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Title: Most Overrated producer/DJ
Post by: MANBEARPIG. on April 02, 2004, 03:06:41 PM
In Spirit of the "Most Overrated Rapper" thread:
Timbaland
Kay Slay
Title: Re:Most Overrated producer/DJ
Post by: white Boy on April 02, 2004, 03:15:31 PM
well if u say kay slay, u mean Dj who makes mixtapes, i say everyone EXEPT Green Lantern, dirty harry, dj vlad.( casue they actually mix shit).
And ill agree with timbaland...
Title: Re:Most Overrated producer/DJ
Post by: Don Breezio on April 02, 2004, 03:57:56 PM
Timbaland
Swizz Beats - he used to be dope but lately..wtf

all (mixtape) dj's are weak...
Title: Re:Most Overrated producer/DJ
Post by: BL7 on April 02, 2004, 04:18:33 PM
Dr. Dre
The Neptunes
Kanye West

Dunno about DJs 'cause I rarely listen to mixtapes.
Title: Re:Most Overrated producer/DJ
Post by: PhantomChild on April 02, 2004, 08:31:39 PM
Dr. Dre


Title: Re:Most Overrated producer/DJ
Post by: Jome on April 02, 2004, 09:36:32 PM
LOL @ Timbaland..
Duke sets the most trends, creates new sounds, and makes sick beats all the time, yet he's barely mentioned when it comes to mentioning hiphops top producers..
I guess backpack type of foos can't relate to his new age synths and unortodox drum patterns.
Title: Re:Most Overrated producer/DJ
Post by: Don Breezio on April 03, 2004, 12:40:17 AM
LOL @ Timbaland..
Duke sets the most trends, creates new sounds, and makes sick beats all the time, yet he's barely mentioned when it comes to mentioning hiphops top producers..
I guess backpack type of foos can't relate to his new age synths and unortodox drum patterns.


lmfao...jome your a fuckin dumbass...nobody in this thread so far that has said timbo was overrated is a "backpack type of foo"...im probably the closest thing and i like timbaland...i just think he's overrated. he hasnt started shit.
Title: Re:Most Overrated producer/DJ
Post by: Leggy Hendrix on April 03, 2004, 01:49:07 AM
i disagree with Timbaland, although i do think he goes through phases of extreme wackness.But i suppose you could say that about a lot of producers. Im gonna have to say The Neptunes - im sick of hearing the same shit in every song they produce.
Title: Re:Most Overrated producer/DJ
Post by: Kill on April 03, 2004, 03:40:59 AM
Neptunes, but they can be creative too, if they want to

Primo is kinda startin to get overrated, almost every song he produces is dope, but it's startin to get hella formulatic

Dre is dope as hell, but there's alot of people who dick-ride him way to hard
Title: Re:Most Overrated producer/DJ
Post by: On The Edge of Insanity on April 03, 2004, 06:59:28 AM
Dr Dre
Timbaland
Title: Re:Most Overrated producer/DJ
Post by: Throwback on April 03, 2004, 06:59:41 AM
lil jon
Title: Re:Most Overrated producer/DJ
Post by: On The Edge of Insanity on April 03, 2004, 07:00:51 AM
lil jon

Damn straight
Title: Re:Most Overrated producer/DJ
Post by: T-Dogg on April 03, 2004, 07:01:00 AM
Gotta go with Swizz Beatz. I don't think his earlier dope stuff isn't shit compared to others, like Quik or Dre or Primo or Timbo or Warren or...
Title: Re:Most Overrated producer/DJ
Post by: Throwback on April 03, 2004, 07:40:52 AM
producers like lil jon make always beats that sound the same, a bass and a flute or sumthin.. always the same tempo.. sounds cool for 2 songs, but fuck anything lil jon puts out now

same with swizz lately..
Title: Re:Most Overrated producer/DJ
Post by: West C. Connected on April 03, 2004, 07:44:43 AM
Timbaland is a better producer than Premo.
Premo might make better songs than Timbaland.

Premo only cuts up samples and shit, Timbaland is VERY original.



*waits for the disses and Lil' Jon like "WHAT!!!!" replies* :P
Title: Re:Most Overrated producer/DJ
Post by: Kill on April 03, 2004, 08:07:05 AM
^^ i agree timbo's more original, but i'm just feelin prim's formulatic beats
Title: Re:Most Overrated producer/DJ
Post by: On The Edge of Insanity on April 03, 2004, 11:46:38 AM
But Premos beats still sound better than Timbaland's anyday, so I don't really care how original Timbaland may be. To be honest I haven't really felt a Timbaland beat since his earlier work with Aaliyah.
Title: Re:Most Overrated producer/DJ
Post by: white Boy on April 03, 2004, 12:04:38 PM
omg, how did I forget the Neptunes, lol. i think they are THE MOST overated producers.....
Title: Re:Most Overrated producer/DJ
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 03, 2004, 12:28:05 PM
Lil Jon
Neptunes
Kanye West
Battlecat
Title: Re:Most Overrated producer/DJ
Post by: SGV on April 03, 2004, 01:15:42 PM
Necro(Only liked by Juggalos)
Just Blaze(Mr. Swizz Beats Jr.)
Swizz Beats(Mr. Follow Trends)
Battlecat(there's only so many times he can sample Zapp)
Hi-Tek(Actually, his shit with Kweli and them is tight. But with Snoop, his production is weak)
Dre(Doesn't do shit anymore)

Timbaland does beats that a lot of Underground artists do. He just has more money funding him, so they sound more professional.

DJ's wise. Kay Slay and all them aren't really DJ's. So, yes, they're overrated. I'm sure they can mix, but they can't test Beat Junkies, Scratch Piklz, X-Ecutioners, etc.
Title: Re:Most Overrated producer/DJ
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 03, 2004, 01:32:16 PM
Necro(Only liked by Juggalos)


LMAO@That comment...Shows the ignorance that exists today in Hip-Hop...I doubt you've even heard a Necro beat. :-X
Title: Re:Most Overrated producer/DJ
Post by: KING VerbalAssaulta on April 03, 2004, 01:36:53 PM
the most overrated is the neptunes...

also...lil john(he's a short term gimmick, and also just blaze
Title: Re:Most Overrated producer/DJ
Post by: Smooth on April 03, 2004, 01:49:45 PM
Lil Jon, and Timbaland... I used to love Timbo's older beats on his first 2 cd's and some of his features... but im not feelin a whole lot of his newer beats...
Title: Re:Most Overrated producer/DJ
Post by: Darksider on April 03, 2004, 06:16:19 PM
Hi-Tek
just blaze
Title: Re:Most Overrated producer/DJ
Post by: Jome on April 03, 2004, 08:30:23 PM

lmfao...jome your a fuckin dumbass...nobody in this thread so far that has said timbo was overrated is a "backpack type of foo"...im probably the closest thing and i like timbaland...i just think he's overrated. he hasnt started shit.


Well I said it, you little jackass, and it's the truth.
You're nothing remotely close to a "backpack type of foo", you're a commercial mainstream type of foo who likes "hits".
I was referring to the Waiting for the DJ etc. kinda hiphop fans, I'd be pretty surprised if he liked Timbaland.. of course there's nothing wrong with not liking him, Timbaland might be too commercial for some.

Doesn't mean that he haven't set trends and been a leader within his field.. and that's NOT to compete with DJ Premo btw, gotta laugh at D-Metro for that blunder...  ;D

Title: Re:Most Overrated producer/DJ
Post by: Don Breezio on April 03, 2004, 09:20:59 PM

lmfao...jome your a fuckin dumbass...nobody in this thread so far that has said timbo was overrated is a "backpack type of foo"...im probably the closest thing and i like timbaland...i just think he's overrated. he hasnt started shit.


Well I said it, you little jackass, and it's the truth.
You're nothing remotely close to a "backpack type of foo", you're a commercial mainstream type of foo who likes "hits".
I was referring to the Waiting for the DJ etc. kinda hiphop fans, I'd be pretty surprised if he liked Timbaland.. of course there's nothing wrong with not liking him, Timbaland might be too commercial for some.

wow you know absolutely nothing about my music taste...im a commercial fan who likes hits?...heres an excerpt from my list of cds jome...

Quote
1 Giant Leap
•   Self Titled
9th Wonder
•   God’s Stepson
Afu Ra
•   Life Force Radio
Ali Vegas
•   Heir To The Throne (Hosted By DJ On Point)
Atmosphere
•   GodLovesUgly
•   Greatest Hits
•   Lucy Ford
•   Overcast!
•   Seven’s Travels
A Tribe Called Quest
•   Hits, Rarities, & Remixes
AZ
•   Aziatic
Boot Camp Clik
•   For The People
Brother Ali
•   Shadows On The Sun
Canibus
•   Rip The Jacker
Common
•   Like Water For Chocolate
•   One Day It’ll All Make Sense
•   Resurrection
CunninLynguists
•   Will Rap For Food
Gang Starr
•   Moment Of Truth
•   The Ownerz
Gravediggaz
•   The Pick, The Sickle, & The Shovel
Guru
•   Jazzmatazz: Streetsoul
GZA/Genius
•   The Legend Of The Liquid Sword
Immortal Technique
•   Revolutionary Vol. 1
•   Revolutionary Vol. 2
Inspectah Deck
•   The Movement
Jeru The Damaja
•   Wrath Of The Math
John Forte
•   Poly Sci
Jurassic 5
•   Power In Numbers
Little Brother
•   The Listening
Mos Def
•   Black On Both Sides
•   Blackstar (W/ Talib Kweli)
Murs
•   3:16: The 9th Edition
Nas
•   From Illmatic To Stillmatic: The Remixes
•   God’s Son (2 Disc)
•   I Am…
•   Illmatic: 10th Anniversary Edition (2 Disc)
•   It Was Written
•   The Lost Tapes
•   Nastradamus
•   Stillmatic
Pete Rock & CL Smooth
•   The Good Life: The Best Of…
Raekwon
•   The Lex Diamond Story
•   Only Built 4 Cuban Linx
Royce Da 5’9”
•   Death Is Certain
•   Rock City
Soul Supreme
•   Soulmatic
Sticky Fingaz
•   [Blacktrash] The Autobiography Of Kirk Jones
Swollen Members
•   Monsters In The Closet
Talib Kweli
•   Beautiful Struggle (Advance)
•   Quality
•   Reflection Eternal (W/ Hi-Tek)
Tragedy Khadafi
•   Still Reportin’
Will.I.Am
•   Lost Change
Wu-Tang Clan
•   Enter The Wu-Tang: 36 Chambers
Wyclef Jean
•   The Carnival
•   The Ecleftic: 2 Sides To A Book
•   Greatest Hits
•   Masquerade
•   The Preachers Son (w/ Bonus DVD)
Z-Ro
•   The Life Of Joseph W. Mcvey

I Rest My Case
Title: Re:Most Overrated producer/DJ
Post by: pappy on April 03, 2004, 09:23:59 PM
neptunes
lil jon
battlecat
Title: Re:Most Overrated producer/DJ
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 04, 2004, 12:35:30 AM

lmfao...jome your a fuckin dumbass...nobody in this thread so far that has said timbo was overrated is a "backpack type of foo"...im probably the closest thing and i like timbaland...i just think he's overrated. he hasnt started shit.


Well I said it, you little jackass, and it's the truth.
You're nothing remotely close to a "backpack type of foo", you're a commercial mainstream type of foo who likes "hits".
I was referring to the Waiting for the DJ etc. kinda hiphop fans, I'd be pretty surprised if he liked Timbaland.. of course there's nothing wrong with not liking him, Timbaland might be too commercial for some.

Doesn't mean that he haven't set trends and been a leader within his field.. and that's NOT to compete with DJ Premo btw, gotta laugh at D-Metro for that blunder...  ;D




Well, I like all sorts of Hip-Hop, and one of my favortie sub-genre's is what you people call "backpack Hip-Hop"...I also think Timbaland is one of the best, and most influential producers in the game. I believe that everyone respects Timbo, from hardcore Esham fans, to softass Lil Jon fans...PeACe
Title: Re:Most Overrated producer/DJ
Post by: DJ_Jay_Deee on April 04, 2004, 06:12:52 AM
Timbaland is a better producer than Premo.
Premo might make better songs than Timbaland.

Premo only cuts up samples and shit, Timbaland is VERY original.



*waits for the disses and Lil' Jon like "WHAT!!!!" replies* :P

Cutting up samples takes skill. I use a lot of samples in my production and it's pretty hard to flip a sample like primo does.
Title: Re:Most Overrated producer/DJ
Post by: West C. Connected on April 04, 2004, 06:17:26 AM
Timbaland is a better producer than Premo.
Premo might make better songs than Timbaland.

Premo only cuts up samples and shit, Timbaland is VERY original.



*waits for the disses and Lil' Jon like "WHAT!!!!" replies* :P

Cutting up samples takes skill. I use a lot of samples in my production and it's pretty hard to flip a sample like primo does.

Yup, it is, but a lot of Timbaland's beats are harder to make.
Title: Re:Most Overrated producer/DJ
Post by: Kill on April 04, 2004, 09:39:16 AM
Necro(Only liked by Juggalos)
Swizz Beats(Mr. Follow Trends)
Battlecat(there's only so many times he can sample Zapp)

1. didn't know i'm a juggalo

2. kinda true, but it ain't like he gets THAT much props, at least not from people i know, and he's decent

3. lol word, forgot about him, he did sum tight shit tho



Kanye West

i know about the big hype, but explain this. i'm really feelin 95% of his beats



and as for timbo and prim, i do believe cuttin in samples like he does is hard, but also i think after 15 years of doin that it ain't that challengin no more, so even tho i feel almost all of primo's beats i got respect for timbo cause he keeps tryin out new shit and primo don't really
Title: Re:Most Overrated producer/DJ
Post by: Live-N-Die-N-LA on April 04, 2004, 12:15:23 PM
Lil Jon hands down.
Title: Re:Most Overrated producer/DJ
Post by: azn_h0ney on April 04, 2004, 12:19:44 PM
Lil Jon hands down.

lil jons song r kinda the same...... i luv that song wid pitbull tho.... CULO! soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo cool :D



see.....its even in my siggy \/ \/ \/ \/  ::)
Title: Re:Most Overrated producer/DJ
Post by: SGV on April 04, 2004, 01:58:25 PM
NIK. Go to Atlanta and hit a club. When they throw on Lil Jon, tell me those cats are soft. LMAO @ this cat.

It's funny how you try so hard to be a backpacker. You obviously don't know shit about Lil Jon's true fan base. And you really don't know about Underground shit. Go to some Underground shows, then you'll learn.
Title: Re:Most Overrated producer/DJ
Post by: RickTheJapper on April 04, 2004, 02:01:12 PM
NIK. Go to Atlanta and hit a club. When they throw on Lil Jon, tell me those cats are soft. LMAO @ this cat.

It's funny how you try so hard to be a backpacker. You obviously don't know shit about Lil Jon's true fan base. And you really don't know about Underground shit. Go to some Underground shows, then you'll learn.

man i dun kno nuffin bout no lil jon...but i knew dis dude in da penn named big joey...nicca lived up to his name dats fo sho

i'll tell ya what though...in da clubs man...what really gets niggaz assez shakin...that brintay spearz toxic shit...nicca datz da bomb!
Title: Re:Most Overrated producer/DJ
Post by: Neji Huga on April 04, 2004, 04:48:38 PM
DJ Clue.... P. Diddy.... Jermaine Dupri... Irv Gotti... It's a Four way Tie! ;D
Title: Re:Most Overrated producer/DJ
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 05, 2004, 02:33:45 AM
NIK. Go to Atlanta and hit a club. When they throw on Lil Jon, tell me those cats are soft. LMAO @ this cat.

It's funny how you try so hard to be a backpacker. You obviously don't know shit about Lil Jon's true fan base. And you really don't know about Underground shit. Go to some Underground shows, then you'll learn.

I try hard to be a backpacker? LMAO, you're such an idiot dude, Necro and Non-Phixion aren't even considered backpacker Hip-Hop...Please go learn your shit before you reply again, you fuckin' dickhead...I don't try hard to be anything, I love all sorts of Hip-Hop, and I'll school anyone on this board...I'm the most open-minded person when it comes to music...I can bump Warren G, then switch to some Immortal Tech, then bump some Outkast, and after that, I'll blast some Necro...Is that what you consider a wannabe backpacker? You idiot.


Kanye West

i know about the big hype, but explain this. i'm really feelin 95% of his beats



I like Kanye's production a lot, but people have been labeling him one of the greatest rap producers ever, and/or Hip-Hop's savior...Shit is starting to get on my nerves...But I know he's a dope producer, it's not as bad as the Lil Jon dickriders or anything.
Title: Re:Most Overrated producer/DJ
Post by: Neji Huga on April 05, 2004, 01:52:13 PM
NIK. Go to Atlanta and hit a club. When they throw on Lil Jon, tell me those cats are soft. LMAO @ this cat.

It's funny how you try so hard to be a backpacker. You obviously don't know shit about Lil Jon's true fan base. And you really don't know about Underground shit. Go to some Underground shows, then you'll learn.

I try hard to be a backpacker? LMAO, you're such an idiot dude, Necro and Non-Phixion aren't even considered backpacker Hip-Hop...Please go learn your shit before you reply again, you fuckin' dickhead...I don't try hard to be anything, I love all sorts of Hip-Hop, and I'll school anyone on this board...I'm the most open-minded person when it comes to music...I can bump Warren G, then switch to some Immortal Tech, then bump some Outkast, and after that, I'll blast some Necro...Is that what you consider a wannabe backpacker? You idiot.


Kanye West

i know about the big hype, but explain this. i'm really feelin 95% of his beats



I like Kanye's production a lot, but people have been labeling him one of the greatest rap producers ever, and/or Hip-Hop's savior...Shit is starting to get on my nerves...But I know he's a dope producer, it's not as bad as the Lil Jon dickriders or anything.
You said it yourself he's Dope... Your either helping or your hurting. btw The most orverrated not just over rated. That's why I named my top four. Everyone can name reasons why Lil Jon is overated. Most of them will sound like the reasons Clue is overated. Lil Jon comes with some hot beats, he jst makes sure all the tracks sound a like(Yeah, What, Okay,... Dj Clue, Desert Storm, Killumanati!!!)... P. Diddy samples other people's tracks that were hot about 5-10 years ago... Irv Gotti uses the same tracks he has given to other people for his people... JD jsut gives you One or Two hot tracks and pretends your album is tite while he rapes you as Executive Producer.... Then they get credit like the did something. >:(
Title: Re:Most Overrated producer/DJ
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 05, 2004, 01:57:28 PM
NIK. Go to Atlanta and hit a club. When they throw on Lil Jon, tell me those cats are soft. LMAO @ this cat.

It's funny how you try so hard to be a backpacker. You obviously don't know shit about Lil Jon's true fan base. And you really don't know about Underground shit. Go to some Underground shows, then you'll learn.

I try hard to be a backpacker? LMAO, you're such an idiot dude, Necro and Non-Phixion aren't even considered backpacker Hip-Hop...Please go learn your shit before you reply again, you fuckin' dickhead...I don't try hard to be anything, I love all sorts of Hip-Hop, and I'll school anyone on this board...I'm the most open-minded person when it comes to music...I can bump Warren G, then switch to some Immortal Tech, then bump some Outkast, and after that, I'll blast some Necro...Is that what you consider a wannabe backpacker? You idiot.


Kanye West

i know about the big hype, but explain this. i'm really feelin 95% of his beats



I like Kanye's production a lot, but people have been labeling him one of the greatest rap producers ever, and/or Hip-Hop's savior...Shit is starting to get on my nerves...But I know he's a dope producer, it's not as bad as the Lil Jon dickriders or anything.
You said it yourself he's Dope... Your either helping or your hurting. btw The most orverrated not just over rated. That's why I named my top four. Everyone can name reasons why Lil Jon is overated. Most of them will sound like the reasons Clue is overated. Lil Jon comes with some hot beats, he jst makes sure all the tracks sound a like(Yeah, What, Okay,... Dj Clue, Desert Storm, Killumanati!!!)... P. Diddy samples other people's tracks that were hot about 5-10 years ago... Irv Gotti uses the same tracks he has given to other people for his people... JD jsut gives you One or Two hot tracks and pretends your album is tite while he rapes you as Executive Producer.... Then they get credit like the did something. >:(


Kanye's hot, but people give him more credit than he deserves...Lil Jon is whack, all his beats sound the same, and they're all simple as hell to make...Irv Gotti sucks, P Diddy doesn't even produce, and JD isn't overrated, because I've never seen anyone give him any credit production-wise...PeACe