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In an interview with Hot 97’s Morning Show staff, Mase, Jim Jones and Cam’ron engaged in a heated debate, with the two Dip Set members questioning Mase’s authenticity.
On air, Mase recalled the cause of his split with Cam’ron, with whom he once rapped with. The incident started when Mase claimed he offered to split a $50,000 fee for appearing in Cam’s 1998 hit song “Horse-n-Carriage,” instead of him doing the song for free.
Diplomat CEO Jimmy Jones called the show enraged.
“I will do it to you duke," Jones said. "I don't like you. You shouldn't have came out your mouth. I'll put some dentures in your mouth. Go back down south with your congregation. Tell the truth. For you to sit there and lie...you are a reverend.”
Jones also charged that Mase left the game due to pressures from individuals in Harlem who extorted him.
Mase eventually gathered himself and denied the charges that he was forced out of Harlem. Mase explained that he had already purchased land in Atlanta, Georgia and was planning to move.
Continuing, he stated, in his slow tone, that after a close friend was stabbed, he headed down south and that it had nothing to do with unsavory characters forcing him to leave.
“People grow up, I don’t have time for that,” Mase said. “[During commercial break] I was praying for Jimmy, I love them dudes. It’s just sad when people don’t understand.”
Angry like Jones, Cam’ron called in shortly afterwards, questioning Mase’s motives for returning to the rap game.
“I’m just not into the lies I'm into the truth and that’s it. The only thing you did was took me to counseling, you broke out on everybody and left. That’s what you do, you did it before and you’re gonna do it again,” Cam stated on air.
“I’m not a chump like that. [Mase], tell them how you called me and asked me to do an album last week,” Cam told Mase. “[Diplomats are] gonna make $150 million off the liquor. There aint no money in this rap game. I just do the music because I am nice. I wish you the best, but tell the truth.”
Cam'ron even called Mase a fraud and said that he had a tape of one of Mase’s sermons, where he said rap music “is the devil.”
“You’re a reverend lying. I was there," Cam said. "You said rap is the devil at your speeches in church. I got it on tape…and [now] you’re rapping [again],” he said. “The reverend is up there lying. I wish you the best of luck, stop lying.”
Mase rebutted, calling the rappers thin-skinned. Mase did admit to Cam'ron's accusations surrounding his statements about rap but said, “When I think about how the people need what I have to say [I changed my view]. It’s just like money. The same money that buys marijuana, buys bibles. Rap is not really of the devil, it’s what people say in it.
“I cannot not express the truth because they’re sensitive,” Mase said. “I don’t have any problems with them. Even in the bible when a person knows that you come to say something powerful, they try to discredit your name. One word from God can wipe out years of wrongdoing.”
Mase, who said that he was going on the road with Usher to promote his new album, closed his appearance on the Hot 97 show with a prayer: “In the name of the Heavenly Father, I thank you today for forgiving me for all my wrong doing and shortcomings. I thank you for dying on the cross for all of my sins. I am healed, I am delivered and I am rich. Amen.”
Incidentally, Mase and Jim Jones will release albums on the same day, August 24.
Source: allhiphop.com
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Good for Mase
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un kasa was extorting his ass. mase is nothing but a liar. he has switched up styles so much its obvious that hes a fraud. i used to stick up for him when he was apart of coc cause he was nice as fuck, and even on bad boy i still liked him. i lost all respect for him once he came back. its obvious he came back cause he was broke.
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Is Good that he's back i dont think he's a lame for changing his way i good to change np on the.......
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I like Mase but I feel what Cam and dem are sayin. I mean how can you go from Rap to Church, Church to rap. Both are totally different in terms of jobs and livin.
!!!GIFTSET!!!
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Man, Mase helped give Cam some recognition and now they're talking shit on him because he changed his ways and cheated him outta case. Lame asses. Props to Mase for keeping composure and making them sound like fools.
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^not to mention if Mase didnt leave no one would listen to Cam. Cam'ron stole Mase's flow but made it lazy and immature.
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Are you guys serious? U think mase returned cuz of money then you are way off..........the guy has major dollars, royalties coming in like crazy (he actually had a good deal with Puff), hes not back for money. Whatever his reasons, its not like hes acting like a pimp or gangster or whatever, he's doing will smith type shit and his album isnt half bad
As for mase switching up styles, a lot of rappers do that....its called growing up. Ya, he was Murda Mase, then puff convinced him to do the shiny suit shit, and who wouldnt (be honest) for that type of money and fame..........now, mase is back on his own terms, being the real mase but people still want to hate
mase is still a pastor too, he hasnt quit doing that since he's been back in the rap game. Its not like hes out fucking bitces and snorting lines or something, he's proving tat not all rappers have to fit the sterotype and some of ya'll just cant believe it
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I think Cam was just mad cuz mase was saying how he got cam his start, bought him his first car amnd hsi label deal, which cam doesn deny...........
cam and Jim jones are very ignorant and bitter, its sad some of you guys would actually side with them when it is obvious how immature they really are.........besides, Jim Jones aint gonna sell shit next to mase aug.24..........peace
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wow i dont know what to say, i cant even come up wit a joke for this shit
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Mase is a puss. Listen to him not even stand up for himself. He should've compared his career to Cam'Ron's instead of taking it like a bitch.
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Minkaveli, i know its hard for you to comprehend but mase is trying to take the high road and not sound all vengeful and full of spite. This is the reason he didnt want to come back in the first place, cuz all these rappers act like children, none more so than the Diplomats
i mean, jim jones calling in, dissing mase, saying he got a 1/4 billion (ya right) dollars, plugs his album three times......
.he is like 35 acting like he's in junior high, its pathetic, trying to start shit with someone who has obviously changed for the better
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yea, mase will def kill jones in record sales, i really have no comment about this, cause i dont care much for any of the artists
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Mase is a puss. Listen to him not even stand up for himself. He should've compared his career to Cam'Ron's instead of taking it like a bitch.
Dude, he's a pastor (i believe)...they're suppossed to keep a cool head...he's not a "gangsta"
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haha @ people saying mase will sell more than jim jones. whats that have anything to do with the topic at hand? thats straight dickrider status. if mase was really cams boy, he would've done the video for free. you really think mase is gonna try and get brolic with some cats who actually still reside in harlem, when 2 of his mens were already murked? mase got his boy laddi to go down to atlanta with him to be born again too, and once he went back he was offed. goon squad had a bounty out on mase head. bentha was next, mark my words.
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Ha ha Dipset clowning wack ass Mase.
"I will do it to you duke"
LOL
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hey smartass ima put $100,000 that I dont have that mase will outsell jim jones. come on fool its Mase and "welcome back" got way more spins than "certified gangsters" you gotta be the dumbest person ever if u think jones will out sell mase! I bet u jim jones will do half of mase sales if hes lucky!
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Mase brought Cam into the game. I remember that "Horse And Carriage" song, the big hype was that this dude rapped with Mase. That's the success of his first album right there, with Mase being on the first single. Then Cam worked his way over to Roc A Fella and has sucked, as well as been an asshole, ever since.
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hey smartass ima put $100,000 that I dont have that mase will outsell jim jones. come on fool its Mase and "welcome back" got way more spins than "certified gangsters" you gotta be the dumbest person ever if u think jones will out sell mase! I bet u jim jones will do half of mase sales if hes lucky!
did i ever say he wouldn't? bringing sales into something it has nothing to do with because you don't have an actual argument is dickriding. its obvious none of you even heard the interview, cause you'd know that jimmy sonned the shit out of mase, and cam exposed his ass for lying when he asked him about the money, and he had to take a long pause and think about it. ms jones even went at him for it. all 3 callers clowned mase too. niggas on wcc are gonna hate on cam cause its wcc, of course they're going to take good ol mase side. cam wasnt even being ignorant, he was just straight up real. thats the only time i've ever heard him be 100% serious and rational. its funny how mase was dodgin questions and actin dumb when jim jones brought up that the goon squad put a bounty out on his head...thats the real reason his ass ran to atlanta
have any of you even read mase book? he talked about things that he shouldn't have talked about. just because you're "in touch with god" now doesn't mean you air people out. thats the biggest reason cam is mad.
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I don't like Mase or Cam and the Diplomats.
So I am not supporting any of them.
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I don't like Mase or Cam and the Diplomats.
So I am not supporting any of them.
word i could careless about either one of them. But i feel like won that lil bruhaha they had
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Mase is a puss. Listen to him not even stand up for himself. He should've compared his career to Cam'Ron's instead of taking it like a bitch.
I think he handled it rather well. Dipset wants him to get gassed up
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Reverends lying hold zero weight:
Jim Jones called in threatenin MA$E..
Jim Jones: Tell the truth the reason u really left the industry was u was cared u was next to be robbed..to get it
Ma$e: No thas not true
Jim Jones: Why u lying u were never gon split the 50,000 wif Cam for the horse and carriage video
*Cam calls in*
Cam: Why u lyin ! U called me the other day talkin bout lets do an ALBUM...Why u lying bout the 50,000 and cancun...That never happened stop lyin...U never said u and me were gon split the money...
Cam: Yo I just wanna sit back but tell the TRUTH…There was no 50,000 in CANCUN
MA$E: That’s not what I said
CAM: U a reverend and your LYIN…Why you lying..Didn't u say RAPPING is the DEVIL now your RAPPIN…You said that in CHURCH
Miss Jones: Do u feel that way MA$E
MA$E: NO
CAM: OH MY GOD
CAM: Buy the Cam album Buy the Jim Jones album... I wish u the best of luck..and STOP LYING
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Jim Jones straight murdered that fool ;D ;D:
"i'm A Put You In My Kufi Category" ;D ;D
"you Better Have Them Boys With Badges With You"
"i'll Do It To You Nigga"
"you Aint Gonna Be Smiling"
"you Aint Gonna Be Up In The Club"
"call Me One Eyed Willie, I Got The Goons With Me, Goony Goo Goo" ;D ;D
Jimmy Jones - I'll put dentures in your mouth, Im here...
Mase - God forgive you Jimmy
LMAO ;D ;D ;D
then lol at mase praying for jimmy during the commercial
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** Salutes Jimmy the Capo **
Why y'all gettin all mad talkin about...
talking about Jimmy and Cam sounded so damm ignorant....
They just calling tryin to clown dude and make their point... its an entertainment industry and that sh!t is pure entertainmnet....
And although Cam prolly had bad info about the 50 G's...
Its obvious Mase came back tothe game cuz he wanted more money...
Aint greed one of the 7 deadly sins???
** shakes head in disgust **
IF u didnt know by now,Jones is officially the most gangsta nicca in the fukin industry! How u gone embarrass a preacher on Live radio? bahahaa this shyt is so funny Im in tears
Of course before he hung up he had to promote his album...ON MY WAY TO CHURCH comin Aug. 24th
and lol at any of you thinking mase album is gonna be better than jimmys classic. of course its not gonna sell more simply cos its coming out independant.
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jim jones sucks. at least camron had some ok songs/albums, some... jim jones is ass
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jim jones sucks. at least camron had some ok songs/albums, some... jim jones is ass
*listens to ryder music mixtape*
*laughts at this chump*
its obvious you cant handle powerful music, stay in your corner chump, you aint built for this.
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Is it just me, or what exactly is pussy about moving down south to get away from Harlem, where Ma$e knew there were kats after his life. This stupid Jim Jones guy seems to think that is something he can clown Ma$e for? Hmm, now let me see, um, 1)stay in Harlem and get shot, or 2) follow your new religious attitude, and move down south where you will be safe? It's a hard choice I have to say 8)
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jim jones sucks. at least camron had some ok songs/albums, some... jim jones is ass
*listens to ryder music mixtape*
*laughts at this chump*
its obvious you cant handle powerful music, stay in your corner chump, you aint built for this.
powerfull? ??? ::)
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The audio of this is up at hiphopgame.com
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I think Mase handled it very maturely. LOL @ Mase just saying "wow" while Jones be wildin on the phone. And LMAO @ the idiot promoting his album before hanging up. That shit was totally planned in advance
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I think Mase handled it very maturely. LOL @ Mase just saying "wow" while Jones be wildin on the phone. And LMAO @ the idiot promoting his album before hanging up. That shit was totally planned in advance
I agree. Mase kept his composure the whole time while Jim Jones and Cam sounded like idiots screaming at him and threatening him over the phone. They tried to act gangsta but came off as two loud idiots.
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I think Mase handled it very maturely. LOL @ Mase just saying "wow" while Jones be wildin on the phone. And LMAO @ the idiot promoting his album before hanging up. That shit was totally planned in advance
I agree. Mase kept his composure the whole time while Jim Jones and Cam sounded like idiots screaming at him and threatening him over the phone. They tried to act gangsta but came off as two loud idiots.
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call me one eyed willy from now on, i got my goons with me - Jim Jones
hahahahaha
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LMAO @ Mase, he just kept saying "Wow"
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call me one eyed willy from now on, i got my goons with me - Jim Jones
hahahahaha
haha jones had mase more quiet than a fucking church mouse.
id call in too if some bitch was assuming shit about me and coming at me sideways
people are acting like jones called in just for the hell of it
"that you on the line betha? that you betha? you already know why you left harlem, r.i.p. baby mane and r.i.p. pop laddi. thats why you left harlem... you already know why you left harlem, this me, i dont care what ya say on the radio, this me, i know ya. don't play with me brotha, ain't nothing changed. you know, tell the people what happened with laddi, did laddi escort you out of harlem before?"
lol @ mase trying to front like he would split the money with cam, when he never even brought it up to him before. mase is just trying to look good in front of the people.
cam shut his whole shit down when he called out mase on saying rap was the devil. "you have a good life, and a good career, stop lying!"
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LMAO @ Mase, he just kept saying "Wow"
Better than trying to argue with those two
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how could mase argue doggie, its obvious he was lying. he is too slow to argue anyway
GOONIE GOO GOO!!!
(http://img46.exs.cx/img46/909/goonies.jpg)
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^^ LoL, somebody got too much time on their hands.. :D
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Are you guys serious? U think mase returned cuz of money then you are way off..........the guy has major dollars, royalties coming in like crazy (he actually had a good deal with Puff), hes not back for money. Whatever his reasons, its not like hes acting like a pimp or gangster or whatever, he's doing will smith type shit and his album isnt half bad
As for mase switching up styles, a lot of rappers do that....its called growing up. Ya, he was Murda Mase, then puff convinced him to do the shiny suit shit, and who wouldnt (be honest) for that type of money and fame..........now, mase is back on his own terms, being the real mase but people still want to hate
mase is still a pastor too, he hasnt quit doing that since he's been back in the rap game. Its not like hes out fucking bitces and snorting lines or something, he's proving tat not all rappers have to fit the sterotype and some of ya'll just cant believe it
Word. He's probably the realest cat in rap music for real
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how could mase argue doggie, its obvious he was lying. he is too slow to argue anyway
GOONIE GOO GOO!!!
(http://img46.exs.cx/img46/909/goonies.jpg)
^^^LMFAO I love this guy...he's great...