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Title: E-White Leaving DoggyStyle Records
Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on April 10, 2004, 09:48:32 PM

"by the way...i want out of my contract with doggystyle records.so for them niggas that represent doggystyle records that read this shit...send me my walkin papers asap. no questions,no delays,no explanations, no hard feelings...but let me up out the doggystyle records label now.i dont owe yall no money,so let me go.i been waitin to get loose.

i want out of my contract ASAP.i wanted out a year and a half ago cause i knew the company wasnt tryin to push nothin except snoop projects. they can get mad and say what they must...but i guarantee yall this...every nigga i ever dealt with direct,knows that im a straight up nigga.im loyal, imma worker,i listen and all that....but i aint gon sit up and be no puppett.i dont need a nigga to do nothin more than what he did already...introduce me to the music industry.snoop aint got no love for me and its become obvious.i aint never disrespected that man,so i aint got time to be tryna figure out what pisses him off or what makes him cool.i dont deal with emotions.so whoever that doggystyle snitch is...make sure u tell them what i already told them....let me out of that bullshit contract.

everytime i used to request to severe my ties with doggystyle, snoop would make promises and lie about what he was gon do for me.i dont beg...i work for mine.i understand the outcome of hardwork, thats why work hard without havin to be told.bottomline,shit is hittin the fan and i dont want mutha fuckas actin like E-White got dropped.nope, earlier today i DEMANDED to be let out of the situation...they suppossedly agreed...but lets see how long it takes.send my papers NOW.im tired of ghostwritin', im tired of gettin on mixtapes, im sick of watchin these other labels kick doggystyle in the ass. im a winner.im tired of scoring 30 points in practice but still not gettin no playin time in the game.ive been patient and im sure my career is headed nowhere with this company that only seems to be tryin to outdo THA ROW.for all yall wonderin why im sayin this shit on the internet...its because them mutha fuckas read this shit.dont be fooled thinkin they dont.they read this shit, and plus i already voiced my feelings and my desires to leave the label IMMEDIATELY.i talked with them first, now its time to let the people that matter to me (yALL) know whats up.E-White aint scared yall, and im sure we gon make it quite alright.by the way....there will be absolutely NO diss traccs talkin bout anybody from doggystyle records.i just like to address issues when they're new so that nobody can twist the original facts.even if they start dissin on record...im not bitin' into it.it'll be very obvious that im my own man with my own plan and i will never ACT the way somebody wants me to ACT.im not an actor.last thing...let me give a personal shout to my big homeboy soopafly, and my homegirl ms. latoya williams...i love yall two.i learned alot from them, but that company aint got my best interest at hand.so im out."


www.wcrydaz.com

damn man thats a damn trip so now

DoggyStyle Records Roster

LaToiya Williams
Soopafly
Delano
Snoop Dogg

Who's Next to leave??? I say LaToiya And Soopafly
Title: Re:E-White Leaving DoggyStyle Records
Post by: vegaz on April 10, 2004, 09:56:12 PM
what a waste. all that talent snoop had at his disposal and he didn't do shit with it . at one point he had 2\3 of deathrows old roster!!!! Imagine what it could have been, what it SHOULD have been. damn to say I'm dissapointed is an understatment.
Title: Re:E-White Leaving DoggyStyle Records
Post by: Darksider on April 10, 2004, 10:03:09 PM
thanks for the interesting news
Title: Re:E-White Leaving DoggyStyle Records
Post by: Leroy on April 10, 2004, 10:35:15 PM
Snoops fucking up real bad next will be either Latoya then Soopafly for realz
Title: Re:E-White Leaving DoggyStyle Records
Post by: Jome on April 10, 2004, 10:42:21 PM
1st, Kokane
2nd, Eastsidaz
3rd, E-White.. seems like none of them got good words about Snoop, except Goldie Loc said it was peace.
But that "Hold the West down" track.. could be a Snoop diss though.

E-White seems smarter than Soopafly & Kokane though..
Maybe Daz got a spot open for him.. lol
Title: Re:E-White Leaving DoggyStyle Records
Post by: IKON on April 10, 2004, 11:10:57 PM
damn snoop is doing thangs just like his mentor (Dre ;))

anyways its fucked up how both dre and snoop have had so much talent on their hands but dont know how to release shit from them

sad shit but this is the music industry, its better off he goes with daz cause he pushes his artist more (Lil C Style,RBX and now the Twinz)
Title: Re:E-White Leaving DoggyStyle Records
Post by: vegaz on April 10, 2004, 11:45:04 PM
I think that both snoop and dre are scarred to drop some shit and have it flop, so they just don't drop shit! dre's firm fiascos and snoops no limit adventures still haunt them.
Title: Re:E-White Leaving DoggyStyle Records
Post by: UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over on April 11, 2004, 12:11:13 AM
Snoop doesnt drop anything from his label mates except that allstars album,Dre releases his peoples albums so its all good.Plus Im glad the decision E-White made.
Title: Re:E-White Leaving DoggyStyle Records
Post by: Suffice on April 11, 2004, 12:25:14 AM
hell yeah, i agree with Taz here on that Ewhite made a good decision. IT's obvious snoop was exploiting him (7 Welcome 2 tha Chuuch Mixtapes), and no money! MAybe he'll find a new home with somebody else.
Title: Re:E-White Leaving DoggyStyle Records
Post by: PLANT on April 11, 2004, 12:33:19 AM
I think Snoop is dope as fuck but he still needs guidance and shouldnt be in charge of his own label.  I cant hate on the man, but he really only looks out for himself.
Title: Re:E-White Leaving DoggyStyle Records
Post by: Leroy on April 11, 2004, 12:42:18 AM
to tell u the truth snoop aint DPG mayne or Eastsidaz hes a fucking loser i cant him no more hes the reason why Tray Deee in jail n shit the only real DPG is Daz Dillinger cuzz  he repped it since day 1 same with nate dogg...

i think it should be like this the REAL dogg pound
Daz
Tray Deee
Fred Wreck (as a producer)
Goldie
Nate
Bad Azz
they the only ppl in my eyes who have the right to be real DPG'z

and if im not makeing sense please forgive me im a lil thoed...
Title: Re:E-White Leaving DoggyStyle Records
Post by: D1G1T4L on April 11, 2004, 12:45:45 AM
i dont like e-white at all
first of all the dude has average skills, nothing special
second, everytime i read his interviews or whatever he posts on the forums it sounds ignorant as hell, like how he posted the shit about eminem, its just stupid, he is burning his own bridges

but doggystyle seems to be going downhill, i hope soopafly releases an album at least
Title: Re:E-White Leaving DoggyStyle Records
Post by: vegaz on April 11, 2004, 12:46:29 AM
I always felt like this about snoop bieng a c.e.o., you either gonna be a coach or a player . not every rapper  was born to run thier own lable, hip hop went through a phase where everybody had to be a ceo and everybody had to have thier own lables, then they all flopped . very few can manage bieng a rapper and the president of a lable at the same time it took dre years to get the hang of it. and jay z does it with the help of dame dash. I dont think snoop was prepared for that side of the game.
Title: Re:E-White Leaving DoggyStyle Records
Post by: Leroy on April 11, 2004, 12:48:32 AM
i dont like e-white at all
first of all the dude has average skills, nothing special
second, everytime i read his interviews or whatever he posts on the forums it sounds ignorant as hell, like how he posted the shit about eminem, its just stupid, he is burning his own bridges

but doggystyle seems to be going downhill, i hope soopafly releases an album at least

i feel u he kicks it with Daz too much when hes online lmao naw jk but they do act fucking stupid as hell but as long as they drop tight music thats all im worried about
Title: Re:E-White Leaving DoggyStyle Records
Post by: T-Dogg on April 11, 2004, 01:22:11 AM
I always felt like this about snoop bieng a c.e.o., you either gonna be a coach or a player . not every rapper  was born to run thier own lable, hip hop went through a phase where everybody had to be a ceo and everybody had to have thier own lables, then they all flopped . very few can manage bieng a rapper and the president of a lable at the same time it took dre years to get the hang of it. and jay z does it with the help of dame dash. I dont think snoop was prepared for that side of the game.

On point right there.

I ain't surprised at all. Snoop hasn't exactly been active in supporting his roster of artists. Ain't no wonder people leave - they can't make no money from mixtapes. All this time and Doggystyle hasn't been able to drop any other project than Doggystyle Allstars and Paid Tha Cost. A damn shame.

Hopefully E-White can find a good deal on some other label. He deserves to be out there and have his piece of the pie.
Title: Re:E-White Leaving DoggyStyle Records
Post by: hector on April 11, 2004, 01:34:59 AM
some things you guys don't understand.  Snoop owns a business, doggystyle records.  If he wants to put out an artist then he has to invest in them, financially wise and time wise.  E-white ain't gonna sell shit.  anyone who thinks otherwise is a moron.  ain't no westcoast artists sellin these days besides snoop, dre, and xzibit.  Snoop ain't gonna be makin nothin off a ewhite album dropping and neither is anyone else involved in the label.  People on this forum, other forums, and even ewhite himself, are acting like snoop is stupid and being fucked up.  If you were rich and someone came up to you asking you for at least a million dollars, to fund a startup business of theirs, which you obviously know would fail, would you fund that business?  Anyone who is smart wouldn't.  Plus peeps gotta understand, its business, don't take that shit personal.  Ya can't mix personal and business, 98% of the time shit won't work out.  but then you might say, well snoop is already rich as fuck, what is it really gonna matter to him if he don't make any money off the shit, to help out his homie and get a record out?  Well, that is one of the many reasons I consider snoop a sellout.  though I can't blame him, cuase like I said, ain't no way ewhite is gonna sell.  I wouldn't invest in ewhite either.
Title: Re:E-White Leaving DoggyStyle Records
Post by: Don Seer on April 11, 2004, 01:54:58 AM
hes a fucking loser i cant him no more hes the reason why Tray Deee in jail

and if im not makeing sense please forgive me im a lil thoed...

snoop is the reason tray deee's in a jail? mmm ok?..

what proof you got there sunshine?
Title: Re:E-White Leaving DoggyStyle Records
Post by: T-Dogg on April 11, 2004, 01:55:29 AM
Man, it don't matter where you're from. If you made a good and the right kind of product and marketed it real good, it would sell. Although you really can't wait E-White to drop anything else but some gangsta shit, and you know that ain't gonna sell.

That's what's the most fucked up thing in the industry right now. Hip-Hop should be all about keepin' it real. The West does that - they do exactly what they do best, be it gangsta shit or g-funk or anything else an artist might do - but the mainstream don't want that. They want poppy shit, and the West won't deliver.
Title: Re:E-White Leaving DoggyStyle Records
Post by: Don Seer on April 11, 2004, 01:56:22 AM
i'm kinda disappointed that all e-white seems to do is diss people on the wcrydaz forum.. sad huh? this comes from a post dissing 'game'
Title: Re:E-White Leaving DoggyStyle Records
Post by: CRAFTY on April 11, 2004, 02:08:41 AM
This doesn't surprise me at all...I hope he finds himself a good deal.
Title: Re:E-White Leaving DoggyStyle Records
Post by: hector on April 11, 2004, 02:12:22 AM
i'm kinda disappointed that all e-white seems to do is diss people on the wcrydaz forum.. sad huh? this comes from a post dissing 'game'

yeah ewhite is lame.  he come on fuckin rap forums talking this shit.  handle your business dude, what the fuck is complaining about it on the internet gonna do?  Ain't none of the internet posters gonna do anything for him (except for the hardcore dpg dickryders who would suck his dick if given the opportunity.)

I can understand why Kokane and Tray Deee are pissed.  Kokane has appeared on so many songs with snoop, and basically did half of last meal.  and tray deee put out 2 albums as part of a group.  E-white?  what the fuck has he done?  if it weren't for snoop, ain't nobody even knowing who the fuck ewhite is.  Guarantee if E-white just came out on his own, with no dpg affiliation at all, 90% of the E-white fans on here wouldn't be a fan of him.  You guys wouldn't even give him a chance.  And shit, LOL at him talkin bout leaving doggystyle.  where the fuck is he gonna go?  ain't no other major label gonna sign him.  He will probably end up at dpg records.
Title: Re:E-White Leaving DoggyStyle Records
Post by: Don Seer on April 11, 2004, 02:21:38 AM
well we dunno if tray deee or goldie had solo deals or not, assume not.

e-white would be better off doing what soopafly did, put out an underground album with daz and keep the dogghouse connection.. seems too late for that now though..
Title: Re:E-White Leaving DoggyStyle Records
Post by: hector on April 11, 2004, 02:29:24 AM
well we dunno if tray deee or goldie had solo deals or not, assume not.

e-white would be better off doing what soopafly did, put out an underground album with daz and keep the dogghouse connection.. seems too late for that now though..

naw tray deee was mad cause he felt he didn't get paid enuff for tha eastsidaz albums.  he said he got paid 100 gz and a chain.  if this is true, I agree, he should have been paid more, and I would be pissed too.
Title: Re:E-White Leaving DoggyStyle Records
Post by: Don Seer on April 11, 2004, 02:30:44 AM
thing is... you say he should have.. but without seeing the books ya can't really know can you? what if there wasn't that much money to go round? what if tray deee was just shit talkin?
Title: Re:E-White Leaving DoggyStyle Records
Post by: D1G1T4L on April 11, 2004, 02:31:33 AM
i'm kinda disappointed that all e-white seems to do is diss people on the wcrydaz forum.. sad huh? this comes from a post dissing 'game'
Title: Re:E-White Leaving DoggyStyle Records
Post by: hector on April 11, 2004, 02:37:42 AM
thing is... you say he should have.. but without seeing the books ya can't really know can you? what if there wasn't that much money to go round? what if tray deee was just shit talkin?

doesn't matter how much money was to go around.  again, this is a business.  Tray Deee put in hella work, he did 2 full albums as part of the group, and the first one went platinum, and the second gold,(I think).  its snoop's business and he decided to put the albums out.  Tray deee is his employee, and he did his work, he needs to get paid for it no matter what.  If you work for your boss, but his business didn't make any money for the month, would you be happy that even though u did the same amount of work as all other months, but got paid less this month, cause your boss didn't make enuff money?  Now I'm sure there was contracts involved, and I'm sure Tray Deee being a eager artists wanting to make it big, just signed whatever, and like pretty much every westcoast rapper, got screwed in the contract.  So in retrospect, I'm sure that tray deee got what he deserved contract wise.  but most decent human beings would probably pay him better because he put in a lot of work and deserves a lil more pay for what he did.  That is why he is mad imo.
Title: Re:E-White Leaving DoggyStyle Records
Post by: Don Seer on April 11, 2004, 02:41:09 AM
you dont make sense.

so tray deee should get more money, because he thinks he deserves. regardless of whether the albums actually brought in enough to cover his, snoops and goldies shares, plus expenses..
Title: Re:E-White Leaving DoggyStyle Records
Post by: hector on April 11, 2004, 02:57:54 AM
say you are an employee at a gas station.  You worked for 200 hours for the month.  yet after paying the bills for rent, electricity, advertising, cost of goods sold, etc, the business ended up not making any  profit for the month, but actualy had a loss.  so then the boss says to the employee "well, we never made any profit this month, so I am only going to pay you for 100 hours."  You can't do this, the boss has to pay the employee for the full amount of work that they did.

in this case, snoop dogg is the gas station owner, and tray deee is the employee.  total album sales for both albums combined is well over 1 million.  so lets just say that after paying all expenses the profit that they got was $1 per album sold (this is low, I am sure they made more than that)  so that is a million dollars profit.  split that 3 ways, that is $333,333 each.  tray deee claims he only got 100 gz.  and like I said, my figures are low.  If tray deee really only got paid 100 gz for both albums, how can you not say he got screwed?
Title: Re:E-White Leaving DoggyStyle Records
Post by: Don Seer on April 11, 2004, 03:19:13 AM
tray deee doesn't get paid by the hour ;)
Title: Re:E-White Leaving DoggyStyle Records
Post by: Rag_J on April 11, 2004, 07:08:52 AM
I feel what you're saying Hector Dragoncox, but remember, The eastsidaz albums was released under TVT Records and they was probably, not that I know the contract details for the ES albums, but like other record labels, who have a sub-label(Doggystyle Records in this case) would take a lot of the income from the sub-label. It's natural. They're in charge of the distribution and has a lot of employees THEY got to feed too. Now, if Doggystyle had released the album all by themselves, 100 % independently, 100 Gz, wouldn't be nothing(if they did sell the same amount that is). Imagine, if they sold 1'200'000 copies of they albums they would probably sit with around 10-15 millions in profit and THEN it woulda been weird. But Steve Gottlieb over at TVT is not exactly known for offering his artists good deals on their behalf, he's, as everyone else, interested in making as much $$ as possible.

But of course Snoop got payed more, he was the headliner and responsible for the musical part of the project.
Title: Re:E-White Leaving DoggyStyle Records
Post by: Don Rizzle on April 11, 2004, 07:29:14 AM
well we dunno if tray deee or goldie had solo deals or not, assume not.

e-white would be better off doing what soopafly did, put out an underground album with daz and keep the dogghouse connection.. seems too late for that now though..
yea but soopafly got no money for that he said he gave it to daz, plus soopafly is a producer too so u know hes getting paid
Title: Re:E-White Leaving DoggyStyle Records
Post by: smerlus on April 11, 2004, 08:01:11 AM
tray deee doesn't get paid by the hour ;)

he's got a point....artists don't get a salary they get a percentage, so the less they sell the less they make... although $100,000 for 1,500,000 cd's sold around $15 a piece does sound a little fishy
Title: Re:E-White Leaving DoggyStyle Records
Post by: Z the laidback Virus on April 11, 2004, 09:13:46 AM
If you ask me,Snoop should never have signed E-White....or other unpushable artists for that matter. He should be just cool with them and work with them like he does with the artists on for example DPG Records. In fact,DPG Records seems like a good place for all of them.It might be independent and small-scale but at least Daz puts out albums. But hadn't E-White signed with Daz allready?

I hope the two are still cool together,wich could be the case of course.
Title: Re:E-White Leaving DoggyStyle Records
Post by: eNgIeS on April 11, 2004, 09:31:25 AM
Bottom line Snoop is an overrated business man. He focus's on himself way too much, sits back waits for phone calls from MTV for him to do a show, or for a business partner making Snoop clothing line, or for a Cadillac Snoop De ville & all these promotional things that make him alot of money, but its not like he puttin in the work he just sits back & waits for the call.

& then he just totally forgets that he owns Doggystyle Records & has artists to produce & feed.

Snoop is not a compitant business owner IMO, he is just a face MTV Caddilac & which other companys to help make money
Title: Re:E-White Leaving DoggyStyle Records
Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on April 11, 2004, 09:54:32 AM
Snoop Is a Fool for this he had all the mutherfucking chances to promote his artists...like the homie P Scrilla said he needs someone's to help him with his artists,Now all he does is promoting himself and Im sure that He Will use the 213 album to create a Buzz for Snoopafly. DoggyStyle are with Geffen if im not mistaking so there could have been alot of promotions moves like , Including Soopafly or anyone else on Some Geffen Artists shit (Like Avant & Mary J blige) Its seems like Only LaToiya is doing her thing by doing hooks for Talib Kweli, Jay Z and Anthony Hamilton ...even that is not enough to make her blow up....If Snoop Dogg is really Smart  he will release another single for 213 with LaToiya or someone else on the hook, thats good promotion (remember why Baby If You're Ready was such a Hit) plus he needs someone's to make him realize that he makes bad choices..if he keeps acting like this only Him and Delano will be the DoggyStyle Artist

Oh and Since Im Sure Snoop Dogg will Read This

STOP BEING SELFISH AND PUT SOME GOOD MUSIC OUT TRY TO RELEASE THE RIGHT SINGLE AND TRY TO PUSH UR ARTISTS LIKE YOUR PUSHING YOURSELF, RELEASE THAT MUTHAFUCKING 213 AND ATLEAST LET WARREN G PRODUCE ON IT CUZ WE ALL KNOW RAPPING IS NOT HIS BEST SHIT , AND MAN PUSH LATOIYA WILLIAMS CUZ SHE FUCKING TALENTED SHE WILL SAVE YOUR LABEL (PLEEZBALEEVIT) ALSO SOOPAFLY MAN THE GUY IS WAITING SINCE 94 PUT IS SHIT OUT MAN WHO KNOWS THERE COULD BE A HIT MAN SINCE HE'S FUNKY AND WEIRD HE COULD BE ON TOP....GET UR SHIT RIGHT SNOOPY
Title: Re:E-White Leaving DoggyStyle Records
Post by: hector on April 11, 2004, 11:45:18 AM
tray deee doesn't get paid by the hour ;)

no kidding.  thats why I posted what is called an analogy.  either way I can't see how you think $100,000 pay for the 2 eastsidaz albums is fair.
Title: Re:E-White Leaving DoggyStyle Records
Post by: Don Seer on April 11, 2004, 11:59:17 AM
100,000 for what... a months work?

shows + appearances bring the real money in..
Title: Re:E-White Leaving DoggyStyle Records
Post by: vegaz on April 11, 2004, 01:03:51 PM
preach overseer,preach. artists hardley ever make any real chips from thier album. they rely on shows guest appearances etc. the money for the eastsidaz album had to get split up 3 ways  and as much as WE love the eastsidaz those albums did'nt push THAT many units. and actually 1 dollar per album sold is'nt that bad for a non independant release. no one takes into account who's responsible for paying some of the guest producers for thier work and the  guest artists on the record(duces and treys escpecially). all this makes a difference in the end as far as how much an artist recieves(or in tray dees case, doesnt recieve).
Title: Re:E-White Leaving DoggyStyle Records
Post by: Diabolical on April 11, 2004, 02:03:55 PM
Snoop aint no fool, sure he's a bitch but he isnt stupid.
Title: Re:E-White Leaving DoggyStyle Records
Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on April 11, 2004, 02:22:26 PM
Snoop aint no fool, sure he's a bitch but he isnt stupid.


how come DoggyStyle aint known like Cash Money Or Roc-A-Fella , how come there is only one platinum plaques on DoggyStyle when there could have been more than that..(dont count the snoops solo's) how come we dont see Snoops artists on mixtapes other than welcome to the chuuch , how come its been 4 years since the last release by an doggystyle artist/group when there is some good talents out there that wanna drop sum shit , how come Snoop is  always promoting Himself when his artists are waiting to shine...How come Snoop wanna use Neptunes when he got a great Production team ....Why The fuck he didnt sign Bad Azz and try to Push him , this dude is the futur of the West Coast....Why The fuck is he doing Pimp bullshit songs ....why the Fuck we dont hear no good collabo between DoggyStyle and Other crew...why the fuck he has to claim CRIp in every song....Why the Fuck he Didnt Keep Cola of Tha Angels as a solo artist

I could go on and on and on ...Snoop is a fool selfish muthafucka..dont get me wrong Im a big snoop fan but he needs to realize that he's a wack CEO and im tired of him putting out wack music and not letting his artists shine
Title: Re:E-White Leaving DoggyStyle Records
Post by: Bomb-AŽ on April 11, 2004, 10:38:47 PM
damn snoop is doing thangs just like his mentor (Dre ;))

the difference is who dre does keep long enuf to drop an album goes xPlatinum.



peace

Title: Re:E-White Leaving DoggyStyle Records
Post by: dexter on April 12, 2004, 09:12:51 AM
Overseer is right1  Artist DONT MAKE MONEY$$$ ON CDS!!!
tHEY MAKE $$$$$$$$$$$$ on tours!!!!!!!!!!!!!!