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Title: Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Montana00 on May 11, 2004, 01:25:10 PM
Well here we go again. Daniel pearl all over again.
theres a video thats been released that shows a man getting beheaded. hes an american, and before hes killed he names everyone in his family and where he lives to prove hes american. the iraqis who did this say its in retaliation for the abuse.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&u=/ap/20040511/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_2

when i get the vid i might post it

any thoughts. my thought is this is disgusting. please bush tell me

WHY DO WE HELP THESE PEOPLE????
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Trauma-san on May 11, 2004, 01:38:23 PM
The only reason we're helping them is because if we leave them over there to wallow in their own shit, they eventually try to come over here and attack us.  So the only way we can keep them from being dumbasses is to go over there and hold their hand like little fucking children.  They're not civilized.  You don't see Europeans going around bombing the fuck out of each other... that's because they're civilized.  These fuckers over in the middle east still live in caves, wipe their ass with their hands, and still haven't learned how to live together without attacking each other.  So, we have to attack them before they attack us.  I wish we'd just level the place, and stop sending ours over to get killed.  Fuck these people.  They want to attack us, talk shit about us on t.v., help train terrorists, kill their own, etc.... we ought to just rid the world of the problem, instead of bringing the problem to us.  


If You Can't Settle It.... Level It.  
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: 7even on May 11, 2004, 01:39:47 PM
you dont help these people. you kill, rape, humiliate, torture, disposses and exploit them.
why do you do that? have they done anything to you in the first place? no.

but why do they kill you? retaliation. you attacked them before for no reason.

did they attack you before you killed, raped, humiliated, tortured, dispossesed and exploited them? no.
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: JTSimon on May 11, 2004, 01:43:35 PM
Islamic Web site claims revenge killing
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CAIRO, Egypt, - A video posted Tuesday on an Islamic militant Web site showed the beheading of an American civilian in Iraq, and said the execution was carried out by an al-Qaida affiliated group to avenge the abuse of Iraqi prisoners by American soldiers.http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4953015/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4953015/)

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"So we tell you that the dignity of the Muslim men and women in Abu Ghraib and others is not redeemed except by blood and souls. You will not receive anything from us but coffins after coffins ... slaughtered in this way."

You know who to blame  ::)
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Montana00 on May 11, 2004, 01:48:20 PM
you dont help these people. you kill, rape, humiliate, torture, disposses and exploit them.
why do you do that? have they done anything to you in the first place? no.

but why do they kill you? retaliation. you attacked them before for no reason.

did they attack you before you killed, raped, humiliated, tortured, dispossesed and exploited them? no.

You know what pisses me off about you?

a handful of us soliders humilate some iraqis in a prison and suddenly america and its soliders are some horrible militant country thats out to destroy the world.

wake the fuck up. So yea.....They werent a current threa.....so yea....they didnt have WMD....Ok we got it bush is a dumbfuck who sent us into a war for no apparent reason. But the fact still remains the iraqis were livin a hell of a lot worse will all those fuckin dictators runnin the country. HE WAS CONTROLLING EVERYTHING THOSE FUCKING IRAQIS WERE DOING. Dont you remember when those arabs were ripping down the saddam statue. The fact remains.....they ahted saddam and what he did to their country, but they also hate the fact that us soliders and coalition are roaming their streets, and i would hate it too. they got saddam out and ok great time to go.

Chemical ali is going on trial soon, and it was the iraqis who stopped him.... nor those no good germans. im not condoning the war, but i still stand by the fact that these as trauma said CAVE MEN are fucking animals.

so yea we tied a leash to an iraqi, but DID WE FUCKING BEHEAD HIM??????
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: JTSimon on May 11, 2004, 01:51:45 PM
The only reason we're helping them is because if we leave them over there to wallow in their own shit, they eventually try to come over here and attack us.  So the only way we can keep them from being dumbasses is to go over there and hold their hand like little fucking children.  They're not civilized.  You don't see Europeans going around bombing the fuck out of each other... that's because they're civilized.  These fuckers over in the middle east still live in caves, wipe their ass with their hands, and still haven't learned how to live together without attacking each other.  So, we have to attack them before they attack us.  I wish we'd just level the place, and stop sending ours over to get killed.  Fuck these people.  They want to attack us, talk shit about us on t.v., help train terrorists, kill their own, etc.... we ought to just rid the world of the problem, instead of bringing the problem to us.  


If You Can't Settle It.... Level It.  

You don't see Europeans going around bombing the fuck out of each other... that's because they're civilized.

IRA - Irish Republican Army  ::)


Yeah Al Queda attacked the WTC on 9/11 because they were bored.
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Maestro Minded on May 11, 2004, 01:51:59 PM
i cant say i did not see this one coming....
you cant torture innocent humans where there are radical groups and expect them to do nothing...
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: 7even on May 11, 2004, 01:58:09 PM
you dont help these people. you kill, rape, humiliate, torture, disposses and exploit them.
why do you do that? have they done anything to you in the first place? no.

but why do they kill you? retaliation. you attacked them before for no reason.

did they attack you before you killed, raped, humiliated, tortured, dispossesed and exploited them? no.

You know what pisses me off about you?

[....]

so yea we tied a leash to an iraqi, but DID WE FUCKING BEHEAD HIM??????

ok.

First, would you consider it helping if you see a guy is punched be a bigger guy - and you kill the bigger guy who punches the other guy. But after that, you punch the guy youre "helping" just like the guy before you did, earning some money with every punch.
I dont consider that helping. I consider it taking advantage without improving anyones situation but yours.

For those who dont get it:
You = USA
Bigger Guy = Saddam
other guy = Iraq
money = oil and shit

Second, yes, beheading an maybe innocent civilian - you gotta be a fuckin animal, but so are the US Soldiers. They are the ones to blame for this tragic incident. You cant humilate those Iraqis and publicate it (look at the irony which cwalker pointed out etc) and expect to get away with it. The killing of this man is not justified, since he wasnt the one who did that naughty atrocities (as I assume). But it's symbolically justified. These animals are at least understandable as they retaliate for some apparant reason. The US-Animals arent, cause they acted like this without any apparant reason, hell, like you said, the whole war is started and executed without an apparant reason.


my 2 cents,
Harbinger
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Montana00 on May 11, 2004, 02:01:04 PM
you guys are sick if you think this is justifed.

yea ok ill fly over there right now and they can put a leash on me while im naked.

but seriously that guy cant go home and see his family now, because some us soliders took pictures of prisoners naked. its just not right.
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: 7even on May 11, 2004, 02:06:12 PM
you guys are sick if you think this is justifed.

yea ok ill fly over there right now and they can put a leash on me while im naked.

but seriously that guy cant go home and see his family now, because some us soliders took pictures of prisoners naked. its just not right.

thing is also, I really doubt the things you talk about were the only things done to the Iraqis by US/British soldiers. I really really do. There's just to video/absolute proof out yet. But that doesnt mean it didnt happen, neither does it mean it wont be publicated sooner or later.

So for me, the only reason why it's not justified is that this man didnt do harm (as we all can only assume).
But, as I pointed out before, it's symbolically justified.
Besides, like I also said before, the US have to blame that on their own kind. You cant do such a war with such methods in such a country and expect nothing will get back to you.
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: JTSimon on May 11, 2004, 02:07:28 PM
Fuck him he can go to hell.

Went to Iraq to make money from this invasion?

I can careless.
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: JTSimon on May 11, 2004, 02:10:45 PM
you guys are sick if you think this is justifed.

Almost everything terrorist do can be justified.
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Montana00 on May 11, 2004, 02:26:22 PM
you guys are sick if you think this is justifed.

Almost everything terrorist do can be justified.

World Trade Center was justified?

over 2000 innocent civillians......how could you say that acts like these are justified.

but 7even ill give you to what your saying. i understand where your coming from. i think im about to say it.....i agree with you.

although kain on the other hand.....i just think your way off.
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Real American on May 11, 2004, 02:41:31 PM
Muslims are fucking animals. What else can you really say?  
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Montana00 on May 11, 2004, 03:07:14 PM
Ok for those of you who think that this is a justified retaliation id like to compare and contrast. And BTW if you still think this beheading is justifed....

(http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/iraqis_tortured/iraqis_tortured_newyorker-e.jpg)

Ok thats what we did. Those were known rebels in iraq that attack our troops. Most of the prisoners at this prison we from fallujah.

(http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/fallujah_31mar04/fallujah_31mar04-ap1.jpg)

thats a photo of an iraqi mob in fallujah. they killed 4 or 5 us soldiers and then became to destroy their bodies. 2 were RE-burnt 1 was ripped apart and their body parts were thrown around. and as in the picture a us soliders body was tied to a bridge.

(https://home.comcast.net/~nathan784/pictures/head.jpg)

thats a capture i took from the beheading the recent one of the INNOCENT us civillian.

now please tell who are the barbaric ones? the people who stripped some people and took photos. or the people who mutilated dead bodies and BEHEADED A FUCKING US CIVILIAN.

and again whos the fucking cave man.....whos the fucking animal. sure those us soliders were wrong we all know that, but was it justified.

to 7even. if the beheading was justified by the abuse. then couldnt we say that the abuse was justified by the fallujah torture??
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: smerlus on May 11, 2004, 03:16:43 PM

Second, yes, beheading an maybe innocent civilian - you gotta be a fuckin animal, but so are the US Soldiers. They are the ones to blame for this tragic incident. You cant humilate those Iraqis and publicate it (look at the irony which cwalker pointed out etc) and expect to get away with it. The killing of this man is not justified, since he wasnt the one who did that naughty atrocities (as I assume). But it's symbolically justified. These animals are at least understandable as they retaliate for some apparant reason. The US-Animals arent, cause they acted like this without any apparant reason, hell, like you said, the whole war is started and executed without an apparant reason.

my 2 cents,
Harbinger

now we're getting some where... so you can understand that these iraqi's killed this man for the torture other americans did to his people....

well then us americans are just getting back at arabs for what they did to us....

same fucking thing...now how are you gonna talk your way out of that?
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: 7even on May 11, 2004, 03:22:10 PM

Second, yes, beheading an maybe innocent civilian - you gotta be a fuckin animal, but so are the US Soldiers. They are the ones to blame for this tragic incident. You cant humilate those Iraqis and publicate it (look at the irony which cwalker pointed out etc) and expect to get away with it. The killing of this man is not justified, since he wasnt the one who did that naughty atrocities (as I assume). But it's symbolically justified. These animals are at least understandable as they retaliate for some apparant reason. The US-Animals arent, cause they acted like this without any apparant reason, hell, like you said, the whole war is started and executed without an apparant reason.

my 2 cents,
Harbinger

now we're getting some where... so you can understand that these iraqi's killed this man for the torture other americans did to his people....

well then us americans are just getting back at arabs for what they did to us....

same fucking thing...now how are you gonna talk your way out of that?

that would work if Iraqis did something to you in the first place, which simply isnt the case.
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: smerlus on May 11, 2004, 03:30:22 PM

Second, yes, beheading an maybe innocent civilian - you gotta be a fuckin animal, but so are the US Soldiers. They are the ones to blame for this tragic incident. You cant humilate those Iraqis and publicate it (look at the irony which cwalker pointed out etc) and expect to get away with it. The killing of this man is not justified, since he wasnt the one who did that naughty atrocities (as I assume). But it's symbolically justified. These animals are at least understandable as they retaliate for some apparant reason. The US-Animals arent, cause they acted like this without any apparant reason, hell, like you said, the whole war is started and executed without an apparant reason.

my 2 cents,
Harbinger

now we're getting some where... so you can understand that these iraqi's killed this man for the torture other americans did to his people....

well then us americans are just getting back at arabs for what they did to us....

same fucking thing...now how are you gonna talk your way out of that?

that would work if Iraqis did something to you in the first place, which simply isnt the case.

but arabs did...if you can justify this by linking two people together just because they come from the same country i can link people together by race
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Lincoln on May 11, 2004, 03:34:01 PM
i cant say i did not see this one coming....
you cant torture innocent humans where there are radical groups and expect them to do nothing...

Great post, I agree 100%.
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: JTSimon on May 11, 2004, 03:38:58 PM
-rampant

More prisoner abuse photos are to come.

Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: 7even on May 11, 2004, 03:43:34 PM

Second, yes, beheading an maybe innocent civilian - you gotta be a fuckin animal, but so are the US Soldiers. They are the ones to blame for this tragic incident. You cant humilate those Iraqis and publicate it (look at the irony which cwalker pointed out etc) and expect to get away with it. The killing of this man is not justified, since he wasnt the one who did that naughty atrocities (as I assume). But it's symbolically justified. These animals are at least understandable as they retaliate for some apparant reason. The US-Animals arent, cause they acted like this without any apparant reason, hell, like you said, the whole war is started and executed without an apparant reason.

my 2 cents,
Harbinger

now we're getting some where... so you can understand that these iraqi's killed this man for the torture other americans did to his people....

well then us americans are just getting back at arabs for what they did to us....

same fucking thing...now how are you gonna talk your way out of that?

that would work if Iraqis did something to you in the first place, which simply isnt the case.

but arabs did...if you can justify this by linking two people together just because they come from the same country i can link people together by race

yes I said it's not justified since this dude didnt do shit. nevertheless it's a message to the sick soldiers and the government. US attacking afghanistan was fucked up either, but noone said shit since it was understandable retaliation. Iraq is a whole different story.
however you try to put it, Im right. are you obsessed with disagreeing with me or what's your problem?
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: smerlus on May 11, 2004, 03:47:53 PM
no i just love to smite morons that contradict themselves. you said they're not justified, but yet they are justified and it's understandable what they did
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Montana00 on May 11, 2004, 03:56:42 PM
yea i know more abuse photos are coming out, but i was basically pointing out two things in that post

1) the way muslim/middle eastern people behave is in a barbaric way hence the animals remark.

2) 7even said that they were justified in chopping the head off because we abused iraqi prisoners. i stated then we were justifed in the abuse because they killed 4 soliders and then mutilated their bodies as shown in the picture above.

to whoever said the us are animals. Do you see us soliders climbing bridges tieing iraqi prisoners to bridges? or killing iraqis and then burning their bodies? or killing iraqi prisoners followed by ripping their body parts...apart? NO, so whos the animal?
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: 7even on May 11, 2004, 03:56:48 PM
no i just love to smite morons that contradict themselves. you said they're not justified, but yet they are justified and it's understandable what they did

1) I never contradicted myself ... ever. If you think I contradict myself, it must be you and there must be an explanation.
2) I feel like I have to tell you that Im not impressed when ppl try to fuck with me. Since you look up to me, I thought this information might be useful.
3) I dont speak moronish. Just that I'll have you know.
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Real American on May 11, 2004, 04:12:18 PM
You guys are forgeting that beheading is a very important aspect of the Islamic religion. Remember, they beheaded Danial Pearl last year in Pakistan, and Abu Sayaf is always kidnapping and beheading westerners in the Phillipines. Pretty much anyone who is white or Christian or Jewish is under the threat of being beheaded by Muslims. Always keep your eyes open when they are around you because you could be next.

Don't get me wrong though. In no way am I implying that beheading innocent civilians is anywhere near as bad as taking naked photographs of terrorists. I was relieved when I just went to BBC.com and saw 9,000 stories on prisoner abuse at Abu Girab prison and just the one small story about the beheaded American. At least the international media still has its priorities straight.
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Montana00 on May 11, 2004, 04:15:41 PM
i know thank god

who really gives a shit about an innocent civillian?
the real story is that nude iraqi, his family probably cant even look at him without laughing anymore.

its a pity some peoples lives are ruined.....others are cut short.
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Woodrow on May 11, 2004, 04:37:26 PM
People really showed their true colors in this thread...

7even and Maxi go around complaining about human rights and pretending to be champions of the equality, but when something happens that NOBODY can justify, they come out saying things like: I saw this one coming. You really can't blame them. etc...

It just shows your true feelings about the value of human life. Nobody on Dubcc from here on out will take your whining seriously because of your words in this thread. I'll never forget when Max said it was OK for Saddam to Gas his own people. You don't value human life, you hate it and you're little world is so mixed up, that you let politics warp your mind into excusing murder. If you're so compassionate and care about human life so much, why don't you condemn this instead of trying to stick up for it.

You people make me sick. Every single American with half a brain condemned what went on at that Iraqi prison. What happens when the sides are switched? You're looking at it...
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Woodrow on May 11, 2004, 04:51:54 PM
(http://www.coxandforkum.com/archives/TorturedLogic-X.gif)
Althought it's just a cartoon, this sums up you morons nicely.
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Montana00 on May 11, 2004, 05:00:30 PM
ok heres what gets me about the media (this kinda goes along with this topic)

right now its "o an american citizen was brutaly murdered."

tomorrows headline would be either

more soldiers testify and deepen this abuse scandal or
more photos emerge charging more soliders

thats what gets me
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Trauma-san on May 11, 2004, 05:16:59 PM
What it comes down to, and I didn't even read the replies, is Fuck an Iraqi citizen.  I want the American Army to go ahead and send the jets in, kill every man, woman, and child in site.  Fuck yall.  I'm sick of the bullshit... an Iraqi is inferior to an American, that's just the way it is now.  You're not even civilized in the Middle east, and as I knew it would be, it's war, motherfuckers.  I say we start leveling major Middle East cities immediately, killing whoever like the uncivilized dogs that they are, and then move on from there.  Lets see how long we get fucked with when there's nobody fucking left over there.  Period.  Say what you want, I don't give a fuck.  
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Montana00 on May 11, 2004, 05:39:58 PM
What it comes down to, and I didn't even read the replies, is Fuck an Iraqi citizen.  I want the American Army to go ahead and send the jets in, kill every man, woman, and child in site.  Fuck yall.  I'm sick of the bullshit... an Iraqi is inferior to an American, that's just the way it is now.  You're not even civilized in the Middle east, and as I knew it would be, it's war, motherfuckers.  I say we start leveling major Middle East cities immediately, killing whoever like the uncivilized dogs that they are, and then move on from there.  Lets see how long we get fucked with when there's nobody fucking left over there.  Period.  Say what you want, I don't give a fuck.  

god trauma, why dont you think before you speak......

you have to steal all of the middle east oil first before you nuke it, otherwise where are we going to get our oil??? start using your head, think of the oil. I mean shit our gas prices are over 2.00$$$ a gallon sucks for me and my expedition.

 ;D ;)
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Trauma-san on May 11, 2004, 06:38:07 PM
Come on, man.  We'll aim the nukes at the unimportant things (like Iraqi citizens, drinking water, etc.) I'm not going to go around targeting Oil wells, lol, what kind of person do you think I am????
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on May 11, 2004, 07:12:32 PM
What it comes down to, and I didn't even read the replies, is Fuck an Iraqi citizen.  I want the American Army to go ahead and send the jets in, kill every man, woman, and child in site.  Fuck yall.  I'm sick of the bullshit... an Iraqi is inferior to an American, that's just the way it is now.  You're not even civilized in the Middle east, and as I knew it would be, it's war, motherfuckers.  I say we start leveling major Middle East cities immediately, killing whoever like the uncivilized dogs that they are, and then move on from there.  Lets see how long we get fucked with when there's nobody fucking left over there.  Period.  Say what you want, I don't give a fuck.  



huh? naw seriously.....u playin rite?


Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Primo on May 11, 2004, 07:13:00 PM
hahahahahahaha. LMAO...I don't care what anyone says.. Taking pictures of naked terrorists is to Beheading civilians    is like comparing a shoplifter to a serial killer
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Montana00 on May 11, 2004, 07:16:24 PM
i could upload the video of the beheading if anyone wants to see it.

its a little blurry, but you can see the head really well....in the guys hand  :-X
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Real American on May 11, 2004, 07:17:35 PM
ok heres what gets me about the media (this kinda goes along with this topic)

right now its "o an american citizen was brutaly murdered."

tomorrows headline would be either

more soldiers testify and deepen this abuse scandal or
more photos emerge charging more soliders

thats what gets me

That is true, this story will be forgotten within several days while the Iraqi prison abuse story will be sensationalized for months and months. The international media is so anti-American that it will make sure of that.

That is one of the problems....we have been completely desensitized to Islamic terror. In just this past week, Muslim terrorists assasinated the president of Chechnya and killed 10 others bystanders, bombed to death 11 Chinese nationals in Pakistan,  set off a bomb in a Sunni mosque in Pakistan and killzed dozens, and now decapitated someone for being American and Christian. Yet these stories barely get any coverage because we have become accustomed to Muslims commiting this type of savagery. In contrast, the story of Iraqi prisoners being photographed naked has gotten massive coverage for two weeks straight and shows no sign of stopping. Does anyone not see how ridiculous this is?
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Real American on May 11, 2004, 07:20:30 PM
i could upload the video of the beheading if anyone wants to see it.

its a little blurry, but you can see the head really well....in the guys hand  :-X

Don't upload it man. How can anyone want to watch that?
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: platinumk777 on May 11, 2004, 07:29:43 PM
I don't care what anyone says.. Taking pictures of naked terrorists is to Beheading civilians    is like comparing a shoplifter to a serial killer

I'm gonna have to agree on this one... I watched the video, and it made me sick to my stomach. I feel terrible for the family, if they had to watch that
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Rain on May 11, 2004, 07:41:31 PM
that sucks that an American was beheaded - it was wrong and there is no excuse. i feel sorry for the victims. those guilty should be brought to justice. no one deserves death no matter what they have done.

that sucks that iraqi prisoners are being tortured - it was wrong and there is no excuse. i feel sorry for the victims. those guilty should be brought to justice. no one deserves torture no matter what they have done.

some people really have some power issues in this world. its a shame.
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Montana00 on May 11, 2004, 07:42:59 PM
if i was a family member what would be worse then my son dying would be that nothing is done in retaliation.

they know the name of the man that actually cut his head off. they NEED to find this man and arrest him.

i smell another nude photo abrewing lol

about the fallujah body mutilating. what made me mad about this was the bush administration kept saying how "they will retaliate and there will be revenge on this horrific crime"

they sent marines to fallujah and had a battle for about a day.....AND CALLED A TRUCE WITH THE PEOPLE. i dont know about you guys but there wasnt much retaliation. it kinda made it seem like it wasnt that big of a deal to our government to just call a truce.
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Trauma-san on May 11, 2004, 09:11:05 PM
ok heres what gets me about the media (this kinda goes along with this topic)

right now its "o an american citizen was brutaly murdered."

tomorrows headline would be either

more soldiers testify and deepen this abuse scandal or
more photos emerge charging more soliders

thats what gets me

That is true, this story will be forgotten within several days while the Iraqi prison abuse story will be sensationalized for months and months. The international media is so anti-American that it will make sure of that.

That is one of the problems....we have been completely desensitized to Islamic terror. In just this past week, Muslim terrorists assasinated the president of Chechnya and killed 10 others bystanders, bombed to death 11 Chinese nationals in Pakistan,  set off a bomb in a Sunni mosque in Pakistan and killzed dozens, and now decapitated someone for being American and Christian. Yet these stories barely get any coverage because we have become accustomed to Muslims commiting this type of savagery. In contrast, the story of Iraqi prisoners being photographed naked has gotten massive coverage for two weeks straight and shows no sign of stopping. Does anyone not see how ridiculous this is?

Of course it's rediculous.  Bombs.  Lots of them.  
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on May 11, 2004, 11:25:50 PM
that sucks that an American was beheaded - it was wrong and there is no excuse. i feel sorry for the victims. those guilty should be brought to justice. no one deserves death no matter what they have done.

that sucks that iraqi prisoners are being tortured - it was wrong and there is no excuse. i feel sorry for the victims. those guilty should be brought to justice. no one deserves torture no matter what they have done.
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: 7even on May 12, 2004, 02:41:21 AM
What it comes down to, and I didn't even read the replies, is Fuck an Iraqi citizen.  I want the American Army to go ahead and send the jets in, kill every man, woman, and child in site.  Fuck yall.  I'm sick of the bullshit... an Iraqi is inferior to an American, that's just the way it is now.  You're not even civilized in the Middle east, and as I knew it would be, it's war, motherfuckers.  I say we start leveling major Middle East cities immediately, killing whoever like the uncivilized dogs that they are, and then move on from there.  Lets see how long we get fucked with when there's nobody fucking left over there.  Period.  Say what you want, I don't give a fuck.  

ok, from now on you arent supposed to criticize what anybody else says.
also, I wont take your word concerning politics serious anymore, ever.


and Engel... you criticize what I have said, even though Im obviously right, and you wont say shit about this ^... here the double standards you criticize come right back at you.
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: 7even on May 12, 2004, 02:45:28 AM
i could upload the video of the beheading if anyone wants to see it.

its a little blurry, but you can see the head really well....in the guys hand  :-X

Don't upload it man. How can anyone want to watch that?

the fuck, are you outta your fuckin mind? get the hell outta here with such cruel atrocities.... it's fucked up enough that they happen, no reason to make it worse by seeing them
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: willie_d on May 12, 2004, 02:57:07 AM
I have to say I'm disgusted at this and feel sorry for the man's relatives.
Although I'm very much opposed against this illegal war and Bush and his buddies constantly fucking things up in our world, I don't have words for beheading this man  :-\.
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: ARYC on May 12, 2004, 06:11:13 AM
"HE WAS CONTROLLING EVERYTHING THOSE FUCKING IRAQIS WERE DOING."

I'm not deffending Saddam or anythin but he did what he had to do to maintain controll of the country. you NEED fear to controll these ppl , i mean hell where the fuck was Moktada al Sadr when Saddam was in power? he WAS IN IRAN SCARED SHITTLESS OF SADDAM, where is he now that he got a little space to move around? trying to take control of the country and installing a regime that would be just as bad as Saddam's.

PPL in Iraq aren't ready for democraty because they still have the "if i vote for something and it doesn't happen , i'm gonna pick up a gun and make it happen" mentality  
there is a HUGE possibility of an IRAQI CIVIL WAR in the next few years because whoever won't get his way will start shit for no reason , THEN when they start killing each other they'll be calling the international community to come help install peace (they'll be calling on the same ppl they were killing).... and the same can be said about all the middle eastern countrys

I personally don't give a shit anymore about Iraqis dying and whatever else is happening over there, if anything I'm happy that ppl are starting to feel the same way I do about these pieces of shit that i have to call neighbors , Fuck the Syrians , the Palestinians and whoever else is retarded enough to believe in "arab unity"  

 
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Trauma-san on May 12, 2004, 06:21:27 AM
Have we attacked these fucks yet?  Anybody heard of any cities blowing up? No, because we'll have to take the PC approach.  Fuck 'Em.  I wonder when all the muslims in America are going to turn on us.  Glad I've got the guns stockpiled.  
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: JTSimon on May 12, 2004, 07:26:04 AM
Yeah I'm sure for example if African Americans helped Japan invade America they'd probably get gassed too.

Saddam killed his own people...I want the American Army to go ahead and send the jets in, kill every man, woman, and child in site.  ::)

It's sight meth head.



What it comes down to, and I didn't even read the replies, is Fuck an Iraqi citizen.  I want the American Army to go ahead and send the jets in, kill every man, woman, and child in site.  Fuck yall.  I'm sick of the bullshit... an Iraqi is inferior to an American, that's just the way it is now.  You're not even civilized in the Middle east, and as I knew it would be, it's war, motherfuckers.  I say we start leveling major Middle East cities immediately, killing whoever like the uncivilized dogs that they are, and then move on from there.  Lets see how long we get fucked with when there's nobody fucking left over there.  Period.  Say what you want, I don't give a fuck.  

Why don't you go over there and help out ?


Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: JTSimon on May 12, 2004, 07:53:26 AM
http://www.xs4all.nl/~jvdkuyp/iraq2vedio2.rm.ram
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Don Jacob on May 12, 2004, 09:38:03 AM
Yeah I'm sure for example if African Americans helped Japan invade America they'd probably get gassed too.

Saddam killed his own people...I want the American Army to go ahead and send the jets in, kill every man, woman, and child in site.  ::)

It's sight meth head.



What it comes down to, and I didn't even read the replies, is Fuck an Iraqi citizen.  I want the American Army to go ahead and send the jets in, kill every man, woman, and child in site.  Fuck yall.  I'm sick of the bullshit... an Iraqi is inferior to an American, that's just the way it is now.  You're not even civilized in the Middle east, and as I knew it would be, it's war, motherfuckers.  I say we start leveling major Middle East cities immediately, killing whoever like the uncivilized dogs that they are, and then move on from there.  Lets see how long we get fucked with when there's nobody fucking left over there.  Period.  Say what you want, I don't give a fuck.  

Why don't you go over there and help out ?




shows what you know...some african americans sympathised and tried to help the japanese effort.
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: JTSimon on May 12, 2004, 09:49:18 AM
Yeah I'm sure for example if African Americans helped Japan invade America they'd probably get gassed too.

Saddam killed his own people...I want the American Army to go ahead and send the jets in, kill every man, woman, and child in site.  ::)

It's sight meth head.



What it comes down to, and I didn't even read the replies, is Fuck an Iraqi citizen.  I want the American Army to go ahead and send the jets in, kill every man, woman, and child in site.  Fuck yall.  I'm sick of the bullshit... an Iraqi is inferior to an American, that's just the way it is now.  You're not even civilized in the Middle east, and as I knew it would be, it's war, motherfuckers.  I say we start leveling major Middle East cities immediately, killing whoever like the uncivilized dogs that they are, and then move on from there.  Lets see how long we get fucked with when there's nobody fucking left over there.  Period.  Say what you want, I don't give a fuck.  

Why don't you go over there and help out ?




shows what you know...some african americans sympathised and tried to help the japanese effort.

Oh ok we're talking about WWII now  ;D


Yeah but they didn't have weapons/internal intelligence to help Japan/Germany.
And most were afraid of Hitler.

I was going to use Mexicans in my example but they can't do anything right  :P ( now that they can't beat US in soccer  ;D )
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Don Jacob on May 12, 2004, 10:00:26 AM
wow i'm offended... ::)

btw i could give a shit less about soccer, and on the real i'd root for the US over mexico all day.
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: JTSimon on May 12, 2004, 10:08:59 AM
wow i'm offended... ::)

btw i could give a shit less about soccer, and on the real i'd root for the US over mexico all day.

Aren't you Mexican?  ;D Grandpa is not going to be happy.
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: ITW [the irish boy] on May 12, 2004, 10:19:36 AM
This isn't the time to restart the argument, so im not gonna read down thru the posts and get distracted from the reason i came to this topic...

To say this is fucking disgusting shit, absolutely horrible ... the last week has really shown the horrors of a war-torn country, from the US prisoner abuse, to this horrific act. RIP
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: JTSimon on May 12, 2004, 10:22:47 AM
Please change your avatar  ;D
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Montana00 on May 12, 2004, 10:52:14 AM
This isn't the time to restart the argument, so im not gonna read down thru the posts and get distracted from the reason i came to this topic...

To say this is fucking disgusting shit, absolutely horrible ... the last week has really shown the horrors of a war-torn country, from the US prisoner abuse, to this horrific act. RIP

kain you should talk, that avatar gives me nightmares i think that guys gonna kill me  ;D.

O boo hooo. some fucking prisoners were stripped naked and were forced to stand in sexual positions and get their photo taken....i really feel bad for these dumb fucks. Hey i got an idea lets just release them....theyve been through alot. and if we do that maybe theyll release nick berg....o wait they cant they chopped off his fucking head, video taped it and released it

OR why dont they bring back those 4 soliders they killed and ripped apart their body parts, and tied there bodies to bridges???? You say our US Military is sooo horrible, but seriously how can you compare the horrors. These fucking muslim middle easterns are all animals.

maybe youd like this. Why dont our soliders start taking iraqi civilians outta their houses and cutting off their heads?? but seriously theres nothing wrong with that. If the iraqis can do it why cant we? Those fuckers kidnapped an american citizen (not a solider) cut off his head and threw his body on a road.
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: ITW [the irish boy] on May 12, 2004, 11:43:41 AM
Did i not just say it was horrible and disgusting? I hate bastards like that as much as you. Doesnt mean you have to have double standards though, theres been murders and rapes of iraqi prisoners so it is possible to compare horrors.

I AGREE with you that this shit is horrific and those responsible should pay.

The problem i have with the iraqi prisoners issue is that people claim america is the right country to bring democracy to iraq, but those acts of abuse and possibly murder fly in the face of the Geneva conventions, and would not be acceptable in ANY civilised country. By agreeing with that kind of abuse you are agreeing with the kind of logic the bastards who beheaded that guy use when talking about america...

"I could give a fuck about those iraqis, they might have american blood on their hands"
"I could give a fuck about americans, they might have iraqi blood on their hands"

With that kind of thinking your just as bad as them.
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Trauma-san on May 12, 2004, 01:20:15 PM
We need to nuke these motherfuckers.  Kill them, and their bastard children.  We need to do something so FUCKED UP, that people will be pissed about it for the next 50 years, and we won't have to worry about people uttering our names, much less trying to behead our citizens.  I say we start in Fallujah, turn that motherfucker into glass, and then if there is continued resistance, Level all of bagdad.  If there is continued resistance, bomb some of the other back-ass cities I don't even know the name of, and just keep on like that until you don't hear anybody talking anymore.  Then bring it home and wait for the next motherfuckers that want to start shit.  Iran?  Korea? Who wants some? Fuck this P.C. shit, it's US, or THEM, and I'm with US.  
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Montana00 on May 12, 2004, 01:27:52 PM
our country is too centered around not offending/pissing off any other country.

Well news flash All of middle east hates us. And other countries and their citizens hate us for 2 reaons. Cuz we went into a war that wasnt justified, and cuz those fucking abuse photos.

if i was president i would be a hardass mutha fucka, and i would nuke a city in a foriegn country to strike fear into other nations....sounds kinda like communism lol
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: ITW [the irish boy] on May 12, 2004, 01:38:48 PM
or a dictatorship...
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: 7even on May 12, 2004, 02:17:41 PM
lol I dont know what to say and morons like trauma who act like the US has been attacked. I dont even get what ppl like this expect.
do you honestly expect you can attack countries for no reason and torture their citizens, sniper-rifle their kids and nobody will hate you/kill one of your kind for that? nobody can think like that. It's nothin dumb or naive to believe that. It's unrealistic.
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: NobodyButMe on May 12, 2004, 06:36:07 PM
i gotta say, i agree with trauma once again. they need to level this fucking place. these people are so goddam stubborn. the middle east is straight bullshit. what an embarrassment to humanity. they have WARS over TOMBSTONES. they kill each other over a scrap of "HOLY" land. what the fuck? does anyone else notice the contradiction.

traumas solution: eliminate the holy land and it's people. i couldn't agree more.

it's not that i advocate killing people, but there are people that get so caught up in thinking that they're supremely justified that they pose an incredible threat to themselves and others.

look at these people, if it's so honorable to commit suicide, why the fuck is osama still alive? he's a walking contradiction. people need to realize that people can disagree and still live in the same world.

for the most part, i agree with trauma, but sometimes i don't agree and he pisses me off. but does that mean that he should die? what makes me think that i'm so much smarter that i can kill him for a different belief?

and by the way, i don't think it's bad to call ourselves animals. do animals destroy their own and their environment? nah, they live by the 'circle of life.' they kill because they have to. we kill because we're stupid.
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Doggystylin on May 12, 2004, 08:06:21 PM
LOL @ this paranoid psyco nut trauma. Its good that you relieve your anger and frustrations towards the middle east on here cause i know for damn sure your nerdy ass wouldn't come off talkin that shit to a middle eastern in real life.

and btw, i knew you would snap one day, you were always on the verge of insanity.
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on May 12, 2004, 08:08:19 PM
I still don't know if Trauma was playin or not...I hope he was, cuzz if he wasn't I done lost EVERY ounce of respect I ever had 4 him.......
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Don Seer on May 13, 2004, 01:16:12 AM
We need to nuke these motherfuckers.  Kill them, and their bastard children.  We need to do something so FUCKED UP, that people will be pissed about it for the next 50 years, and we won't have to worry about people uttering our names, much less trying to behead our citizens.  I say we start in Fallujah, turn that motherfucker into glass, and then if there is continued resistance, Level all of bagdad.  If there is continued resistance, bomb some of the other back-ass cities I don't even know the name of, and just keep on like that until you don't hear anybody talking anymore.  Then bring it home and wait for the next motherfuckers that want to start shit.  Iran?  Korea? Who wants some? Fuck this P.C. shit, it's US, or THEM, and I'm with US.  

you think... america can't be touched.. haha... you wanna take emm all on?  

how come u didn't mention china.. you know you don't want none of that.. earlier into his administration bush was made to bow down.. korea got chinese connections.. but it depends on the issue.. you'd never make it in politics.
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Trauma-san on May 13, 2004, 06:25:00 AM
I still don't know if Trauma was playin or not...I hope he was, cuzz if he wasn't I done lost EVERY ounce of respect I ever had 4 him.......

You never had any respect for me in the first place.  You dont even know a fuckin' thing about me.  
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Trauma-san on May 13, 2004, 06:25:46 AM
We need to nuke these motherfuckers.  Kill them, and their bastard children.  We need to do something so FUCKED UP, that people will be pissed about it for the next 50 years, and we won't have to worry about people uttering our names, much less trying to behead our citizens.  I say we start in Fallujah, turn that motherfucker into glass, and then if there is continued resistance, Level all of bagdad.  If there is continued resistance, bomb some of the other back-ass cities I don't even know the name of, and just keep on like that until you don't hear anybody talking anymore.  Then bring it home and wait for the next motherfuckers that want to start shit.  Iran?  Korea? Who wants some? Fuck this P.C. shit, it's US, or THEM, and I'm with US.  

you think... america can't be touched.. haha... you wanna take emm all on?  

how come u didn't mention china.. you know you don't want none of that.. earlier into his administration bush was made to bow down.. korea got chinese connections.. but it depends on the issue.. you'd never make it in politics.

O, the difference is, China isn't trying to kill us.  The Middle East is.  MUSHROOM CLOUDS. LOTS OF THEM.  It's time.



You *KNOW it will eventually come to this.  Better now than never, lets kill everyone of these motherfuckers.  
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Don Seer on May 13, 2004, 06:32:50 AM
^ nah u see... its extremists.. giving the middle east bad name.

u cant kill 1000s innocents because of scum amongst them.



the solution isn't easy......

what i think it'll come to is similar to israel, a US friendly/protected govt..
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Trauma-san on May 13, 2004, 06:35:58 AM
It *IS mainly extremists, but the problem is, generally (with the exception of certain U.S. friendly governments like you mentioned in the other thread), everybody over there has a hardon for us, and even the ones who disagree with the terrorists, don't stand up against them.  Look @ the people who let Saddam run rampant for years over there in their own fuckin' country.  These people, in their silence, are shouting at us.  I say we just level the place, fuck 'em all.  We need to do something so fucked up, the rest of the world is afraid to even watch the fucking news.  


P.S. - I don't expect you to agree with me on this, and frankly I don't give a shit.  I'm tired of the U.S. trying to make everybody like us.  FUCK EVERYBODY, we didn't get where we are by trying to make people like us.  
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: eNgIeS on May 13, 2004, 07:04:27 AM
What it comes down to, and I didn't even read the replies, is Fuck an Iraqi citizen.  I want the American Army to go ahead and send the jets in, kill every man, woman, and child in site.  Fuck yall.  I'm sick of the bullshit... an Iraqi is inferior to an American, that's just the way it is now.  You're not even civilized in the Middle east, and as I knew it would be, it's war, motherfuckers.  I say we start leveling major Middle East cities immediately, killing whoever like the uncivilized dogs that they are, and then move on from there.  Lets see how long we get fucked with when there's nobody fucking left over there.  Period.  Say what you want, I don't give a fuck.  

That is just beyond wrong. Yes, there are bad apples not just in Iraq, but in USA, in UK, Australia, Israel etc etc. Does that mean we should just bomb the whole planet since every country has some bad apples

How can you say its alright to bomb & kill a baby? thats pretty sick. I've seen you posting for ages & usually i enjoy your posts, but this is just so wrong, & this is coming from a person who supports aspects of USA taking out Saddam & an Australian who is christian, so its not like i've got a bias in this
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: eNgIeS on May 13, 2004, 07:05:03 AM
People really showed their true colors in this thread...

7even and Maxi go around complaining about human rights and pretending to be champions of the equality, but when something happens that NOBODY can justify, they come out saying things like: I saw this one coming. You really can't blame them. etc...

It just shows your true feelings about the value of human life. Nobody on Dubcc from here on out will take your whining seriously because of your words in this thread. I'll never forget when Max said it was OK for Saddam to Gas his own people. You don't value human life, you hate it and you're little world is so mixed up, that you let politics warp your mind into excusing murder. If you're so compassionate and care about human life so much, why don't you condemn this instead of trying to stick up for it.

You people make me sick. Every single American with half a brain condemned what went on at that Iraqi prison. What happens when the sides are switched? You're looking at it...


I agree with that above
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: eNgIeS on May 13, 2004, 07:10:16 AM
that sucks that an American was beheaded - it was wrong and there is no excuse. i feel sorry for the victims. those guilty should be brought to justice. no one deserves death no matter what they have done.

that sucks that iraqi prisoners are being tortured - it was wrong and there is no excuse. i feel sorry for the victims. those guilty should be brought to justice. no one deserves torture no matter what they have done.
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: smerlus on May 13, 2004, 07:24:07 AM
china isn't shit....the most they can do is send some nukes and that would just be the end of the world

they have the largest army in the world but how will they get all those soldiers to america? read up on china's air force and navy and you will find out that it's a joke compared to ours... most of thier navy ships came from russia after the cold war and they don't have enough qualified people to man them it would be a long battle but the US would win
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on May 13, 2004, 10:53:42 AM
What it comes down to, and I didn't even read the replies, is Fuck an Iraqi citizen.  I want the American Army to go ahead and send the jets in, kill every man, woman, and child in site.  Fuck yall.  I'm sick of the bullshit... an Iraqi is inferior to an American, that's just the way it is now.  You're not even civilized in the Middle east, and as I knew it would be, it's war, motherfuckers.  I say we start leveling major Middle East cities immediately, killing whoever like the uncivilized dogs that they are, and then move on from there.  Lets see how long we get fucked with when there's nobody fucking left over there.  Period.  Say what you want, I don't give a fuck.  


How bout this....FUC YOU AND ANYTHING U STAND FOR....

NOW HEAR ME OUT FOR A SECOND AND TRY 2 UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY.

Ure just another white boy glued to the TV screen....Ure basically sayin MY Family out there is not civilized and U would be happy if Ure 'people' kill em, I swear 2 god I'd beat yo ass senseless if U said that in my face CUZZIN....Start leveling MIDDLE EAST cities?? I thought the war was with Iraq?

Trauma, U HAVE NOT BEEN TO MIDDLE EAST, I HAVE.....U don't understand how it really is, it's portrayed WRONG on U.S media.....you basically been in HICKSVILLE all yur life and been brainwashed with that shit....How can U disagree here?? What do U kno about the middle east?? nothing.

U say why don't the people out there stand up against these terrorists?? HOW? They're scared just as much as we are with the EXCEPTION they they are neighbours with them and we live 100,000 miles away. Put yourself in their shoes for once goddammit. These terrorist groups/gangs ARE rich, America funded them REAL well, CIA showed em how 2 do it all, and they passed that on to their young recruits, therefore they are a FORCE. Those young recruits just don't kno any better because they come from broken families and they are a product of their environment, just like youngsters out here get confused in life and go join gangs etc and commit murders....There's always BEEN a civil war against these muthafucaz in the middle east, but the people can not get too far against em, the government can't either. They're basically too rich, have too many weopens and really don't give a fuck. THEY'RE THE ENEMIES. Not my aunts and uncles who work ALL fuckin day in the factories out there just 2 put food on the table for their kids. Those damm factories they work in get bombed all tha time. THE DEATHS in Middle East is NOT recorded. Do U kno how many people these U.S soldiers are killing??

Not many is against U.S, TRUST ME, I have hundreds of cuzzins out there, they are not against U.S, they are trying HARD AS FUC to get outta there and COME LIVE in U.S. That is their dream, their ultimate goal. It's the mother of all ghettos out there, everyone wants to get out of the ghetto right? just because some people kill in the ghetto doesn't mean they are all murderers rite?

I swear to god my cuzzins out there have good hearts, they ARE NOT participating in those marches out there screaming 'fuck america'. But U kno who is?? 1 of my uncles, know why? his 15 year old son got killed by a U.S soldier, now imagine if yur son got killed like that, what would U do? U HAVE NOTHING in your life, yur son was the only reason to live, and now he's gone, who's to blame? America. So they go against em cuzz they don't kno any better. Put yourself in their shoes. Dats how those marches come about.



KNOW YOUR ENEMY - Rage Against The Machine.


by tha way, would a 'religious' person like yourself be sayin all this shit? It just shows U how religion doesn't necessarily make U a better person. YOU and AL QAEDA are prime examples. U have EVIL intentions and have many demons around U. I just went to church this past Sunday, they actually had a moment of silence and prayed for the innocent victims in Iraq. go figure............








Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Montana00 on May 13, 2004, 02:05:03 PM
Quote
That is just beyond wrong. Yes, there are bad apples not just in Iraq, but in USA, in UK, Australia, Israel etc etc. Does that mean we should just bomb the whole planet since every country has some bad apples

How can you say its alright to bomb & kill a baby? thats pretty sick. I've seen you posting for ages & usually i enjoy your posts, but this is just so wrong, & this is coming from a person who supports aspects of USA taking out Saddam & an Australian who is christian, so its not like i've got a bias in this

first of all, kids are going to learn from there parents. so if you got a bunch of anti american middle eastern fuckers teaching their kids to hate us then eventually they MAY become worse then just someone who hates.

and dont even start this shit about how theirs bad apples everywhere. How many fucking americans do you see strapping bombs to ourselfs and going to differnt countries....walking into resteraunts and blowing ourselves up??? i really would like you to name one. i can guarantee you cant, because were fucking civilized.

so yea we got people like timothy mcvey who bombed the oklahomo federal building, but that was in our own country. It was wrong but its a little different. we got these fucking middle easterns going down to israel and blowing themselves up in the name of allah. And then we got these fuckers taking our planes and crashing them into our buildings killing thousands of people.

i agree with one of you though. Those muslim fuckers who are commiting jihads should wake the fuck up. If osama is so into killing themselves to get all these virgins in heaven THEN WHY ISNT HE DOING IT. Ill tell you one thing if i was offered 70 virgins and a perfect life in heaven.....i would kill myself in an instant.

it just doesnt make sense
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: 7even on May 13, 2004, 04:11:44 PM
What it comes down to, and I didn't even read the replies, is Fuck an Iraqi citizen.  I want the American Army to go ahead and send the jets in, kill every man, woman, and child in site.  Fuck yall.  I'm sick of the bullshit... an Iraqi is inferior to an American, that's just the way it is now.  You're not even civilized in the Middle east, and as I knew it would be, it's war, motherfuckers.  I say we start leveling major Middle East cities immediately, killing whoever like the uncivilized dogs that they are, and then move on from there.  Lets see how long we get fucked with when there's nobody fucking left over there.  Period.  Say what you want, I don't give a fuck.  


How bout this....FUC YOU AND ANYTHING U STAND FOR....

NOW HEAR ME OUT FOR A SECOND AND TRY 2 UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY.

Ure just another white boy glued to the TV screen....Ure basically sayin MY Family out there is not civilized and U would be happy if Ure 'people' kill em, I swear 2 god I'd beat yo ass senseless if U said that in my face CUZZIN....Start leveling MIDDLE EAST cities?? I thought the war was with Iraq?

Trauma, U HAVE NOT BEEN TO MIDDLE EAST, I HAVE.....U don't understand how it really is, it's portrayed WRONG on U.S media.....you basically been in HICKSVILLE all yur life and been brainwashed with that shit....How can U disagree here?? What do U kno about the middle east?? nothing.

U say why don't the people out there stand up against these terrorists?? HOW? They're scared just as much as we are with the EXCEPTION they they are neighbours with them and we live 100,000 miles away. Put yourself in their shoes for once goddammit. These terrorist groups/gangs ARE rich, America funded them REAL well, CIA showed em how 2 do it all, and they passed that on to their young recruits, therefore they are a FORCE. Those young recruits just don't kno any better because they come from broken families and they are a product of their environment, just like youngsters out here get confused in life and go join gangs etc and commit murders....There's always BEEN a civil war against these muthafucaz in the middle east, but the people can not get too far against em, the government can't either. They're basically too rich, have too many weopens and really don't give a fuck. THEY'RE THE ENEMIES. Not my aunts and uncles who work ALL fuckin day in the factories out there just 2 put food on the table for their kids. Those damm factories they work in get bombed all tha time. THE DEATHS in Middle East is NOT recorded. Do U kno how many people these U.S soldiers are killing??

Not many is against U.S, TRUST ME, I have hundreds of cuzzins out there, they are not against U.S, they are trying HARD AS FUC to get outta there and COME LIVE in U.S. That is their dream, their ultimate goal. It's the mother of all ghettos out there, everyone wants to get out of the ghetto right? just because some people kill in the ghetto doesn't mean they are all murderers rite?

I swear to god my cuzzins out there have good hearts, they ARE NOT participating in those marches out there screaming 'fuck america'. But U kno who is?? 1 of my uncles, know why? his 15 year old son got killed by a U.S soldier, now imagine if yur son got killed like that, what would U do? U HAVE NOTHING in your life, yur son was the only reason to live, and now he's gone, who's to blame? America. So they go against em cuzz they don't kno any better. Put yourself in their shoes. Dats how those marches come about.



KNOW YOUR ENEMY - Rage Against The Machine.


by tha way, would a 'religious' person like yourself be sayin all this shit? It just shows U how religion doesn't necessarily make U a better person. YOU and AL QAEDA are prime examples. U have EVIL intentions and have many demons around U. I just went to church this past Sunday, they actually had a moment of silence and prayed for the innocent victims in Iraq. go figure............





Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Montana00 on May 13, 2004, 04:32:28 PM
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HICKSVILLE all yur life and been brainwashed with that shit....How can U disagree here?? What do U kno about the middle east?? nothing.
do you know what a hick is?

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just like youngsters out here get confused in life and go join gangs etc and commit murders
yea but do our fucking gangs strap bombs to themselves and blow up public buildings....no! there not the same.

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THE DEATHS in Middle East is NOT recorded. Do U kno how many people these U.S soldiers are killing??
Hey guess what....Its called WAR. people die whether it be civilian or enemy. these things happen in war its the facts of life. not everything can be perfect in this world. shit happens get over it. and dont try and say this isnt war because boo hoo america just picks on little iraq. BECAUSE THE FACT IS the people in iraq attack our troops while there stationed in iraq. You think that our troops just go around shooting their m16 around killing people? no our solider do get attacked and they do fight back...otherwise there wouldnt be over 750 us solider deaths.

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Not many is against U.S, TRUST ME, I have hundreds of cuzzins out there, they are not against U.S, they are trying HARD AS FUC to get outta there and COME LIVE in U.S.
please tell them not to come to america...how bout any country in europe or canada. theres too many middle easterns coming to america....not to mention every other fucking culture. im not being racist, but its the truth. our country is getting flocked with all these fucking immagrints and there filling up the country.  

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1 of my uncles, know why? his 15 year old son got killed by a U.S soldier, now imagine if yur son got killed like that, what would U do? U HAVE NOTHING in your life, yur son was the only reason to live, and now he's gone, who's to blame? America. So they go against em cuzz they don't kno any better. Put yourself in their shoes. Dats how those marches come about.

yea thats there problem....they dont know any better! ok so their son got killed. i feel bad for them but there again its war...accidents do happen, but you dont just go against america.

WHAT ABOUT THE 754 US SOLIDER DEATHS HUH?????? so according to you all the families of these 754 solders should pick up go to iraq and start blasting the fuck outta these iraqis.....why not? according to you "1 of my uncles, know why? his 15 year old son got killed by a U.S soldier, now imagine if yur son got killed like that, what would U do? U HAVE NOTHING in your life, yur son was the only reason to live, and now he's gone, who's to blame? America." lets just change that last word to Iraq

have a nice day :)



Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: 7even on May 13, 2004, 04:41:18 PM
so about the son of his cousin you dont care.. but about the white american you do care....


nuff said.
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Montana00 on May 13, 2004, 04:45:52 PM
so about the son of his cousin you dont care.. but about the white american you do care....


nuff said.

what are you stupid? dont change my words around

you said. his son was killed by a us solider and thats why hes anti american
then i said so by your logic then the parents of the 754 soliders dead should be allowed to go to iraq and start fighting iraqis because "they lost a child"

i didnt say the white people can do it. im saying according to your logic then white people can too"

but thats stupid logic just cause they lost a child doesnt mean they can do that kind of thing. and thats why the white families arent being stupid.
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: 7even on May 13, 2004, 04:52:09 PM
so about the son of his cousin you dont care.. but about the white american you do care....


nuff said.

what are you stupid? dont change my words around

you said. his son was killed by a us solider and thats why hes anti american
then i said so by your logic then the parents of the 754 soliders dead should be allowed to go to iraq and start fighting iraqis because "they lost a child"

i didnt say the white people can do it. im saying according to your logic then white people can too"

but thats stupid logic just cause they lost a child doesnt mean they can do that kind of thing. and thats why the white families arent being stupid.

it's not about "killing the iraqis" or "killing the americans". for that, the situations are to different, it's just plain different if ppl come to your country and kill around than it is if your son goes to war more or less voluntary and is killed.
it is about feeling hate. some of yall felt hate when you heard about the beheading american. no imagine iraqis came to your country killing your son. you'd be the first ones to feel hate, I tell ya.



Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Montana00 on May 13, 2004, 06:03:21 PM
the principle is still the same
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Doggystylin on May 13, 2004, 08:35:35 PM
rampant, your another idiot, give me your address so i can sock you in the face
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Woodrow on May 13, 2004, 09:26:38 PM
LOL!
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Trauma-san on May 13, 2004, 10:22:05 PM
Damn, I signed on to see what Krayze Eyez Killah had said, and it was just a "Lol".  


Oh well... don't really care to read the other replies, can somebody conservative (read: not an al qaeda symphathizer) tell me if anything notable was said?  


P.S., does anybody (C-Walker?) have a link to a site that  can show me how many of these fuckin' Camel Jockeys we've killed since the war started?  I've got a link (CNN, MSNBC, FOX, etc.) that shows me how many Good Americans have died fighting the cause, but I never get to hear how many of these bastard sons of bitches we've killed.  Why is that?  I understand their lives aren't as important, so it's not really newsworthy when we kill, say, 20 no-names in the middle of a desert somewhere leaving their families orphaned, but still, it'd be nice to know, since I'm constantly bombarded with the death toll of Americans.  Anybody?  I'm gonna estimate we've killed 10,000 or so so far... I hope it's much higher though, but I don't want to get excited.  
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Doggystylin on May 13, 2004, 10:57:24 PM
lol, its funny how trauma can go from this peace loving positive type of guy to a neo-nazi type of guy in a matter of a few posts.
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Trauma-san on May 13, 2004, 10:58:52 PM
I'm still a peace-loving positive type guy.  Your young mind is confused, you don't understand someone who thinks clearly.  
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Doggystylin on May 13, 2004, 11:04:11 PM
I'm still a peace-loving positive type guy.  Your young mind is confused, you don't understand someone who thinks clearly.  

LMAO, Now thats hilarious, making that post in the same thread you made all your hate posts.
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: Trauma-san on May 13, 2004, 11:12:11 PM
101.




Just because someone has hate in them, doesn't mean they don't love peace.  

Just because somebody spouts negativity, doesn't mean that they aren't positive.  

My hate is aimed at those who hate, and my negativity is aimed at those whom are negative.  That's a proper, balanced, mature way to handle your emotions.  

If I was to say, hate Mother Theresa, then yes, I would be hateful and negative.  I can love mother Theresa and hate terrorists, and still claim to be peace loving, and positive.  It's pretty fuckin' simple.  Slow your roll, you're getting embarassed by a being greater than you.  

I'll let you ruminate on the simplicity of that knowledge...
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on May 13, 2004, 11:51:41 PM
So U wishing death on innocent people is a positive mind state? What if I was livin in Middle East right now, would U be wishin death on me?

god's watchin over yo punk ass trauma.

and rampant, just shut tha fuc up wit that childish ass mentality, this grown folks discussion here.....U will never be able 2 put yourself in their shoes, simple & plain.....so don't even speak on it, I kno U luv typing and all but if U ain't got nothin 2 say with a point then don't say nothin.....Ure basically sayin his son is dead, but so what, it's war and he has 2 get over it?? fuc U, U ain't in that man's shoes, what if yur mother was killed by Iraqi soldiers? U gone get over it?? mann, U do not have the simple ability to put yourself in another man's shoes, I feel sorry 4 yo sorry ass...
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: eNgIeS on May 14, 2004, 12:22:31 AM
What it comes down to, and I didn't even read the replies, is Fuck an Iraqi citizen.  I want the American Army to go ahead and send the jets in, kill every man, woman, and child in site.  Fuck yall.  I'm sick of the bullshit... an Iraqi is inferior to an American, that's just the way it is now.  You're not even civilized in the Middle east, and as I knew it would be, it's war, motherfuckers.  I say we start leveling major Middle East cities immediately, killing whoever like the uncivilized dogs that they are, and then move on from there.  Lets see how long we get fucked with when there's nobody fucking left over there.  Period.  Say what you want, I don't give a fuck.  


How bout this....FUC YOU AND ANYTHING U STAND FOR....

NOW HEAR ME OUT FOR A SECOND AND TRY 2 UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY.

Ure just another white boy glued to the TV screen....Ure basically sayin MY Family out there is not civilized and U would be happy if Ure 'people' kill em, I swear 2 god I'd beat yo ass senseless if U said that in my face CUZZIN....Start leveling MIDDLE EAST cities?? I thought the war was with Iraq?

Trauma, U HAVE NOT BEEN TO MIDDLE EAST, I HAVE.....U don't understand how it really is, it's portrayed WRONG on U.S media.....you basically been in HICKSVILLE all yur life and been brainwashed with that shit....How can U disagree here?? What do U kno about the middle east?? nothing.

U say why don't the people out there stand up against these terrorists?? HOW? They're scared just as much as we are with the EXCEPTION they they are neighbours with them and we live 100,000 miles away. Put yourself in their shoes for once goddammit. These terrorist groups/gangs ARE rich, America funded them REAL well, CIA showed em how 2 do it all, and they passed that on to their young recruits, therefore they are a FORCE. Those young recruits just don't kno any better because they come from broken families and they are a product of their environment, just like youngsters out here get confused in life and go join gangs etc and commit murders....There's always BEEN a civil war against these muthafucaz in the middle east, but the people can not get too far against em, the government can't either. They're basically too rich, have too many weopens and really don't give a fuck. THEY'RE THE ENEMIES. Not my aunts and uncles who work ALL fuckin day in the factories out there just 2 put food on the table for their kids. Those damm factories they work in get bombed all tha time. THE DEATHS in Middle East is NOT recorded. Do U kno how many people these U.S soldiers are killing??

Not many is against U.S, TRUST ME, I have hundreds of cuzzins out there, they are not against U.S, they are trying HARD AS FUC to get outta there and COME LIVE in U.S. That is their dream, their ultimate goal. It's the mother of all ghettos out there, everyone wants to get out of the ghetto right? just because some people kill in the ghetto doesn't mean they are all murderers rite?

I swear to god my cuzzins out there have good hearts, they ARE NOT participating in those marches out there screaming 'fuck america'. But U kno who is?? 1 of my uncles, know why? his 15 year old son got killed by a U.S soldier, now imagine if yur son got killed like that, what would U do? U HAVE NOTHING in your life, yur son was the only reason to live, and now he's gone, who's to blame? America. So they go against em cuzz they don't kno any better. Put yourself in their shoes. Dats how those marches come about.



KNOW YOUR ENEMY - Rage Against The Machine.


by tha way, would a 'religious' person like yourself be sayin all this shit? It just shows U how religion doesn't necessarily make U a better person. YOU and AL QAEDA are prime examples. U have EVIL intentions and have many demons around U. I just went to church this past Sunday, they actually had a moment of silence and prayed for the innocent victims in Iraq. go figure............










So U wishing death on innocent people is a positive mind state? What if I was livin in Middle East right now, would U be wishin death on me?

god's watchin over yo punk ass trauma.

and rampant, just shut tha fuc up wit that childish ass mentality, this grown folks discussion here.....U will never be able 2 put yourself in their shoes, simple & plain.....so don't even speak on it, I kno U luv typing and all but if U ain't got nothin 2 say with a point then don't say nothin.....Ure basically sayin his son is dead, but so what, it's war and he has 2 get over it?? fuc U, U ain't in that man's shoes, what if yur mother was killed by Iraqi soldiers? U gone get over it?? mann, U do not have the simple ability to put yourself in another man's shoes, I feel sorry 4 yo sorry ass...

True shit there

I'm a white Australian & even I can see Trauma's logic on this situation is really flawed
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: 7even on May 14, 2004, 05:17:36 AM



Oh well... don't really care to read the other replies, can somebody conservative (read: not an al qaeda symphathizer) tell me if anything notable was said?  



you make the connection.


besides: ppl of other nations being inferior to your ppl by nature = Nazi thinking.. not close nazi thinking... exact nazi thinking. that's what you are.


Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on May 17, 2004, 04:38:04 PM
lol @ Trauma's red neck ass shut up cuzz he knows I speak the truth and nothing but the truth.....never pick sides.....

muthafucaz maaaaaad at the world.....enjoy yo life mann, quit hatin u racist fucks, it ain't good 4 yo chest.....
Title: Re:Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
Post by: eNgIeS on May 17, 2004, 11:17:15 PM
lol @ Trauma's red neck ass shut up cuzz he knows I speak the truth and nothing but the truth.....never pick sides.....

muthafucaz maaaaaad at the world.....enjoy yo life mann, quit hatin u racist fucks, it ain't good 4 yo chest.....