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Title: Would you call it racism?
Post by: R-Tistic on May 08, 2004, 04:34:51 AM
Tonite, me and my homeboys went to The Boogie, which is an 18+ club in Anaheim for those that don't know. I hadn't been since last summer, but I heard that there have been a few fights and I think it was a shooting since then. It seems like most of the incidents happen between blacks and mexicans. The security is usually always trippin on us both for that reason, if not more reasons. So tonite, we had to park valet, and when we were drivin in, the cops/flashlights stopped us and told us they had to search the car. I was like "I am not tryin to be hard headed or anything, but isn't it illegal for you to search my car with no warrant?" he was like "well if you don't want us to search it, we won't, but you won't get in" and I was like man fuggit, I drove 35 min. to Anaheim and I definitely don't have any alcohol or drugs or anything illegal, so they can go ahead. It was me and three homeboys, all black, in a 98 corolla, we didn't look suspicious but I figured they searched everybody. I was still kinda mad....but this is what pissed me off. I saw about seven cars drive in right after me, all whites....not a siiiiiiiingle one of them was searched or asked to get out the car. This pissed me off a lot, seein these cars drive by and the cops obviously targeted us, even though I know we didn't even look like gang bangers. Even worst, when I got inside, I talked to three different groups of blacks who said they were all searched as well, while they saw whites and asians drive straight through.

But even though it was racist to me, I still thought about it....true, it's horrible that I have to suffer because of the blacks that do act up. But damn...I've been to all types of parties and clubs, and most of the times, blacks are the ones who act up. I have seen whites get wild when they are drunk, but the shootings, big fights, people yellin loud and ignorant, etc. etc. is usually the blacks. Now it's too much to get into where the source of this problem comes from, but do you think that situations like these are handled right? I don't trip on them searchin the cars because I definitely don't wanna get shot, but even if the whites usually aren't the ones shootin the clubs up, it's still unfair to just target blacks and mexicans specifially. How do you feel about that?
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: 7even on May 08, 2004, 04:53:20 AM
well, let's just go by statistics. ( make them up cause Im not informed that good but youll get the idea anyway)

13% of the american population is black
70% is white

even though, blacks commit by far more crimes than whites do.
according to that, the police has better odds to get someone who brakes the law controlling blacks than they had if they controlled blacks and whites.

it would definitly be racism if blacks wont be more likely to start up shit, that's definit. but since it unfortunately aint like that, I wont consider it racism but going after the ppl who are more suspicious. and blacks are in general more likely to do start up shit than whites by statistics, you cant say that aint the case.
so, I wont consider it racism. of course it's fucked up that whites with 2 pounds of weed can pass through like it aint nothin and sober blacks like you cant, but you have to blame that on your own kind too.
btw, I always thought it's ironic when rappers rap 2 verses in a song, one about how cool crimes they commit and how violent they are, and one about how racist the police is. you know what I mean?
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: hector on May 08, 2004, 09:49:33 AM
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I have seen whites get wild when they are drunk, but the shootings, big fights, people yellin loud and ignorant, etc. etc. is usually the blacks.

well there you go.  I wouldn't neccesarily call it racsim, more of a stereotype.

Put it this way:  If 9 out of the last 10 disturbances at the club were caused by black people, and you were the club owner telling the cops what to do, would you keep an eye on the black people or the white people?  Its an obvious answer.

same goes with terrorists and airplanes.  People say its racist when muslim people get searched and profiled- duh!  thats cause there hasn't been a white person who took over an airplane and crashed it into a building.
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: Kill on May 08, 2004, 11:08:44 AM
It's prejudiced acting, but as you all said, due to my experience it's actually kind of reasonable. But IMO they should at least sporadically search whites, so they can't just rely on not bein searched and sneak everything from weed to heaters in the club. And they should not act like they're workin on the principle of you bringin sum illegal shit just cause ure black
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: SGV on May 08, 2004, 12:40:11 PM
Fuck that. You should've just told them they couldn't search the car and go park somewhere else. They had no right searching your car. If you guys didn't do anything, they were just profiling. Damn right it's racist. Fuck them.

Did you ask why they weren't searching others?
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: JTSimon on May 08, 2004, 12:52:22 PM
Its called racial profiling.

Live with it.
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: R-Tistic on May 08, 2004, 12:58:27 PM
Fuck that. You should've just told them they couldn't search the car and go park somewhere else. They had no right searching your car. If you guys didn't do anything, they were just profiling. Damn right it's racist. Fuck them.

Did you ask why they weren't searching others?

It was nowhere to park out there, only the valet and out there they tow like a mafugga. Yeah they were profiling....I didn't see that they weren't searchin anybody else until I was in line, and I was just talkin real loud about em and some of the security heard me but they didn't say anything.
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: SGV on May 08, 2004, 01:00:30 PM

It was nowhere to park out there, only the valet and out there they tow like a mafugga. Yeah they were profiling....I didn't see that they weren't searchin anybody else until I was in line, and I was just talkin real loud about em and some of the security heard me but they didn't say anything.
I never been to the Boogie, heard it's a lot of Cholos there. Not my scene. But, if that was the case I would've turned around. Hop on the 91 and go to La Mirage in Artesia.
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: R-Tistic on May 08, 2004, 01:01:59 PM
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I have seen whites get wild when they are drunk, but the shootings, big fights, people yellin loud and ignorant, etc. etc. is usually the blacks.

well there you go.  I wouldn't neccesarily call it racsim, more of a stereotype.

Put it this way:  If 9 out of the last 10 disturbances at the club were caused by black people, and you were the club owner telling the cops what to do, would you keep an eye on the black people or the white people?  Its an obvious answer.

same goes with terrorists and airplanes.  People say its racist when muslim people get searched and profiled- duh!  thats cause there hasn't been a white person who took over an airplane and crashed it into a building.

I see what you are sayin. But at the same time, it is pretty obvious to see which black dudes are gonna do what. The crowd I kick it with and the cars we drive look like dudes who aren't squares, but definitely not gangbangers. I can understand them targetin those who are obviously gangbangers....if it was a all black 82 monte carlo with a loud soundsystem, and it was four dudes with corn rows or bald heads, with white tees and blue hats, and they were smokin when they drove in, then yeah those are the ones who'll start somethin. It is the same with the whites. You can tell a punk rocker or a biker from a square azz weenie who wouldn't fight if his life depended on it. Even though we don't look like the soft hollywood pretty boys, we definitely don't look like gangbangers.
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: Trauma-san on May 08, 2004, 01:11:54 PM
Its called racial profiling.

Live with it.

One of the downsides to being the member of a race that acts up more than others.  

I'm a male, and as such couldn't get into clubs until I was 21, even though the women were able to get in at 18.  That's not sexist, it's just that young men are more apt to act out and fuck things up for everybody.  

etc. etc. life ain't fair.  I'm sure if a bunch of white guys rolled up in a car that looked suspicious, it'd get searched too (not that yours looked suspicious).  I'll bet they didn't search all the black cars, either.  
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: SGV on May 08, 2004, 01:15:52 PM
Homie, all Minorities look like gang bangers to Cops. It's like this one time I was in Pasadena. Me, my brother and 3 homies. Not one of us look like a cholo. We were in a 99 Civic, not exactly a Cholo-type of car. Cops harrassed us saying we were suspected for attempting to steal cars. That wasn't some justified shit, because we were in my brothers car. He showed them registration and everything. Muthafuckas just wanted to stress us.

Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: Kalashnikov on May 08, 2004, 01:16:07 PM
jus live with it. maybe the guys were from the south, or their parents/grandparents are from there. cuz those people have it in their blood to be racist man.
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: hector on May 08, 2004, 01:20:16 PM
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I have seen whites get wild when they are drunk, but the shootings, big fights, people yellin loud and ignorant, etc. etc. is usually the blacks.

well there you go.  I wouldn't neccesarily call it racsim, more of a stereotype.

Put it this way:  If 9 out of the last 10 disturbances at the club were caused by black people, and you were the club owner telling the cops what to do, would you keep an eye on the black people or the white people?  Its an obvious answer.

same goes with terrorists and airplanes.  People say its racist when muslim people get searched and profiled- duh!  thats cause there hasn't been a white person who took over an airplane and crashed it into a building.

I see what you are sayin. But at the same time, it is pretty obvious to see which black dudes are gonna do what. The crowd I kick it with and the cars we drive look like dudes who aren't squares, but definitely not gangbangers. I can understand them targetin those who are obviously gangbangers....if it was a all black 82 monte carlo with a loud soundsystem, and it was four dudes with corn rows or bald heads, with white tees and blue hats, and they were smokin when they drove in, then yeah those are the ones who'll start somethin. It is the same with the whites. You can tell a punk rocker or a biker from a square azz weenie who wouldn't fight if his life depended on it. Even though we don't look like the soft hollywood pretty boys, we definitely don't look like gangbangers.

yeah I know what your sayin.  I'm a white male, so I really have never been racially stereotyped, so I really don't know what its like.  but I realize that it happens, and I don't think its fair.    Thats just how our society works, and as long as there is different races, there is gonna be racism.  Especially when you got cops involved.  You know, what you should have done, is said fuck that, not let them search your car, and not even go there.  You just supported a place that racially targeted you.  The biggest way you can make changes is with your money.  
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: SGV on May 08, 2004, 01:51:34 PM
You just supported a place that racially targeted you.  The biggest way you can make changes is with your money.  

Yup. If you would've turned away, that would've been 4 people they lost at the entrance. And, I'm sure, if you got the word out, a lot more people wouldn't go to that spot.
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: R-Tistic on May 08, 2004, 02:14:00 PM
Homie, all Minorities look like gang bangers to Cops. It's like this one time I was in Pasadena. Me, my brother and 3 homies. Not one of us look like a cholo. We were in a 99 Civic, not exactly a Cholo-type of car. Cops harrassed us saying we were suspected for attempting to steal cars. That wasn't some justified shit, because we were in my brothers car. He showed them registration and everything. Muthafuckas just wanted to stress us.

I don't think so.....it's more like, they will treat us all like gangbangers but cops can definitely tell who looks like they bang. Most cops know a lot more than I would ever think they would about gangs, hoods, drugs, hot spots, prostitution rinks, and all else. The black cops definitely know who looks like they bang and who doesn't. I don't get harassed too much by cops because I don't have a G-Ride, which are those old cars that most gangbangers drive, and I don't have a luxury car or anything nice that they will mess with me for. But they definitely know what gangbangers look like...they just enjoy treatin us all the same.
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: R-Tistic on May 08, 2004, 02:16:22 PM
You just supported a place that racially targeted you.  The biggest way you can make changes is with your money.  

Yup. If you would've turned away, that would've been 4 people they lost at the entrance. And, I'm sure, if you got the word out, a lot more people wouldn't go to that spot.

I kind of agree with y'all. Too bad it's 2004 instead of 1964. Blacks nowadays who are my age aren't with the protests and all of that. If I tell some blacks about how they profile, they'll be like "thats shady, fuck them....but it be females there!" and they won't even care. One reason I do go there is because it usually is safe, I know it's much safer than house parties and it's usually not much gang activity there, so I would rather get harassed by cops than get shot u know.
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: JTSimon on May 08, 2004, 02:17:07 PM
lol what about Customs/Border Agents that stare down Mexican Americans as they come back to America.

 ;D They wouldn't let my friend cross because he didn't have ID and I skipped in no questions asked  ;D * keep in mind this was before 9/11 otherwise my ass would have be naked in a room  :D




lol were the cops working for the club? Probably not.
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: JTSimon on May 08, 2004, 02:21:01 PM
ive encountered a similar experience of racial profiling.. iwas just drivin around, cop pulls me over, first thing he asks me is "are you probation or parole" , and i hesitantly say No. (Ironically, i was just arrested 2 days earlier, but since i havent gon thru the court shit,so  i wasnt technically on probation yet.) but yeah, he takes my license and registration and all tha tshit, goes back tohis car, does all the computer check ups and shit.. and then comes back to my car and tells me that one of my license plate lights were out.. i was like WTF. how the fuck does a light out mean that i would be on parole or probation. it wasnt like i was tryin to black out my plates or nothin, the other light was still workin .. .. but yeah luckily nothin happened, cos i had kief on me, and that woulda sent me to jail.

Maybe you were in crack town.
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: Don Jacob on May 08, 2004, 02:38:12 PM
i've been pulled over god knows how many times...you get mad  but you get over it, as long as you ain't doin nothing wrong or are in a hurry to get somewhere i ain't worried to much.
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: SGV on May 08, 2004, 04:42:39 PM
RTistic: I hear you. Most young peeps don't give a fuck. Sad, but true.

I remember one time me and my boys were rollin' in a bucket. It was like 3am, we were going back to a kick back at my boys pad. The cops started following us. We knew they'd pull us over. We were trippin' because we had chains and shit in the car, plus most of us were drunk. My boy was bleeding from his head(and no, we didn't get into a fight and weren't looking for a fight). Of course, the cop pulls us over. First thing out his mouth, "anyone on probation?" He takes my homie's license and stuff(he's on probation), and then he comes back. So, we ask why were pulled over.

"Well uh...I um uh...Pulled you over because you had a cross on your rear view mirror. And plus, we got a call at a station from a lady looking for her son."

Wtf? This muthafucka gave us the wackest excuse I ever heard. He let us go, but what a fuckin' waste of time. He couldn't see the cross until he walked up, it was fuckin' dark. That's why I have no respect for the Po. Always fuckin' with someone for no reason.
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: 7even on May 08, 2004, 05:44:11 PM
some news... Im 18, white, blue-eyed, - and I was checked by cops 4 times in the last 2 months. and I wasnt even in a car 3 of those 4 times.
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: Mikie on May 08, 2004, 07:52:34 PM
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Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: SGV on May 09, 2004, 01:48:10 AM
Some news...You don't live in the states. Shut the fuck up. This thread ain't for you.
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: Leggy Hendrix on May 09, 2004, 03:27:54 AM
Some news...You don't live in the states. Shut the fuck up. This thread ain't for you.

lmao...cos what you guys are talking about only happens in america...
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: The Watcher on May 09, 2004, 04:03:12 AM
if there had been alot of fights been blacks & mexicans lately, then i wouldnt say its racist @ all. they just wanna keep the trouble to a minimum, hence the protective measures they're takin
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on May 10, 2004, 12:41:36 AM
If pork was illegal, would they check Jews and Muslims for pork?
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: ARYC on May 10, 2004, 05:57:26 AM
"jus live with it. maybe the guys were from the south, or their parents/grandparents are from there. cuz those people have it in their blood to be racist man."

isn't that prejudiced/racist ?
or does racism only happen when white ppl say ignorant things about other races?

Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: 7even on May 10, 2004, 06:03:33 AM
"jus live with it. maybe the guys were from the south, or their parents/grandparents are from there. cuz those people have it in their blood to be racist man."

isn't that prejudiced/racist ?
or does racism only happen when white ppl say ignorant things about other races?


lol why trying to stay calm ? :D

of course it is, but then again, it's Jamal, therefore... just ignore it.
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: I-Yoof on May 10, 2004, 09:00:04 AM
I'm a young white male and I get searched every other week. Stop going on about racial prejudice you boring cunt.  
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: SGV on May 10, 2004, 11:17:20 AM
You're also from another country, so you're not valid in this convo.


Fuck living with it. We shouldn't have to "live" with being profiled. All minorities are profiled at one time or another, it's nothing fun.
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: bez on May 10, 2004, 12:03:20 PM
No racism involved.  If you saud yourself that there have been some fights and shooting involved in the area lately involving black kids then they have a right to search you.  Come on man, 3 youngstas ridin in a car is bad enough but when there has been shootings and shit involving black kids your in for it.  They are just doing there job.  I am sure if it was white kids, loads wudda been stopped that nite.  

As you said, you spoke to some blacks when you got to the club and they said themselves that they had also been stopped.  All it means is that the Police are trying to prevent anymore trouble from happening in the club, therefore trying to prevent killing and save lifes, maybe even your own.  Just be appreciative man.  What if they pulled over a car full of 3 black kids after you and found guns on em all??????  That cudda possibly saved a life.

TO yourselves your normal but to police and others you could easily be carrying a weapon.
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: SGV on May 10, 2004, 12:31:59 PM
So, by your way of thinking, only Muslims should be searched at Airports right? Non-Muslims should not be searched because they didn't commit the 9/11 acts.
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: Leggy Hendrix on May 10, 2004, 12:41:08 PM
You're also from another country, so you're not valid in this convo.

i still dont really understand why you have it in your head that racial profiling only occurs in your country...thats probably the most ridiculous statement i have seen on this board... ::)
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: SGV on May 10, 2004, 01:04:58 PM
Notice, I say THIS CONVO. This is about a situation that happened in the states. A simple, yes or no would be coo. But, "I was stopped by the cops to" by someone who's not from the states means nothing in this thread.
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: hector on May 10, 2004, 01:47:20 PM
So, by your way of thinking, only Muslims should be searched at Airports right? Non-Muslims should not be searched because they didn't commit the 9/11 acts.

In a sense, yes, I agree.  There is only a certain amount of time and money that can be used for preventing terrorrist acts, violent shooting acts, DUI's, etc.
If in an airport, every single person was stripped down and searched, it would be a huge annoyance, and very time consuming.  Imagine how long it would take to board a plane.

If everyone got their cars searched goin into the club it would take way too long, and people would get annoyed and leave.

Imagine how long DUI checkpoints would take, if they actually tested every car.

In a perfect world, everything would be fair.  but its not a perfect world, and everything isn't fair.  So we have to figure out the best way to do it.

It ain't like we just said, aight lets only target muslims when boarding airplanes, because they could be terrorists.  FIRST  muslim terrorists hi-jacked our planes and crashed them.  then we profiled them.  If it were blacks who crashed the planes, then blacks would be profiled.  same goes for asians, mexicans, indians, etc.  Whites?  Probably not.  And again, that is just life.

Life isn't fair, but it isn't fair for everybody, and that is what makes it fair.

I'm curious, what you guys who think is a better idea at solving this nightclub situation?  and would your feelings change if last weekend your best friend had been shot at the same place by a black gang member?
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: SGV on May 10, 2004, 02:00:35 PM
Ok, say they just start searching Muslims and a white guy Hi-Jacks a plane. You know how dumb they'd look? "Well, we decided that profiling is the best way to stop Terrorists, this one just slipped through the cracks."

 ::)


That's bullshit. About the senario you give. Let's flip it like I did. What if a Latino gang member shot up the place. What was the purpose of profiling one group, when another group or groups can commit the same crime?
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: Trauma-san on May 10, 2004, 02:05:16 PM
Hell, I'm stereotyped, too.  I don't see what the problem is.  

The other day I was in Belks, and all the black guys were just walking straight through, but the women kept trying to get me to buy perfume for my girlfriend.  I dunno if she assumed I had a girlfriend because I'm so fucking handsome, or if she thought since I was white, I had more money, but I don't appreciate that shit!!!!

Also, Lots of times, I go in stores, and when all the black people walk outside, the white guys behind the counter just give me free shit.  I try to pay for it, but as long as no minorities are watching, they just give it to me because I'm white.  That's not fair!  

I was at a club last week, and they were searching all the minorities at the door.  Well, the chick searching everybody was really, really hot!  SINCE I WAS WHITE, though, she wouldn't even put her hands on me.  


We gotta stop the madness.  
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: 7even on May 10, 2004, 03:30:22 PM
grundy and trauma are kinda on point.

one thing's shocking me though, trauma, you get free stuff in stores cause you white? WTF? LOL!!
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: Corona Man on May 10, 2004, 04:31:12 PM
fuck dat rasist ass shit ese we gotta stand up 2 dem culeros espesialy da eses
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: hector on May 10, 2004, 05:30:17 PM
Ok, say they just start searching Muslims and a white guy Hi-Jacks a plane. You know how dumb they'd look? "Well, we decided that profiling is the best way to stop Terrorists, this one just slipped through the cracks."

 ::)


That's bullshit. About the senario you give. Let's flip it like I did. What if a Latino gang member shot up the place. What was the purpose of profiling one group, when another group or groups can commit the same crime?

of course any person of any race can commit any crime.  Like I said, we don't live in a perfect world.  compromises have to be made.  Police can't search everybody, they have to make a compromise.  They can only search a certain percent.  This doesn't mean that white people don't get searched by the police.  I have been searched before, I'm white.  All it means is that, while at the airport, you are more likely to be searched by the police if you are muslim, than if you are white.  at a club where blacks have been starting shit, then blacks are more likely to be searched than whites.

The same shit happens to white people, especially in different countries.  before I said that I had never been racially profiled, but I was only thinking about here in usa.  Everytime I have gone to mexico, I have been racially profiled.  The federallies always profile white people in mexico.

There is always going to be profiling, as long as people are different.  If its not race, its gonna be something else.
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: Jome on May 10, 2004, 06:45:03 PM
of course any person of any race can commit any crime.  Like I said, we don't live in a perfect world.  compromises have to be made.  Police can't search everybody, they have to make a compromise.  They can only search a certain percent.  This doesn't mean that white people don't get searched by the police.  I have been searched before, I'm white.  All it means is that, while at the airport, you are more likely to be searched by the police if you are muslim, than if you are white.  at a club where blacks have been starting shit, then blacks are more likely to be searched than whites.

The same shit happens to white people, especially in different countries.  before I said that I had never been racially profiled, but I was only thinking about here in usa.  Everytime I have gone to mexico, I have been racially profiled.  The federallies always profile white people in mexico.

There is always going to be profiling, as long as people are different.  If its not race, its gonna be something else.

Yup..
If the police is looking for a serial killer, who do you think they're gonna target.. ??
Yup, you guessed it.

Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: SGV on May 10, 2004, 07:40:43 PM
I know the thing about Mexico is bullshit. They fuck with Americans. Not just Whites. My boy looks like a Cholo, baldhead etc. And last time we were in Mexico he got pulled over twice. Both times he had to pay them off. I remember another time, my neighbors at the hotel got arrested 3 times(LOL) and they were Mexican. Mexican popo are out for money, skin color means nothing to them.


I just don't see how profiling works. A group of 5 Latinos could knock over a liquor store, that don't mean me and my homies would. So, why pull us over? Oh because we fit the "stereotype?" That's bullshit. Cops don't gotta search everybody, but they do have search more than just one or two certain races. You said yourself, anyone can committ a crime.
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: R-Tistic on May 10, 2004, 07:51:15 PM
I know the thing about Mexico is bullshit. They fuck with Americans. Not just Whites. My boy looks like a Cholo, baldhead etc. And last time we were in Mexico he got pulled over twice. Both times he had to pay them off. I remember another time, my neighbors at the hotel got arrested 3 times(LOL) and they were Mexican. Mexican popo are out for money, skin color means nothing to them.


I just don't see how profiling works. A group of 5 Latinos could knock over a liquor store, that don't mean me and my homies would. So, why pull us over? Oh because we fit the "stereotype?" That's bullshit. Cops don't gotta search everybody, but they do have search more than just one or two certain races. You said yourself, anyone can committ a crime.

You seem like one of the only ones that can feel where I am comin from. I wasn't really bitchin about racism like some people in the thread seem to think I was. Yeah, even if some people from a certain race may do somethin more than others, when you fit that profile and you end up bein a victim, you don't care about the ones who do it because you know it's not you and the shit just frustrates you. And as I said, the cops usually can tell who is up to what. Those R&B Avant type black dudes really aren't about to start anything with anybody, believe me.
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: SGV on May 10, 2004, 08:00:33 PM
The people who are disagreeing are white. They don't know what it's like to be Latino or Black in the U.S. Everyday we get profiled, soley based on our skin color. So, to say "Get over it," is rather ignorant. You don't know how it feels to be suspected of something just because of your skin color.

I think that whenever White males enter buildings they should be searched. We don't want any other Oklahoma Bombing type tragedies.

 ::)
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: SGV on May 10, 2004, 08:08:36 PM
I don't know if I ever posted this here.

My moms used to teach Spanish to local cops here. Though a joke, they once told her: 3 Blacks are in a car, "they must be on their way to do a drive-by." 3 Mexicans are in a car, "they must've stole it." 3 Whites are in a car, "Look at how considerate, they're carpooling to help the environment."

I always thought it was fucked up.
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on May 10, 2004, 09:25:19 PM
Ok, say they just start searching Muslims and a white guy Hi-Jacks a plane. You know how dumb they'd look? "Well, we decided that profiling is the best way to stop Terrorists, this one just slipped through the cracks."




What are the chances of that happening though? Slim to none...The odds of an Arab being a hi-jacker are much greater, so common sense tells the police it would only be more logical to search Arabs more than any other race.
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: SGV on May 10, 2004, 10:04:16 PM
It's possible. White people can do crazy shit, too.

Columbine kids, Unibomber, David Coresh, Manson, Ted Bundy, McVeigh etc. These muthafuckas did some crazy shit, but I don't see whites getting profiled.
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on May 10, 2004, 10:15:45 PM
It's possible. White people can do crazy shit, too.

Columbine kids, Unibomber, David Coresh, Manson, Ted Bundy, McVeigh etc. These muthafuckas did some crazy shit, but I don't see whites getting profiled.


It's possible, but it's a lot less likely, and that's why it's also a lot less likely for whites to be stopped/checked...The white people you named come up about once every decade. When we hear of a serial killer on the news, we automatically assume he's white, but that rarely ever comes up.
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: SGV on May 10, 2004, 10:30:32 PM
How many times have Arabs Hi-Jacked planes?
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on May 10, 2004, 11:08:12 PM
How many times have Arabs Hi-Jacked planes?


Twice...But Arabs commit acts of terrorism regularly.
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on May 10, 2004, 11:36:04 PM
Homie, all Minorities look like gang bangers to Cops. It's like this one time I was in Pasadena. Me, my brother and 3 homies. Not one of us look like a cholo. We were in a 99 Civic, not exactly a Cholo-type of car. Cops harrassed us saying we were suspected for attempting to steal cars. That wasn't some justified shit, because we were in my brothers car. He showed them registration and everything. Muthafuckas just wanted to stress us.


tha trick is to ask the officer for the case number, you'd win in court so easy if they ain't got a case number.....dats if U have the drive 2 take it that far.....I kno I don't, many times I could have for various issues.....but my moms was always tellin me fuck it....

NIK, Arabs commit terrorism regulary in America?? LOL.

Bez, NO ONE has the RIGHT to do that....so some latin fools was throwin em at the club and now the pigs have the RIGHT to harrass any of em that they want??




Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: Trauma-san on May 11, 2004, 07:42:47 AM
Twice? Fuck, EVERYTIME an airline is hijacked, it's an Arab.  This has been going on since the 70's.  Remember that crazy fucker that crashed one off the shore of Cali back in the late 80's screaming some shit about the Ayatollah?
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: I-Yoof on May 11, 2004, 08:41:43 AM
fuck dat rasist ass shit ese we gotta stand up 2 dem culeros espesialy da eses

Please crawl into a corner and die you poor excuse for a human.
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: bez on May 11, 2004, 09:12:49 AM
The people who are disagreeing are white. They don't know what it's like to be Latino or Black in the U.S. Everyday we get profiled, soley based on our skin color. So, to say "Get over it," is rather ignorant. You don't know how it feels to be suspected of something just because of your skin color.

I think that whenever White males enter buildings they should be searched. We don't want any other Oklahoma Bombing type tragedies.

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Man, you just gotta get on with it.  Thats life.  Are you suprised that blacks have this kind of reputation after rap music, gangsta films and shit.  I ain't saying its an excuse for shit because nobody has the right to treat anybody any differently because of the colour of their skin but blacks don't half seem to moan about shit alot.  SO what they pulled you over, just get on with it.  If you ain't got nothing to hide, why you bothered.  End of the day if a pig gets a call on his radio saying "keep an eye on black kids in the area as their has been shootings the last 2 weeks" then for fucks sake they have the right to stop you.

How do you know its because of the colour of your skin.  If a balck police man or asian policeman or whatever pulled me over I wouldn't start bitchin saying its because of the colour of my skin and shit.  Its simply their job.

Rod, I am simply saying that if they have to stop 15 cars full of blacks/latin fools in order to stop 1 of them black/latin fools getting shot up and killed that night nobody should have a problem with it.  If nobody had the right to do that we would be going back about 50 years time and believe me many more blacks/latin/white fools would be getting killed everyday.  
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on May 11, 2004, 10:04:51 AM
Twice? Fuck, EVERYTIME an airline is hijacked, it's an Arab.  This has been going on since the 70's.  Remember that crazy fucker that crashed one off the shore of Cali back in the late 80's screaming some shit about the Ayatollah?


Well, it happened probably more than twice...I was just talking about the 2 major ones which I remembered.

You people gotta understand that even though planes don't get hi-jacked very often, when they do get hi-jacked, thousands of people could die...And Arabs DO commit terrorism regularly. I never said in America, just in general.
Title: Re:Would you call it racism?
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on May 11, 2004, 02:41:46 PM
Tonite, me and my homeboys went to The Boogie, which is an 18+ club in Anaheim for those that don't know. I hadn't been since last summer, but I heard that there have been a few fights and I think it was a shooting since then. It seems like most of the incidents happen between blacks and mexicans. The security is usually always trippin on us both for that reason, if not more reasons. So tonite, we had to park valet, and when we were drivin in, the cops/flashlights stopped us and told us they had to search the car. I was like "I am not tryin to be hard headed or anything, but isn't it illegal for you to search my car with no warrant?" he was like "well if you don't want us to search it, we won't, but you won't get in" and I was like man fuggit, I drove 35 min. to Anaheim and I definitely don't have any alcohol or drugs or anything illegal, so they can go ahead. It was me and three homeboys, all black, in a 98 corolla, we didn't look suspicious but I figured they searched everybody. I was still kinda mad....but this is what pissed me off. I saw about seven cars drive in right after me, all whites....not a siiiiiiiingle one of them was searched or asked to get out the car. This pissed me off a lot, seein these cars drive by and the cops obviously targeted us, even though I know we didn't even look like gang bangers. Even worst, when I got inside, I talked to three different groups of blacks who said they were all searched as well, while they saw whites and asians drive straight through.

But even though it was racist to me, I still thought about it....true, it's horrible that I have to suffer because of the blacks that do act up. But damn...I've been to all types of parties and clubs, and most of the times, blacks are the ones who act up. I have seen whites get wild when they are drunk, but the shootings, big fights, people yellin loud and ignorant, etc. etc. is usually the blacks. Now it's too much to get into where the source of this problem comes from, but do you think that situations like these are handled right? I don't trip on them searchin the cars because I definitely don't wanna get shot, but even if the whites usually aren't the ones shootin the clubs up, it's still unfair to just target blacks and mexicans specifially. How do you feel about that?

thats some hectic shit dawg, funny thing is it happens all the time, and homie everytime u get just as vexed as the last..........homie we always gon be victimized by the pigz, fuck cops, nuff said.....

peace
Title: Re: Would you call it racism?
Post by: Sccit on January 08, 2014, 01:51:58 PM
WOULD YOU?
Title: Re: Would you call it racism?
Post by: KrazySumwhat on January 09, 2014, 12:05:41 AM
 meh iam white and i got searched all the time when i was young.
 Cant speak for America but here it goes both ways. Non white may be targeted and stero typed but at the same time they get away with shit because its "racist" to accuse a non white of anything.
Title: Re: Would you call it racism?
Post by: Fraxxx on January 09, 2014, 04:18:02 AM
meh iam white and i got searched all the time when i was young.
 Cant speak for America but here it goes both ways. Non white may be targeted and stero typed but at the same time they get away with shit because its "racist" to accuse a non white of anything.

I'm struggeling to understand how you can be targeted and stereotyped, yet at the same can't be accused of anything. :D
Title: Re: Would you call it racism?
Post by: KrazySumwhat on January 09, 2014, 09:28:00 PM
 Well the media makes it look like non whites are bad but the cops are too scared to do anything when they actually are bad because that would be insensative and racist.
Title: Re: Would you call it racism?
Post by: Fraxxx on January 11, 2014, 03:41:21 AM
Well the media makes it look like non whites are bad but the cops are too scared to do anything when they actually are bad because that would be insensative and racist.

I know what you mean. I guess that's why there are no black or brown folks in prison.