several types of witches.. and i am one that don't believe in cruses and shit like. that.. just healing though rocks.. and candle prayers.. and i only belong to the maker.. who is three in one. the father the son and the holy ghost
Title: Re: do you believe???
Post by: Tha_Chozen_1 on April 09, 2002, 05:19:24 PM
BTW, for all you non - believers out there.  Go cop a Bible and read "Revalations".  It's the last book in the Bibleand it tells what is to come for all.  It tells what happens to those who belive and do not belive.  It tells what happens to Satan, too. Even if you don't want to believe in it, still read it.  It's good readin. ;D
Title: Re: do you believe???
Post by: Tha_Chozen_1 on April 09, 2002, 05:28:07 PM
Yo Pink, If you truly believe in Christ than you wouldn't be a witch of ANY kind.  The Bible says not to go near that stuff.  Not to even be around those who do.  Now, I'm not tellin you that you wrong and need to change and whatever, but it kind of sounds like you need to focus more on Jesus him self and not  worry about wicca and stuff like that.  Num sayin?
Title: Re: do you believe???
Post by: M Dogg™ on April 09, 2002, 05:35:44 PM
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Yo Pink, If you truly believe in Christ than you wouldn't be a witch of ANY kind.  The Bible says not to go near that stuff.  Not to even be around those who do.  Now, I'm not tellin you that you wrong and need to change and whatever, but it kind of sounds like you need to focus more on Jesus him self and not  worry about wicca and stuff like that.  Num sayin?


What he said. I stood aside for too long. Girl, check yourself sometimes.
Title: Re: ,do you believe???
Post by: HBKid_Jr on April 09, 2002, 06:54:01 PM
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Explain.



who wants to talk 2 mother tereasa up in heaven.  Every1 that has a story is in hell,  cuz everything in tha catholic religion is pretty much a sin
Title: Re: do you believe???
Post by: MidnightPills on April 09, 2002, 07:00:58 PM
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Now, I'm not tellin you that you wrong and need to change and whatever, but it kind of sounds like you need to focus more on Jesus him self and not  worry about wicca and stuff like that.  

that comment is totally out there... you not telling me to change.. but you saying i shouldn't worry about wicca?? well Number 1 i was explaining the.. Art of wicca.. and it is not even a religion... number 2 i am catholic.. and i do attend the catholic church often .... number 3... the bible was written to many times to cast people on of society... what are we suppose to believe??
stop being a Bias....
Title: Re: do you believe???
Post by: Tha_Chozen_1 on April 09, 2002, 07:20:26 PM
you shouln't have any thing to do with wicca. "the bible was written to many times...."  boy what an excuse. ::)  heard that too many times.  sounds like you need to stop worrying about how many times the Bible was written or how many people translated it and start looking to the Author for answers, GOD.
Title: Re: do you believe???
Post by: TimeLock on April 09, 2002, 07:22:47 PM
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of course satan is real and exists, hes mentioned in every religion, how can every religion be wrong?, i dont hate satan and fuck no i dont love him ,lol, but what i mean is, jesus treated satan with respect, even if he didnt like him, he still respected him, he was God's creation,if you've read the Bible or the Qu'ran, then you will KNOW he exists. and plus we can all learn some things from satan, not the bad things, but some of the real things and good things, ill get into it later if yall want


for once doggy was talking scent, i agree with him here
Title: Re: do you believe???
Post by: Suga Foot on April 09, 2002, 09:14:53 PM
At least the coffee's hot in hell
Title: Re: do you believe???
Post by: MidnightPills on April 09, 2002, 09:20:39 PM
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At least the coffee's hot in hell

:D
Title: Re: do you believe???
Post by: Trauma-san on April 10, 2002, 11:38:47 AM
Tha_Chozen_One is totally right, Latter Day Saint's acknowledge all that too.  The only thing we 'may' disagree about, is this... Latter Day Saints believe that everyone lives eternally, even those cast into hell.  After all, what kind of punishment is hell if it isn't eternal?  So, peple don't really die there.  Satan is real, he exists.  But the tricky thing is... he's closer to us than we think.  We were all good friends once, before we came to earth, Satan was a great angel.  Jesus and Satan were really tight, when they spoke on earth, they spoke with respect because they were brothers, and knew each other for who knows how long.  Jesus would save Satan's soul if he could.  
Title: Re: do you believe???
Post by: DreSnoop00 on April 10, 2002, 02:37:13 PM
yeah like everyone else is sayin hes real, and basically i agree with what doggystylin said