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Title: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on July 05, 2004, 07:25:29 PM
SHUT THA FUC UP YOU FEMALES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOSSIPIN ASS BEEEEEEEEEZIES !!!!!

The thing people seem to forget is, this type of thing happened recently in a little African country called Rwanda. The same thing Saddam was doing (genocide, mass graves etc.) was going on there in a larger scale. The one difference, Rwanda has no precious oil, so the USA is not going to get into it like in Iraq.

Bottom line, if it is only about tyranny, and mass graves, and taking down evil people, we would've gotten involved with Rwanda like we did Iraq. But it is not about saving the people, it is about money. But because we cannot go in there looking like a big bully, we will use the convenient excuse that it is WMD's and after that was proven false, we get him anyway. He ain't good 4 business. and then we make him destroy all his other weopens, America is a strate BITCH, no wonder it's named after a female, its just like a fight in the streets, muthafucaz start cryin let it go, 1 on 1, no weopens, then as soon as U drop yur weopens, they jump U and shoot you.

and FUC NO IM NOT PRO-SADAM, shut yo punk ass up U lames, u dunno anything bout my mentality on this shit...afterall, Sadam is responsible for the killings of my cuzzins & uncles in the Iran/Iraq war in the 80s, I was out there experiencing that shit, my dad went to vacation in Iran and was forced to go to the frontline of the war just because he was from America, all his crew got killed except him and couple other, till this day, my dad has been a wreck because of that shit, nightmares, heart attacks, and these neighbourhoods out here aint helpin either, how can I show any sympathy 4 sadam? I DONT U SUCK-EL ASS L7s......I'm just presenting FACTS, so hop of these nuts.














Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: Ras Kass' Toothpick on July 05, 2004, 07:42:30 PM
Good god you are a stupid boy.  I feel sorry for your mother.

Those are hardly facts.
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on July 05, 2004, 07:52:08 PM
SHUT THA FUC UP YOU FEMALES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOSSIPIN ASS BEEEEEEEEEZIES !!!!!

The thing people seem to forget is, this type of thing happened recently in a little African country called Rwanda. The same thing Saddam was doing (genocide, mass graves etc.) was going on there in a larger scale. The one difference, Rwanda has no precious oil, so the USA is not going to get into it like in Iraq.

Bottom line, if it is only about tyranny, and mass graves, and taking down evil people, we would've gotten involved with Rwanda like we did Iraq. But it is not about saving the people, it is about money. But because we cannot go in there looking like a big bully, we will use the convenient excuse that it is WMD's and after that was proven false, we get him anyway. He ain't good 4 business. and then we make him destroy all his other weopens, America is a strate BITCH, no wonder it's named after a female, its just like a fight in the streets, muthafucaz start cryin let it go, 1 on 1, no weopens, then as soon as U drop yur weopens, they jump U and shoot you.

and FUC NO IM NOT PRO-SADAM, shut yo punk ass up U lames, u dunno anything bout my mentality on this shit...afterall, Sadam is responsible for the killings of my cuzzins & uncles in the Iran/Iraq war in the 80s, I was out there experiencing that shit, my dad went to vacation in Iran and was forced to go to the frontline of the war just because he was from America, all his crew got killed except him and couple other, till this day, my dad has been a wreck because of that shit, nightmares, heart attacks, and these neighbourhoods out here aint helpin either, how can I show any sympathy 4 sadam? I DONT U SUCK-EL ASS L7s......I'm just presenting FACTS, so hop of these nuts.
















Its all about the paper man. Money and interests that safeguard said money. Same reason why America wouldnt touch Rwanda with a ten foot pole ?(although they were not alone in their guilt, see : Europe, UN etc)

Same reason why North Korea wouldve been invaded and shit on a long time ago if it were a Muslim nation and/or anywhere near Israel
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: hector on July 05, 2004, 08:53:08 PM
anyone who doesn't believe its for money is a fuckin moron.  our government doesn't give one fuck about the Iraqi's.  Hell our government doesn't give one fuck about us.  we got all kinds of problems in our own country that aren't being taken care of.  but Iraq takes precedence over our own people?  hmmm strange way of doing things.  How come Europe doesn't come into America with a military and start takeing care of our problems?  Why don't they come and wipe out all the murderers and the rapists?  maybe we don't have any murderers here in America?
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: smerlus on July 05, 2004, 11:14:00 PM
it's funny how people that complain about america have double standards. you'll complain if we fuck with one country and you'll complain if we don't fuck with any other countries... pick a side of your arguement and stick with it...either you want us to fuck with every country or you don't
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: Javier on July 06, 2004, 12:21:25 AM
it's funny how people that complain about america have double standards. you'll complain if we fuck with one country and you'll complain if we don't fuck with any other countries... pick a side of your arguement and stick with it...either you want us to fuck with every country or you don't


what are you talking bout? Read Rod's post again. 
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: smerlus on July 06, 2004, 12:24:22 AM
he's mad we fucked with sadaam and he's mad that we didn't fuck with rwanda.... either you want us to fuck with other countries or you don't
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: Javier on July 06, 2004, 12:35:18 AM
hes mad at the reason they used to go into Iraq. of Saddam being an evil person and how the Iraqi people are suffering, well Rwanda has the same situation no?  So why not go there.  Arent we trying to help the world get rid of evil people?  Why only Saddam in Iraq?  Where is the double standard?


Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: smerlus on July 06, 2004, 12:37:28 AM
hes mad at the reason they used to go into Iraq. of Saddam being an evil person and how the Iraqi people are suffering, well Rwanda has the same situation no?  So why not go there.  Arent we trying to help the world get rid of evil people?  Why only Saddam in Iraq?  Where is the double standard?




if we invaded every country...people would be mad
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: Maradona on July 06, 2004, 12:38:51 AM
It's official, Smerlus is an idiot.
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: smerlus on July 06, 2004, 12:41:24 AM
It's official, Smerlus is an idiot.

it's official,i'm correct
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: Javier on July 06, 2004, 12:46:51 AM
why invade Iraq only and get rid of Saddam?  WHY THEM ONLY? what made the Iraqi people so deserving of the riddance of Saddam?  Why not other people that are suffering?

I thought we had a war on terrorism not a War against the Middle East.
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: smerlus on July 06, 2004, 12:53:06 AM
why invade Iraq only and get rid of Saddam?  WHY THEM ONLY? what made the Iraqi people so deserving of the riddance of Saddam?  Why not other people that are suffering?

I thought we had a war on terrorism not a War against the Middle East.

question not, america works in mysertious ways  ;D
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: Don Jacob on July 06, 2004, 01:25:55 AM
this is a stupid post...it's pretty obvious getting rid of saddam wasn't the only reason we went to war.
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: Don Rizzle on July 06, 2004, 02:19:29 AM
the reason i supported the war was because of the mass graves and the years of tyrany, they just tried to sell it to everyone else on bullshit and got exposed ands still attacked anyway. i think we should play more of a role on the humanitarian side we should have peace keepers in sudan right now, i think we should play more of a role in africa. why is it america won't support condom schemes in africa where the worlds worst problems with aids are? we need  to gain more african support of getting rid of the regime in zimbabway. and whole lot more shit which we don't even hear about on our news.
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: Maradona on July 06, 2004, 02:53:59 AM
this is a stupid post...it's pretty obvious getting rid of saddam wasn't the only reason we went to war.

Which only further proves that Smerlus is incorrect and his retarded comments elaborate on that.
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: eNgIeS on July 06, 2004, 03:30:25 AM
I'm not sure if its definately for the oil & the money & for America to claim it, but it could be part of the reason
My opinion is Bush Jr had a vendetta with Saddam (right fully so btw) coz he gulf war. I think from day one even before 9/11, he had plans of taking out Saddam. I dont think he's intentions were evil, I think he truely did want to free the iraqi's, but i think the incentive to do that could well have been the oil. Whereas Rawanda doesnt have that incentive for USA to get involved

I dont know why people truely think Bush's intentions are evil. I doubt it, we all know he isnt the sharpest knife in the draw, he made some decisions & probably didnt think about the consequences they could have on the rest of the world & teh USA
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: 7even on July 06, 2004, 05:02:11 AM
why invade Iraq only and get rid of Saddam?  WHY THEM ONLY? what made the Iraqi people so deserving of the riddance of Saddam?  Why not other people that are suffering?

I thought we had a war on terrorism not a War against the Middle East.

question not, america works in mysertious ways  ;D

in wrong ways, trying to justify them with pathetic lies, which only neo-cons pretent to believe and only dumbasses really believe.
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: smerlus on July 06, 2004, 08:03:33 AM
we were responsible for sadaam getting power, he's our little bastard child that went awry....we put up with him for so long and then finally rid the world of him.... we really dont have any ties to rwanda so why would we go and fuck them up?

i know you X fil fanatics will say it was all for the money...the truth is out there or some shit....but when all is said and done we're helping restore iraq....we give millions of dollars in charity to other countries and shit like that....you people are stupid, only posting the negative articles about the US and israel....it must piss you guys off that you can't do shit about what these two countries do
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: Montana00 on July 06, 2004, 08:28:59 AM
America should stop trying to piss everyone off. So i got a plan. We excersise isolation again like we did back in the early 1900's.

Pull all our troops out of every country, stop all funding to other coutries who cant help themselves. And basically all the "genocides" can continue and basically letting all those countries destroy themselves. We should do this because, we dont wanna piss of rod.
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: Don Rizzle on July 06, 2004, 10:00:38 AM
u talking about when america profitted from WW1 then while germany italy and russia put dictatorships in power and re armed u made some money for a bit then coulcn't be arsed to work. then when millionsof jews (americas best friends) get mass murdered america watched, they watched the nazi's take over nearly all of euope and the japs attacking pear harbour before thinking urrr maybe we should get involved now. what makes me wonder is how much america knew about odessa considering they used the same escape routes (through italy getting fake IDs via the vatican) to get their double agents out after ww2 while the nazis fucked off to argentina to lead open lives without persecution for their crimes. after that it was time to sort out the russians aswell up until about 15 years ago.
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: Woodrow on July 06, 2004, 11:28:34 AM
u talking about when america profitted from WW1 then while germany italy and russia put dictatorships in power and re armed u made some money for a bit then coulcn't be arsed to work. then when millionsof jews (americas best friends) get mass murdered america watched, they watched the nazi's take over nearly all of euope and the japs attacking pear harbour before thinking urrr maybe we should get involved now. what makes me wonder is how much america knew about odessa considering they used the same escape routes (through italy getting fake IDs via the vatican) to get their double agents out after ww2 while the nazis fucked off to argentina to lead open lives without persecution for their crimes. after that it was time to sort out the russians aswell up until about 15 years ago.

Learn some history you moron.
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: Woodrow on July 06, 2004, 11:31:31 AM
America is a strate BITCH, no wonder it's named after a female, its just like a fight in the streets, muthafucaz start cryin let it go, 1 on 1, no weopens, then as soon as U drop yur weopens, they jump U and shoot you.



People wonder why "Liberals" get painted as people who hate America.
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: Don Rizzle on July 06, 2004, 12:19:55 PM
u talking about when america profitted from WW1 then while germany italy and russia put dictatorships in power and re armed u made some money for a bit then coulcn't be arsed to work. then when millionsof jews (americas best friends) get mass murdered america watched, they watched the nazi's take over nearly all of euope and the japs attacking pear harbour before thinking urrr maybe we should get involved now. what makes me wonder is how much america knew about odessa considering they used the same escape routes (through italy getting fake IDs via the vatican) to get their double agents out after ww2 while the nazis fucked off to argentina to lead open lives without persecution for their crimes. after that it was time to sort out the russians aswell up until about 15 years ago.

Learn some history you moron.
ok my knowledge of american history isn't great but what was wrong with what i said tkae each point and explain please.
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: white Boy on July 06, 2004, 02:40:32 PM
isnt america named after, amerigo vespuci (sp.), a male?
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: Doggystylin on July 06, 2004, 11:08:13 PM
America should stop trying to piss everyone off. So i got a plan. We excersise isolation again like we did back in the early 1900's.

Pull all our troops out of every country, stop all funding to other coutries who cant help themselves. And basically all the "genocides" can continue and basically letting all those countries destroy themselves. We should do this because, we dont wanna piss of rod.

exactly, your getting better man....  :laugh:
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: Don Jacob on July 06, 2004, 11:20:46 PM
lol^
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: infinite59 on July 08, 2004, 12:04:54 AM
SHUT THA FUC UP YOU FEMALES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOSSIPIN ASS BEEEEEEEEEZIES !!!!!

The thing people seem to forget is, this type of thing happened recently in a little African country called Rwanda. The same thing Saddam was doing (genocide, mass graves etc.) was going on there in a larger scale. The one difference, Rwanda has no precious oil, so the USA is not going to get into it like in Iraq.

Bottom line, if it is only about tyranny, and mass graves, and taking down evil people, we would've gotten involved with Rwanda like we did Iraq. But it is not about saving the people, it is about money. But because we cannot go in there looking like a big bully, we will use the convenient excuse that it is WMD's and after that was proven false, we get him anyway. He ain't good 4 business. and then we make him destroy all his other weopens, America is a strate BITCH, no wonder it's named after a female, its just like a fight in the streets, muthafucaz start cryin let it go, 1 on 1, no weopens, then as soon as U drop yur weopens, they jump U and shoot you.

and FUC NO IM NOT PRO-SADAM, shut yo punk ass up U lames, u dunno anything bout my mentality on this shit...afterall, Sadam is responsible for the killings of my cuzzins & uncles in the Iran/Iraq war in the 80s, I was out there experiencing that shit, my dad went to vacation in Iran and was forced to go to the frontline of the war just because he was from America, all his crew got killed except him and couple other, till this day, my dad has been a wreck because of that shit, nightmares, heart attacks, and these neighbourhoods out here aint helpin either, how can I show any sympathy 4 sadam? I DONT U SUCK-EL ASS L7s......I'm just presenting FACTS, so hop of these nuts.



That's right.  When Bush says that such and such "evil doers" are a threat to stability throughout the world... what he's really saying is that they are a threat to prospective business ventures throughout the world.

Like the people who are blowing up oil pipelines in Iraq now.. Bush calls them a threat to stability in the region.. what he really means is that they are a threat to "business in the region".   

Democrats and Republicans in high offices are the real criminals.  Not the one in jail for selling weed, that ain't the real criminal, what Bush is doing is killing and starving people all over the world.
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: BuddenzNasir on July 08, 2004, 01:05:57 AM
Lets break down the fact. USA Not bout Oil....why is it the first thing They did in Iraq quz Secure the Oil Lines?...safety precuassions n such? no to save the oil prices. Why r Iraqi's and no NOT terrorists breaking pipelines? cuz if USA dont got Oil...they'll leave Iraq. Why would USA stay in Iraq afta they rid suddam? to fight the terrorists with bombing. No they arent terrorists they were Pro-americans who r now pissed they wont leave there country. USA in only there to help them build a governemtn in Favor of USA and oil prices hoping it wont be a governtment like Iran Muslim Government. This is same reason USA gave Iraq chemical weapons to attack Iran in 1980 or sum shyt. If USA's "operation iraqi freedom" wuz for the purpose of Liberation. Go liberate cuba and china n vietnam and korea of their dictators. Go Liberates AFRICA. where food and wars and killing doesnt get any worse. Whats funny is USA talks about having oil and such but the Gas prices keep going high. and dont argue Gas nOil r different. true, but if u dont understand the Oil industry u dont understand the Gas industry. So if you think USA is their for a different reason other than Oil u gotta be an ignorant whyte person or pro-bush and believe in his ridiculous decisions which prolly wuznt even made by him. USA bitching bout all the shyt Sudaam did...should neva how put him in power like Osoma.
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: smerlus on July 08, 2004, 12:04:32 PM
Lets break down the fact. USA Not bout Oil....why is it the first thing They did in Iraq quz Secure the Oil Lines?...safety precuassions n such? no to save the oil prices. Why r Iraqi's and no NOT terrorists breaking pipelines? cuz if USA dont got Oil...they'll leave Iraq. Why would USA stay in Iraq afta they rid suddam? to fight the terrorists with bombing. No they arent terrorists they were Pro-americans who r now pissed they wont leave there country. USA in only there to help them build a governemtn in Favor of USA and oil prices hoping it wont be a governtment like Iran Muslim Government. This is same reason USA gave Iraq chemical weapons to attack Iran in 1980 or sum shyt. If USA's "operation iraqi freedom" wuz for the purpose of Liberation. Go liberate cuba and china n vietnam and korea of their dictators. Go Liberates AFRICA. where food and wars and killing doesnt get any worse. Whats funny is USA talks about having oil and such but the Gas prices keep going high. and dont argue Gas nOil r different. true, but if u dont understand the Oil industry u dont understand the Gas industry. So if you think USA is their for a different reason other than Oil u gotta be an ignorant whyte person or pro-bush and believe in his ridiculous decisions which prolly wuznt even made by him. USA bitching bout all the shyt Sudaam did...should neva how put him in power like Osoma.

it was stupid for americans to secure the oil first seeing as sadaam set them ablaze last time.....and it's stupid that we're still protecting them from terrorists that still want to set them ablaze

there goes your whole arguement, you may sit down now
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: Maradona on July 08, 2004, 11:11:19 PM
If we weren't there for the oil, then they would have no need to set them ablaze. However, since they know we're there to steal their oil, they feel the need to do what they can to hinder that.
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: smerlus on July 08, 2004, 11:14:41 PM
we didn't steal any oil during desert storm and they set them ablaze...how do you explain that?
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: Maradona on July 08, 2004, 11:33:29 PM
we didn't steal any oil during desert storm and they set them ablaze...how do you explain that?

During Desert Storm, Iraqis set ablaze Kuwaiti oil wells.  :)

You do know the history and reasons behind this right? If you don't let me know, and I'll school you again.
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: smerlus on July 08, 2004, 11:38:44 PM
Trench fire just outside Baghdad, 2003

http://www.warinformation.com/Iraqi_Front_Journal/Battle_Journal.htm

The oil fires in 2003 were few in number, compared to 1991. Only seven oil wells were set on fire by Iraqi forces in the opening hours of the war. There are still health hazards from the smoke because of the ingredients in the smoke. Saddam filled trenches with oil and set them on fire in order to block laser-guided missiles from reaching their targets through the smoke. The trench fires have cause air pollution and soil contamination.

The air pollution from the trench burning oil has cause serious health problems. The estimates are in the thousands of possible deaths as people breathe in tiny particles that enter the lungs. The people at greatest risk are those with respiratory problems. Certain particles are known to cause cancer. The particles are called "polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs)" and "PM10s." (BBC News) The oil fire smoke contains "contaminants such as sulphur, mercury, dioxins and furans." (BCC News) The soil contamination that comes from oil well fires and spills seeps into the ground resulting in ground water pollution or contamination. The pollution has affected the ecosystem destroying fragile desert regions.

 
Pollutants from burnt crude oil (wells or trenches) depends on the mixture and type of crude oil. The crude oil could contain "hydrogen sulphide (H2S), water and/or natural gas, and the presence of naturally occurring radioactivity, especially dissolved radon isotopes as products of the natural uranium decay series" (Desk Study on the Environment in Iraq).


The "Desk Study on the Environment in Iraq" lists the following contaminates:

• Extreme heat
• Carbon monoxide
• Unburned hydrocarbons
• Poly aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs)
• Polychlorinated-dibenzo-dioxins and furans
• Carbon soot
• Oxides of sulphur
• Oxides of nitrogen
• Carbon dioxide
• Radon

The extreme heat and carbon monoxide causes immediate death. The rest of the list causes chronic problems over a period of time

class dismissed
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: smerlus on July 08, 2004, 11:41:48 PM
Medical Survey Regarding the Effects of the
Iraqi Aggression on Kuwait's Health Care System

Professor J.A. Haji and Dr. Y.Y. Al-Sultan from the College of Administrative Science at Kuwait University produced a report titled AThe Effect of the Iraqi Aggression on Hospital Costs in Kuwait. As part of their research, they conducted a survey in November of 1996 to evaluate the adverse effects of the Iraqi aggression on Kuwait's health care system. One hundred doctors were asked to give their opinions on the actual and expected impact of the invasion.  Seventy-nine doctors who were employed in the six major public hospitals responded, and this is a summary of the data.  (P.43-44) 

96.2% of those surveyed believed that there had been a significant increase in the incidence of both psychological illness and respiratory diseases.
 

78 of the 79 respondents believed the Iraqi aggression would continue to have long-term effects on health conditions in Kuwait.
 

94.9% believed that new diseases had emerged in Kuwait since its liberation and 35.4% (more than one-third) also felt that new diseases would appear in the future.
 

94.9% of the doctors blame the occupation for the increased percentage of newborn Kuwaiti babies weighing less than 2.5 kilograms.
 

50.6% of the respondents felt that the pollution from the aggression had a severe impact on the number of spontaneous abortions.  Another 38% were of the opinion that this effect had been mild.
 

58.2% of the doctors attributed the increase in the percentage of low birth weight babies to pollution from the oil fires.
 

More than two-thirds (67.1%) believed there was a strong relationship between lung disease and the pollution and smoke from the oil fires.

Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: Maradona on July 09, 2004, 12:15:45 AM
LMAO, so you agree that in 1991 the Iraqis burned Kuwaiti oil wells? Yes, class is dismissed, so leave and let the teacher rest.
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: smerlus on July 09, 2004, 12:20:59 AM
are we even arguing the same thing?

we protect oil wells now because sadaam has a habit of setting them on fire... he did kuwaits in 1991 and he did some of his own in 2003

Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: smerlus on July 09, 2004, 12:22:25 AM
If we weren't there for the oil, then they would have no need to set them ablaze. However, since they know we're there to steal their oil, they feel the need to do what they can to hinder that.

plus as the article states he set oil fires in bagdad to mess with the laser guided missles...so once again student, you're wrong
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: Maradona on July 09, 2004, 12:26:26 AM
we didn't steal any oil during desert storm and they set them ablaze...how do you explain that?

This was your original statement. We were both on the topic of Iraq, so that's obviously what you were referring to here. Since that's the case, you were obviously wrong because they attacked Kuwaiti oil wells, and not Iraqi ones. Now you're wrong and you know it, and you're making stupid statements to try and stumble your way out. Tough shit. You're an idiot, face reality.
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: smerlus on July 09, 2004, 12:32:30 AM
we didn't steal any oil during desert storm and they set them ablaze...how do you explain that?

This was your original statement. We were both on the topic of Iraq, so that's obviously what you were referring to here. Since that's the case, you were obviously wrong because they attacked Kuwaiti oil wells, and not Iraqi ones. Now you're wrong and you know it, and you're making stupid statements to try and stumble your way out. Tough shit. You're an idiot, face reality.

that's funny...i don't remember placing ownership on "oil wells set ablaze" since you're guessing i could have meant off shore oil wells, or maybe even texas oil wells

you assumed i meant iraq and you're the asshole for it....now please stop grabbing at straws and eat a dick
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: Maradona on July 09, 2004, 12:37:12 AM
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

HERE'S YOUR COMMENT BEFORE THAT:

"it was stupid for americans to secure the oil first seeing as sadaam set them ablaze last time"

SECURE WHAT OIL? OH YEA, THE IRAQI OIL IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. WAIT, YOU SAID HE SET THE IRAQI OIL ABLAZE LAST TIME? OH, WAIT, WHAT, OK, YOUR CONTRADICTIONS ARE GETTING OUT OF CONTROL. OH NO, YOU MEAN SADDAM SET ABLAZE TEXAS OIL WELLS? REALLY? WOW.

LMAO YOU'RE AN IDIOT.

CLASS IS OFFICIALLY DISMISSED BITCH
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: Maradona on July 09, 2004, 12:38:24 AM
Lets break down the fact. USA Not bout Oil....why is it the first thing They did in Iraq quz Secure the Oil Lines?...safety precuassions n such? no to save the oil prices. Why r Iraqi's and no NOT terrorists breaking pipelines? cuz if USA dont got Oil...they'll leave Iraq. Why would USA stay in Iraq afta they rid suddam? to fight the terrorists with bombing. No they arent terrorists they were Pro-americans who r now pissed they wont leave there country. USA in only there to help them build a governemtn in Favor of USA and oil prices hoping it wont be a governtment like Iran Muslim Government. This is same reason USA gave Iraq chemical weapons to attack Iran in 1980 or sum shyt. If USA's "operation iraqi freedom" wuz for the purpose of Liberation. Go liberate cuba and china n vietnam and korea of their dictators. Go Liberates AFRICA. where food and wars and killing doesnt get any worse. Whats funny is USA talks about having oil and such but the Gas prices keep going high. and dont argue Gas nOil r different. true, but if u dont understand the Oil industry u dont understand the Gas industry. So if you think USA is their for a different reason other than Oil u gotta be an ignorant whyte person or pro-bush and believe in his ridiculous decisions which prolly wuznt even made by him. USA bitching bout all the shyt Sudaam did...should neva how put him in power like Osoma.

it was stupid for americans to secure the oil first seeing as sadaam set them ablaze last time.....and it's stupid that we're still protecting them from terrorists that still want to set them ablaze

there goes your whole arguement, you may sit down now

There, I quoted it for you, so you can see how stupid you really are.
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: smerlus on July 09, 2004, 12:40:14 AM
again i didn't declare ownership of the oil wells...but thanks for telling me what i was thinking..too bad you're wrong
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: Maradona on July 09, 2004, 12:45:04 AM
again i didn't declare ownership of the oil wells...but thanks for telling me what i was thinking..too bad you're wrong

LMAO. No response, eh? LOL.

BuddensNazir: why is it the first thing They did in Iraq quz Secure the Oil Lines?
THE RETARD: it was stupid for americans to secure the oil first seeing as sadaam set them ablaze last time


SINCE HE ASKED THE QUESTION IN REGARDS TO IRAQ, YOU ANSWERED WITH TEXAS OR KUWAIT? LOL, EITHER WAY, YOU'RE RETARDED.
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: smerlus on July 09, 2004, 12:50:02 AM
ok lets do this so that you can understand it

my response was "it was stupid for americans to secure the oil first seeing as sadaam set them ablaze last time"

now substitute "them" for "oil wells" since that's what i was talking about, and you have

"it was stupid for americans to secure the oil first seeing as sadaam set "oil wells" ablaze last time"

wow still doesn't say iraq

thank you and good night
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: Maradona on July 09, 2004, 12:53:18 AM
ok lets do this so that you can understand it

my response was "it was stupid for americans to secure the oil first seeing as sadaam set them ablaze last time"

now substitute "them" for "oil wells" since that's what i was talking about, and you have

"it was stupid for americans to secure the oil first seeing as sadaam set "oil wells" ablaze last time"

wow still doesn't say iraq

thank you and good night

So you're saying that he was talking about Iraq and you were talking about something else? Do you always talk about something different than the other person is? Is that how you argue? LOL. Now it all makes sense.
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: Maestro Minded on July 09, 2004, 01:22:55 AM
smerlus... maradona saw through your bullshit.... why dint just just be a man and shut the fuck up ::)
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: smerlus on July 09, 2004, 02:13:27 AM
ok lets do this so that you can understand it

my response was "it was stupid for americans to secure the oil first seeing as sadaam set them ablaze last time"

now substitute "them" for "oil wells" since that's what i was talking about, and you have

"it was stupid for americans to secure the oil first seeing as sadaam set "oil wells" ablaze last time"

wow still doesn't say iraq

thank you and good night

So you're saying that he was talking about Iraq and you were talking about something else? Do you always talk about something different than the other person is? Is that how you argue? LOL. Now it all makes sense.

he was talking about oil, i was talking about oil...you said "he burned oil wells because the US was stealing oil" i gave you a reason why he set iraqi oil wells on fire this time around and why he set kuwaiti oil wells on fire during desert storm, then i wondered why you were even arguing about kuwait in the first place... you're trying to make an arguement since i threw your stealing oil theory out the window...so you can shut your dumb ass up now that i broke it down real nice for you
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: smerlus on July 09, 2004, 02:13:53 AM
smerlus... maradona saw through your bullshit.... why dint just just be a man and shut the fuck up ::)

stay out of grown peopls business
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: Maradona on July 09, 2004, 02:26:50 AM
ok lets do this so that you can understand it

my response was "it was stupid for americans to secure the oil first seeing as sadaam set them ablaze last time"

now substitute "them" for "oil wells" since that's what i was talking about, and you have

"it was stupid for americans to secure the oil first seeing as sadaam set "oil wells" ablaze last time"

wow still doesn't say iraq

thank you and good night

So you're saying that he was talking about Iraq and you were talking about something else? Do you always talk about something different than the other person is? Is that how you argue? LOL. Now it all makes sense.

he was talking about oil, i was talking about oil...you said "he burned oil wells because the US was stealing oil" i gave you a reason why he set iraqi oil wells on fire this time around and why he set kuwaiti oil wells on fire during desert storm, then i wondered why you were even arguing about kuwait in the first place... you're trying to make an arguement since i threw your stealing oil theory out the window...so you can shut your dumb ass up now that i broke it down real nice for you

Actually, you made your comment to the other guy before I even said anything, so your stupidity blinded you and threw you off for the rest of the argument. You were lost as to what to say. Stupid Answer A and Stupid Answer B were your only choices. I don't know which one you went with because you gave me a little of each, but either way, it didn't work out in your benefit, since I'm still correct and you're still wrong. Just answer 1 question:

BuddensNazir: why is it the first thing They did in Iraq quz Secure the Oil Lines?
THE RETARD aka you: it was stupid for americans to secure the oil first seeing as sadaam set them ablaze last time

Which oil wells were you referring to here? Since he's talking about Iraq, and let's say you were referring to Kuwait, which would make you look less stupid, then why are you asking me why I brought up Kuwait? LOL you seriously need to get your bullshit straightened out. You're all over the place. And if you weren't referring to Kuwait, then there's nothing else to discuss. Oh by the way, after I mentioned Kuwait, instead of saying "I was referring to Kuwait", you posted up 2 bullshit posts, where you were trying to prove me wrong, and instead proved me right. This is way too easy.  8)
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: smerlus on July 09, 2004, 02:35:07 AM
ok lets do this so that you can understand it

my response was "it was stupid for americans to secure the oil first seeing as sadaam set them ablaze last time"

now substitute "them" for "oil wells" since that's what i was talking about, and you have

"it was stupid for americans to secure the oil first seeing as sadaam set "oil wells" ablaze last time"

wow still doesn't say iraq

thank you and good night

So you're saying that he was talking about Iraq and you were talking about something else? Do you always talk about something different than the other person is? Is that how you argue? LOL. Now it all makes sense.

he was talking about oil, i was talking about oil...you said "he burned oil wells because the US was stealing oil" i gave you a reason why he set iraqi oil wells on fire this time around and why he set kuwaiti oil wells on fire during desert storm, then i wondered why you were even arguing about kuwait in the first place... you're trying to make an arguement since i threw your stealing oil theory out the window...so you can shut your dumb ass up now that i broke it down real nice for you

Actually, you made your comment to the other guy before I even said anything, so your stupidity blinded you and threw you off for the rest of the argument. You were lost as to what to say. Stupid Answer A and Stupid Answer B were your only choices. I don't know which one you went with because you gave me a little of each, but either way, it didn't work out in your benefit, since I'm still correct and you're still wrong. Just answer 1 question:

BuddensNazir: why is it the first thing They did in Iraq quz Secure the Oil Lines?
THE RETARD aka you: it was stupid for americans to secure the oil first seeing as sadaam set them ablaze last time

Which oil wells were you referring to here? Since he's talking about Iraq, and let's say you were referring to Kuwait, which would make you look less stupid, then why are you asking me why I brought up Kuwait? LOL you seriously need to get your bullshit straightened out. You're all over the place. And if you weren't referring to Kuwait, then there's nothing else to discuss. Oh by the way, after I mentioned Kuwait, instead of saying "I was referring to Kuwait", you posted up 2 bullshit posts, where you were trying to prove me wrong, and instead proved me right. This is way too easy.  8)

i was talking about the oil wells he set on fire during desert storm (kuwait's) and then you came here saying:

we didn't steal any oil during desert storm and they set them ablaze...how do you explain that?

During Desert Storm, Iraqis set ablaze Kuwaiti oil wells.  :)

You do know the history and reasons behind this right? If you don't let me know, and I'll school you again.

which was some kind of gay argument because you don't speaka english too well, so i went on to show reasons why sadaam would set oil wells on fire...and you somehow switched it into "i schooled you on kuwait" when i was never arguing about that... it's ok, i know mommy and daddy don't pay too much attention to you.....so if you ever want to argue with me like a little girl...i won't mind
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: Maradona on July 09, 2004, 07:55:14 PM
Did you say Kuwait before? No. Did someone else talk about Iraq's oil wells, and you said "yea he did that last time"? Yes. That doesn't mean I don't know English too well because my use of the English language is obviously a lot better than yours is. However, what we can conclude from this is that you jump from one thing to another without being able to clarify yourself, and if someone doesn't understand what your semi-sentences say, then they don't speak English. Great logic you have there dumbass.
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: BuddenzNasir on July 09, 2004, 09:19:26 PM
Wow sterlus ur reply to my comment...considering ur point bout Terrorists setting ablaze to the pipelinez wus retarded and had no sense in it...means i dont gotta sit down and ur just hard headed =D cuz the people setting them a blaze r like i said. people pissed USA wont leave. and Sudaam settin them on fire...lets think bout this one. not only wuz Sudaam on a 24 hour warning...if he wunted to burn him he woulda threatned/done so already. considering he didnt...it didnt make a difference....so hey..way 2 be?  ;D

And why he didnt set them on fire...he truely believed USA's bluff bout accusing him bieng part of 9/11 and there gunna capture him....and he figured when usa fails n such he can get back to ruling the country and running the economy off the oil. if he woulda figured they comin for oil it woulda been blazed whyle ago.

Oh and MErlus said:we didn't steal any oil during desert storm and they set them ablaze...how do you explain that?

Then tryed to argue the Fact MAradona pointed out that in DESERT STORM only thing burned by Iraq wuz KUWAITI's pipelines...and yet as hard headed as u r u still tryed to keep arguing. jus stfu...leave it alone and deal wit it...people can be wrong..but u make it worse by arguing over n over n over and getting no where.
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: smerlus on July 09, 2004, 09:37:26 PM
Did you say Kuwait before? No. Did someone else talk about Iraq's oil wells, and you said "yea he did that last time"? Yes. That doesn't mean I don't know English too well because my use of the English language is obviously a lot better than yours is. However, what we can conclude from this is that you jump from one thing to another without being able to clarify yourself, and if someone doesn't understand what your semi-sentences say, then they don't speak English. Great logic you have there dumbass.

show me where i said "yeah he did that last time"?

i said he burned oil wells last time

so once again you ASSUMED i was talking about something else and you feel the need to "school" someone but you didn't do shit for this argument....wow you're are fucking stupid
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: Maradona on July 09, 2004, 10:43:32 PM
Let me start off by saying that you're officially a retard. Congratulations. Furthermore, this is exactly what was said:

BuddensNazir: why is it the first thing They did in Iraq quz Secure the Oil Lines?
THE RETARD: it was stupid for americans to secure the oil first seeing as sadaam set them ablaze last time

You're really not making sense. I said you were referring to oil wells, and you're saying "NO, YOU'RE JUST ASSUMING SHIT, I WAS REALLY REFERRING TO OIL WELLS". Read this smart guy: That's what I said.

If you're arguing that you didn't say "yeah he did that last time", and rather said "it was stupid for americans to secure the oil first seeing as sadaam set them ablaze last time".... then you're an idiot because that's the exact same thing. When someone says "Did you go to the mall today?" and you reply "No", isn't it reasonable to assume that you meant "No, I didn't go to the mall" ORRRRRR IN USING YOUR LOGIC YOU PROBABLY MEANT "No, the weather is nice"
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: smerlus on July 10, 2004, 08:59:12 AM
Let me start off by saying that you're officially a retard. Congratulations. Furthermore, this is exactly what was said:

BuddensNazir: why is it the first thing They did in Iraq quz Secure the Oil Lines?
THE RETARD: it was stupid for americans to secure the oil first seeing as sadaam set them ablaze last time

You're really not making sense. I said you were referring to oil wells, and you're saying "NO, YOU'RE JUST ASSUMING SHIT, I WAS REALLY REFERRING TO OIL WELLS". Read this smart guy: That's what I said.

If you're arguing that you didn't say "yeah he did that last time", and rather said "it was stupid for americans to secure the oil first seeing as sadaam set them ablaze last time".... then you're an idiot because that's the exact same thing. When someone says "Did you go to the mall today?" and you reply "No", isn't it reasonable to assume that you meant "No, I didn't go to the mall" ORRRRRR IN USING YOUR LOGIC YOU PROBABLY MEANT "No, the weather is nice"


you're taking one line out of a big paragraph

let's say that i took a trip to iraq with some friends in 1993 where we visited a mall in kuwait

and then i took another trip in 1994

i start talking about all the fun i had in iraq...the great clubs i went to....the fine dinning restaraunts...the nights in the palace

then i mention "hey i went to the same mall i went to last time"

by your reasoning, that means i went to an iraqi mall

so then the retard kid in the group (which will be played by you) says "we're talking about iraq...that mall was in kuwait..i schooled you"

i reply...."i know that mall was in kuwait"

then the retarded kid says "well i schooled you because when someone is talking about iraq.....you can't talk about something similar that happened in the next country because i haven't fully grasped english yet"
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: Maradona on July 10, 2004, 02:33:02 PM
So what you're saying is that you're a retard?! Good to know, I'll keep that in mind next time you TRY to argue with me unsuccessfully, and I'll go a little easy with the verbal abuse I deliver to you. 8)
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: Maestro Minded on July 10, 2004, 06:49:13 PM
smerlus... i cant believe that you're even actually TRYING to defend yourself
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: Maradona on July 11, 2004, 01:26:03 PM
smerlus... i cant believe that you're even actually TRYING to defend yourself

LOL, yea, that amazes me too.
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: GoodLuvn169 on July 11, 2004, 05:30:53 PM
If we were to touch Rawanda you would just as fucking pissed.
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: smerlus on July 11, 2004, 09:40:32 PM
smerlus... i cant believe that you're even actually TRYING to defend yourself

it's not defending, it's common sense something you and maradona seem to lack....if i didn't know about the kuwaiti oil wells, why would i post up an article about them? but it's ok....you are both morons and i forgive you
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: BuddenzNasir on July 11, 2004, 09:59:24 PM
Smerlus...u still have yet to give up on the fact u fucked up and tryed to recover with sum otha bullshyt and tryed to look smart with sum articles. congrats wut u said bout articles wuz nice but doesnt cover the fact u fucked up. and i pointed that out. and u couldnt reply to this..why? simply cuz i put ur ass out and u look like a hard headed ass. jus get off this forum topic and dont post no more. save urself the trouble. u look like Roberto Baggio on a penalty kick in 1994. dont kno wut i mean look it up like u do with ur fuck up recovery news articles =D
Title: Re: ..........BUT ROD, SADAM TORTURED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!
Post by: smerlus on July 11, 2004, 11:17:32 PM
you bitches can say what you want but deep down we all know the truth  ;D