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Title: To All The Linkin Park Haters...
Post by: Don Breezio on April 08, 2004, 08:42:05 PM
im tired of hearing that linkin park is just pop music...so heres a few lines from them just to prove you guys wrong.

"with your lack of skill and versility your killin me/
and a DJ in the group just for credibility/"

"so you pick up the pen and wright yourself a new identity/
but mentally you don't have the hip hop energy/
with a tendency to make up stories/
soundin' like the only hip hop you've heard is top 40"

"so when i battle you can't hack it/
react with wack shit and get smacked with verbal backflips"

"nobody in the world is safe when we melt down the wax in your empty crate"

"everybody on board as we blend the sword with the pen/
the mightiest of weapons swingin right for the chin"

"so you can try on/
leave you without a shoulder to cry on/
from now until infinity let icons be bygones/"

"sing-song karaoke copy bullshit! break bones verbally with sticks and stone tactics!"

thats just from 3 songs...just a few lines from each that i felt were dope as fuck...if you consider that type of shit pop...you need to check your music judgement.
Title: Re:To All The Linkin Park Haters...
Post by: GoodLuvn169 on April 08, 2004, 09:01:23 PM
im tired of hearing that linkin park is just pop music...so heres a few lines from them just to prove you guys wrong.

"with your lack of skill and versility your killin me/
and a DJ in the group just for credibility/"

"so you pick up the pen and wright yourself a new identity/
but mentally you don't have the hip hop energy/
with a tendency to make up stories/
soundin' like the only hip hop you've heard is top 40"

"so when i battle you can't hack it/
react with wack shit and get smacked with verbal backflips"

"nobody in the world is safe when we melt down the wax in your empty crate"

"everybody on board as we blend the sword with the pen/
the mightiest of weapons swingin right for the chin"

"so you can try on/
leave you without a shoulder to cry on/
from now until infinity let icons be bygones/"

"sing-song karaoke copy bullshit! break bones verbally with sticks and stone tactics!"

thats just from 3 songs...just a few lines from each that i felt were dope as fuck...if you consider that type of shit pop...you need to check your music judgement.
Why does it matter so much to you what other people think?  If you like the music listen to it.  Who cares what category other people put them into. ::) ::)
Title: Re:To All The Linkin Park Haters...
Post by: Don Breezio on April 08, 2004, 09:06:30 PM
i care because people are so damn close minded they hear a single on the radio and don't even think that the album may be better.
Title: Re:To All The Linkin Park Haters...
Post by: Doggystylin on April 08, 2004, 09:39:08 PM
i always considered linkin park dope
Title: Re:To All The Linkin Park Haters...
Post by: Trizz on April 08, 2004, 09:39:39 PM
luke we NEVER agree but i have to agree with you
my niggas here in my hood would kill me if all of them knew
but only a few do but i like some rock too and i like linkin park  they nice on the mic people should expand there mind sometimes it makes no sense to be stuck on just one taste of music when theres so many
Title: Re:To All The Linkin Park Haters...
Post by: MANBEARPIG. on April 08, 2004, 10:11:50 PM
i always considered linkin park dope
Title: Re:To All The Linkin Park Haters...
Post by: Don Breezio on April 08, 2004, 10:43:04 PM
luke we NEVER agree but i have to agree with you
my niggas here in my hood would kill me if all of them knew
but only a few do but i like some rock too and i like linkin park  they nice on the mic people should expand there mind sometimes it makes no sense to be stuck on just one taste of music when theres so many

exactly...theres tons of different types out there...why stick to just one? i consider linkin park to be rock when i hear them on the radio...but more than half of their albums is straight up hip hop...real hip hop. and i love it...i could name hundereds of lines like the ones i named before and they would all be killer just like those.
Title: Re:To All The Linkin Park Haters...
Post by: Suga Foot on April 08, 2004, 10:43:29 PM
Linkin park is aight.  Those quotes aren't really anything special tho.
Title: Re:To All The Linkin Park Haters...
Post by: Don Breezio on April 08, 2004, 10:45:13 PM
and just as one more little thing touching on LP being pop...how many pop artists can say they've worked with artists like Motion Man, Chali 2na, Kutmaster Kurt, Black Thought, Aceyalone, Rasco, Planet Asia, Pharoahe Monch, DJ Babu, Jonathon Davis, Aaron Lewis, Jay Gordon....we're talkin the dopest underground acts as well as a few dope rock acts.

EDIT: add the X-Ecutioners to that list too
Title: Re:To All The Linkin Park Haters...
Post by: Suga Foot on April 08, 2004, 10:48:24 PM
woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow
Title: Re:To All The Linkin Park Haters...
Post by: Suffice on April 09, 2004, 12:09:05 AM
i really like LInkin Park. Their lyrics are average, but their sound is great, and i love the work of their DJ. Those quotes, Luke, are from "high voltage" and "dedicated" i believe. They don't have many more hip hop songs. You probably listed the only hip hop shit that they have
Title: Re:To All The Linkin Park Haters...
Post by: Lincoln on April 09, 2004, 10:18:13 AM
I liked the song with Chali 2Na for his verse, but other than that I absolutely hate Linkin Park. One of the guys can't sing at all, he just screams. And just so you know, I have heard them lots of times.
Title: Re:To All The Linkin Park Haters...
Post by: On The Edge of Insanity on April 09, 2004, 04:28:58 PM
"with your lack of skill and versility your killin me/
and a DJ in the group just for credibility/"

Talk about contradicting yourself.

I had their first album and it was complete shit, their were a couple of tight tracks on the remix album, but that was only because of the guest mcs. Didn't like the first single of their second album so haven't checked it, the blonde dudes voice is just way too annoying and the rapper is pretty average.
Title: Re:To All The Linkin Park Haters...
Post by: DeaDSouLjaH on April 09, 2004, 10:03:10 PM
linkin park's good ...and i dont see them as a rock/metal band.. i mean their music is different you know .... well one reason for that is that most of the bang members have a lot of creative control over the music that is being made.. mike shinoda IMO is an amazing emcee which can be very clearly seen from the lines Luke posted ... DJ Hahn is a good DJ and chester bennington IMO is one of the greatest vocalists of our generation .. i know there are a lotta linkin park haters out there saying that they turned pop after their first album .. i beg to differ... lets jus say that their music's evolving you know .. REANIMATION was a masterpiece...  newayz thats all i have to say .. i jus think Linkin Park are really really good .. (which was pretty evident from wat i jus posted.. i'm bored neway) ..
 8)
Title: Re:To All The Linkin Park Haters...
Post by: Don Breezio on April 09, 2004, 10:38:14 PM
i really like LInkin Park. Their lyrics are average, but their sound is great, and i love the work of their DJ. Those quotes, Luke, are from "high voltage" and "dedicated" i believe. They don't have many more hip hop songs. You probably listed the only hip hop shit that they have

those were from "High Voltage", "Step Up", and "It's Goin Down"

and i beg to differ with that last statement...did you read the list of artists they've worked with i posted?
Title: Re:To All The Linkin Park Haters...
Post by: West C. Connected on April 10, 2004, 11:11:14 AM
That DJ is the dopest, he's funny as fuck. ;D








...Plus he's Asian. :-X (*Is going to get insulted again just for saying that)
Title: Re:To All The Linkin Park Haters...
Post by: Don Breezio on April 10, 2004, 11:27:53 AM
"with your lack of skill and versility your killin me/
and a DJ in the group just for credibility/"

Talk about contradicting yourself.

dude like half of linkin parks shit is the work of their dj...if you listen to their stuff theres always scratching or sampling or something in the background...on every album they have atleast 1 track just by him...at every concert they give him like a 5 minute solo...the guy is probably the 2nd best part of the group behind mike shinoda.
Title: Re:To All The Linkin Park Haters...
Post by: Don Jacob on April 10, 2004, 03:11:43 PM
i really didn't like them at first but when i went to see metallica in concert last summer , they opened for them and they were fucking tight....so now, i really like them


and chester CAN sing...you got to be an idiot to say he can't , just listen to numb or live in TX dude has pipes
Title: Re:To All The Linkin Park Haters...
Post by: Don Breezio on April 10, 2004, 03:20:56 PM
i really didn't like them at first but when i went to see metallica in concert last summer , they opened for them and they were fucking tight....so now, i really like them


and chester CAN sing...you got to be an idiot to say he can't , just listen to numb or live in TX dude has pipes

yep...i went to the meteora tour a couple months ago and they were there w/ p.o.d., hoobastank, & story of the year...i always thought chester could sing really well but you don't get even close to as much of an idea till you've seen him do it live...Live In TX is a dope ass cd too...i listen to that more than any of my other LP cds probably.
Title: Re:To All The Linkin Park Haters...
Post by: On The Edge of Insanity on April 11, 2004, 11:07:42 AM
"with your lack of skill and versility your killin me/
and a DJ in the group just for credibility/"

Talk about contradicting yourself.

dude like half of linkin parks shit is the work of their dj...if you listen to their stuff theres always scratching or sampling or something in the background...on every album they have atleast 1 track just by him...at every concert they give him like a 5 minute solo...the guy is probably the 2nd best part of the group behind mike shinoda.

Yeah exactly. The only reason they have a DJ is to try and get some hiphop credibility by having all that stuff in there songs.
Title: Re:To All The Linkin Park Haters...
Post by: chronic01 on April 11, 2004, 12:03:21 PM
i cant stand them because i hate the screaming type of shit. i'd give them a chance but its just not my music because of the screaming and shit
Title: Re:To All The Linkin Park Haters...
Post by: Don Breezio on April 11, 2004, 12:48:04 PM
"with your lack of skill and versility your killin me/
and a DJ in the group just for credibility/"

Talk about contradicting yourself.

dude like half of linkin parks shit is the work of their dj...if you listen to their stuff theres always scratching or sampling or something in the background...on every album they have atleast 1 track just by him...at every concert they give him like a 5 minute solo...the guy is probably the 2nd best part of the group behind mike shinoda.

Yeah exactly. The only reason they have a DJ is to try and get some hiphop credibility by having all that stuff in there songs.

lol you need to listen to more linkin park man...the main reason that (I) consider them partly hip hop is because of mike shinoda
Title: Re:To All The Linkin Park Haters...
Post by: On The Edge of Insanity on April 11, 2004, 03:16:12 PM
Like I said in my first post, I had their first album and it was horrible, One Step Closer was the only decent track on the whole album. Mike Shinoda is ok, but he's just a rapper in a rock group, not the leader of some brilliant rock/hiphop hybrid. The blonde dude who sings is awful, I can't stand his voice at all, and he for me ruins any chance of the group making a consistantly dope album. The DJ is pretty tight, I'm not saying that he isn't, but I feel the whole group is trying to pretend to be something they really aren't to make themselves appeal to a larger audience. They have been very cleverly marketed, which I think gives the perception that they put more thought into their output they most other similar bands. When I hear them talking in interviews they do say some thoughful and cleaver stuff, but when you listen to their actual songs you wonder if its the same people that you heard speaking in the interview.

I only hold them in slightly higher esteem than the group i'm guessing that DJ line was aimed at (Limp Bizkit), and that is not very high at all.
Title: Re:To All The Linkin Park Haters...
Post by: Don Breezio on April 11, 2004, 10:12:32 PM
see if you've only heard their first album then you havent heard any of what i would consider hip hop...mr. hahn didn't have nearly as much to do on their first album as he did on reanimation & meteora...i can gauruntee you'd like reanimation...its nothing but hip hop...all those guests i mentioned earlier...came from that 1 album...those lines i mentioned earlier were all from straight hip hop songs that dropped before hybrid theory (it was from the hybrid theory EP) and also the song w/ the x-ecutioners.

i dont think they have anything to do with marketing...yeah one step closer came out and it blew but they've had fans since long before that (including myself)...i'd say 90% of their fanbase is people who don't give a flying fuck how popular they are or how well marketed they are...its people who enjoy their music straight up...i hate most things that are popular...i'll admit it im a hater. but i love linkin park and unless they start making wack ass tracks and becoming the snoop dogg of rock then i'll still love them until i die.
Title: Re:To All The Linkin Park Haters...
Post by: Don Jacob on April 11, 2004, 10:31:59 PM
Like I said in my first post, I had their first album and it was horrible, One Step Closer was the only decent track on the whole album. Mike Shinoda is ok, but he's just a rapper in a rock group, not the leader of some brilliant rock/hiphop hybrid. The blonde dude who sings is awful, I can't stand his voice at all, and he for me ruins any chance of the group making a consistantly dope album. The DJ is pretty tight, I'm not saying that he isn't, but I feel the whole group is trying to pretend to be something they really aren't to make themselves appeal to a larger audience. They have been very cleverly marketed, which I think gives the perception that they put more thought into their output they most other similar bands. When I hear them talking in interviews they do say some thoughful and cleaver stuff, but when you listen to their actual songs you wonder if its the same people that you heard speaking in the interview.

I only hold them in slightly higher esteem than the group i'm guessing that DJ line was aimed at (Limp Bizkit), and that is not very high at all.


i love how you insist on saying chester can't sing, yet have a picture of Pharoe Monch in your avatar....LMAO dude is an octave away from being biz Marky
Title: Re:To All The Linkin Park Haters...
Post by: On The Edge of Insanity on April 12, 2004, 01:16:31 PM
I don't think Pharoahe is dope cause of his singing voice man, thankfully he doesn't use it too often.

Oh, and I still think Chester can't sing.

And Luke I've heard most of reanimation, I like I said before I'm only really feeling some tracks from that cause of the guest emcees, it doesn't really have anything to do with Linkin Park themselves. I'll admit that I haven't checked their latest album, but the first single sounded like stuff from their first album, so I don't really see the point of following it up, when I could be buying/downloading some dope hiphop with the same money/time.
Title: Re:To All The Linkin Park Haters...
Post by: Don Breezio on April 12, 2004, 07:00:37 PM
i think you're blinded by the amount of units they move  ;)