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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Entreri117 on July 27, 2004, 10:27:43 AM
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This is totally hypothetical, of course. Now...what if...in World War 2, the war was ONLY between Germany and the United States? Who would win? Don't post "it could have never happened" or any other bullshit, b/c like I just said, its totally hypothetical.
IMO, I think Germany would have easily won. True, America is MUCH larger than Germany and could produce more war supplies. But, Germany produced much better tanks, weapons, warships, and aircraft. Germany had it's forces HUGELY split up...a huge chunk to take on the Soviets, a big chunk to fight the British, a fairly large force in Africa to help the Italians, forces in Norway and France, and nearly all of its Navy was focused on Britain. Just think...if Germany could have focused ALL of it's forces JUST on America, there is no way America could have beaten them IMO. Possibly with the thorough use of atomic weapons, but those didn't come till after Germany surendered.
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This is totally hypothetical, of course. Now...what if...in World War 2, the war was ONLY between Germany and the United States? Who would win? Don't post "it could have never happened" or any other bullshit, b/c like I just said, its totally hypothetical.
IMO, I think Germany would have easily won. True, America is MUCH larger than Germany and could produce more war supplies. But, Germany produced much better tanks, weapons, warships, and aircraft. Germany had it's forces HUGELY split up...a huge chunk to take on the Soviets, a big chunk to fight the British, a fairly large force in Africa to help the Italians, forces in Norway and France, and nearly all of its Navy was focused on Britain. Just think...if Germany could have focused ALL of it's forces JUST on America, there is no way America could have beaten them IMO. Possibly with the thorough use of atomic weapons, but those didn't come till after Germany surendered.
Germany was preparing for war how many years before world war 2?
I believe, if America prepared as much as germany did...it'd be a tough battle..which would be won on AIR and SEA....unless Germany goes from Mexico up^^ (doubt they'd be able to use Canada)
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America pre-ww2. Yes
If america had as much time to prepare an army then who knows.
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I would probably be speaking German.
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We would win,
"USA", we kicked too much ass in the past
Hitlers ass got pwned
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slayer you are officially a moron
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since we're talking about "if" s
i'd say america would win
because "IF" america started to lose... time traveling aliens from the future would have made contact with us and a deal would have been struck that: america would get powerful vehicles that would be able to turn into robots, in exchange for the alien race to build energon factories on our planet. with these poweful, self automated robots, America would have an easy time at winning the war.
but later on in the 80's, some of these robots that could "transform" in vehicles (hereby referred to as "transformers") would break off into a terrorist group called the Decepticons...as all shady US deals eventually have us fighting the same group that we have helped before...these Decepticons would flourish in the middle east because they don't need water or overheat. making the desert and moutainous waste lands perfect for a base of operations...
clashes between the Decepticon faction and the still patriotic Autobot faction would be displayed every saturday morning, in a 1/2 hour recap of the weak on abc or something....
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america would win. With the Atomic Bomb invented in 1944 Germany would of been fucked up.
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since we're talking about "if" s
i'd say america would win
because "IF" america started to lose... time traveling aliens from the future would have made contact with us and a deal would have been struck that: america would get powerful vehicles that would be able to turn into robots, in exchange for the alien race to build energon factories on our planet. with these poweful, self automated robots, America would have an easy time at winning the war.
but later on in the 80's, some of these robots that could "transform" in vehicles (hereby referred to as "transformers") would break off into a terrorist group called the Decepticons...as all shady US deals eventually have us fighting the same group that we have helped before...these Decepticons would flourish in the middle east because they don't need water or overheat. making the desert and moutainous waste lands perfect for a base of operations...
clashes between the Decepticon faction and the still patriotic Autobot faction would be displayed every saturday morning, in a 1/2 hour recap of the weak on abc or something....
I miss Transformers :'(
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slayer you are officially a moron
oh can u diss me even more
its what i think loser
yea the atomic bomb fucked up the japs real bad
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america would win. With the Atomic Bomb invented in 1944 Germany would of been fucked up.
lol, you know who made atomic bombs possible in the first place?
the Nazis also had the chance to make em, maybe they had them, I dont know..
anyways, war would've been won by germany way before 1944 anyway lol
lol@smerlus btw
Nazi-Germany was the strongest country back then, for sure. Keep in mind, Germany lost a world war just 25 years before and was paying mad reparations and stuff lol, pretty remarkable.
The thing that led to the victory of America was more the fact that Hitler wanted to fight Russia (which was huge back then) and America at the same time, despite very cold weather in Russia and shit than the strengh of the US
I think if Russia wouldnt have existed (lol) the Nazis wouldve won
wouldve been a very different world right now, and probably a horrible one for most of us
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1940: Germany >> U.S.
2004: U.S. >>>> Germany
The times done changed..
Russia vs. U.S. could have been interesting at certain points in history too.
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slayer you are officially a moron
Don't use the lines I use to describe you. Jockin ass hoe.
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slayer you are officially a moron
Don't use the lines I use to describe you. Jockin ass hoe.
LOL
ramp is jealous
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Germany would have easily won, the Germans were beyond their time as far as technology goes. they had the first jet engine, the V2 rockets, and plane designs that have been copied and still used today. ( some of these designs by Germany actually were tested and flew). also the Germans were close to completing their own atomic bomb toward the end of WW2, and the only reason they didn;t complete it was because of the constant bombing around them. there is no question in my mind that Germany would have easily defeated the U.S. if all of their forces were concentrated towards the U.S.
but the past is the past im not going for Germany or nothing im just stateing facts...
USA RULES ALL!!!!
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Germany would have easily won, the Germans were beyond their time as far as technology goes. they had the first jet engine, the V2 rockets, and plane designs that have been copied and still used today. ( some of these designs by Germany actually were tested and flew). also the Germans were close to completing their own atomic bomb toward the end of WW2, and the only reason they didn;t complete it was because of the constant bombing around them. there is no question in my mind that Germany would have easily defeated the U.S. if all of their forces were concentrated towards the U.S.
im going for Germany or nothing im just stateing facts...
NAZIS RULES ALL!!!!
NAZI! :D
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Germany would have easily won, the Germans were beyond their time as far as technology goes. they had the first jet engine, the V2 rockets, and plane designs that have been copied and still used today. ( some of these designs by Germany actually were tested and flew). also the Germans were close to completing their own atomic bomb toward the end of WW2, and the only reason they didn;t complete it was because of the constant bombing around them. there is no question in my mind that Germany would have easily defeated the U.S. if all of their forces were concentrated towards the U.S.
im going for Germany or nothing im just stateing facts...
NAZIS RULES ALL!!!!
NAZI! :D
yeah a mexican nazi ::)
almost as cool as a half white half mexican "skinhead" LMAO
muahahaah
*inside joke*
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^^^lmao dude shutup i am a real skinhead
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hey guys news flash! imma be a skinhead even tho im mexican and i dont hate jews or blacks!!! :D
::)
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one of the biggest things which helped britain was the invention on radar because when they sent their planes over to bomb us we could see them coming way before they got here.
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and the british completing the cracking of the enigma machine. the polish were a huge part of that too. having seized the first machines and having cracked an earlier version of the code.
...years later americans then make a movie claiming they did it all on their own ::)
to me fact is...without the "alliance" the germans would have won.
singlehandedly we couldnt do it. none of us could have.
if england weren't seperated by mainland europe as much as it is (20 miles of sea at the closest) the story may well have been very different.
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Honestly the U.S. would have won. Historical fact, the war would not be fought in the Americans because Mexico had repeatly turn down offers from Germany to help them out, so Germany would have to travel by water and by air, which the U.S. would be ready to respond. Also, France would aid any invasion of Germany, here's a little secret, for 100's of years, they didn't along. So right there the war is fought in Germany. Also, we got the Atomic Bomb because many of the inventors were guess what, Jewish. Many of the scientist left, either because they were Jewish, or many scientist just didn't agree with Hitler and left. We used these scientist to get the atomic bomb first. So if you ask me who would, it'd be like how it happen, Germany with an early lead, the U.S. as time goes on, and in the end, an Atomic Explosion. only over Berlin this time.
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Heres one thing you people seem to forget...the atomic bomb did not show up until 1945...because it took them that long to research and engineer the thing. The war could have ended before then. Also, who knows America would have even used it? The A-bomb was used for two reasons only:
1) To save the lives of hundreds of thousands of American soldiers if the war continued on at it's rate.
2) To quickly put an end to the war b/c America was tired of fighting it.
Another thing people seem to forget is a battle called Kasserine Pass, which was the first ground engagement between American and German forces. What happened? The American forces were, quite literally, annihilated. Germans had superior leadership, much better tanks and artillery, and German troops were MUCH better trained.
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Heres one thing you people seem to forget...the atomic bomb did not show up until 1945...because it took them that long to research and engineer the thing. The war could have ended before then. Also, who knows America would have even used it? The A-bomb was used for two reasons only:
1) To save the lives of hundreds of thousands of American soldiers if the war continued on at it's rate.
2) To quickly put an end to the war b/c America was tired of fighting it.
Another thing people seem to forget is a battle called Kasserine Pass, which was the first ground engagement between American and German forces. What happened? The American forces were, quite literally, annihilated. Germans had superior leadership, much better tanks and artillery, and German troops were MUCH better trained.
Germany was better prepared for war first, which is why it benefit for us (The U.S.) to enter the war late, or else we'd end up like France. Now it is true, the Soviet Union was the major factor of Ally victory, because they just threw people at Germany until Germany started going backward. Soviet Russia lost more people than almost everyone else put together, plus Germany could not handle the winter.
But the United States vs. Nazi Germany, as I said, at first the Nazi's would be winning the war. Though I think Franklin D. Roosevelt would find a way to win, plus Eisenhower was a great general and MacArthur would not be occupied with Japan. The U.S. military would all be focused in Germany, meaning the Marines, the United States strangest soldiers would also be in Germany. In WWII, the Marines were in the pacific, and the Army, the largest but less skilled branch, was in Germany. So you would have a whole United States in Germany. This would give the United States more than enough time to develope teh bomb, which was originally suppose to be for Germany, which is why it was a hard choice to drop it in Japan. We never wanted to drop the bomb on Japan, because at the time, well, we only had 2. Those were suppose to be for military cities in Germany.
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It all comes down to Germany was the only country actually prepared for war.
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It all comes down to Germany was the only country actually prepared for war.
basically. It would have been a race for time. Can the United States hold off Germany long enough to build the Bomb. Another thing, when WWII first started, France and England did not battle Germany for almost a year, as they tried to rebuild their armies in time. The U.S. would be in the same boat. Of course one question, how in the world could you have a war like WWII without France running in, after all, if France hated anyone more than the U.S. today, it was Germany then. I don't see in 1941 the U.S. vs. Germany without France.
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it depends on how soon we really had use of a nuclear bomb...we would have won eventually due to our superior technology...hence us building the first nuke
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Easly Germany. No doubt. Just remember how Japan destroyed USA in just one day (and if they didnt use 2 nukes.. who knows!). Now i'm not against USA, you know (i thanked them so many times cause they "saved" Italy), but Japan and Germany were preparing that war from so many years, man. USA had more money, more people, more everything, but they werent ready for a war. They had great airplanes, but they werent good against submarines. They had big ships, but they built them to be indistructibles in sea-sea fights (they forgot about airplanes..). Japanese invented a special bomb to be launched from airplanes, that was able not to destroy the whole ship (cause they would have damaged it, but not really destroyed it), but to go inside it and explode inside it.. They invented kamikazee's. Germany had the best army in the world. They were unstoppable. I personally think Hitler destroyed them. By not letting good generals do the war. He often personally wrote the plans of the battles, or let his best friends do it (but they didnt have the ability). Germany fell off because of themselves not having good generals. I'm sure about it. Not because of the enemies. Well.. it's a lucky thing, def. But they were scaring, man. Scaring. I'm happy USA won, tho.
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Easly Germany. No doubt. Just remember how Japan destroyed USA in just one day (and if they didnt use 2 nukes.. who knows!). Now i'm not against USA, you know (i thanked them so many times cause they "saved" Italy), but Japan and Germany were preparing that war from so many years, man. USA had more money, more people, more everything, but they werent ready for a war. They had great airplanes, but they werent good against submarines. They had big ships, but they built them to be indistructibles in sea-sea fights (they forgot about airplanes..). Japanese invented a special bomb to be launched from airplanes, that was able not to destroy the whole ship (cause they would have damaged it, but not really destroyed it), but to go inside it and explode inside it.. They invented kamikazee's. Germany had the best army in the world. They were unstoppable. I personally think Hitler destroyed them. By not letting good generals do the war. He often personally wrote the plans of the battles, or let his best friends do it (but they didnt have the ability). Germany fell off because of themselves not having good generals. I'm sure about it. Not because of the enemies. Well.. it's a lucky thing, def. But they were scaring, man. Scaring. I'm happy USA won, tho.
thanks you thast what i said...
but i mean yall gotta remember it was just Germany and Japan aganist the world lol
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Not only. The single fact 2 Nations with no help (forget about Italy's military force! We being so wack helped USA more than the nuke's, lol!) for 5 years resisted against the whole world (5 years, not 5 weeks like Iraq. Just immagine Iraq resisting 5 years against the whole world and invading Iran, Israel, Saudi Arabia, etc..) it was awesome! I mean terrible, you know what i mean.
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plus...
there is technology nazi germany made that is still being used today the US got their stealth bomber design from them.
Actually, Germany had the superior technology, they had the jet engine first, the would have had the atomic bomb long before the U.S. had they not been under such heavy bombing , they had the V2 rockets (it has been said that Nazi Germany saved the U.S. and Russia 10 years in the "space race"), and many of the nazi's plane designs are still used today ( the U.S. used one of Germany's designs to make what we now know as the stealth bomber). So dont even say anything about the United States' superior technology, because the German's technology was leagues beyond the technology of the U.S.
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Plus, you know.. Hitler was a fool.
I mean he did things who were unnecessary for the war. Just for the fuck of it. He focused on jews when it was totally negative for the war itself. He wanted to conquire Russia and it was totally unnecessary for the war. He did stupid things (cause he was stupid) just cause he was crazy. Immagine a real man with a real plan and that army. With real generals who knew the art of war and were not Hitler's homeboys. Pratically unstoppable. When you usually see an American movie about Nazi, you always see 1 American killing them all, or fooling them all (e.i. Indiana Jones, etc..), but for real.. they were scaring! Believe me.
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Hitle ronly did stupid shit towards the end of the war, not the beginning. In a war against the U.S. it wouldn;t have even made it to that time period. Toward the end hitler was sick and didn't listen to his generals because he wanted to see all of his goals accomplished before he died. But as i said, the war against america wouldnt even had made it that far. And about the movie thing......don;t be a damn fool. The winner of war (or anything for that matter) is allowed to portray their opponents however they want to, and no one will question it.
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Awww... but see, I figure Hitler would lose the war against the U.S.
I am realizing how dumb this question is. Are people just looking for someone to beat the U.S. I remember when no one thought Mike Tyson could lose, they said Ali could beat him... which is true... but it doesn't matter. If anyone wants to see a nation that can beat the U.S. in war, look no further than China. There, Hitler would lose against the U.S. on his own stupity, which counts, an army is only is as good as it's head, and China now can beat the U.S. now. Simple.
U.S. in 1941 had Roosevelt leading Eisenhower, MacArthur, the U.S. Marines were not even in Europe, they were in the Pacific, which the U.S. fought by it's self, well supplying England with troops to fight Germany. Also, if you lived anywhere near a military base in the U.S., you know because in our history we mobilized many steel mills, and airplane tank factories everywhere. I live in a place that had a steel mill, airplane factory and air force base all within 5 miles of each other, and until it all closed in the 80's, that's how people here made money was through these industries. The U.S. mobilized all of it's resources after Pearl Harbor really quick, and all we had to do in 1941, was basically wait out until 1945 when we had the atomic bomb. We rebuild after Pearl Harbor really quickly, and we took a year to get everything ready, reload our Navy, and rush through the Pacific ocean with ease. Maybe it's because I live in an area with a lot of Marines, but I do not see us losing a war with Germany when our soldiers believe in the war we our fighting in, and the Holocaust would be good enough to get our soldiers fighting.
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You are acting as if its todays U.S. against Nazi Germany. Back then nazi germany would have crushed the U.S..... And why do yo ukeep bringing up the A-Bomb? Like i have said the Germans would have had it long before the U.S. if they werent being bombed by the allies so much, and this wouldnt be a problem if it was just the U.S. against germany. And you bring up the holocaust, but yet the U.S. troops claim to have known nothing about the holocaust. I've heard holocaust survivors speak and they have descibed the looks on the soldiers faces, and have said the soldiers told them they didnt have any idea about the camps. So how would they be motivated by something they knew nothing about? Are they gonna jump ahead in time, come back and THEN fight the war?
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Motivations has nothing to do with USA not being prepared to fight sea-air fights, to defend themselves from japaneeses and kamikazees, to go defeating Germany when they were already fighting from 5 years alone against the whole world, and winning. Plus american soldiers didnt even know about holocaust at all. Germany were unbeatable by a single nation. At least in a small period of time. They didnt collapse with the whole world fighting them for almost 6 years.. how is it possible to think they could have been (easly?) defeated just by a single nation? (not prepared to war).
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The U.S. at the time didn't go into Germany and Japan at the start of the war for one reason, we were not ready. Germany took Europe by storm, crushing countries that were not ready. Poland, France, all of Eastern Europe, England, if England was on main land Europe, they'd be crush. Geography plays a huge role. If the United States was right next to Germany, the U.S. would fall. But I keep saying, it would be fought in Germany. Mexico was against Germany, so was Canada, meaning Germany would have no where to house soldiers. Plus the United States militaries best fighters were fighting the Japanese front in the Pacific. You add those to the Europe front, and the fact that we don't have to invade Germany until we feel ready to. It's different. And Hitler didn't not get the bomb because Germany was getting bombed, he didn't get the bomb because his best scientist left Germany to come to the United States. Does Albert Einstein ring a bell. Many of the A-Bomb scientist were Jewish, so if they stayed in Germany they'd die. Hitler was sitting on the A-Bomb and gave it away. It would all be a matter of time. If Germany can fight back the U.S., and find a way to take the war to the North America, then, and only then can Germany win. I'm not arguing who was better perpared, who's generals where better, who had greater technology, but you have to understand, even in 1941 the United States had a hell of a military, and the Marines in the Pacific fought some of the greatest battles in world history, proving their reputation. All we had was time, Hitler gave us the bomb chasing away the scientist, and unless he can get the war across the ocean, Germany could not win. Hitler knew the U.S. entering was certain defeat, because he could not invade the U.S. That's why we suffered no damage. He was hoping Japan could take care of us, distract us and make us fight the same 2 front war that they were fighting. Geography again, I'll say it, geography. All we had to do was hold out as long as we can, until Einstein and his boys got it right, and it was over.
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Awww... but see, I figure Hitler would lose the war against the U.S.
I am realizing how dumb this question is. Are people just looking for someone to beat the U.S. I remember when no one thought Mike Tyson could lose, they said Ali could beat him... which is true... but it doesn't matter. If anyone wants to see a nation that can beat the U.S. in war, look no further than China. There, Hitler would lose against the U.S. on his own stupity, which counts, an army is only is as good as it's head, and China now can beat the U.S. now. Simple.
U.S. in 1941 had Roosevelt leading Eisenhower, MacArthur, the U.S. Marines were not even in Europe, they were in the Pacific, which the U.S. fought by it's self, well supplying England with troops to fight Germany. Also, if you lived anywhere near a military base in the U.S., you know because in our history we mobilized many steel mills, and airplane tank factories everywhere. I live in a place that had a steel mill, airplane factory and air force base all within 5 miles of each other, and until it all closed in the 80's, that's how people here made money was through these industries. The U.S. mobilized all of it's resources after Pearl Harbor really quick, and all we had to do in 1941, was basically wait out until 1945 when we had the atomic bomb. We rebuild after Pearl Harbor really quickly, and we took a year to get everything ready, reload our Navy, and rush through the Pacific ocean with ease. Maybe it's because I live in an area with a lot of Marines, but I do not see us losing a war with Germany when our soldiers believe in the war we our fighting in, and the Holocaust would be good enough to get our soldiers fighting.
china doesn't stand a chance now or ever
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We're talking about U.S. against Germany, with no help from other countries, so no housing troops in Europe for the U.S. And you act as if the Germans were idiots, they had some of the smartest scietists in the world, you act as if they couldnt make a A-Bomb when its common knowledge they were so close, if germany had lasted a month or 2 longer it would have been ready, and that was while the constant bombing in europe was going on. Even if both germand and the u.s. had the same time to prepare germany would have won. They would have won at sea and at air with their u-boats and superior planes. why you cant see that i dunno, but believe what you wanna believe, even if it is the wrong thing to believe.
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PLUS the man who created the A-Bomb where was he from?
answer that question thank you...
IM OUT!!! ;D
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PLUS the man who created the A-Bomb where was he from?
answer that question thank you...
IM OUT!!! ;D
lol... woulda coulda. The bomb ended in out hands... Einstein ended up in our hands, all them scientist ended up in our hands. Weird how life ends up.
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PLUS the man who created the A-Bomb where was he from?
answer that question thank you...
IM OUT!!! ;D
lol... woulda coulda. The bomb ended in out hands... Einstein ended up in our hands, all them scientist ended up in our hands. Weird how life ends up.
why dnot u reply to my other post?
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germany was to busy testing their prototypes
plus we had better planes like b52's that fucked them up
as for invading we fucked them up also
they had a good advantage like omaha beach but we still conquered them
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germany was to busy testing their prototypes
plus we had better planes like b52's that fucked them up
as for invading we fucked them up also
they had a good advantage like omaha beach but we still conquered them
by we do u mean US or Germany?
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PLUS the man who created the A-Bomb where was he from?
answer that question thank you...
IM OUT!!! ;D
lol... woulda coulda. The bomb ended in out hands... Einstein ended up in our hands, all them scientist ended up in our hands. Weird how life ends up.
why dnot u reply to my other post?
the same reason why you didn't answer my post about were the war would be and time leading to the A-Bomb. No matter what you say, France would help us. Lets get some historical facts here. France and Germany at the time hated each other. They've hated each other for years, and they would help us. There is so much in history that happened that would not allow for this completely abstract question to happen. In order to pick a winner, you have to look at history, and history would not allow this war to happen as you explain. There has to be a ground war, in which case it would be in Europe because the only place a ground war would happen is Germany because France would help us store soldiers. Other than that, there is no ground war, therefore no war at all. You are arguing with a history major who happens to have an interest in WWII about who would win a hypothical war, that the way you're explain is historically impossible to happen. It just can never happen. And it could never even stay one on one. Russia and Germany were too different to co-exist, Facism and Communism are complete opposites, and at the time England was not going to let Germany run all over Europe like they were. Also, Germany was pulling resources from countries they took over, which under your assumption they didn't do that, and some of our resources were put into England, which in your assumption we still have. This question could never happen like you said, it's impossible. A straight war with U.S. vs. Germany as neighboring countries, Germany would win, but that's like asking how would a apple taste if it had an orange peel on it.
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to the ppl from the US that say Nazi-Germany wasnt superior... you oughta ask some European dudes who really faced the might of the Nazis.. your country wasnt taken over by the Nazis, basically all other Euro countries were lol. The army was so amazing, they trained the boys in the early 30's in the "Hitler Jugend" when they where just 10-16 years old... they taught em the whole attitude and ideology stuff.. you can tell kids that young all kind of retarded things. And 8 years later, the SS was ready. Damn ready.
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germany was to busy testing their prototypes
plus we had better planes like b52's that fucked them up
as for invading we fucked them up also
they had a good advantage like omaha beach but we still conquered them
You missing the fact they were fighting already since 1939..
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to the ppl from the US that say Nazi-Germany wasnt superior... you oughta ask some European dudes who really faced the might of the Nazis.. your country wasnt taken over by the Nazis, basically all other Euro countries were lol. The army was so amazing, they trained the boys in the early 30's in the "Hitler Jugend" when they where just 10-16 years old... they taught em the whole attitude and ideology stuff.. you can tell kids that young all kind of retarded things. And 8 years later, the SS was ready. Damn ready.
As I said, if we where in Europe, we'd lose, we'd get taken over. But the United States is so far away. The geography is in our favor.
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lol @ the geography. Japan destroyed you in 1 day. Please.
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lol @ the geography. Japan destroyed you in 1 day. Please.
you have a very skewed definition of destroyed
1 battle does not win you the war
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germany was to busy testing their prototypes
plus we had better planes like b52's that fucked them up
as for invading we fucked them up also
they had a good advantage like omaha beach but we still conquered them
The b52 bomber wasn't invented till the 60s
and Omaha Beach was in Noranmendy, Fr aFrance
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lol @ the geography. Japan destroyed you in 1 day. Please.
you have a very skewed definition of destroyed
1 battle does not win you the war
Yeah, 1 battle with all your ships destroyed!! In your own base. With Japaneses that luckly didnt choose to enter USA, cause if they did.. you were with no defence at all. I'm not saying they won the war, cause they didnt. I'm replying to the guy who said
As I said, if we where in Europe, we'd lose, we'd get taken over. But the United States is so far away. The geography is in our favor.
Yeah, right. ::)
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France? Help the US? YOU seem to forget something, M Dogg...France was completely taken over by Germany in LESS THAN TWO WEEKS
And to rebut what you're going to say "France had no time to prepare"...totally untrue. France definitely had time to prepare, but they didn't because they were foolish. Britain, France, and basically all of Europe KNEW that war was coming. First Germany took Sudetenland, which Britain and France appeased them for it (first sign of war). Then Germany kept taking stuff, and when they took Poland, war was fully on. Now, if you tell me France had no time to prepare, then you are very incorrect. They DID have time to prepare, they just DIDN'T prepare...very different things.
Canada did send forces in World War II, yes...but Mexico? PLEASE!!! Nazi Germany could have taken over Mexico, or could have at least set up major military bases in Mexico in no time flat. Once there were enough bases, troops, artillery, planes, and military operations, Germany would have invaded the US from the South, and IMO, they would have succeeded.
Or hell, maybe not even Mexico. Nazi Germany could have taken down Cuba very easily as well, and then launch their military operations against the US from there. Its what the Soviets were planning in the Cold War.
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lol @ the geography. Japan destroyed you in 1 day. Please.
actually it was a surprise attack we wernt ready for unless we knew
plus they did it on a certain day where we had are good ships out to destroy
kinda sad ya know
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germany was to busy testing their prototypes
plus we had better planes like b52's that fucked them up
as for invading we fucked them up also
they had a good advantage like omaha beach but we still conquered them
The b52 bomber wasn't invented till the 60s
and Omaha Beach was in Noranmendy, Fr aFrance
sorry did i say b52 i mean to say b29s
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lol @ the geography. Japan destroyed you in 1 day. Please.
actually it was a surprise attack we wernt ready for unless we knew
plus they did it on a certain day where we had are good ships out to destroy
kinda sad ya know
Kinda stupid. For you. Make a mistake like this one against Germany and game over in a week.
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lol @ the geography. Japan destroyed you in 1 day. Please.
you have a very skewed definition of destroyed
1 battle does not win you the war
Yeah, 1 battle with all your ships destroyed!! In your own base. With Japaneses that luckly didnt choose to enter USA, cause if they did.. you were with no defence at all. I'm not saying they won the war, cause they didnt. I'm replying to the guy who said
As I said, if we where in Europe, we'd lose, we'd get taken over. But the United States is so far away. The geography is in our favor.
Yeah, right. ::)
you're forgetting about chunks of land there, san diego was/is the biggest station on the westcoast along with BG's in washing....and i believe Guam too (at the time)
in Hawaii they just disabled one BG
anyways enough of this "if" shit, when ever anyone brings up their opinion in this thread.....another "IF" pops up. fact is germany was on the losing side, america was on the winning side....learn to deal with it
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God, ya' all are just making up stuff. Not even worth the time. As I said, the geography wins it for the U.S. Hitler was not sending his troops out of Europe, he was a foolish leader, and the U.S. rebuilt it's Navy very fast, so we could get there. Germany take over Mexico... like Mexico would allow that, then you are getting into Germany verses the U.S. and Mexico, that's not what you said. Face facts, the geography favors us, which is why we can be a world power, in Europe we're just another nation, here in North America, we are untouched by European powers, and when we are we pull off unset wins because of how expensive it is for other countries to be at war with us over here, ask England.
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"Like Mexico would allow that"
WHAT THE FUCK WOULD THEY DO ABOUT IT?? Don't let your latino heritage blind your from the facts, Dogg, Germany would have CRUSHED Mexico.
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yes i dont know any mex scientists cos they dont have any haha
germany would of squashed those pathetic mexcicans and took over their desert
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*shakes head*
no use debating with retarts.
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GREMANY woulda won back them any country hands down..
im not sonning anybody no more in this thread...
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germany didn't win so you can't son anyone on something that MIGHT have happened but never did
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germany didn't win so you can't son anyone on something that MIGHT have happened but never did
And Hitler beat himself, making dumb mistakes like invading Russia. In order to son people in this case, you take a situation that never happened, and made it so that you'll come out on top. You desire to "son" people is getting the best of you. Relax, breath, and remember, this is a situation that never happened, and would never happen.