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Title: Remember when America made Iraq destroy its missles?
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on July 05, 2004, 04:11:15 PM
...and then it attacked it anyways?  :-[
Title: Re: Remember when America made Iraq destroy its missles?
Post by: mauzip on July 05, 2004, 04:30:44 PM
Remember when you didn't have brain damage yet?
Title: Re: Remember when America made Iraq destroy its missles?
Post by: Montana00 on July 05, 2004, 05:47:17 PM
...and then it attacked it anyways?  :-[

and.......?
Title: Re: Remember when America made Iraq destroy its missles?
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on July 05, 2004, 07:48:38 PM
Remember when you didn't have brain damage yet?

I was gonna punk u, but then i figure Ill let u punk your self by stating your "opinion."

Are you attackin me because u have nothing to contribute to the thread? Are u co-signing America's cowardice?
Do u agree with American attempts to disarm Saddam knowing full well they were gonna attack him anyways?

Should I even expect anything useful from u regarding this war on Iraq? Are u worth even talkin too?
Title: Re: Remember when America made Iraq destroy its missles?
Post by: Maradona on July 05, 2004, 10:32:13 PM
Remember when you didn't have brain damage yet?

I was gonna punk u, but then i figure Ill let u punk your self by stating your "opinion."

Are you attackin me because u have nothing to contribute to the thread? Are u co-signing America's cowardice?
Do u agree with American attempts to disarm Saddam knowing full well they were gonna attack him anyways?

Should I even expect anything useful from u regarding this war on Iraq? Are u worth even talkin too?

Go easy on the dumb ones, they have difficulty dealing with things like this...
Title: Re: Remember when America made Iraq destroy its missles?
Post by: Don Jacob on July 06, 2004, 01:43:29 AM
you know what i'd feel sorry for Iraq if we went in there didn't find any weapons of mass destruction took all their oil and had gas prices of .99 and killed all their people , and therer were no suicide bombers killing peace soldiers and civilians, didn't have jack asses chopping off people's heads and tying limbs to bridges, and last but no least if 40% of the iraqi poeple polled didn't say they'd free saddam.

i seriously would feel sorry for going to war....but then there's all this ^ SHIT going on, and i honestly don't care...like many of you muslums didn't/don't care about pat tillman, the decapitated men, and thd 3,000 dead in NY. i care as much as you guys for all the same reasons but in reverse.

also it's not like we just went to war unexpected overnight...if i do remember correctly when the inspectors wanted to go into iraq sadam kept telling them ...no no i need more time...what was he doing? spring cleaning?!? also we DID give saddam a fucking deadline, and he actually could have prevented this war. why would you try to toy with a dude who sent more poeple to the chair as governor than anyone else in texas history....Bush doesn't fuck around when it comes to violence why provoke the dude?

my whole point? i can careless now to the mid easts feelings......hitting some planes into the pentagon and WTC is NOT going better the situation over there... what a dumbass move
Title: Re: Remember when America made Iraq destroy its missles?
Post by: Don Rizzle on July 06, 2004, 02:02:55 AM
u do know saddam wasn't behind WTC right? funny hows its only americans who have that view no other country thinks iraq was involved WTC. and jake what was the reason for attacking BEFORE the inspectors finished their job and no "smoking gun" was found?
Title: Re: Remember when America made Iraq destroy its missles?
Post by: mauzip on July 06, 2004, 02:48:07 AM
Remember when you didn't have brain damage yet?

I was gonna punk u, but then i figure Ill let u punk your self by stating your "opinion."

Are you attackin me because u have nothing to contribute to the thread? Are u co-signing America's cowardice?
Do u agree with American attempts to disarm Saddam knowing full well they were gonna attack him anyways?

Should I even expect anything useful from u regarding this war on Iraq? Are u worth even talkin too?

No, I just think you are an extremist. I remember that you said that there was nothing better than coming home and reading news about a beheaded American.
Title: Re: Remember when America made Iraq destroy its missles?
Post by: Don Rizzle on July 06, 2004, 03:07:23 AM
Remember when you didn't have brain damage yet?

I was gonna punk u, but then i figure Ill let u punk your self by stating your "opinion."

Are you attackin me because u have nothing to contribute to the thread? Are u co-signing America's cowardice?
Do u agree with American attempts to disarm Saddam knowing full well they were gonna attack him anyways?

Should I even expect anything useful from u regarding this war on Iraq? Are u worth even talkin too?

No, I just think you are an extremist. I remember that you said that there was nothing better than coming home and reading news about a beheaded American.
i think he said dead american soldiers (fighting a war he is opposed to). u get ur knickers in a twist over that whilst everyone else is screaming nuke the middle east kill all muslims.i'm not defending what he said i just don't think people can really critise what he has said when they say the same stuff or worse about muslims. this board is full of hypocripts who have no ability to look at the bigger picture.
Title: Re: Remember when America made Iraq destroy its missles?
Post by: mauzip on July 06, 2004, 03:23:29 AM
^^I agree with that. I myself, I don't speak about problems I don't have an opinion of or where I have to type a 3 page essay for to state my opinion. But whatever he said exactly, it was wrong. So fucking wrong. And this guy actually means it, while people like AG for example just say things while they don't know shit about a problem.
Title: Re: Remember when America made Iraq destroy its missles?
Post by: 7even on July 06, 2004, 04:56:47 AM
u do know saddam wasn't behind WTC right? funny hows its only americans who have that view no other country thinks iraq was involved WTC. and jake what was the reason for attacking BEFORE the inspectors finished their job and no "smoking gun" was found?

yeah that IS strange as fuck, I guess Americans generalize muslims. They are racists.

what's even crazier about the weapon destroy stuff.. that's as much of a bunch of neo-con cowards as it can get. disarm a country and then leading war against them LOL!!!!
I mean what else couldve been the reason? since Iraq doing what America wanted hasnt change their plans at all.. sick fucks.
Title: Re: Remember when America made Iraq destroy its missles?
Post by: mauzip on July 06, 2004, 05:17:24 AM
Dude, don't generalize. Of course there are racists in America, but the same thing counts for the rest of the world.
Title: Re: Remember when America made Iraq destroy its missles?
Post by: 7even on July 06, 2004, 05:26:11 AM
Dude, don't generalize. Of course there are racists in America, but the same thing counts for the rest of the world.

lol then tell me why Americans always take 9/11 to justify the war in Iraq??! there is no connection, besides both times there are Middle Eastern Arabs somehow involved. And if that is the reason, there is no other word than racist for these dudes. And I mean no other.
Title: Re: Remember when America made Iraq destroy its missles?
Post by: mauzip on July 06, 2004, 06:20:34 AM
They don't and you know that. It seems like you only wanna hear what you wanna hear.

And please don't talk like that. You make it seem like every American thinks/is the same :-\
Title: Re: Remember when America made Iraq destroy its missles?
Post by: 7even on July 06, 2004, 06:23:36 AM
as a matter of course I dont mean every American. But im not that P.C. - addicted that I always have to state that in an extra sentence.
Title: Re: Remember when America made Iraq destroy its missles?
Post by: Montana00 on July 06, 2004, 08:34:17 AM
not all americans believe that saddam was connected to 9/11.... i'm proof   ;D

Of course he had nothing to do with it. the 9/11 commission even said that iraq had nothing to do with it, they also said that bin laden made contact with iraq asking if they could build some al-queda camps in iraq and iraq said no. lol so that basically ruins bush's "they support terrorists" theory.
Title: Re: Remember when America made Iraq destroy its missles?
Post by: smerlus on July 06, 2004, 08:40:30 AM
once again, america is faulted for it's military tactics....should we have gave them some weapons to fight back with?

the war with iraq went rather splendidly, there weren't too many casualties....it's after the war that started racking them up
Title: Re: Remember when America made Iraq destroy its missles?
Post by: 7even on July 06, 2004, 08:43:24 AM
once again, america is faulted for it's military tactics....should we have gave them some weapons to fight back with?

the war with iraq went rather splendidly, there weren't too many casualties....it's after the war that started racking them up
so claiming you wont start a war if the opponent destroys his weapons and sending inspectors in to look for weapons,
and then starting a war nevertheless although the opponent destroyed the weapons and the inspectors havent found shit,
is right? MORON!
Title: Re: Remember when America made Iraq destroy its missles?
Post by: mauzip on July 06, 2004, 08:46:03 AM
^^say what you want, but Iraq doesn't have a dictator anymore. That the situation over there is really fucked up right now, is a different story.
Title: Re: Remember when America made Iraq destroy its missles?
Post by: smerlus on July 06, 2004, 08:46:08 AM
once again, america is faulted for it's military tactics....should we have gave them some weapons to fight back with?

the war with iraq went rather splendidly, there weren't too many casualties....it's after the war that started racking them up
so claiming you wont start a war if the opponent destroys his weapons and sending inspectors in to look for weapons,
and then starting a war nevertheless although the opponent destroyed the weapons and the inspectors havent found shit,
is right? MORON!


didn't say it was right, but speaking on military tactics, it was brilliant
Title: Re: Remember when America made Iraq destroy its missles?
Post by: 7even on July 06, 2004, 08:47:09 AM
once again, america is faulted for it's military tactics....should we have gave them some weapons to fight back with?

the war with iraq went rather splendidly, there weren't too many casualties....it's after the war that started racking them up
so claiming you wont start a war if the opponent destroys his weapons and sending inspectors in to look for weapons,
and then starting a war nevertheless although the opponent destroyed the weapons and the inspectors havent found shit,
is right? MORON!

didn't say it was right, but speaking on military tactics, it was brilliant

what you're doing right now is like defending a smart serial killer. you're a disgusting person.
Title: Re: Remember when America made Iraq destroy its missles?
Post by: smerlus on July 06, 2004, 08:49:33 AM
once again, america is faulted for it's military tactics....should we have gave them some weapons to fight back with?

the war with iraq went rather splendidly, there weren't too many casualties....it's after the war that started racking them up
so claiming you wont start a war if the opponent destroys his weapons and sending inspectors in to look for weapons,
and then starting a war nevertheless although the opponent destroyed the weapons and the inspectors havent found shit,
is right? MORON!

didn't say it was right, but speaking on military tactics, it was brilliant

what you're doing right now is like defending a smart serial killer. you're a disgusting person.

you have the wrong definition of serial killer, it's more along the lines of mass murderer
Title: Re: Remember when America made Iraq destroy its missles?
Post by: 7even on July 06, 2004, 08:49:48 AM
^^say what you want, but Iraq doesn't have a dictator anymore. That the situation over there is really fucked up right now, is a different story.

this again is like this:
Bully A punches Kid.
Bully B kills Bully A.
Bully B punches Kid.

Props Bully B.

 ::)
Title: Re: Remember when America made Iraq destroy its missles?
Post by: 7even on July 06, 2004, 08:51:13 AM
once again, america is faulted for it's military tactics....should we have gave them some weapons to fight back with?

the war with iraq went rather splendidly, there weren't too many casualties....it's after the war that started racking them up
so claiming you wont start a war if the opponent destroys his weapons and sending inspectors in to look for weapons,
and then starting a war nevertheless although the opponent destroyed the weapons and the inspectors havent found shit,
is right? MORON!

didn't say it was right, but speaking on military tactics, it was brilliant

what you're doing right now is like defending a smart serial killer. you're a disgusting person.

you have the wrong definition of serial killer, it's more along the lines of mass murderer

I just wanted to pick a disgusting dude noone is supposed to defend.. that you see a methaphorical relation to your country tells us how fucking right I am and how much you know it.
Title: Re: Remember when America made Iraq destroy its missles?
Post by: smerlus on July 06, 2004, 08:51:23 AM
^^say what you want, but Iraq doesn't have a dictator anymore. That the situation over there is really fucked up right now, is a different story.

this again is like this:
Bully A punches Kid.
Bully B kills Bully A.
Bully B punches Kid.

Props Bully B.

 ::)

that's rather simplistic and one sided, don't you think?
Title: Re: Remember when America made Iraq destroy its missles?
Post by: smerlus on July 06, 2004, 08:52:48 AM
once again, america is faulted for it's military tactics....should we have gave them some weapons to fight back with?

the war with iraq went rather splendidly, there weren't too many casualties....it's after the war that started racking them up
so claiming you wont start a war if the opponent destroys his weapons and sending inspectors in to look for weapons,
and then starting a war nevertheless although the opponent destroyed the weapons and the inspectors havent found shit,
is right? MORON!

didn't say it was right, but speaking on military tactics, it was brilliant

what you're doing right now is like defending a smart serial killer. you're a disgusting person.

you have the wrong definition of serial killer, it's more along the lines of mass murderer

I just wanted to pick a disgusting dude noone is supposed to defend.. that you see a methaphorical relation to your country tells us how fucking right I am and how much you know it.

no, you're entitled to your own opinion, it's just that you picked the wrong word to describe it and i just helped you out
Title: Re: Remember when America made Iraq destroy its missles?
Post by: 7even on July 06, 2004, 08:54:50 AM
^^say what you want, but Iraq doesn't have a dictator anymore. That the situation over there is really fucked up right now, is a different story.

this again is like this:
Bully A punches Kid.
Bully B kills Bully A.
Bully B punches Kid.

Props Bully B.

 ::)

that's rather simplistic and one sided, don't you think?

talking to yall Pro-Iraq-War-Dudes it's my first intend to keep it simple.
Cause I dont get how you dont get how wrong this is, and since all the arguments been told several times before with no noticeable effect on you, giving elementary school visualizations is probably the last resort.
Title: Re: Remember when America made Iraq destroy its missles?
Post by: smerlus on July 06, 2004, 09:00:49 AM
^^say what you want, but Iraq doesn't have a dictator anymore. That the situation over there is really fucked up right now, is a different story.

this again is like this:
Bully A punches Kid.
Bully B kills Bully A.
Bully B punches Kid.

Props Bully B.

 ::)

that's rather simplistic and one sided, don't you think?

talking to yall Pro-Iraq-War-Dudes it's my first intend to keep it simple.
Cause I dont get how you dont get how wrong this is, and since all the arguments been told several times before with no noticeable effect on you, giving elementary school visualizations is probably the last resort.

my thought is, it's too late to change it now and it's too early to see if something good will come from it...so what good is all your arguing? find something creative to do with your time, like write a journal about how fucked up america is and then put it in a time capsule or something
Title: Re: Remember when America made Iraq destroy its missles?
Post by: 7even on July 06, 2004, 09:08:21 AM
why do you digress and joke around? is it so hard to say how much I rule? well, I understand. you dont have to admit that. but you could at least stop the bullshitting. I for my part am done with that conversation. have a nice day.
*puts on a happy face as a act of grace*
(http://www.kvfond.org/images/bu011782_man-with-smilie.gif)
Title: Re: Remember when America made Iraq destroy its missles?
Post by: Woodrow on July 06, 2004, 12:09:30 PM

I guess Americans generalize muslims. They are racists.



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

So you complain about people making generalizations, then you paint a population as racist.

How somebody as ignorant and obviously biased as you got to be moderator blows my mind.

Also, Muslims aren't a race.
Title: Re: Remember when America made Iraq destroy its missles?
Post by: 7even on July 06, 2004, 12:28:28 PM
I referred to the Americans Don Rizzle was referring to. And you can keep that Muslims arent a race to yourself, cause you know what it's all about. And it's not ignorant or biased. Maybe I should have written a "these" in front of "Americans" but I also explained why I didnt to mauzip or whoever that was.
Title: Re: Remember when America made Iraq destroy its missles?
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on July 06, 2004, 11:03:24 PM
Boo some of these responses. Till the day I die, I will never understand how one could support this war.

And Jake, man u totally suckin up what these people are feeding u. You actually think Saddam had a way out? He was gettin it the day Bush took that oath/

And Mauzip u dumb ape, again u are resorting to lies to try to defame my opinion which u cannot say anything about. I am happy every time any American soldier dies in Iraq.
Title: Re: Remember when America made Iraq destroy its missles?
Post by: Don Jacob on July 06, 2004, 11:19:27 PM


And Jake, man u totally suckin up what these people are feeding u. You actually think Saddam had a way out? He was gettin it the day Bush took that oath/



we don't know that, bush could've tried to start a war but it would've had to gone through congress first.  probably the only reason why congress gave permission for iraq now was the fact that 9-11 was still fresh in their minds....the whole war on terror, the supossed proof, and saddams lack of cooperation.

america gave saddam an ultimatum ,saddam didn't cooperate, and acted like he had shit to hide . YOU DON"T DO THAT WHEN YOU GOT A DUDE LIKE BUSH IN OFFICE WHO SENT MORE PEOPLE TO THE CHAIR IN TEXAS SINCE LORD KNOWS WHO!!! what a fucking dumbass....he got what he derseved! and so did all these people and groups in the mid east who think that they some kinda liberation from america by blowin shit up and cutting off heads and arms and shit. Dumbass moves.

Bin Laden is a fucking dumbass....9-11 just set his cause back 25 years
Title: Re: Remember when America made Iraq destroy its missles?
Post by: mauzip on July 06, 2004, 11:52:12 PM
Boo some of these responses. Till the day I die, I will never understand how one could support this war.

And Jake, man u totally suckin up what these people are feeding u. You actually think Saddam had a way out? He was gettin it the day Bush took that oath/

And Mauzip u dumb ape, again u are resorting to lies to try to defame my opinion which u cannot say anything about. I am happy every time any American soldier dies in Iraq.

What the hell dude? Are you trying to deny you said that? I could even look up the post where you said that :-\ Please die and don't take anyone with you on your way to heaven.
Title: Re: Remember when America made Iraq destroy its missles?
Post by: Maradona on July 07, 2004, 12:04:57 AM


And Jake, man u totally suckin up what these people are feeding u. You actually think Saddam had a way out? He was gettin it the day Bush took that oath/



we don't know that, bush could've tried to start a war but it would've had to gone through congress first.  probably the only reason why congress gave permission for iraq now was the fact that 9-11 was still fresh in their minds....the whole war on terror, the supossed proof, and saddams lack of cooperation.

america gave saddam an ultimatum ,saddam didn't cooperate, and acted like he had shit to hide . YOU DON"T DO THAT WHEN YOU GOT A DUDE LIKE BUSH IN OFFICE WHO SENT MORE PEOPLE TO THE CHAIR IN TEXAS SINCE LORD KNOWS WHO!!! what a fucking dumbass....he got what he derseved! and so did all these people and groups in the mid east who think that they some kinda liberation from america by blowin shit up and cutting off heads and arms and shit. Dumbass moves.

Bin Laden is a fucking dumbass....9-11 just set his cause back 25 years


Actually, as much as I disagree with Bin Laden, I can't say he's a dumbass. Do you really think his cause has been set back 25 years? I mean think about it, before 9/11 how many attacks did you hear of? How many successful attacks by these terrorists have we witnessed since? They're actually multiplying in numbers as we speak. I don't know, shit could get scary.
Title: Re: Remember when America made Iraq destroy its missles?
Post by: Don Jacob on July 07, 2004, 02:56:42 AM
bin laden's objective is to rid the mid east of the united states' presense in the mid east as well as  Israel's.........he set back 25  years with that shit
Title: Re: Remember when America made Iraq destroy its missles?
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on July 07, 2004, 06:14:12 PM
I agree with the both of you to a certain degree.

If Bin Ladens cause was truly Muslim emancipation and the whole 9 yards, then his cause is set back.

Muslim oppostion to American policies and the expression of this opposition is set back 25 years, because anti americanism is now associated with pro-terrorism.

However, Bin Ladens cause is to go to war with America and have every westerner killed in the name of the cause, so he has succeeded. This situation right now is exactly where Bin Laden wanted to be. Bin Laden was never about reppin Islam.

And Mauzip, again I AM HAPPY EVERY TIME AN AMERICAN SOLDIER DIES IN IRAQ. Not every time an American aid worker catches it u idiot.

I see the difference moron.
Title: Re: Remember when America made Iraq destroy its missles?
Post by: eS El Duque on July 07, 2004, 06:25:51 PM
Dude, don't generalize. Of course there are racists in America, but the same thing counts for the rest of the world.

lol then tell me why Americans always take 9/11 to justify the war in Iraq??! there is no connection, besides both times there are Middle Eastern Arabs somehow involved. And if that is the reason, there is no other word than racist for these dudes. And I mean no other.


lol..racists? dude..YOU DO KNOW THERE ARE MUSLIMS IN AMERICA...right? ;D
Title: Re: Remember when America made Iraq destroy its missles?
Post by: Montana00 on July 07, 2004, 06:34:01 PM
I agree with the both of you to a certain degree.

If Bin Ladens cause was truly Muslim emancipation and the whole 9 yards, then his cause is set back.

Muslim oppostion to American policies and the expression of this opposition is set back 25 years, because anti americanism is now associated with pro-terrorism.

However, Bin Ladens cause is to go to war with America and have every westerner killed in the name of the cause, so he has succeeded. This situation right now is exactly where Bin Laden wanted to be. Bin Laden was never about reppin Islam.

And Mauzip, again I AM HAPPY EVERY TIME AN AMERICAN SOLDIER DIES IN IRAQ. Not every time an American aid worker catches it u idiot.

I see the difference moron.
I just want you to know that the soliders dont want to be there. over 90% of the soliders killed are 18-22 years of age. You have to be a sick human being to be happy about that.
Title: Re: Remember when America made Iraq destroy its missles?
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on July 07, 2004, 06:38:44 PM
I agree with the both of you to a certain degree.

If Bin Ladens cause was truly Muslim emancipation and the whole 9 yards, then his cause is set back.

Muslim oppostion to American policies and the expression of this opposition is set back 25 years, because anti americanism is now associated with pro-terrorism.

However, Bin Ladens cause is to go to war with America and have every westerner killed in the name of the cause, so he has succeeded. This situation right now is exactly where Bin Laden wanted to be. Bin Laden was never about reppin Islam.

And Mauzip, again I AM HAPPY EVERY TIME AN AMERICAN SOLDIER DIES IN IRAQ. Not every time an American aid worker catches it u idiot.

I see the difference moron.
I just want you to know that the soliders dont want to be there. over 90% of the soliders killed are 18-22 years of age. You have to be a sick human being to be happy about that.

Unlike your uninformed, uneducated ignorant ass, Im looking at the big picture. America got into a war it shouldnt of. Invaded a country it shouldnt have. So I would like America punished for this crime. It aint personal, I dont hate Corporal X or Capt Y, i just hate their uniform, their forces and their presence.
Title: Re: Remember when America made Iraq destroy its missles?
Post by: infinite59 on July 07, 2004, 10:07:47 PM


However, Bin Ladens cause is to go to war with America and have every westerner killed in the name of the cause, so he has succeeded. This situation right now is exactly where Bin Laden wanted to be. Bin Laden was never about reppin Islam.


No, actuallly that is totally false. 

The stated objectives of Bin Laden and his associates in the news immediately following 9-11 was as follows:

1.  That Isreal move back to it's pre-67 borders
2.  That America remove it's presence in Saudi Arabia
3.  That America remove it's sanctions on Iraq.

Even famous Jewish author Noam Chosky discussed these details and said these were reasonable demands from Bin Laden and that the U.S. should honor them, although he said he disagreed with Bin Laden's method of achieving these ends.

-Not to mention, Bin Laden has publicly and officially offered peace to Spain for removing it's support for the U.S. foriegn policy, and Bin Laden was in the news on Al-Jezeera not long ago offering peace to the rest of Europe if it removes it's presence in Iraq.
Title: Re: Remember when America made Iraq destroy its missles?
Post by: Woodrow on July 07, 2004, 10:19:24 PM


However, Bin Ladens cause is to go to war with America and have every westerner killed in the name of the cause, so he has succeeded. This situation right now is exactly where Bin Laden wanted to be. Bin Laden was never about reppin Islam.


No, actuallly that is totally false. 

The stated objectives of Bin Laden and his associates in the news immediately following 9-11 was that their chief objective and request were as follows:

1.  That Isreal move back to it's pre-67 borders
2.  That America remove it's presence in Saudi Arabia
3.  That America remove it's sanctions on Iraq.

Even famous Jewish author Noam Chosky discussed these details and said these were reasonable demands from Bin Laden and that the U.S. should honor them, although he said he disagreed with Bin Laden's method of achieving these ends.

-Not to mention, Bin Laden has publicly and officially offered peace to Spain for removing it's support for the U.S. foriegn policy, and Bin Laden was in the news on Al-Jezeera not long ago offering peace to the rest of Europe if it removes it's presence in Iraq.

How does it feel to be a nutjob?
Title: Re: Remember when America made Iraq destroy its missles?
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on July 07, 2004, 11:32:36 PM


However, Bin Ladens cause is to go to war with America and have every westerner killed in the name of the cause, so he has succeeded. This situation right now is exactly where Bin Laden wanted to be. Bin Laden was never about reppin Islam.


No, actuallly that is totally false. 

The stated objectives of Bin Laden and his associates in the news immediately following 9-11 was as follows:

1.  That Isreal move back to it's pre-67 borders
2.  That America remove it's presence in Saudi Arabia
3.  That America remove it's sanctions on Iraq.

Even famous Jewish author Noam Chosky discussed these details and said these were reasonable demands from Bin Laden and that the U.S. should honor them, although he said he disagreed with Bin Laden's method of achieving these ends.

-Not to mention, Bin Laden has publicly and officially offered peace to Spain for removing it's support for the U.S. foriegn policy, and Bin Laden was in the news on Al-Jezeera not long ago offering peace to the rest of Europe if it removes it's presence in Iraq.

What youre saying does not contradict what i said. Regardless of they intentions behind his cause, he still means to achieve it through fighting America and killing as much as westerners as possible.

The problem is that he claims to fight for Muslims, but his methods are un Islamic thus, his cause is not that of the Muslims world, which is the three u points u stated.
Title: Re: Remember when America made Iraq destroy its missles?
Post by: infinite59 on July 07, 2004, 11:54:54 PM


What youre saying does not contradict what i said. Regardless of they intentions behind his cause, he still means to achieve it through fighting America and killing as much as westerners as possible.

The problem is that he claims to fight for Muslims, but his methods are un Islamic thus, his cause is not that of the Muslims world, which is the three u points u stated.

I understand why you are disagreeing with the methods that he is using but to say he is not repping Islam is what confused me.  He sure ain't doing it for money or power, he is living in caves, his goal is the liberation of Muslim lands from the dictates of the United States and Isreal, that is obvious to everyone from Bush to the rank and file Muslims at any masjid. 

I'm guessin you are going to reply by saying that he isn't "reppin Islam" because he is not using Islamic means, because the Noble Qu'ran mentions harsh penelties for those who kill innocent people... so, I think I'm following you, peace up, I'm out, much love, props and respects.  On to the next topic.
Title: Re: Remember when America made Iraq destroy its missles?
Post by: GoodLuvn169 on July 14, 2004, 12:42:01 PM
...and then it attacked it anyways?  :-[
Wouldn't you want the country you were about to go to war with de-arm itself befroe hand?
LMAO
Title: Re: Remember when America made Iraq destroy its missles?
Post by: Sikotic™ on July 14, 2004, 02:51:59 PM
my whole point? i can careless now to the mid easts feelings......

What's sad is that's the mentality of our government