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Title: More than 322 dead, (more than 155 kids) after terror attack in Russia
Post by: Jome on August 31, 2004, 11:19:31 PM
Gunmen seize Russian school

Wednesday, September 1, 2004 Posted: 0702 GMT (1502 HKT)

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Chechnya (Russia)

MOSCOW, Russia (Reuters) -- Armed attackers on Wednesday took at least 200 schoolchildren hostage in the southern Russian province of North Ossetia, Itar-Tass news agency quoted local officials as saying.

Interfax news agency quoted local police as saying women and men wearing belts of explosives were among the attackers in the Ossetian town of Bislan, not far from the rebel province of Chechnya.

A gunbattle broke out with police near the building after the assault on the school. It said at least one man had been killed in the shootout.

The agency said the gunmen may also have attacked a second school, but other agencies did not confirm this.

The gunmen staged their attack on the first day of the new school year.

Russian President Vladimir Putin's envoy in the region said: "At the moment police are being called to the scene. It is not immediately clear how many schoolchildren and parents have been taken.

"There is a shootout in the area," the envoy, Vladimir Yakovlev said.


http://edition.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/09/01/russia.school.reut/index.html


Title: Re: Gunmen seize Russian school, 200 children taken hostages
Post by: ARYC on August 31, 2004, 11:50:05 PM
whoever did this is a piece of shit , I don't care why they're doing it , they are pieces of shit
Title: Re: Gunmen seize Russian school, 200 children taken hostages
Post by: Entreri117 on September 01, 2004, 12:22:49 AM
These people should be flown in a plane at 30,000 feet and dropped with no parachute.
Title: Re: Gunmen seize Russian school, 200 children taken hostages
Post by: Trauma-san on September 01, 2004, 05:26:11 AM
There's evil walking the earth in Bislan.
Title: Re: Gunmen seize Russian school, 200 children taken hostages
Post by: eS El Duque on September 01, 2004, 09:27:46 AM
Acts like this I say, "Just nuke the fuckers."
Title: Re: Gunmen seize Russian school, 200 children taken hostages
Post by: lil layzie on September 01, 2004, 10:30:28 AM
Its ahppening in North Kaukasus(russai) not in chechenya!

BTW I say that they will kill them all,its very difficult....
Title: Re: Gunmen seize Russian school, 200 children taken hostages
Post by: Montana00 on September 01, 2004, 01:47:55 PM
I dont know much about russia, so give me some space.

Well here's the situation. Chechnyian (cant spell that) terrorists took a hold of a school in russia. There reasons behind it are "Get out of chechnia, and release prisoners." My thoughts go both ways.

I can understand that they want russian military out of their country (its a country right?), so i kind of feel for them, i wouldnt want an army from a different country in my country.

Terrorism has got to be the worst way to get your point across. How can these people think that holding a school hostage is a way to get your point across?

The minute they took children hostage, they lost any respect, or taking anyone hostage for that matter. I just dont understand how some people could do this kind of thing.
Title: Re: Gunmen seize Russian school, 200 children taken hostages
Post by: Sikotic™ on September 01, 2004, 01:52:38 PM
Why the kids? Fuckin low lifes
Title: Re: Gunmen seize Russian school, 200 children taken hostages
Post by: white Boy on September 01, 2004, 04:40:17 PM
shit is horrible
Title: Re: Gunmen seize Russian school, 200 children taken hostages
Post by: Jome on September 01, 2004, 07:11:04 PM
They have flown in special task forces, I say there's a 1.1 to 1 chance that they will be raiding the place during the next 12-15 hours..
That's what they did last time, when Tsjetsjenian (Norwegian spelling) terrorists took over that theater in Moscow.
Neither Putin nor Russia is known to negotiate with terrorists.
Title: Re: Gunmen seize Russian school, 200 children taken hostages
Post by: white Boy on September 01, 2004, 08:14:14 PM
^yea... i checked out that mtv special, about that theater... to bad i didnt see the whole thing.. shit was crazy... it was phat too cause i didnt need to read the subtitiles :)
Title: Re: Gunmen seize Russian school, 200 children taken hostages
Post by: eS El Duque on September 01, 2004, 08:55:06 PM
didn't like more than half the people died becuase of the gas? they never woke up.
Title: Re: Gunmen seize Russian school, 200 children taken hostages
Post by: ARYC on September 01, 2004, 10:38:22 PM
^^^yup I heard it was the type of gas they use with cancer patients that are in the last stages and the pain is so great that even morphine can't ease the pain , so u can imagine what it could do to a normal health person
Title: Re: Gunmen seize Russian school, 200 children taken hostages
Post by: Nutty on September 02, 2004, 03:53:29 AM
I dunno the whole story & history of the Russian/Chechnyan war. Shit is crazy man. Saw this yesterday morning on BBC. Parents holding up white cloths, trying to get into the school, heard one was shot trying to do juss that. Blaming Black Widows or something.

When are they taking ppl to the moon? Sign me up!
Title: Re: Gunmen seize Russian school, 200 children taken hostages
Post by: eS El Duque on September 02, 2004, 04:14:31 AM
^^^yup I heard it was the type of gas they use with cancer patients that are in the last stages and the pain is so great that even morphine can't ease the pain , so u can imagine what it could do to a normal health person

they actually had a shot to wake everyone up, but there wasn't enough nurse/docters to give the shot..so that's basically why most of them died
Title: Re: Gunmen seize Russian school, 200 children taken hostages
Post by: Gangstauu on September 02, 2004, 06:03:57 AM
Muslims dont care if it are kids or whut
They maybe even prefer that so they cant make any kids
it's a sad world
Title: Re: Gunmen seize Russian school, 200 children taken hostages
Post by: 7even on September 02, 2004, 06:29:42 AM
they just released 26 children and women without anything in return
Title: Re: Gunmen seize Russian school, 200 children taken hostages
Post by: Entreri117 on September 02, 2004, 01:33:36 PM
When are they taking ppl to the moon? Sign me up!

LOL, me too
Title: Re: Gunmen seize Russian school, 200 children taken hostages
Post by: white Boy on September 02, 2004, 01:42:31 PM
they just released 26 children and women without anything in return
do u mean that as in.. they are such nice guys :/
Title: Re: Gunmen seize Russian school, 200 children taken hostages
Post by: jeromechickenbone on September 02, 2004, 02:58:27 PM
Yeah this shit has been going on a lot lately - the chechnian ladies blowing up the planes, strapping themselves with bombs in subways, etc.  Was it last year that they took over some kind of theater with several hundered hostages? over 120 of those hostages died.  This shit is disgusting and has been happening frequently over the last several years. Just like somebody else said, yeah now i'm gonna respect their message because they are taking helpless children hostage. assholes
Title: Re: Gunmen seize Russian school, 200 children taken hostages
Post by: Immortal on September 02, 2004, 03:19:58 PM
Man im tryin to be as neutral in this shit as possible, but if i were Putin, Id give these Chechesns their land and be done with it already and end this stupid war. THey been living in it for ages and if they want it so badly that they are willing to blow up peeps and take hostages, etc...then hell yes give it to them, be the bigger man. All this could so easily have been avoided...
Title: Re: Gunmen seize Russian school, 200 children taken hostages
Post by: 7even on September 02, 2004, 03:26:09 PM
they just released 26 children and women without anything in return
do u mean that as in.. they are such nice guys :/

aight for a start Im just spittin FACTS. without any opinion or statement of mine afterwards.

second.. there's no way in hell Id risk the life of innocent children for anything in the god damn world. still, I think it's fucked up those ppl wont get their fuckin land, and still, I think they have a better reason to do it than some mofos who are just doin it for ransom .. money - who you probably considered gangsta.
Title: Re: Gunmen seize Russian school, 200 children taken hostages
Post by: eS El Duque on September 03, 2004, 06:23:52 PM
150+ dead..most children  :(

http://www.canada.com/news/world/story.html?id=08f0fbb0-52ea-4d8f-ad62-6f78136b4b8d

shits gon change
Title: Re: More than 200 dead, over 600 hospitalized after terror attack in Russia
Post by: Montana00 on September 03, 2004, 07:14:42 PM
it was hard to look at the photos of the aftermath. fucking people with no heart to just take childrens lives. Killing children doesnt help your case, it just makes it worse.
Title: Re: More than 200 dead, over 600 hospitalized after terror attack in Russia
Post by: Entreri117 on September 03, 2004, 08:16:16 PM
So, because the Russian "commando's" raided the school, the terrorists killed 150 children?

Go Russia  ::)
Title: Re: More than 200 dead, over 600 hospitalized after terror attack in Russia
Post by: Jome on September 03, 2004, 08:49:57 PM
So, because the Russian "commando's" raided the school, the terrorists killed 150 children?

Go Russia  ::)

The terrorists shot at children trying to escape, so they had to do something..
The scene looked like total chaos though, the military/police looked to have no control what so ever.
Title: Re: More than 200 dead, over 600 hospitalized after terror attack in Russia
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on September 03, 2004, 09:14:05 PM
It was disgusting taking it to a school, defence of land does not give carte blanche to commit any sort of crimes
Title: Re: More than 200 dead, over 600 hospitalized after terror attack in Russia
Post by: eS El Duque on September 03, 2004, 09:57:45 PM
shooting at children...jesus christ  >:(
Title: Re: More than 200 dead, over 600 hospitalized after terror attack in Russia
Post by: mauzip on September 04, 2004, 01:14:18 AM
It was disgusting taking it to a school, defence of land does not give carte blanche to commit any sort of crimes
Title: Re: More than 200 dead, over 600 hospitalized after terror attack in Russia
Post by: mauzip on September 04, 2004, 01:16:11 AM
This action was by the way financed by Al Quada... also, at least 10 of the hostage takers were Arabs.
Title: Re: More than 200 dead, over 600 hospitalized after terror attack in Russia
Post by: 7even on September 04, 2004, 02:57:09 AM
god damn, the Russian "swat" cant do something right. they fucked up with the theater stuff, now they fucked up in this case. I also wonder how this can  possibly be less fucked up than simply releasing a few rebelling dudes.
I dont know if there actually was a right way to solve that situation, but I definitely know this wasnt the right way.
Title: Re: More than 200 dead, over 600 hospitalized after terror attack in Russia
Post by: mauzip on September 04, 2004, 03:18:27 AM
There wouldn't have been a right way. I'm sure they would have killed lots of hostages anyhow.

The hostage takers and the Russian army agreed that the army could pick up dead body's out of the gym. When they did that, the hostage takers opened the fire. What were the Russians supposed to do then?
Title: Re: More than 200 dead, over 600 hospitalized after terror attack in Russia
Post by: white Boy on September 04, 2004, 04:04:27 AM
terrible.. this shit is so fucked up
Title: Re: More than 200 dead, over 600 hospitalized after terror attack in Russia
Post by: lil layzie on September 04, 2004, 04:15:02 AM
300 are dead,so 50 more or less in this case dont mean shit,but Putin has to stay hard cause if he released them then his nation would say ooow what an bitch!
Title: Re: Gunmen seize Russian school, 200 children taken hostages
Post by: Nutty on September 04, 2004, 04:57:14 AM
they just released 26 children and women without anything in return

The captors fired upon them as they were fleeing the school, dunno for sure, but thas when Russian troops decided to storm in.

W/ all this bs happening around the world, u hope to God that there is an after life.

LET ME IN, :).
Title: Re: Gunmen seize Russian school, 200 children taken hostages
Post by: mauzip on September 04, 2004, 05:04:08 AM
they just released 26 children and women without anything in return

The captors fired upon them as they were fleeing the school, dunno for sure, but thas when Russian troops decided to storm in.



Incorrect.

When the Russians were storming in there was a hole in a wall from a bomb that exploded. A lot of kids tried to escape through that hole, but as they did that the terrorists fired upon them.
Title: Re: More than 200 dead, over 600 hospitalized after terror attack in Russia
Post by: bez on September 04, 2004, 05:16:52 AM
R.I.P

Fucked up shit.
Title: Re: More than 322 dead, (more than 155 kids) after terror attack in Russia
Post by: eS El Duque on September 04, 2004, 11:00:31 AM
if these terrorists are fromt eh arab states like most newspapers are saying...i wonder whats going to happen in the next few weeks
Title: Re: Gunmen seize Russian school, 200 children taken hostages
Post by: Suffice on September 04, 2004, 03:48:11 PM
I dont know much about russia, so give me some space.

Well here's the situation. Chechnyian (cant spell that) terrorists took a hold of a school in russia. There reasons behind it are "Get out of chechnia, and release prisoners." My thoughts go both ways.

I can understand that they want russian military out of their country (its a country right?), so i kind of feel for them, i wouldnt want an army from a different country in my country.



Nah, Chechnya ain't a country. It's an autonomic region in Russia such as for example the Basque Region in Spain. As far as i know, chechnya hasn't been independent for centuries. Before it was part of the soviet union they were part of the Russian Empire for years and years. They want independence because they have oil and they want to keep it for themselves and Russia doesnt want to let them go for several reasons. For one, they want to keep the oil rich region. Another reason is that Russia has many Autonomies within it, and if it lets Chechnya go, all the others will follow the example and start revolting, and in the end, there won't be anything left of Russia. Also, there are influential people in the government who benefit from the conflicts in the Chechnya region because of Military sales and such things. Obviously it's wrong but there's nothing the Russians can do about it. Russia can put and end to the war in no time, but it's not something they're gonna do because as i mentioned, it benefits many high ranking people in the Military and Government. These terrorist acts are a real pussy way of trying to get independence though, i can't believe those fuckers consider themselves real men (and chechens are known for their machoness) and shit blowing up little kids and shooting kids in the back while they're trying to escape. That's the lowest of the low, those people will do anything to get theirs
Title: Re: More than 322 dead, (more than 155 kids) after terror attack in Russia
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on September 07, 2004, 06:08:05 PM
Yes the Chechens want independence as part of some covert effort to seize control of Mother Rassias resources.

They wouldnt want independence because....um....its their country  :o
Title: Re: Gunmen seize Russian school, 200 children taken hostages
Post by: Trauma-san on September 07, 2004, 07:34:09 PM
Man im tryin to be as neutral in this shit as possible, but if i were Putin, Id give these Chechesns their land and be done with it already and end this stupid war. THey been living in it for ages and if they want it so badly that they are willing to blow up peeps and take hostages, etc...then hell yes give it to them, be the bigger man. All this could so easily have been avoided...

Immortal: I'm coming over to your house, and I'm gonna rape your woman, and kill your kids, and then burn the place down with their bodies locked inside....
















Unless you give me 1000 dollars in my paypal account.  Come on.  Be the bigger man. 









Conclusion: Your logic has holes in it.  You're a pussy. 
Title: Re: Gunmen seize Russian school, 200 children taken hostages
Post by: Trauma-san on September 07, 2004, 07:34:39 PM
they just released 26 children and women without anything in return
do u mean that as in.. they are such nice guys :/

aight for a start Im just spittin FACTS. without any opinion or statement of mine afterwards.

second.. there's no way in hell Id risk the life of innocent children for anything in the god damn world. still, I think it's fucked up those ppl wont get their fuckin land, and still, I think they have a better reason to do it than some mofos who are just doin it for ransom .. money - who you probably considered gangsta.

Seven: I'm coming over to your house, and I'm gonna rape your woman, and kill your kids, and then burn the place down with their bodies locked inside....
















Unless you give me 1000 dollars in my paypal account.  Come on.  Be the bigger man. 









Conclusion: Your logic has holes in it.  You're a pussy. 
Title: Re: Gunmen seize Russian school, 200 children taken hostages
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on September 07, 2004, 07:43:05 PM
they just released 26 children and women without anything in return
do u mean that as in.. they are such nice guys :/

aight for a start Im just spittin FACTS. without any opinion or statement of mine afterwards.

second.. there's no way in hell Id risk the life of innocent children for anything in the god damn world. still, I think it's fucked up those ppl wont get their fuckin land, and still, I think they have a better reason to do it than some mofos who are just doin it for ransom .. money - who you probably considered gangsta.

Seven: I'm coming over to your house, and I'm gonna rape your woman, and kill your kids, and then burn the place down with their bodies locked inside....
















Unless you give me 1000 dollars in my paypal account.  Come on.  Be the bigger man. 









Conclusion: Your logic has holes in it.  You're a pussy. 

This is the most stupidest and retardly incorrect analogy ever. It is a complete 360 degree shift from the actual reality.
The Chechens want independence. They are not Russians. They were invaded couple years back by Russia. Their city is being carpet bombed.
Their women are being raped, according to Amnesty International. The Russian invading army is complicated in severe human rights abuses in Chechnya, including rape, indiscriminate shooting, executions and having fuckin camps. This is not anti Bush propaganda, its the truth.
The fact that you would dare suggest that it is Chechens raping Russian women, proves you know nothing about the world, or foreign affairs, and thus you shouldnt be commenting on things you dont understand and/or fully grasp. Also, there is nothing relevent to the extortion you suggest. Where the fuck did you get this idea?

Conclusion : You have no logic. You are an idiot.
Title: Re: More than 322 dead, (more than 155 kids) after terror attack in Russia
Post by: Jome on September 07, 2004, 08:22:41 PM
Trauma got this shit twisted.
Chechen's are being killed, executed for no other reason than being Chechen, on a every single day basis.
They live in poor refugee camps controlled by Russian military, with little to no food, with little to no medical resources, scared to death thinking about who the Russians gonna kill, rape or torture today.

A Chechen woman made a documentary with a hidden camera from inside one of these camps, and their conditions seemed almost as bad as Jewish prisoners during WWII. The Russian military some times did razzias looking for extremists, and if they found none, they just took a couple of random men as prisoners, maybe with some women "to have fun with"..

This does not justify killing children in terror acts, but goes to show that the average Chechen are not crazy terrorists who hates Russia bad enough to kill a couple hundred children.
Most Chechen's condamn the terror act in the same way everybody else does, they just want their freedom, but taking children hostages was just the dumbest and worst way to get the worlds attention.

Title: Re: More than 322 dead, (more than 155 kids) after terror attack in Russia
Post by: Immortal on September 07, 2004, 09:05:03 PM
Funny thing is that there are really two separate independence movements in Chechnya today. Both are for a independent Chechnya but one is being influenced heavily by Al Qaida recently since we haven't stepped in to hold the Russians accountable for their actions. The other is a moderate group of Chechnya's who dislike extremist ideology but also want a free and democratic Chechnya most of whom are made up of the old guard of fighters. While the later group of newly Al Qiada influenced fighters is quickly gathering support among the young men and kids in Chechnya. Seems Al Qiada has seen and realized that the best way to take over any movement is to paint the older generation as being weak and to target the younger and not so wise generation with promises of revenge for old crimes and by throwing money and arms around like as if they grew on trees. They seem to play into the young male eagerness for conflict and glory. Kind of reminds me of what Hitler and the NAZI's did in Germany.


REgardless, we can only wait for a nationailst Chechen movement to arise up in the future hopefully so that both Chechen and RUssian sides can come together at the negotiation table. This terrorist influence must be stopped.

Title: Re: Gunmen seize Russian school, 200 children taken hostages
Post by: Tical on September 07, 2004, 09:05:35 PM
This is the most stupidest and retardly incorrect analogy ever. It is a complete 360 degree  shift from the actual reality.
The Chechens want independence. They are not Russians. They were invaded couple years back by Russia. Their city is being carpet bombed.
Their women are being raped, according to Amnesty International. The Russian invading army is complicated in severe human rights abuses in Chechnya, including rape, indiscriminate shooting, executions and having fuckin camps. This is not anti Bush propaganda, its the truth.
The fact that you would dare suggest that it is Chechens raping Russian women, proves you know nothing about the world, or foreign affairs, and thus you shouldnt be commenting on things you dont understand and/or fully grasp. Also, there is nothing relevent to the extortion you suggest. Where the fuck did you get this idea?

Conclusion : You have no logic. You are an idiot.

i agree wit u n all but lol this part is somethin to think about
Title: Re: Gunmen seize Russian school, 200 children taken hostages
Post by: Immortal on September 07, 2004, 09:11:31 PM
This is the most stupidest and retardly incorrect analogy ever. It is a complete 360 degree  shift from the actual reality.
The Chechens want independence. They are not Russians. They were invaded couple years back by Russia. Their city is being carpet bombed.
Their women are being raped, according to Amnesty International. The Russian invading army is complicated in severe human rights abuses in Chechnya, including rape, indiscriminate shooting, executions and having fuckin camps. This is not anti Bush propaganda, its the truth.
The fact that you would dare suggest that it is Chechens raping Russian women, proves you know nothing about the world, or foreign affairs, and thus you shouldnt be commenting on things you dont understand and/or fully grasp. Also, there is nothing relevent to the extortion you suggest. Where the fuck did you get this idea?

Conclusion : You have no logic. You are an idiot.

i agree wit u n all but lol this part is somethin to think about

gimme a break, everyone makes typos
Title: Re: More than 322 dead, (more than 155 kids) after terror attack in Russia
Post by: ARYC on September 07, 2004, 11:00:40 PM
"It is a complete 360 degree shift from the actual reality"

THAT bad huh? ;D
Title: Re: Gunmen seize Russian school, 200 children taken hostages
Post by: Tical on September 07, 2004, 11:04:32 PM
This is the most stupidest and retardly incorrect analogy ever. It is a complete 360 degree  shift from the actual reality.
The Chechens want independence. They are not Russians. They were invaded couple years back by Russia. Their city is being carpet bombed.
Their women are being raped, according to Amnesty International. The Russian invading army is complicated in severe human rights abuses in Chechnya, including rape, indiscriminate shooting, executions and having fuckin camps. This is not anti Bush propaganda, its the truth.
The fact that you would dare suggest that it is Chechens raping Russian women, proves you know nothing about the world, or foreign affairs, and thus you shouldnt be commenting on things you dont understand and/or fully grasp. Also, there is nothing relevent to the extortion you suggest. Where the fuck did you get this idea?

Conclusion : You have no logic. You are an idiot.

i agree wit u n all but lol this part is somethin to think about

gimme a break, everyone makes typos

first of all that aint a typo, and i wasnt complaining i was jus lettin him know u lil bitch
secondly, wtf u mean "gimme a break", i didnt say anything to ur bitch ass. if ur his lil online girlfriend coo, but hop off my nuts
Title: Re: Gunmen seize Russian school, 200 children taken hostages
Post by: Immortal on September 07, 2004, 11:23:15 PM
This is the most stupidest and retardly incorrect analogy ever. It is a complete 360 degree  shift from the actual reality.
The Chechens want independence. They are not Russians. They were invaded couple years back by Russia. Their city is being carpet bombed.
Their women are being raped, according to Amnesty International. The Russian invading army is complicated in severe human rights abuses in Chechnya, including rape, indiscriminate shooting, executions and having fuckin camps. This is not anti Bush propaganda, its the truth.
The fact that you would dare suggest that it is Chechens raping Russian women, proves you know nothing about the world, or foreign affairs, and thus you shouldnt be commenting on things you dont understand and/or fully grasp. Also, there is nothing relevent to the extortion you suggest. Where the fuck did you get this idea?

Conclusion : You have no logic. You are an idiot.

i agree wit u n all but lol this part is somethin to think about

gimme a break, everyone makes typos

first of all that aint a typo, and i wasnt complaining i was jus lettin him know u lil bitch
secondly, wtf u mean "gimme a break", i didnt say anything to ur bitch ass. if ur his lil online girlfriend coo, but hop off my nuts

lolz!!  ;D
Title: Re: More than 322 dead, (more than 155 kids) after terror attack in Russia
Post by: Don Rizzle on September 08, 2004, 03:16:31 AM
welcome back the soviet union to russia, look how the government is handleing the aftermath. its lied about how many died, its had negative reporters/editors poisened smeared or sacked etc

but maybe more importantly why couldn't russias security forces run an organised opporation? they didn't contrl the armed parents who probably caused more loss of life than necessarily happenned. they stormed the school when they didn't even know hwere the terrorists were positioned and went in ill prepared some not even wearing thier slug proof vests.
Title: Re: More than 322 dead, (more than 155 kids) after terror attack in Russia
Post by: Rain on September 08, 2004, 03:44:00 AM
R.I.P.

My thoughts are with the victims and their families of those truley tragic and sickening events


that shit about them releasing some hostages during the seige but then making the parents with more then one child choose which child they would take is truly fucked up.
Title: Re: More than 322 dead, (more than 155 kids) after terror attack in Russia
Post by: 7even on September 08, 2004, 03:57:36 AM



that shit about them releasing some hostages during the seige but then making the parents with more then one child choose which child they would take is truly fucked up.

 :o  :-X
Title: Re: More than 322 dead, (more than 155 kids) after terror attack in Russia
Post by: ARYC on September 08, 2004, 06:43:18 AM
^^^exactly
Title: Re: More than 322 dead, (more than 155 kids) after terror attack in Russia
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on September 08, 2004, 11:09:49 AM
Ahhh blame it on the nicotine withdrawal