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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: mauzip on June 27, 2004, 05:21:57 AM
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I don't know if this has been done before...
If you could set up your own political party, what would your program look like? Don't make it too long because I still wanna feel like reading everything. Just make a couple of points you'd really wanna spend your time on if you were a politician.
Also, what would you call your political party? Would you like to have politicians in your party who are actual politicians right now?
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The elimination of income tax
The elimination of all entitlement programs (Wellfare, Social Secruity, etc.)
The elimination of foreign aid
The elimination of all government regulation of buissness
The leagalization of all victimless crimes (Drugs, Prostitution, etc.)
Maybe I'll post more later, but this is the just of it.
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so ur government is gonna run on business and purchase tax?
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so ur government is gonna run on business and purchase tax?
Yes
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What about you Mauzip?
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The elimination of income tax
The elimination of all entitlement programs (Wellfare, Social Secruity, etc.)
The elimination of foreign aid
The elimination of all government regulation of buissness
The leagalization of all victimless crimes (Drugs, Prostitution, etc.)
Maybe I'll post more later, but this is the just of it.
This makes me wonder what you're going to do about schools.
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Elimination of a lot of foreign aid.
Much stricter rules for refugees.
Spend more money on security.
Give more money to hospitals.
Death penalty.
The name of my poilitical party? I don't know.
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Elimination of a lot of foreign aid.
Much stricter rules for refugees.
Spend more money on security.
Give more money to hospitals.
Death penalty.
The name of my poilitical party? I don't know.
are you aware of the fact that 97% of United States' foreign aid goes to Israel?
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1) Government regulation (and therefore "free") Schools, Hospitals (Medical Care), Universities, and natural resources.
There would be less money lost due to fraud and we wouldnt have to worry about government's intervention, because they
would already be regulating these areas.
2) Trust-Busting Teddy Roosevelt politics. Because large corporations run America.
3) Less foreign aid to Israel (They get 97% of our aid)
Our help to Israel is a large reason for the Terrorist acts on 9/11.
4) Change electoral college system to a system of Popular votes (I hate the current electoral system)
5) Less foreign intervention (I know this one is vague, but you get my idea).
6) Equal rights to men and women
7) Elimination of Affirmative action (If all schools were funded comparibly we wouldn't need affirmative action in the first place)
8) Elimination of all taxes other than the income tax (Make it one large percentage, around 40 or 42 %). For expedience's sake!
This way we would have less bureaucracy.
9) Government funded exploration of new forms of fuel and less money spent on space exploration.
10) Public works projects (like during the depression) would create lots of jobs.
...........OK i realize this is virtually impossible in modern day America. A little too reminiscent of the pre-depression to depression United States. But if u think about it, the years of 1900-1929 Were some of the best in United States history. Everything was progressing and we had the policy of No Foreign Intervetion in effect. a more socialist government may conflict with a modern day american's psyche, but in my opinion, it is an optimal form of government.
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Elimination of a lot of foreign aid.
Much stricter rules for refugees.
Spend more money on security.
Give more money to hospitals.
Death penalty.
The name of my poilitical party? I don't know.
are you aware of the fact that 97% of United States' foreign aid goes to Israel?
No, I wasn't.
But I was talking about a political party for my own country, not for the United States.
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The elimination of income tax
The elimination of all entitlement programs (Wellfare, Social Secruity, etc.)
The elimination of foreign aid
The elimination of all government regulation of buissness
The leagalization of all victimless crimes (Drugs, Prostitution, etc.)
Maybe I'll post more later, but this is the just of it.
This makes me wonder what you're going to do about schools.
LMAO
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More money to:
> Schools (education)
> Arts and Culture (music, art, etc.)
> Security (police, not army. "so you'll get usefull violence")
> Socialisation (or sumthin'... anyway more money to get to know eachother more, more open discussions.. and more possibilities to get your "luck")
Less money to:
> Foreign countries
> Globalisation of "your" country (the influence of Coca Cola/McDonalds and so on)
> International corporations have to pay more tax
How I would name my party? Erm.. "Freedom & Luck For All" or ehm.. "Joined luck-chasers"
Mr. Mauzip, cool idea of this topic!
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1. Have equal spending on public schools, so that kids in lower class schools get the same education as kids in rich schools. I know that I will catch hell for this, so hear me out first. Also, to tend to the needs of lower class students, give them more school counslers, so that one school counsler is not overwelled by the problems of many students. Many intercity kids are dealing with drug addict mothers, no fathers, abusive homes, so create a way for this children to be found, whoever is needs help no matter the class, but especially in poorer schools, and set up programs to help the student recieve a good education so that they can help themselves when they grow older, and give them alternatives to gangs. That would be the main platform of the party, to reform education and not put all the pressure on the teachers, have a true "No Child Left Behind" bill.
2. Universal Health Care, but through privite companies. The reality of the United States, if money is to be made, then big business will make it. They will not lay down just because it is better to have a working Universal Health Care system. So include them into the mix, and make sure every U.S. citizen has health care, especially children under 18. All children under 18, even non U.S. children, can go to the doctor, free of charge, no matter what. All elders can get free medication, free doctor visits, whatever they need. Elders, children, greatly ill people, and emergency all get first, grade A treatment paid for by the government. Everyone else can have government paid for health care, proved by any company you want, whatever, it's your chose.
3. Increase military pay, increase military and bring back all vet benefits Ronald Reagan took away, but decrease military spending by focusing less on war, and more on peaceful solution. In otherwards, we have the most advance and powerful military in the world. No one can mess with us. If it so happens we get over 50,000,000 people in the military, we will pay them great wages, but we are not trying to send our soldiers to war, unless someone does something like drop towers in our cities, or bombs us, or is sinking our civilian ships. In cases like that, yes, we go to war, but also try to smooth over relationships with other countries surrounding the area, keep peace with the rest of the world, and not start wars over nothing like misguided information about weapons, or what a leader did 20 years ago. Also, end embargos on countries like Cuba, and instead of punishing countries, help them. You get people like Castro madder at you by being their friend than by punishing them. Don't let them get too close, don't give too much trust, but be their friend.
4. Keep the damn budget balanced. Find a way to make sure the budget is balance, and pay off all debt.
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The elimination of income tax
The elimination of all entitlement programs (Wellfare, Social Secruity, etc.)
The elimination of foreign aid
The elimination of all government regulation of buissness
The leagalization of all victimless crimes (Drugs, Prostitution, etc.)
Maybe I'll post more later, but this is the just of it.
This makes me wonder what you're going to do about schools.
Good question. All education would be privatized.
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The Leagalization of Marijuana.
political party : "Free the Weed! party"
or: "Mary Jane for the sane party"
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The Leagalization of Marijuana.
political party : "Free the Weed! party"
or: "Mary Jane for the sane party"
It should be legalized. The government is spending so much money to keep it off the streets of this supposedly free country.
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Good question. All education would be privatized.
So how would kids from families with no money be taught?
Wouldn't this make society even more unequal?
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some stuff off of the top of my head...
pro-abortion (to a limit.. not late term sht.. )
pro birth control
anti death penalty
- govt. backed basic housing for everyone provided at a standard rate. this would lead to reductions in homelessness etc
this would all be of a standard quality but provide only basic facilities.
perhaps to set of standard templates depending upon family size to keep things fair.
e.g. a 2 bed house is for 2 or 3 people, not 1.
e.g. a 1 bed appartmen/house. is for 1 person, maybe 2.
of course privately if people can afford to rent or buy something bigger, they can do what they like.
these wouldnt be crammed together too much.. they'd be arranged in a hexagonal system so to everyones 'rear' is a garden. so housing would be in clusters. these would also take advantage of modern water recycling, and energy collection techniques.
- govt. provided health, dental care, education at all levels BUT alternatives are allowed to exist if people can afford to go private.
- transport would not be govt funded. (uk govt has lost major money this way in the past, esp through the rail system).
would up the taxes for people who own more than one vehicle as a deterrent.
- abolish the seperate govt agencies police, army, navy, and air force and all combine them into one force. a mergnig of what i see as rival establishments into a more effective force.
- govt. sponsored jobs program. where the unemployed *have* to work for the govt if they dont have a job.
perhaps in my 'new govt system' or something.
- prisoners would work to keep themselves where they are, or opt for education (where they'd still have to work a bit as well)
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Good question. All education would be privatized.
So how would kids from families with no money be taught?
Wouldn't this make society even more unequal?
lol his ideas are of course not thought through at all. no need to embarrass him with more questions which show the nonsense in these ideas.
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Good question. All education would be privatized.
So how would kids from families with no money be taught?
Wouldn't this make society even more unequal?
lol his ideas are of course not thought through at all. no need to embarrass him with more questions which show the nonsense in these ideas.
Why do you try and discredit somebody who you don't agree with?
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Good question. All education would be privatized.
So how would kids from families with no money be taught?
Wouldn't this make society even more unequal?
lol his ideas are of course not thought through at all. no need to embarrass him with more questions which show the nonsense in these ideas.
Why do you try and discredit somebody who you don't agree with?
it's been about 2 years... and I finally got somebody on my nuts!!! :D
first - I didnt insult him or anything, in fact I told ppl they shouldnt mock on him no more.. which is pretty kind I think.
2nd - at least I didnt proclaim he doesnt shower, and I also didnt make a whole thread about it.
what's next? you gonna tell me my sig is too large?
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I'm not "mocking on" you, just asking a question.
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Regarding my own country,the Netherlands:
More strictness regarding foreigners and less procedures for them,so less bureaucracy
Less foreign aid (especially to the Netherlands' Antilles).
More powerful police force.
Education more pointed at teaching kids something about the world they live in,meaning more education in history,geography,biology and even theology (though I'm an atheist,as I'm sure most of you know...it would increase tolerance though if kids knew more about other's belief.)
No positive discrimination of ethnic minorities
free medical care
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Oh yeah, well my programme was also for my country (The Netherlands)... A lot of Dutch people here :P (of niet dan jongens!)
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absoluut helemaal zeker wel! Pleezbaleevit! 8)
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Good question. All education would be privatized.
So how would kids from families with no money be taught?
Wouldn't this make society even more unequal?
So this never got answered.
Why?
Because you made up a bunch of shit and you couldn't back it up so you ran away. And Engel leaps to his defence but still doesn't attempt to answer the question.
If your government made all education privatised, then kids from poor families might as well go out to work at 8 instead of trying to get educated.
You stupid dickhead.
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some stuff off of the top of my head...
pro-abortion (to a limit.. not late term sht.. )
pro birth control
anti death penalty
- govt. backed basic housing for everyone provided at a standard rate. this would lead to reductions in homelessness etc
this would all be of a standard quality but provide only basic facilities.
perhaps to set of standard templates depending upon family size to keep things fair.
e.g. a 2 bed house is for 2 or 3 people, not 1.
e.g. a 1 bed appartmen/house. is for 1 person, maybe 2.
of course privately if people can afford to rent or buy something bigger, they can do what they like.
these wouldnt be crammed together too much.. they'd be arranged in a hexagonal system so to everyones 'rear' is a garden. so housing would be in clusters. these would also take advantage of modern water recycling, and energy collection techniques.
- govt. provided health, dental care, education at all levels BUT alternatives are allowed to exist if people can afford to go private.
- transport would not be govt funded. (uk govt has lost major money this way in the past, esp through the rail system).
would up the taxes for people who own more than one vehicle as a deterrent.
- abolish the seperate govt agencies police, army, navy, and air force and all combine them into one force. a mergnig of what i see as rival establishments into a more effective force.
- govt. sponsored jobs program. where the unemployed *have* to work for the govt if they dont have a job.
perhaps in my 'new govt system' or something.
- prisoners would work to keep themselves where they are, or opt for education (where they'd still have to work a bit as well)
Shit, the tax rate would be atrocious.
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Still dodging.
Pussy.
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Schools would reach a competitive nature. Schools wouldn't cost thousands of dollars like private schools do today. Education wouldn't be regulated to fit a certain standard. Trade schools and apprenticeships would be much more common. With the competitive low cost of these schools parents who wish to buss there kids to certain learning facilities would be able to afford it.
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Schools would reach a competitive nature. Schools wouldn't cost thousands of dollars like private schools do today. Education wouldn't be regulated to fit a certain standard. Trade schools and apprenticeships would be much more common. With the competitive low cost of these schools parents who wish to buss there kids to certain learning facilities would be able to afford it.
Looks like Jay ay beee is the one dodging
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Education wouldn't be regulated to fit a certain standard.
What a great way to improve our already wonderful system.
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Schools would reach a competitive nature. Schools wouldn't cost thousands of dollars like private schools do today. Education wouldn't be regulated to fit a certain standard. Trade schools and apprenticeships would be much more common. With the competitive low cost of these schools parents who wish to buss there kids to certain learning facilities would be able to afford it.
The schools that take on richer kids would get more money. Correct? So society would be uneven because the rich would keep getting better chances in life. You're just trying to insure that the elite continue to be at the top.
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some stuff off of the top of my head...
pro-abortion (to a limit.. not late term sht.. )
pro birth control
anti death penalty
- govt. backed basic housing for everyone provided at a standard rate. this would lead to reductions in homelessness etc
this would all be of a standard quality but provide only basic facilities.
perhaps to set of standard templates depending upon family size to keep things fair.
e.g. a 2 bed house is for 2 or 3 people, not 1.
e.g. a 1 bed appartmen/house. is for 1 person, maybe 2.
of course privately if people can afford to rent or buy something bigger, they can do what they like.
these wouldnt be crammed together too much.. they'd be arranged in a hexagonal system so to everyones 'rear' is a garden. so housing would be in clusters. these would also take advantage of modern water recycling, and energy collection techniques.
- govt. provided health, dental care, education at all levels BUT alternatives are allowed to exist if people can afford to go private.
- transport would not be govt funded. (uk govt has lost major money this way in the past, esp through the rail system).
would up the taxes for people who own more than one vehicle as a deterrent.
- abolish the seperate govt agencies police, army, navy, and air force and all combine them into one force. a mergnig of what i see as rival establishments into a more effective force.
- govt. sponsored jobs program. where the unemployed *have* to work for the govt if they dont have a job.
perhaps in my 'new govt system' or something.
- prisoners would work to keep themselves where they are, or opt for education (where they'd still have to work a bit as well)
Shit, the tax rate would be atrocious.
why?
didn't you notice that people have to pay rent for these govt houses?
outside the normal 'taxes' the govt functions NOT as the giver (communism) but as the enabler and provider of basic facilities. its a govt run business.
this means apart from the usual govt things, the govt is also providing (at cost) a good standard of living to its citizens and regulating the cost of living in society. something which right now it doesnt, and which affects economics. having predictable figures in those kind of areas allows for better control of the financial state of the country.
also in society people are often trapped by circumstance. standardising living quality and costs across the board its a good thing in my eyes.
what the govt gains is a massive revenue from the rent many people pay anyway to private business's these days.
in govt the profits dont go into some fat cats pocket, they go back into the system.
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Schools would reach a competitive nature. Schools wouldn't cost thousands of dollars like private schools do today. Education wouldn't be regulated to fit a certain standard. Trade schools and apprenticeships would be much more common. With the competitive low cost of these schools parents who wish to buss there kids to certain learning facilities would be able to afford it.
The schools that take on richer kids would get more money. Correct? So society would be uneven because the rich would keep getting better chances in life. You're just trying to insure that the elite continue to be at the top.
absolutely. its the ultimate selfish system.
a super clever "poor kid" would be excluded from going to a school/uni to train him to his full potential.
also lack of regulation in education quality is ludicrous. you'd have things bad quality doctors coming out of the system, just because their daddy's could afford to put them in a med school that didnt have high standards.
'trade schools' went out with the ark.. who trains for a trade these days? you'll find that in the old days trade schools actually cost a hell of a lot, not less and people had to do exceptionally long apprenticeships.
your system keeps the poor poor, and the rich rich.
competition between schools always favours the rich, because beyond actuall skill the money or (as we see over here more) blue blood will give you those options.
money doesnt make you any better, or more clever. what it does is give you more options if you use it correctly.
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Schools would reach a competitive nature. Schools wouldn't cost thousands of dollars like private schools do today. Education wouldn't be regulated to fit a certain standard. Trade schools and apprenticeships would be much more common. With the competitive low cost of these schools parents who wish to buss there kids to certain learning facilities would be able to afford it.
The schools that take on richer kids would get more money. Correct? So society would be uneven because the rich would keep getting better chances in life. You're just trying to insure that the elite continue to be at the top.
absolutely. its the ultimate selfish system.
a super clever "poor kid" would be excluded from going to a school/uni to train him to his full potential.
also lack of regulation in education quality is ludicrous. you'd have things bad quality doctors coming out of the system, just because their daddy's could afford to put them in a med school that didnt have high standards.
'trade schools' went out with the ark.. who trains for a trade these days? you'll find that in the old days trade schools actually cost a hell of a lot, not less and people had to do exceptionally long apprenticeships.
your system keeps the poor poor, and the rich rich.
competition between schools always favours the rich, because beyond actuall skill the money or (as we see over here more) blue blood will give you those options.
money doesnt make you any better, or more clever. what it does is give you more options if you use it correctly.
exactly. this system sucks. if you look at the bigger picture, regarding evolution, this system leads to mutation instead of evolution. because the dumb rich kids will make it more far in life than the smart competent poor ones. which evolutes to a DUMBER SOCIETY, DUE TO SCHOOLS. (!!!)