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Title: Prince VS Michael Jackson
Post by: Don Jacob on March 29, 2004, 01:51:44 PM
i just listened to "purple Rain" for the first time in FOORRRRRRRREVER and i got to say that i think that it's a better album than Thrilller....then that got me thinking....prince has a grip of tight ass jams that are up there with all of Jackos , and i was like damn , prince is better than Michael IMO now. i dunno kinda shocked me cuz i use to run around saying jacko is the best solo artist ever, period, but now i gotta say it's prince, especially after the whole rock n roll hall of fame thing



what do you guys think
Title: Re:Prince VS Michael Jackson
Post by: MANBEARPIG. on March 29, 2004, 02:02:10 PM
they're both incredible.
Title: Re:Prince VS Michael Jackson
Post by: Lincoln on March 29, 2004, 02:04:00 PM
I like Prince more personally.
Title: Re:Prince VS Michael Jackson
Post by: Hatesrats™ on March 29, 2004, 02:04:41 PM
LMFAO......ImO
No contest

PRINCE!!!!

That's like 1d (vs) 4d....lol
(Not sure if 4d even exist's..)

Hatesrats 2oooIV
Title: Re:Prince VS Michael Jackson
Post by: smerlus on March 29, 2004, 02:38:49 PM
Prince does have alot of jams, most of jackson's music sounds dated
Title: Re:Prince VS Michael Jackson
Post by: Leroy on March 29, 2004, 04:03:04 PM
prince
Title: Re:Prince VS Michael Jackson
Post by: Darksider on March 29, 2004, 07:12:08 PM
prince
Title: Re:Prince VS Michael Jackson
Post by: NobodyButMe on March 30, 2004, 10:47:17 AM
prince, if not only for the fact that he wrote everything by himself....i don't think jackson wrote any of his own songs, quincy jones did
Title: Re:Prince VS Michael Jackson
Post by: KURUPTION-81 on March 30, 2004, 11:03:45 AM
Michael jackson gretest artist of all time. Music wouldnt be like what it is today without him. The amount of people he has influenced and the way he has shaped music and music videos . Michael Jackson was ahead of his time, Prince is a great artist but michael jackson is the greatest.
Title: Re:Prince VS Michael Jackson
Post by: Leggy Hendrix on March 30, 2004, 01:29:49 PM
Michael jackson greatest artist of all time. Music wouldnt be like what it is today without him. The amount of people he has influenced and the way he has shaped music and music videos . Michael Jackson was ahead of his time, Prince is a great artist but michael jackson is the greatest.

i agree
Title: Re:Prince VS Michael Jackson
Post by: Trauma-san on March 30, 2004, 08:16:55 PM
prince, if not only for the fact that he wrote everything by himself....i don't think jackson wrote any of his own songs, quincy jones did

You're drunk.  Michael wrote "Ben" in 1970 when he was like 11.  He's been writing, producing, and even choreographing his own dance moves since he was a CHILD.  He doesn't write all his music, but neither does Prince.  Michael, like Prince, is a musical prodigy, and is talented on several instruments, though he rarely plays any live, since he's always spell-binding the crowd with his dance moves.  For instance, he played the drums on "Billie Jean".  He composes on piano, he even plays guitar.  Most of his songs he played percussion instruments on, and he's an incredible beat-boxer, using his voice to lay down the rythm track on almost all of his dance hits.  He's got a voice that can sing ANYTHING, from low bass notes up to some of the highest falsetto notes in pop music; when do people ever cover his music? They don't, because they can't FUCKING SING LIKE THAT!  

That's just his voice.  Lets remember that Fred Astaire has called  Michael the greatest dancer of all time.  He wasn't taught, he taught himself.  He doesn't count steps, he improvises in real time what other dancers spend a lifetime trying to imitate.  His famous Motown 25 performance where he made the moonwalk the most famous dance move of all time, WAS OFF THE CUFF WITH NO PRACTICE REHEARSAL!  At 45? or however old he is, he can still outdance *ANYBODY*, as he routinely proves by shitting all over his own backup dancers in his concerts, and most recently, Justin Timberlake & Usher in his Madison Square Garden concerts a couple years ago.  

Here's just a few of my favorite Michael Jackson songs.  Michael did this in a HANDFULL of albums spread out over a 40 year career; Prince has been putting albums out non-stop, several times a year, for 20 years.  Even still, Prince can't stand up to this, as much of a legend as Prince is.


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I'll Be There
Ben
A.B.C.
I Want You Back
The Love You Save
Who's Lovin' You?
Dancin' Machine
Never Can Say Goodbye
Don't Stop Till You Get Enough
Rock With You
Workin' Day & Night
Can You Feel It
Off The Wall
Girlfriend
She's Out Of My Life
I Can't Help It
It's The Falling In Love
Wanna Be Startin' Somethin
Baby Be Mine
P.Y.T.
The Girl Is Mine
The Man
Thriller
Beat It
Billie Jean
Human Nature
The Lady In My Life
Bad
The Way You Make Me Feel
Another Part Of Me
Man In The Mirror
I Just Can't Stop Loving You
Dirty Diana
Smooth Criminal
Leave Me Alone
Jam
In The Closet
She Drives Me Wild
Remember The Time
I Can't Let Her Get Away
Heal The World
Black Or White
Who Is It?
Give Into Me
Will You Be There?
Keep The Faith
Gone Too Soon
Dangerous
Scream
They Don't Care About Us
Stranger In Moscow
This Time Around
Earth Song
Money
You Are Not Alone
Childhood
2 Bad
History
Little Susie
Smile
Is It Scary?
Blood On The Dance Floor
Ghosts
Superfly Sister
Break Of Dawn
Heaven Can Wait
Unbreakable
You Rock My World
Butterflies
Speechless
Don't Walk Away
Cry
Whatever Happens
Threatened
We Are The World


I mean, come on man.  
Title: Re:Prince VS Michael Jackson
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 31, 2004, 01:01:14 AM
Both are legends...I say Michael though.


Has anyone heard about how Prince recently signed with Columbia, after years of dropping shit independently.
Title: Re:Prince VS Michael Jackson
Post by: Trauma-san on March 31, 2004, 02:24:02 PM
I say good for Prince, I'm not a hater, I wish him the best.  It was good to see him inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of fame last week, he definately deserves it.  If he signed iwth Columbia, I hope it was for 1 album.  He's way too eccentric and his own man to be tied down to any kind of long term contract.  I've read interviews with him, this fucker doesn't even have a concept of time.  He abandoned it.  Literally... he says he doesn't know what time it is, or have any sense of time, because he doesn't live like that.  He just wakes up, goes to sleep, whatever.  He doesn't keep track of hours or days or even months or anything.  Can you believe that shit?  Pretty crazy.  
Title: Re:Prince VS Michael Jackson
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 31, 2004, 04:30:54 PM
Yea...He's been giving his new album out for free at his latest concert to anyone who buys a ticket...I heard he rocked the Staples Center like it's never been rocked a few nights ago.
Title: Re:Prince VS Michael Jackson
Post by: MANBEARPIG. on March 31, 2004, 04:51:05 PM
this fucker doesn't even have a concept of time.  He abandoned it.  Literally... he says he doesn't know what time it is, or have any sense of time, because he doesn't live like that.  He just wakes up, goes to sleep, whatever.  He doesn't keep track of hours or days or even months or anything.  Can you believe that shit?  Pretty crazy.  


Thats some crazy shit, that may be a problem if he signs with Columbia for a long term contract.

I wish I could abandon all time.
Title: Re:Prince VS Michael Jackson
Post by: GoodLuvn169 on March 31, 2004, 05:18:23 PM
i think they're both linked to great music, but my ears enjoy Prince more. ;)
Title: Re:Prince VS Michael Jackson
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on March 31, 2004, 05:24:44 PM
MJJ
Title: Re:Prince VS Michael Jackson
Post by: Neji Huga on March 31, 2004, 08:41:39 PM
Michael jackson gretest artist of all time. Music wouldnt be like what it is today without him. The amount of people he has influenced and the way he has shaped music and music videos . Michael Jackson was ahead of his time, Prince is a great artist but michael jackson is the greatest.
prince, if not only for the fact that he wrote everything by himself....i don't think jackson wrote any of his own songs, quincy jones did

You're drunk.  Michael wrote "Ben" in 1970 when he was like 11.  He's been writing, producing, and even choreographing his own dance moves since he was a CHILD.  He doesn't write all his music, but neither does Prince.  Michael, like Prince, is a musical prodigy, and is talented on several instruments, though he rarely plays any live, since he's always spell-binding the crowd with his dance moves.  For instance, he played the drums on "Billie Jean".  He composes on piano, he even plays guitar.  Most of his songs he played percussion instruments on, and he's an incredible beat-boxer, using his voice to lay down the rythm track on almost all of his dance hits.  He's got a voice that can sing ANYTHING, from low bass notes up to some of the highest falsetto notes in pop music; when do people ever cover his music? They don't, because they can't FUCKING SING LIKE THAT!  

That's just his voice.  Lets remember that Fred Astaire has called  Michael the greatest dancer of all time.  He wasn't taught, he taught himself.  He doesn't count steps, he improvises in real time what other dancers spend a lifetime trying to imitate.  His famous Motown 25 performance where he made the moonwalk the most famous dance move of all time, WAS OFF THE CUFF WITH NO PRACTICE REHEARSAL!  At 45? or however old he is, he can still outdance *ANYBODY*, as he routinely proves by shitting all over his own backup dancers in his concerts, and most recently, Justin Timberlake & Usher in his Madison Square Garden concerts a couple years ago.  

Here's just a few of my favorite Michael Jackson songs.  Michael did this in a HANDFULL of albums spread out over a 40 year career; Prince has been putting albums out non-stop, several times a year, for 20 years.  Even still, Prince can't stand up to this, as much of a legend as Prince is.


----------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'll Be There
Ben
A.B.C.
I Want You Back
The Love You Save
Who's Lovin' You?
Dancin' Machine
Never Can Say Goodbye
Don't Stop Till You Get Enough
Rock With You
Workin' Day & Night
Can You Feel It
Off The Wall
Girlfriend
She's Out Of My Life
I Can't Help It
It's The Falling In Love
Wanna Be Startin' Somethin
Baby Be Mine
P.Y.T.
The Girl Is Mine
The Man
Thriller
Beat It
Billie Jean
Human Nature
The Lady In My Life
Bad
The Way You Make Me Feel
Another Part Of Me
Man In The Mirror
I Just Can't Stop Loving You
Dirty Diana
Smooth Criminal
Leave Me Alone
Jam
In The Closet
She Drives Me Wild
Remember The Time
I Can't Let Her Get Away
Heal The World
Black Or White
Who Is It?
Give Into Me
Will You Be There?
Keep The Faith
Gone Too Soon
Dangerous
Scream
They Don't Care About Us
Stranger In Moscow
This Time Around
Earth Song
Money
You Are Not Alone
Childhood
2 Bad
History
Little Susie
Smile
Is It Scary?
Blood On The Dance Floor
Ghosts
Superfly Sister
Break Of Dawn
Heaven Can Wait
Unbreakable
You Rock My World
Butterflies
Speechless
Don't Walk Away
Cry
Whatever Happens
Threatened
We Are The World


I mean, come on man.  

LMAO 90-95% is how much MJ do not write On your list. 99% is what Prince wrote for him self. He also wrote for others and inspird alot of people. 2pac was the biggest prince fan I knew of.... MJ is great but Prince is KING of Rock... also can you name one person who wrote for or with Prince? Because used the best producers. Dark Child, R. Kelly Quincy Jones etc... bottm line two great voices (both with range) Two great performers 1 KING who started as a Prince. (Victor) no face changes
Title: Re:Prince VS Michael Jackson
Post by: Trauma-san on March 31, 2004, 09:07:02 PM
Sheryl Crow.  Sheryl Crow wrote for prince; do you have any other questions?  Oh, and can you tell me how many #1 hits Prince has had?  BTW, when was the last one?  And.... how many #1 albums he's had?  ... and When was the last one?  ... and how many albums he's had that have sold 54 million and counting?  ... and how many revolutionary dance moves has he trademarked?  ... and how often do hundreds of women and men faint at each of concerts, requiring special medical areas to be constructed as part of the contract? ... and how many rides based around him have they built at Disney world? ... and ... well, I think you get the picture.  
Title: Re:Prince VS Michael Jackson
Post by: Trauma-san on March 31, 2004, 09:10:17 PM
And Michael Didn't write 95% of that? Are you CRAZY? He wrote nearly every #1 hit he's ever had.  He wrote at least 50% of the songs I mentioned, probably many more.  He wrote "We are the world".  He wrote "Thriller".  He wrote "Billie Jean".  He wrote "Heal The World".... He wrote "Will you be There"... he wrote "Black or White".... He wrote "Bad".  I just listed 7 songs in 5 seconds, that the sum of equal more than the sum of prince's quality output from his entire fucking career.  You obviously don't know shit about Michael, and I doubt you know shit about Prince.  
Title: Re:Prince VS Michael Jackson
Post by: Neji Huga on March 31, 2004, 09:19:18 PM
Sheryl Crow.  Sheryl Crow wrote for prince; do you have any other questions?  Oh, and can you tell me how many #1 hits Prince has had?  BTW, when was the last one?  And.... how many #1 albums he's had?  ... and When was the last one?  ... and how many albums he's had that have sold 54 million and counting?  ... and how many revolutionary dance moves has he trademarked?  ... and how often do hundreds of women and men faint at each of concerts, requiring special medical areas to be constructed as part of the contract? ... and how many rides based around him have they built at Disney world? ... and ... well, I think you get the picture.  

Sorry no picture to get. Watch Jackie Wilson & James Brown then tell me how many trade mark dance steps MJ has. Prince has those crazy splits as for Disney world Prince was with waner bros so it would have been bad for Disney to promote someone who gets paid by the same people who own Six Flags Theme parks..... "and how often do hundreds of women and men faint at each of concerts, requiring special medical areas to be constructed as part of the contract?" Happens at most oversea's concerts watch the news.... as far as album sales go No one has out sold mike & no one will. he had america since he was around 9 and didn't let go. However, no one has made more records than prince last number one was around 95' Mikes 93 I belive. you can correct me if I am wrong. However Prince is still better hands down 8)
Title: Re:Prince VS Michael Jackson
Post by: Neji Huga on March 31, 2004, 09:26:08 PM
And Michael Didn't write 95% of that? Are you CRAZY? He wrote nearly every #1 hit he's ever had.  He wrote at least 50% of the songs I mentioned, probably many more.  He wrote "We are the world".  He wrote "Thriller".  He wrote "Billie Jean".  He wrote "Heal The World".... He wrote "Will you be There"... he wrote "Black or White".... He wrote "Bad".  I just listed 7 songs in 5 seconds, that the sum of equal more than the sum of prince's quality output from his entire fucking career.  You obviously don't know shit about Michael, and I doubt you know shit about Prince.  

Diamonds & pearls.. Cream.... 1999... Gold.... Nothing Compares to you... Beattyful ones... Sexy M.F.... 7.... Damn U... All better than your songs from MJ & most of these are not his best work You obviously don't know shit about Prince, and I doubt you know shit about anyone other than Michael. bwt I'm a huge fan of mike no need to get personal. Did I hurt your fellings... The Truth hurts huh? ;D
Title: Re:Prince VS Michael Jackson
Post by: Don Jacob on March 31, 2004, 10:19:28 PM
it's official


i just saw prince live here in bako last night


PRINCE IS THE GOAT!
Title: Re:Prince VS Michael Jackson
Post by: Trauma-san on April 01, 2004, 04:14:23 AM
Man, yall amaze me.  Just because somebody's less known, doesn't mean they're cooler or they're more talented.  It just means they weren't as successful.  End of the day, though, I don't really give a fuck what yall think, we all have our opinions.  Some of us just have the correct one.  
Title: Re:Prince VS Michael Jackson
Post by: Hatesrats™ on April 01, 2004, 08:32:09 AM
I didn't want 2 have and bring this up  :-*
but check the (Prince) resume.... ;)
I doubt Prince need's help writting or creating music.
follow the link homies.
http://home.earthlink.net/~getwild/prince/related.html (http://home.earthlink.net/~getwild/prince/related.html)These are songs that Prince/The Artist/The Artist Formerly Known as Prince has written for other artists

He's defo helped more than a lil' bit...lol
check out the # of people that have covered his catalog
(including a couple of people's former avatar's..)
http://home.earthlink.net/~getwild/prince/covers.html (http://home.earthlink.net/~getwild/prince/covers.html)Covers of Songs Originally Recorded by Prince

I'll drop a couple of the well know Prince tunes...
that can tear/Compare with anything MJ has dropped
(4 various & longterm listen...)

When Doves Cry
Pop Life
Soft And Wet
Uptown
Let´s Go Crazy
1999
Sign O´ The Times
Thieves In The Temple
Diamonds And Pearls
Controversy
I Wanna Be Your Lover
Do Me, Baby
Delirious
Little Red Corvette
I Would Die 4 U
Raspberry Beret
Kiss
Cream
Take Me With U
The Beautiful Ones
Computer Blue
Darling Nikki
Baby I´m A Star
Purple Rain
U Got The Look
Batdance
7
How Come U Don´t Call Anymore
Scarlet Pussy
The Most Beautiful Girl In The World
Betcha By Golly Wow!
(a cover of the Stylistics)
ect....

as far as hit's go...
we all know what the chart's & the heart feel are BULLSHIT!!
what's a hit...?
If i play a song 20 years after it was writtin & it still sound's fresh & never dated, as if it dropped yesterday
sound's like a fucken hit to me.
(I'm gonna play it....)

the (Prince) man's got an album 4 just about every year he's been blessing sound...
releasing 3 disc set's & doing it 4 the fan's who got love
for his talent....
#'s of music locked in his personal vault...

ain't no right or wrong in here...
like what u like & let it be..

But as far as Prince needing help with concept'.....lmao
everyone could take a nudge once in a while,
shitt ask R.Kelly & Teddy Riley how they wrote MJ's best shitt after "Bad"....

Oh well...
(Copp that new Prince album it's fire...)

Hatesrats 2oooIV
I'm a MJ fan aswell...
and opinion's are like assholes.


Title: Re:Prince VS Michael Jackson
Post by: Neji Huga on April 01, 2004, 11:20:00 AM
I didn't want 2 have and bring this up  :-*
but check the (Prince) resume.... ;)
I doubt Prince need's help writting or creating music.
follow the link homies.
http://home.earthlink.net/~getwild/prince/related.html (http://home.earthlink.net/~getwild/prince/related.html)These are songs that Prince/The Artist/The Artist Formerly Known as Prince has written for other artists

He's defo helped more than a lil' bit...lol
check out the # of people that have covered his catalog
(including a couple of people's former avatar's..)
http://home.earthlink.net/~getwild/prince/covers.html (http://home.earthlink.net/~getwild/prince/covers.html)Covers of Songs Originally Recorded by Prince

I'll drop a couple of the well know Prince tunes...
that can tear/Compare with anything MJ has dropped
(4 various & longterm listen...)

When Doves Cry
Pop Life
Soft And Wet
Uptown
Let´s Go Crazy
1999
Sign O´ The Times
Thieves In The Temple
Diamonds And Pearls
Controversy
I Wanna Be Your Lover
Do Me, Baby
Delirious
Little Red Corvette
I Would Die 4 U
Raspberry Beret
Kiss
Cream
Take Me With U
The Beautiful Ones
Computer Blue
Darling Nikki
Baby I´m A Star
Purple Rain
U Got The Look
Batdance
7
How Come U Don´t Call Anymore
Scarlet Pussy
The Most Beautiful Girl In The World
Betcha By Golly Wow!
(a cover of the Stylistics)
ect....

as far as hit's go...
we all know what the chart's & the heart feel are BULLSHIT!!
what's a hit...?
If i play a song 20 years after it was writtin & it still sound's fresh & never dated, as if it dropped yesterday
sound's like a fucken hit to me.
(I'm gonna play it....)

the (Prince) man's got an album 4 just about every year he's been blessing sound...
releasing 3 disc set's & doing it 4 the fan's who got love
for his talent....
#'s of music locked in his personal vault...

ain't no right or wrong in here...
like what u like & let it be..

But as far as Prince needing help with concept'.....lmao
everyone could take a nudge once in a while,
shitt ask R.Kelly & Teddy Riley how they wrote MJ's best shitt after "Bad"....

Oh well...
(Copp that new Prince album it's fire...)

Hatesrats 2oooIV
I'm a MJ fan aswell...
and opinion's are like assholes.



Enough Said 8)...
Title: Re:Prince VS Michael Jackson
Post by: Don Jacob on April 01, 2004, 07:56:13 PM
aright i just say prince LIVE........and man dude isn't frontin....he's just as exciting live as michael jackson if not more....dude can dance, sing, and rock out on the guitar.....i mean shit Centenial garden was ROCKIN' and it's about a quarter of the size of staples center. When he first hit the stage there was a few cheers and shit, but by 11 you couldn't hear yourself scream it was so loud....the only thing that could rival that experience is Jesus Christ coming back, lol. that's how tight that shit was.
Title: Re:Prince VS Michael Jackson
Post by: Shallow on April 01, 2004, 08:35:35 PM
And Michael Didn't write 95% of that? Are you CRAZY? He wrote nearly every #1 hit he's ever had.  He wrote at least 50% of the songs I mentioned, probably many more.  He wrote "We are the world".  He wrote "Thriller".  He wrote "Billie Jean".  He wrote "Heal The World".... He wrote "Will you be There"... he wrote "Black or White".... He wrote "Bad".  I just listed 7 songs in 5 seconds, that the sum of equal more than the sum of prince's quality output from his entire fucking career.  You obviously don't know shit about Michael, and I doubt you know shit about Prince.  

Michael Jackson did not write thriller.
Title: Re:Prince VS Michael Jackson
Post by: Don Jacob on April 01, 2004, 09:00:22 PM
1. wanna be startin somethin- written by michael jackson
2. Baby Be mine-Rod Temperton
3. The Girl is mine-Paul McCartney and Michael Jackson
4. Thriller-Rod Temperton
5. Beat It-Michael Jackson
6. Billie Jean-Michael Jackson
7. Human Nature-steve parcaro and John Bettis
8. Pretty Young Thing-James Ingram and Quincy jones

Produdced by Quincy Jones



Title: Re:Prince VS Michael Jackson
Post by: Trauma-san on April 01, 2004, 09:19:18 PM
My Bad.  I guess you're right... Prince is better than Michael Jackson, because he apparently wrote everyone of his songs.  
Title: Re:Prince VS Michael Jackson
Post by: the408figga on April 01, 2004, 11:07:09 PM

Personally, im with my mayn trauma on this one. The bottom line is Mj has reached soo many people with his music. I dont care what kind of legal drama he is in. You cant write him out of history. You cant take away what he has done.
TO have the childhood success he has had, then flip that into an adult career that may  be the best ever?

Now to me, prince was a dope artist, but he has become too eccentric. His earlier stuff was on par with mj's stuff.  But his recent stuff is just out there. I guess he is just bored of making hits.

At this point, obviously prince is in a good position to make a comeback, with his new cd "musicology" coming soon. It would be interesting to see what he puts out
Title: Re:Prince VS Michael Jackson
Post by: Neji Huga on April 02, 2004, 12:45:20 AM

Personally, im with my mayn trauma on this one. The bottom line is Mj has reached soo many people with his music. I dont care what kind of legal drama he is in. You cant write him out of history. You cant take away what he has done.
TO have the childhood success he has had, then flip that into an adult career that may  be the best ever?

Now to me, prince was a dope artist, but he has become too eccentric. His earlier stuff was on par with mj's stuff.  But his recent stuff is just out there. I guess he is just bored of making hits.

At this point, obviously prince is in a good position to make a comeback, with his new cd "musicology" coming soon. It would be interesting to see what he puts out

All this time and you & Tramua are missing the point. Read everyone's post who wrote about prince being better and look for the mention of Mike. "You cant write him out of history. You cant take away what he has done." No one said Michael Sucks. No one said has was not one of the greatest. All we said was Prince was better. In each one of our replies it says we are MJ fans too. (Not be hating on anyone)Tramua is the one who said all that stuff about Prince that got me & others started. This whole thread is about opinion! Because at the end of the day. Were are all Pac & Biggie fans. We could argue for days about who was better. Same with Rakim, GM Flash, Cube, Jay, Eminem, Nas, & Snoop. Truma asked for facts so we gave some. Another fact is we Love Mike... We just Love Prince a little more. 8)
Title: Re:Prince VS Michael Jackson
Post by: Shallow on April 02, 2004, 06:11:53 AM
I don't think Prince is better because he wrote "more" songs, I think he wrote better songs. Iwas just making a correction to the list of songs Jackson did write. Personally I think their both mediocre artists. Just because you're popular does not neccesarily make you great. Elvis is and was huge, bigger than Jackson, but you won't hear me say he was an amazing artist. Off the top of my head here are some artists that are head and shoulders above both Prince and MJ. Pete Towsend, Lennon or McCartny, Bruce Springsteen, Jimi Hendrix, Roger Waters, Jimmy Page, Niel Young, Brian Wilson.
Title: Re:Prince VS Michael Jackson
Post by: FullSurfDude on April 02, 2004, 06:25:28 AM
Let get this SHIT straight. Michael is the All Time. Through all his struggles and problems with him trying to change his look every damn minuet, he still was putting out hits after hits. You always here about something that he has or did from the past. With Prince, no doubt he's a genius but you don't hardly here shit from him in terms or what things he has done, like for charity or things like that.
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Title: Re:Prince VS Michael Jackson
Post by: Don Jacob on April 02, 2004, 10:18:16 AM
I don't think Prince is better because he wrote "more" songs, I think he wrote better songs. Iwas just making a correction to the list of songs Jackson did write. Personally I think their both mediocre artists. Just because you're popular does not neccesarily make you great. Elvis is and was huge, bigger than Jackson, but you won't hear me say he was an amazing artist. Off the top of my head here are some artists that are head and shoulders above both Prince and MJ. Pete Towsend, Lennon or McCartny, Bruce Springsteen, Jimi Hendrix, Roger Waters, Jimmy Page, Niel Young, Brian Wilson.


Prince VS Pete Townsend....they're equal on guitar, i'd say but prince can outsing, outdance, outperform, and outwrite him any day of the week

Prince VS Lennon and Mccartney- writing wise, lennon and McCartney are the better writters but prince would give them a run for their money, but again prince is a better singer (waaaay better all 4 beatles have horrible voices), he's a better guitarist, pianist, dancer, ect.


Prince VS the Boss- bruce is one of my favorite artists but prince is just better than him in every aspect.........also bruce relies on the e street band, prince could interchange anyone with the revolution and make poppin music...bruce can't say that.

jimi hendrix vs Prince-this is a good argument here. i'd say overall they're about the same

Roger Waters Vs Prince- no contest it's prince all day here, Roger waters and pink floyd wouldn't be THAT band if it wasn't for Gilmore and their first lead singer going crazy.

Jimmy Page-no contest here, prince is on par with page as a guitarist, jimmy page is the most overrated guitarist, and that's all page is....prince is more than just a guitarist.

neil Young-lol c'mon man.....prince all day homie

brian wilson-yes i'll say it brian wilson is a genius, i think he deserves all the credit the beatles get, BUT as an Artist and a performer prince is on par with Brian wilson and surpasses him in many many areas as well



Prince and Jimmi Hendrix= the 2 best solo artists ever
Title: Re:Prince VS Michael Jackson
Post by: Neji Huga on April 02, 2004, 10:56:21 AM
Let get this SHIT straight. Michael is the All Time. Through all his struggles and problems with him trying to change his look every damn minuet, he still was putting out hits after hits. You always here about something that he has or did from the past. With Prince, no doubt he's a genius but you don't hardly here shit from him in terms or what things he has done, like for charity or things like that.
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LMAO... His first album of the Millennia 60% of the sales went to save Sheep. "Rave until The Joy Fantasic" Even had a the reason why on the inside cover just to educate everyone of purchased the album.
Title: Re:Prince VS Michael Jackson
Post by: Shallow on April 02, 2004, 12:12:01 PM
I don't think Prince is better because he wrote "more" songs, I think he wrote better songs. Iwas just making a correction to the list of songs Jackson did write. Personally I think their both mediocre artists. Just because you're popular does not neccesarily make you great. Elvis is and was huge, bigger than Jackson, but you won't hear me say he was an amazing artist. Off the top of my head here are some artists that are head and shoulders above both Prince and MJ. Pete Towsend, Lennon or McCartny, Bruce Springsteen, Jimi Hendrix, Roger Waters, Jimmy Page, Niel Young, Brian Wilson.


Prince VS Pete Townsend....they're equal on guitar, i'd say but prince can outsing, outdance, outperform, and outwrite him any day of the week

Prince VS Lennon and Mccartney- writing wise, lennon and McCartney are the better writters but prince would give them a run for their money, but again prince is a better singer (waaaay better all 4 beatles have horrible voices), he's a better guitarist, pianist, dancer, ect.


Prince VS the Boss- bruce is one of my favorite artists but prince is just better than him in every aspect.........also bruce relies on the e street band, prince could interchange anyone with the revolution and make poppin music...bruce can't say that.

jimi hendrix vs Prince-this is a good argument here. i'd say overall they're about the same

Roger Waters Vs Prince- no contest it's prince all day here, Roger waters and pink floyd wouldn't be THAT band if it wasn't for Gilmore and their first lead singer going crazy.

Jimmy Page-no contest here, prince is on par with page as a guitarist, jimmy page is the most overrated guitarist, and that's all page is....prince is more than just a guitarist.

neil Young-lol c'mon man.....prince all day homie

brian wilson-yes i'll say it brian wilson is a genius, i think he deserves all the credit the beatles get, BUT as an Artist and a performer prince is on par with Brian wilson and surpasses him in many many areas as well



Prince and Jimmi Hendrix= the 2 best solo artists ever


Okay look I don't mean performer, I mean artist, in this case musical artist.

Pete Townsend is the creative genius behind miultiple Who albums and songs. Albums is what I'm judging by. The Boss had like 8 classics in a row, Born To Run, and Darkness, were masterpeices. The Beatles are the Beatles. Niel Young may be tone def, but he is a very good guitarist and even better lyricist. Pink Flloyd. Nothing Prince ever does or did can match the Wall or Dark Side. Prince is godd. Very Good, even Great. But album for album he falls short. and Page is more than just a guitarist, all the original Zeppelin stuff was all page. I mean you could say Hendrix was just a guitarist, but that would be stupid.

Bottom line is Prince is a better all round "entertainer" than all those I mentioned, and so is Jackson. But Elvis was also a hell of an entertainer, but not a great artist. Prince lacks the consistency and creativity for me to place him as high as you do.


Also I forgot to mention Bob Dylan, who pushed forward the way artists write songs by atleast 10 years.
Title: Re:Prince VS Michael Jackson
Post by: white Boy on April 02, 2004, 01:41:51 PM
i never really got into Prince, and Michael.. hes the king...
Title: Re:Prince VS Michael Jackson
Post by: Trauma-san on April 02, 2004, 07:32:03 PM
I dunno, man, there's some real ignorance in this thread, I think.  I think if most of you got into some of these people more, you'd have different opinions, for one, the biggest travesty is dude that said Elvis wasn't great.  You have got to be shitting me.  If you think all he could do was shake his hand and eat pizza on stage, you're wrong, this man had one of the greatest voices of ALL TIME, anywhere, anybody, ever recorded.  And Don, saying all 4 Beatles had horrible voices? Are you retarded?  I could see where you could say that Ringo's voice was just normal, or maybe you didn't like the lilt in George's voice, but Paul and John had great voices!  They could do whatever they wanted... listen to John's "Twist and Shout" and tell me he had a horrible voice.  You've got to be on crack.  Listen to Paul's "Here there and Everywhere" and tell me he had a horrible voice.  
Title: Re:Prince VS Michael Jackson
Post by: Shallow on April 02, 2004, 08:02:20 PM
Look man I love Elvis, there are very few people i would rather hear sing any song. When Elvis adopts a song he takes to higher level than anyone before or after, (except for unchained melody, Elvis version was good, but Hatfield's was perfect). However, as a creator, writer of lyric and music, Elvis could never match up with someone like Springsteen.
Title: Re:Prince VS Michael Jackson
Post by: Trauma-san on April 02, 2004, 10:35:07 PM
you said "You won't hear me saying he's an amazing artist"... he's CLEARLY an amazing artist.  
Title: Re:Prince VS Michael Jackson
Post by: Danté Williams on April 03, 2004, 03:20:14 AM
Michael Jackson is great, no one can disagree with that. But, come on. Prince is pure genius. He plays every fucking instrument there is. Ever seen those classic lines on Prince's albums: "Produced, arranged, composed & performed by Prince"? That means that he got in the studio by himself and got out with a record under his arm. Drums, keyboard, guitar, whatever. Seen him do that guitar solo in the Rock&Roll Hall of Fame a couple of weeks ago? That shit was un-fucking-believable. He writes ALL his songs, except when he does a cover or something. Michael writes SOME of his songs. From where I see it, MJ is a great SINGER. Prince is a great MUSICIAN.

MJ may be the King of Pop. Prince is the King of Music. Prince has done pop, funk, r&b, hiphop, rock, reggae, tecno, dance... I've heard Prince sing with his normal voice, sing in falsetto, I've heard him rap and do raggamuffin, I've heard him sing shouting...he has done almost everything that can be done in music.

MJ hit the right note when he was with the Jackson Five and has kept hitting it since. He's been doing the same music for 30 years. Prince keeps experimenting with music. His last album (before "Musicology") was "NEWS", an instrumental jazz/funk record. No Prince album sounds like his previous one.

And I'm telling y'all, I love MJ. He's got some of the greatest songs out there, Straight classics. But in terms of musicianship and talent, there is no contest. If you like MJ better than Prince? Nice! Everyone's got their own taste and liking MJ is having good taste in music no doubt. But let's not deny the obvious.
Title: Re:Prince VS Michael Jackson
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on April 03, 2004, 03:03:11 PM
michael jackson, fuck what prince done/did.....the shit mj did back in his thriller days still aint gettin fucked with imo

pz
Title: Re:Prince VS Michael Jackson
Post by: Neji Huga on April 05, 2004, 01:33:34 PM
Michael Jackson is great, no one can disagree with that. But, come on. Prince is pure genius. He plays every fucking instrument there is. Ever seen those classic lines on Prince's albums: "Produced, arranged, composed & performed by Prince"? That means that he got in the studio by himself and got out with a record under his arm. Drums, keyboard, guitar, whatever. Seen him do that guitar solo in the Rock&Roll Hall of Fame a couple of weeks ago? That shit was un-fucking-believable. He writes ALL his songs, except when he does a cover or something. Michael writes SOME of his songs. From where I see it, MJ is a great SINGER. Prince is a great MUSICIAN.

MJ may be the King of Pop. Prince is the King of Music. Prince has done pop, funk, r&b, hiphop, rock, reggae, tecno, dance... I've heard Prince sing with his normal voice, sing in falsetto, I've heard him rap and do raggamuffin, I've heard him sing shouting...he has done almost everything that can be done in music.

MJ hit the right note when he was with the Jackson Five and has kept hitting it since. He's been doing the same music for 30 years. Prince keeps experimenting with music. His last album (before "Musicology") was "NEWS", an instrumental jazz/funk record. No Prince album sounds like his previous one.

And I'm telling y'all, I love MJ. He's got some of the greatest songs out there, Straight classics. But in terms of musicianship and talent, there is no contest. If you like MJ better than Prince? Nice! Everyone's got their own taste and liking MJ is having good taste in music no doubt. But let's not deny the obvious.
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