West Coast Connection Forum
Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Machiavelli on July 28, 2004, 07:25:16 AM
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There are no collaborative relationship between Saddam and Al Qaeda regarding Sept. 11. That's true, but there were certainly links and ties between Saddam and Al Qaeda and that's provable.
Abu Musab al-Zarqawi (sp?) an Al Qada leader who found his way to Baghdad after being severely wounded fighting against American forces in Afghanistan.Zarqawi (sp?) arrived in Iraq in May of 2002 and had surgery in an Iraqi hospital, run by -- are you ready -- Uday Hussein. I believe that might be a tie, but there's more.
Next, the Al Qaeda big shot -- who was wanted by the USA -- traveled to Lebanon to meet with leaders of Hezbollah.(sp?) A short time after that meeting, in October of 2002, Lawrence Foley, an American official, was assassinated in Jordan. The arrested killers said Zarqawi(sp?) was involved in the plot.
Zarqawi(sp?) wound up back in Iraq after the assassination of Foley and met up with the Ansar al-Islam (sp?) group, which operated in Northern Iraq and is affiliated with Al Qaeda.
In January 2003, several Ansar terrorists were arrested in Britain and charged with planning to put Ricin in the military food supply. Some of those terrorists fingered Zarqawi(sp?) in the plot.
Right now, Zarqawi(sp?) is believed to be in Fallujah working with some of Saddam's former generals in planning terror attacks. Just last week he took credit for killing 13 people in a bombing.
I believe that's a lot of links and ties between Saddam, Iraq and Al Qaeda. But again, I believe the Commission when it says Saddam was not directly involved with Sept. 11. That’s true.
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Maybe I'm wrong, but when you run a country, you'd like to keep a good relation with your neighbors. Maybe that map is off, but Afganistan and Iraq are around the same area. Maybe I'm wrong, but meeting people does not make you guilty. You are missing two things here, you want to connect everybody to make things simple. Key facts here, Saddam is not, I repeat, not a true Muslim. Saddam is a socialist, who many Muslims actually didn't like except for his anti-American stands. Also Al Quada are hardcore Muslims, that don't like the United States. But one thing also has remained true over time, common enemies don't make allies.
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Afghanistan is pretty far away from Iraq, its like from LA to New York or farther.
Saddam didn't just meet him, He supported him and helped Zarqawi whose a leader of Al-Qaeda.
Also, how is Saddam being a socialist relevent? Is it because Muslims don´t like socialists and Al-Qaeda(which are extreme Muslims) don't like Socislits? I dont think Zarqawi cared because he was getting help from Saddam and his Regime.
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Osama bin laden openly stated he did not like saddam. Saddam didnt like al-queda.
Saddam didnt want any al-queda bases in his country.
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Osama bin laden openly stated he did not like saddam. Saddam didnt like al-queda.
Saddam didnt want any al-queda bases in his country.
That doesnt mean he doesnt support Al-Qaeda or has connections.
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That doesnt mean he doesnt support Al-Qaeda or has connections.
WHAT KINDA CONNECTIONS EXACTLY? WTF ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE? DID HE AID THEM? WHERES THE PROOF? CAN'T GO TO WAR WITHOUT PROOF.....NO WAIT, WE ALREADY DID THAT.
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That doesnt mean he doesnt support Al-Qaeda or has connections.
WHAT KINDA CONNECTIONS EXACTLY? WTF ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE? DID HE AID THEM? WHERES THE PROOF? CAN'T GO TO WAR WITHOUT PROOF.....NO WAIT, WE ALREADY DID THAT.
If you read my post you would know what kinda connections.
and the proof is from the 9/11 commision.
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Hold on. If you ask me "is it right to fight Al Qaeda?" i'll reply "Hell yeah it is!". If you ask me "is it right to fight Saddam?" i'll reply "Why not? He aint a saint, if we have a chance to actually keep him and maybe condamn him to death, why not? Just find some reasons and we have a war" (USA did it. I mean they found some reasons. But time revealed us they werent enought. But that's another story). But to say there are real connections between Al Quaeda and Saddam is too far! It's like saying there are connections between italian's Brigate Rosse and spanish's ETA. They both terrorists, they both bombs politics, they both against the Govern. But c'mon.. they are two different things and you dont defeat ETA if you defeat Brigate Rosse (and viceversa). For sure it's better to eliminate both of them, but to make a war you gotta have better reasons, cause you are invading another Country, you know. And if they dont attack you first, you cant.
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Okay so the Al-Queda dude got in Iraq. I don't see how that shows Saddam was collaborating with them.
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Okay so the Al-Queda dude got in Iraq. I don't see how that shows Saddam was collaborating with them.
Saddam wasnt directly collaborating with Al-Qaeda, but his regime was. Which makes a tie between Iraq, Sadddam, Al-Qaeda, and bin laden
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My little brother could be pen pals with a member of the hells angels,
Doesnt mean i am a member of the hells angels.
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My little brother could be pen pals with a member of the hells angels,
Doesn't mean i am a member of the hells angels.
Apples and Oranges
Saddams regime wasn't just a "pen pal", they supported and helped Al-Qaeda.
Was your little brother supporting and helping the hells angles?
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C'mon man. Like i said, to make a war and occupy another Country you need more than those "proofs". Unless they directly attack you, you cant do the same.
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Saddam wasnt directly collaborating with Al-Qaeda, but his regime was. Which makes a tie between Iraq, Sadddam, Al-Qaeda, and bin laden
so lemme get this straight.....some Al Qaeda member is found in Iraq and we got ourselves HUGE CONNECTIONS, TIES, RELATIONSHIPS, DICK SUCKIN SESSIONS AND SLUMBER PARTIES AT SADDAM'S HOUSE.
But when George Bush bends over for the Bin Laden family and his dad kicks it and has tea parties wit em IN the middle east, that aint nothin, its just business rite? when George sends like 10 planes of their family members back to middle east a day after tha attacks, that ain't connections, dats being a patriot. When he kills over 20,000 innocent civilians over a "MISTAKE", it's justified right? it was a mistake....Iran was the real ENEMY. IF WE DONT GET THEM THEY'RE GOING TO RAPE OUR KIDS.
STFU U YOUNG ASS NAGGIN ASS FEMALE.
PS: DIE.
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PS: DIE.
ROFL
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But when George Bush bends over for the Bin Laden family and his dad kicks it and has tea parties wit em IN the middle east, that aint nothin, its just business rite? when George sends like 10 planes of their family members back to middle east a day after tha attacks, that ain't connections, dats being a patriot. When he kills over 20,000 innocent civilians over a "MISTAKE", it's justified right? it was a mistake....
What the fuck are you talking about?
"George Bush kicks it and has tea parties with Bin Laden family in the middleast"
"George sends like 10 planes of their family members back to middle east a day after tha attacks"
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But when George Bush bends over for the Bin Laden family and his dad kicks it and has tea parties wit em IN the middle east, that aint nothin, its just business rite? when George sends like 10 planes of their family members back to middle east a day after tha attacks, that ain't connections, dats being a patriot. When he kills over 20,000 innocent civilians over a "MISTAKE", it's justified right? it was a mistake....
What the fuck are you talking about?
"George Bush kicks it and has tea parties with Bin Laden family in the middleast"
"George sends like 10 planes of their family members back to middle east a day after tha attacks"
(http://www.alcofielen.com/pics/forumpics/peopleSUCK/yourestupid/crack.JPG)
He did. Peep Fahrenheit 9/11 and all the evidence is on there.
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Your joking right?
The bush family have many many ties with the saudi royals and the bin ladens.
On the morning of september 11th, osamas brother was at a conference with bush sr.
The saudi royals and bin ladens invest millions (almost billions i believe) in the Bush' companies.
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TRY BILLIONS AND BILLIONS.
Machiavelli....IM SMOKIN CRACK? GO KICK ROCKS YOUNGSTA. U AINT BUILT FOR THIS.
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, I believe the Commission when it says Saddam was not directly involved with Sept. 11. That’s true.
so what was the point of this post? To show little connections?
A gangster has a relative that works for the LAPD which is a service brought by the California Government which is under the the U.S. Of America who's president is President Bush. Fucking Bush...i knew he was connected with sureños
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Machiavelli, have I not schooled you enough for you to make some random comment without any proof? I would invest some time here to make you look like a fool, but everyone else has already done that.
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A gangster has a relative that works for the LAPD which is a service brought by the California Government which is under the the U.S. Of America who's president is President Bush. Fucking Bush...i knew he was connected with sureños
Apples and Oranges my friend
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A gangster has a relative that works for the LAPD which is a service brought by the California Government which is under the the U.S. Of America who's president is President Bush. Fucking Bush...i knew he was connected with sureños
Apples and Oranges my friend
No, it's called an analogy.
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Machiavelli, have I not schooled you enough for you to make some random comment without any proof? I would invest some time here to make you look like a fool, but everyone else has already done that.
The proof is in the 9/11 commision if you read the whole report
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Machiavelli, have I not schooled you enough for you to make some random comment without any proof? I would invest some time here to make you look like a fool, but everyone else has already done that.
The proof is in the 9/11 commision if you read the whole report
The proof is on this forum that you're an idiot. What's your point?
If you show me proof that Saddam aided Al-Qaeda and has links to the organization, then I will be glad to easily provide proof that you're an idiot.
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If you show me proof that Saddam aided Al-Qaeda and has links to the organization, then I will be glad to easily provide proof that you're an idiot.
Did you even bother reading my Subject on this thread? It clearly shows ties/links between Al-Qaeda and Iraq.
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Your joking right?
The bush family have many many ties with the saudi royals and the bin ladens.
On the morning of september 11th, osamas brother was at a conference with bush sr.
The saudi royals and bin ladens invest millions (almost billions i believe) in the Bush' companies.
hmm now your saying this? You must of changed when Maradona made that thread about you, am I right?
Quote from: rampant on July 09, 2004, 09:41:37 PM
rod nice reply...........
if your gonna try and argue with us dont bring up some conspiracy shit about how our government is connected with the bin ladens.
explain that
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If you show me proof that Saddam aided Al-Qaeda and has links to the organization, then I will be glad to easily provide proof that you're an idiot.
Did you even bother reading my Subject on this thread? It clearly shows ties/links between Al-Qaeda and Iraq.
Yes, I read it, and it doesn't explain shit about the Iraqi government having ties to Al-Qaeda. It says that 1 guy went to Iraq and was assisted by an organization. Replace Iraq with U.S., and tell me if it still means that the U.S. government was "AIDING" him? No, an organization within the country did, not the U.S. government. That may not be the best example because in fact the U.S. did aid terrorists, dictators, etc for the last 60 years.
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Yes, I read it, and it doesn't explain shit about the Iraqi government having ties to Al-Qaeda. It says that 1 guy went to Iraq and was assisted by an organization. Replace Iraq with U.S., and tell me if it still means that the U.S. government was "AIDING" him? No, an organization within the country did, not the U.S. government. That may not be the best example because in fact the U.S. did aid terrorists, dictators, etc for the last 60 years.
OK, so an organization in IRAQ aided Zarqawi. So there you go, Iraq has a connection with Al Qaeda.
Which terrorists did the US help aid?
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Yes, I read it, and it doesn't explain shit about the Iraqi government having ties to Al-Qaeda. It says that 1 guy went to Iraq and was assisted by an organization. Replace Iraq with U.S., and tell me if it still means that the U.S. government was "AIDING" him? No, an organization within the country did, not the U.S. government. That may not be the best example because in fact the U.S. did aid terrorists, dictators, etc for the last 60 years.
OK, so an organization in IRAQ aided Zarqawi. So there you go, Iraq has a connection with Al Qaeda.
Which terrorists did the US help aid?
Wtf. Are you really this dumb or are you just putting up a good act? According to your "logic" (I had to put quotations around that because YOU and LOGIC sounds a bit weird in the same sentence) that would mean that an organization ran by terrorist supporters here in the U.S. aiding terrorists would mean that the U.S. has ties to terrorists?
In case you didn't know, we helped the Mujahiddeen, Taliban, Al Qaeda, we PAID Noreaga a yearly salary, we helped Saddam, we're supporting a dictator in Egypt, we're supporting the oppressive Saudi government, etc.
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In case you didn't know, we helped the Mujahiddeen, Taliban, Al Qaeda, we PAID Noreaga a yearly salary, we helped Saddam, we're supporting a dictator in Egypt, we're supporting the oppressive Saudi government, etc.
Mujahideen/taliban weren't terrorists at the time we were helping them i believe.
Al Qaeda - only if you believe conspiracy shit.
Noreuaga - was this before we went into panama or what.
Saddam - OK, true
Egypt - There government aren't terrorists
Saudi Government - There government aren't terrorists either.
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/me shakes head
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/me shakes head
/me shakes head as well
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/me shakes head
/me shakes head as well
Machiavelli shakes head as well
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In case you didn't know, we helped the Mujahiddeen, Taliban, Al Qaeda, we PAID Noreaga a yearly salary, we helped Saddam, we're supporting a dictator in Egypt, we're supporting the oppressive Saudi government, etc.
Mujahideen/taliban weren't terrorists at the time we were helping them i believe.
Al Qaeda - only if you believe conspiracy shit.
Noreuaga - was this before we went into panama or what.
Saddam - OK, true
Egypt - There government aren't terrorists
Saudi Government - There government aren't terrorists either.
Mujahideen/Taliban = human rights abuses since they entered the country
Noreaga = No, this was while he was a drug trafficker
Egypt = puppet-dictator
Saudi = human rights abuses
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/me shakes head
/me shakes head as well
Machiavelli shakes head as well
LOL. That was funny as fuck :D. Kinda didnt work huh? LMAO.
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Mujahideen/Taliban = human rights abuses since they entered the country
Noreaga = No, this was while he was a drug trafficker
Egypt = puppet-dictator
Saudi = human rights abuses
Whats your point though.
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In case you didn't know, we helped the Mujahiddeen, Taliban, Al Qaeda, we PAID Noreaga a yearly salary, we helped Saddam, we're supporting a dictator in Egypt, we're supporting the oppressive Saudi government, etc.
Mujahideen/taliban weren't terrorists at the time we were helping them i believe.
Al Qaeda - only if you believe conspiracy shit.
Noreuaga - was this before we went into panama or what.
Saddam - OK, true
Egypt - There government aren't terrorists
Saudi Government - There government aren't terrorists either.
Mujahideen/Taliban = human rights abuses since they entered the country
Noreaga = No, this was while he was a drug trafficker
Egypt = puppet-dictator
Saudi = human rights abuses
Whats your point though.
So not only are you dumb and ignorant, you also have problems remembering the stupid shit you say.
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i wana shake my head
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Machiavell please just give it up, your evidence is pure bullshit. Just leave it at that.
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Machiavell please just give it up, your evidence is pure bullshit. Just leave it at that.
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Machiavelli, you need to shut the fuck up. All your posts just make you look more and more like an ass. I'm not a politically advanced person, but even I know some of the shit you say is wrong.
Edit: In conclusion you get the
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wow and Mach loses again! not jus to Maradona this time, but everyone, wut a shame
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wow and Mach loses again! not jus to Maradona this time, but everyone, wut a shame
Get off my ass bitch
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wow and Mach loses again! not jus to Maradona this time, but everyone, wut a shame
Get off my ass bitch
crybaby :'(
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lol ;D