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Title: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: Don Rizzle on September 06, 2004, 08:39:03 AM
Four out of five people want the legal smoking age to be raised from 16 to 18 to deter young people from taking up the habit, a BBC poll suggests.

I totally agree with this i think the italians have got it right, smoking age = 18 drinking age = 16 we have it the opposite way round. when i was 14 i rarely had trouble buying ciggarettes, i think people start too young and they often carry on that habbit and not to mention the waste of money it is. oh and by the way this is coming from a smoker i have been on and off since about the age of 13/14 and i can't shake it now i'm almost 21.
Title: Re: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: Don Seer on September 06, 2004, 08:43:22 AM
sounds interesting...

i started smoking at 17, and gave up at 23

i'm for it :)
Title: Re: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: Shallow on September 06, 2004, 08:46:52 AM
drinking age = 16?


 In Canada it's 19 for smoking and drinking. 16 is way too young to drink, or smoke. I do neither but that's a personal choice. If 16 year olds want to do either it is still easily accesible but to publicly condone it is just stupid. Here all the 13 to 16 year olds think it's cool to be over 19 so they can legally do all that stuff so they do it. If the age was 16 then you'd see all the 10-13 year olds doing it, and that would be ridiculous.
Title: Re: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: Montana00 on September 06, 2004, 09:31:06 AM
dam i have to wait 18 till i can "legally" smoke.
Title: Re: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: white Boy on September 06, 2004, 09:57:22 AM
smokin is dumb.. but as long as we live, a huge part of the population will continue to do it. wether its illegal or legal,... even if they get fuckin facts shoved in their face that smoking kills... i was one of these people, yet i quit, and am so happy i was able to
Title: Re: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on September 06, 2004, 10:23:54 AM
yea, like that's gonna stop anyone.
Title: Re: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: Don Seer on September 06, 2004, 10:53:42 AM
it'll be a good help tho.. it'll stop anyone in school uniform being able to get ciggies..

as it stands now shops cant tell because kids coming towards the end of school can legally buy ciggies
Title: Re: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: Don Seer on September 06, 2004, 10:55:23 AM
ohh and making alcohol 16 may be a good idea...

it'd make it less attractive.. and more 'normal'...

i was smoking a lot of weed and doign acid.. up until i was 18..
as it was harder to get booze..

look at NIK.. are there are similar reasons there..

21 is insane..
Title: Re: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: Sikotic™ on September 06, 2004, 11:13:48 AM
16 is too young.
Title: Re: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: 7even on September 06, 2004, 11:22:27 AM
we got 16 for drinking and smoking. and I cant even imagine being busted at the age of 20 for drinking a beer or smoking a cig. sick shit.
Title: Re: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: Don Seer on September 06, 2004, 11:24:32 AM
yeah 21 is way too old


how about 17? i feel safe with that..

but i find it weird u can drive at 17 and potentially kill you, or anyone else..
yet you cant have a drink..



here its 16 for sex, smoking and marriage, 17 for driving and 18 for alcohol
Title: Re: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: lil layzie on September 06, 2004, 11:28:14 AM
Man legal or not,kids gone smoke if they want smoke,you cant change it.....And this is some gangstashit so talk like gangstas;) :) lmao!
Title: Re: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: Montana00 on September 06, 2004, 11:32:03 AM
I think 18 should be the legal age for drinking and smoking.

Thats about the time that people (most) are either almost done with or finished high school.
Title: Re: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: pappy on September 06, 2004, 11:44:11 AM
it will stop what,  maybe 5% of those kids who were goin smoke from smokin.  In the states its 18 to smoke.  By the time i was in my junior/senior year in high school half the class smoked an 90% of them were under 18 so it really doesnt matter.   Your still goin find your bodega's that will sell ciggs an liquor to a 12 year old.  Your still goin have parents that buy there kids ciggs.  Your still goin have friends over 18 buyin ciggs for friends under the age limit.  An your still goin have kids with fake ID's buyin ciggs.  It really dont matter.
Title: Re: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: 7even on September 06, 2004, 11:47:23 AM
yeah 21 is way too old


how about 17? i feel safe with that..

but i find it weird u can drive at 17 and potentially kill you, or anyone else..
yet you cant have a drink..



here its 16 for sex, smoking and marriage, 17 for driving and 18 for alcohol

18 for driving here
I dont know about marriage, but I strongly assume it's 18 here. 16 for marriage? without parents allowing it? lol, that's some shit.

we have cigarette automats on every corner here tom. every 5yr old can buy some if he has 4 bucks.
Title: Re: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: white Boy on September 06, 2004, 11:55:13 AM
21 for drinking is rediculous... and my opinon is and isnt biased becasue of my expirience
Title: Re: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: pappy on September 06, 2004, 02:10:23 PM

we have cigarette automats on every corner here tom. every 5yr old can buy some if he has 4 bucks.

they used to have them in ny.  But thet got rid of them in the early 90's i think b/c too many kids were buying them.
Title: Re: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: mauzip on September 06, 2004, 02:55:07 PM
we got 16 for drinking and smoking. and I cant even imagine being busted at the age of 20 for drinking a beer or smoking a cig. sick shit.
Title: Re: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: Tical on September 06, 2004, 08:56:15 PM
here its 16 for sex,

lol wtf that sux... no pussy til ur 16?
Title: Re: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: Jome on September 06, 2004, 09:17:46 PM
here its 16 for sex,

lol wtf that sux... no pussy til ur 16?

16 is consider a low legal age for sex in many places..
Where do you live then.. Thailand.. ? lol  :P
Title: Re: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: eS El Duque on September 06, 2004, 09:57:09 PM
Canada is good rules

19 to drink
16 to start driving
19 to smoke

sall good
Title: Re: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: Trauma-san on September 06, 2004, 10:46:36 PM
Well, I have no say in British law, but in my opinion, there shouldn't be any laws on ciggarettes.  How can you say it's alright for adults to smoke, but it harms children? If it harms children, it harms adults.  If you're going to regulate the children, regulate the adults.  It's up to parents to educate their kids on what they should and shouldn't smoke.  I'm around lots of families with children, and most of them don't smoke... guess what? Their kids don't either, they don't crave it and don't want anything to do with it, they see it as a nasty habit they would never want to get involved with.  The few people I know that do smoke, guess what? Their parents did too.  I'm sure that's not always the case, and maybe some of yall are the exceptions, but I've found that kids usually mimick their parents behaviour in things like this. 
Title: Re: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: Don Seer on September 07, 2004, 12:04:23 AM
i smoked, my sister smokes...  neither of my parents smokes.

but i think kids with parents that smoke might try them because they can steal them..


here its 16 for sex,

lol wtf that sux... no pussy til ur 16?

isnt it 18 in the US or something?





Title: Re: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: Tical on September 07, 2004, 01:57:53 AM
lol u said 16 for sex

u mean for porn i guess

i thought u meant like if ur 15 and boning ur gf u could get in trouble
Title: Re: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: Don Seer on September 07, 2004, 02:00:05 AM
no not for porn.. porn is 18...

u can get in trouble for underage sex..


here is a list of the legal ages in various countries..

http://www.ageofconsent.com/ageofconsent.htm
Title: Re: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: Tical on September 07, 2004, 02:46:24 AM
so in the USA if a guy and a girl who r like 14 r fuckin... they can get in trouble? wtf thas whack
Title: Re: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: Don Seer on September 07, 2004, 02:57:53 AM

well... how it works over here is.. if they both consent.. and are both under age.. its kinda up to the family.. (if they find out)


u know what some parents are like..
Title: Re: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: Tical on September 07, 2004, 03:00:52 AM
sucks for the girl's parents... u know the guy's parents be givin him props
Title: Re: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: Don Seer on September 07, 2004, 03:03:01 AM
lol... sometimes...

really depends on the girl + the circumstances..


i think its more likely to be a problem if the girl gets pregnant..
Title: Re: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: Don Rizzle on September 07, 2004, 04:21:51 AM
i'm pretty sure the age of consent for boys is only 14 but its 16 for girls.  it was 18 for gay sex but they were talking about a law change a year or 2 ago i dunno what happened with that.
Title: Re: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: white Boy on September 07, 2004, 05:36:08 AM
^WTF are u crackheads talking about... ummm... as far as i know.. i can be 12, walk into a store, buy condoms, and buck the shit out of my bitch, and not be arested, or breaking any law, THERE IS NO FUCIN MINIMUM AGE FOR SEX, only thing u got is the law that prevents, 18 year olds or older from fuckin 14 year olds.... a law to prevent sex is fuckin rediculous, and USA does NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT have it
Title: Re: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: Don Seer on September 07, 2004, 05:43:54 AM
what the fuck is your problem? chill with the attitude.. i've seen you smack talking in other posts. chill out or you'll catch a 24 hour ban.

yes you can get done for it!


so in the US if a 13 year old kid gets a 13 year old girl pregnant... he's done nothing wrong?  say her family trips out and wants to sue the kid that "violated" their lil girl (coz thats how they'll see it) .. they cant do shit?



no matter what age you are if you fuck someone under age.. you are liable for statutory rape BUT now here's where it gets funny.. someone has to report it.. and when you're under the legal age.. your parents can file on your behalf.. so even if the 2 kids are saying they wanted to.. if her family trips out and wants to press charges.. they can!

Title: Re: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: Jay ay Beee on September 07, 2004, 06:58:13 AM
^WTF are u crackheads talking about... ummm... as far as i know.. i can be 12, walk into a store, buy condoms, and buck the shit out of my bitch, and not be arested, or breaking any law, THERE IS NO FUCIN MINIMUM AGE FOR SEX, only thing u got is the law that prevents, 18 year olds or older from fuckin 14 year olds.... a law to prevent sex is fuckin rediculous, and USA does NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT have it


Stay off the crack
Title: Re: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: Trauma-san on September 07, 2004, 09:33:06 AM
"Age Of Consent" means if someone under that age has sex with someone, they're not old enough to consent to it legally.  So, if ANY person under the age of Consent has sex, the person they're having sex with can be in big trouble.  As in, charged with Rape.  That much trouble.

In America the laws are different for each state.  For example, South Carolina I believe has the lowest age of consent, 14.  There's still laws though preventing a 14 year old from having sex with someone more than 3 years (Or something like that) older than them.  It all revolves around the age of 18, it's something like

a girl 14 can have sex with someone as long as they're no older than 17

a girl 15 can have sex with someone as long as they're no older than 18

a girl 16 can have sex with someone as long as they're no older than 19

a girl 17 can have sex with someone as long as they're no older than 20

a girl 18 can have sex with anyone
Title: Re: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: Trauma-san on September 07, 2004, 09:33:44 AM
BTW: Democrat lawmakers recently tried to pass a law making pornography consent age less than 18.  Sick. 
Title: Re: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: pappy on September 07, 2004, 10:15:56 AM
every state in america is different when it comes to sex.  Like in ny i kno its 17.  Like down south its like 11 onlyif its with your cousin tho lol.  Seriously in massachuets its 16 unless the girl is still a virgin than its 18 lol.
Title: Re: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: Tical on September 07, 2004, 03:46:08 PM
"Like down south its like 11 onlyif its with your cousin tho"

lmfao isn't it like that in utah also?
Title: Re: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: mauzip on September 07, 2004, 03:52:02 PM
^^lol some states have some very old and odd laws man... laws that were introduced when somebody was convicted for something, but nobody gives a shit about those laws anymore since they're completely useless nowadays and it only costs time and money to get rid of those laws.

In Arizona there's a law that states that you can't have sex with sheep on Scottsdale Road :laugh:
Title: Re: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on September 08, 2004, 04:19:30 PM
I always thought that you could have sex at any age here in the US, unless one of the people having sex was 18+, and the other one was under 18...Weird...They accept any age here at the free clinics...Most of the chicks that come in are around 15, and get in with no problems...They also pass out condoms in High Schools, so that's pretty weird.
Title: Re: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on September 08, 2004, 04:20:45 PM
look at NIK.. are there are similar reasons there..


LOL, wtf?
Title: Re: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: white Boy on September 08, 2004, 05:27:01 PM
I always thought that you could have sex at any age here in the US, unless one of the people having sex was 18+, and the other one was under 18...Weird...They accept any age here at the free clinics...Most of the chicks that come in are around 15, and get in with no problems...They also pass out condoms in High Schools, so that's pretty weird.

Title: Re: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: mauzip on September 09, 2004, 12:46:32 AM
They also pass out condoms in High Schools, so that's pretty weird.


that's cause they know it happens anyway. seriously... it's rediculous if you can't have sex before your 18th
Title: Re: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: Suffice on September 09, 2004, 12:51:05 AM
Mauzip is cool!
Title: Re: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: mauzip on September 09, 2004, 12:56:15 AM
that's old news
Title: Re: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: Jay ay Beee on September 09, 2004, 07:02:11 AM
BTW: Democrat lawmakers recently tried to pass a law making pornography consent age less than 18.  Sick. 

So you agree that people can actually do it before 18, but not watch it being done by actors on a TV?

Where the fuck is your logic at?
Title: Re: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: Trauma-san on September 09, 2004, 06:05:42 PM
BTW: Democrat lawmakers recently tried to pass a law making pornography consent age less than 18.  Sick. 

So you agree that people can actually do it before 18, but not watch it being done by actors on a TV?

Where the fuck is your logic at?

Is English your first language? 

It's a bill trying to lower the age for consent, in pornography, from 18.  As in, they can film 15 and 16 year old girls getting gang fucked by 10 guys.  Do you agree with that? 
Title: Re: 4 out of 5 people in Britain want the smoking age raised from 16 to 18
Post by: Suffice on September 10, 2004, 03:34:38 AM
BTW: Democrat lawmakers recently tried to pass a law making pornography consent age less than 18.  Sick. 

So you agree that people can actually do it before 18, but not watch it being done by actors on a TV?

Where the fuck is your logic at?

Is English your first language? 

It's a bill trying to lower the age for consent, in pornography, from 18.  As in, they can film 15 and 16 year old girls getting gang fucked by 10 guys.  Do you agree with that? 

No, that's a stupid law they're trying to pass. I'm sure it won't go through though, nobody's gonna vote for it