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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Leggy Hendrix on October 08, 2004, 11:06:15 AM
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British hostage Kenneth Bigley has been murdered by his captors in Iraq, his family has confirmed.
A video released by militants showed Mr Bigley making a statement before being killed, according to witnesses.
"We can confirm that the family has now received absolute proof that Ken Bigley was executed by his captors," his brother Philip said.
Mr Bigley, 62, of Liverpool, was taken hostage on 16 September by the Tawhid and Jihad group.
It beheaded two Americans captured at the same time.
Philip Bigley said the family had experienced "three long weeks of waiting and three long weeks of agony".
He said Mr Bigley's Liverpool-based family believed the government did everything possible to secure his release "in this impossible situation".
"It could be that the fate of Ken was sealed from day one," he said.
There were also reports from the militant stronghold of Fallujah that Mr Bigley had been beheaded on Thursday afternoon in Latifiya, near Baghdad.
A video released by the kidnappers showed six hooded, armed men standing behind Mr Bigley, who was on his knees, according to a witness who watched the video for the Reuters news agency.
One of the six spoke in Arabic for a minute.
He said the group would carry out "the sentence of execution against this hostage" because the British government "did not meet our demand" to release Iraqi women detained by the US-led command in Iraq.
He then took a knife from his belt and severed Mr Bigley's head as three other militants held him down.
The killer then held up the severed head.
Foreign Secretary Jack Straw said: "Now that this terrible news has been confirmed I want to offer the family and friends of Kenneth Bigley my deepest condolences.
"This is a barbaric murder following three weeks of terrible suffering for his family."
At a later press conference Mr Straw said the government had exchanged messages with the captors but they refused to abandon their demands.
He is due to visit the Bigley family on Friday night.
Conservative leader Michael Howard condemned the kidnappers' "grotesque barbarity" and said his heart went out to the family in their moment of terrible loss.
"To those who committed this atrocious and despicable act our message is: we shall never give in to blackmail from terrorists," he said.
Mr Bigley's relatives gathered at their family home in Liverpool as news of his death broke.
His son Craig, mother Lil and brothers Philip and Paul had campaigned for his release.
Paul Bigley had been due to take part in a Stop the War Coalition rally at Liverpool University on Friday evening, via a video link from his Amsterdam home.
Spokeswoman Carmel Byrne said a message from him would be read out instead.
She said it read: "Please, please stop this war and prevent other lives being lost. It is illegal and has to stop. Mr Blair has blood on his hands."
Mr Bigley was last seen alive in a video broadcast last week, pleading for Prime Minister Tony Blair to help him.
Mr Bigley's Thai-born wife Sombat, had made several emotional appeals for mercy.
The engineer was captured just weeks before his official retirement when he would have joined her in Thailand.
Mr Bigley's Irish-born mother Lil, 86, has been treated in hospital several times.
www.bbc.co.uk
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peaceful people, those muslims
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NOT only is it a brutal murder
NOT only is it a brutal murder of a 62 year old man
but it's the brutal murder of a 62 year old man weeks before his retirement
it doesn't get much shittier than that
R.I.P.
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*waits for King Tech Quadafi to justify this cruel murder*
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*waits for King Tech Quadafi to justify this cruel murder*
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sad shit especially the way they stung it out, there should really be a media black out with these things cos they played right into the kidnappers hands
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RIP
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Believe it or not I am actually very teary as I write this.
R.I.P Ken.
Liverpool loves you!
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i posted it but didnt actually say it myself, so
RIP Ken Bigley...
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You fuckin lames always ignore my points and arguments then say something dumb like I cant wait till Tech justifies this.
Anyways, RIP to Ken Bigley, sad state of affairs really, another piece of blood on Bushes hands.
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*waits for King Tech Quadafi to justify this cruel murder*
*Waits for the Cardinals to rip the Yankees a new asshole in the World Series*
8)
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You fuckin lames always ignore my points and arguments then say something dumb like I cant wait till Tech justifies this.
Anyways, RIP to Ken Bigley, sad state of affairs really, another piece of blood on Bushes hands.
damn that bush...he practically put that machette in those muslims hands and put a gun to their head if they didn't cut that guys head off
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No, but he invaded the fuckin country, thus creating these militant groups THAT WERENT LOBBING OFF HEADS WHEN SADDAM WAS THERE. And it was this war that led to this Bigley chap to Iraq to work, no? So, in light of facts proving that this war is illegitimate and based on lies, an life taken as a result of the war is one the wars creators hands? Is this concept understood now? Are things more clearer to understand? Im still not sure yet, because Ive seen many instances of you not understanding very simple things.
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No, but he invaded the fuckin country, thus creating these militant groups THAT WERENT LOBBING OFF HEADS WHEN SADDAM WAS THERE. And it was this war that led to this Bigley chap to Iraq to work, no? So, in light of facts proving that this war is illegitimate and based on lies, an life taken as a result of the war is one the wars creators hands? Is this concept understood now? Are things more clearer to understand? Im still not sure yet, because Ive seen many instances of you not understanding very simple things.
i'm a firm believer in giving credit where credit is due....but no one MAKES you kidnap a civilian and hack his head off, well except for people in your religion that say they should do that type of thing....but those aren't really people anyways
how would you feel if i went to the sizzlers you worked at...and they sat me at this pristine looking table with a great view of the parking lot and i said "man another great table thanks to Prime Minister Paul Martin" knowing damn well that you're the one that cleaned it off for me?
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indirectly yes
however wasn't bigley rebuilding iraq? which in that case i can't see blame going to britain or america
those groups who kill those trying to reconstruct iraq or aid workers should die a slow a painful death and blane cannot be levied back to america for their actions as they are acting in no ones interest.
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it's amusing arguing with the only girl that posts regularly in ToT
he sits there and cries for fairness when dealing with muslims and yet still gives them a pass on everything they do....once again, you expect people in the military to die...it's their job, sad to say....but a 62 year old man who was helping to rebuild and that was going to retire in a few weeks is just wrong
the muslims extremists are cowards...i can single handedly beat any 62 year olds ass and i don't need a mask and some guns to give me the upper hand.
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another piece of blood on Bushes hands.
LOL!
Call me crazy, but when somebody gets murdered, I blame the murderers! There's an idea!
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Again, guys, its a very simple concept, its not hard. No one is suggesting we absolve these criminals of their crimes. No one is sayin homeboy deserved to get killed. But ultimately, this is another lost life on Bushes head. I dont understand how you guys dont get it, probably because yall still agree with Bushes idea of what the war was about.
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this is another lost life on Bushes head.
I blame Darryl Gates for OJ killing his wife.
I blame John Kennedy for The Charles Manson killings.
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this is another lost life on Bushes head.
I blame Darryl Gates for OJ killing his wife.
I blame John Kennedy for The Charles Manson killings.
Man, those analogies are way off, smarten up man, how do u not understand what Im tryin to say. I think youre disagreeing with me just for the sake of it.
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I think King Queer should move to Iraq and help the Iraqis.
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I think King Queer should move to Iraq and help the Iraqis.
When I saw the above comment, I immediately thought "verbal assaulta".
Then I saw that it was you, Mozip. Congratualtions, youve hit a new low.
A 20 loss pitcher. You just went 0-16. Youre Michael Jordan missin the dunk at his last all star game.
Normally I wouldve pitied you. But when some flaming, suspect, black male adoring, pasty, ugly, nasty gypsy Dutch metrosexual insinuates an attribution of the homoness to Tech, somethings just not right as a matter of principle.
Mozip hangs out in seedy alleyways in the red light district, and we all know what he looks like, so we all know which crowd hes chillin wit.
In the mean time, Tech is slangin dick and banging chicks. He got game like Chamberlain.
So please, retreat back into the closet, go sign some PETA petitions, take the poodle for a walk, warm up the fireplace, enjoy a hot cup of cocoa and curl up to a Danielle Steele book. Just dont mention my name again. I dont know you.
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I think King Queer should move to Iraq and help the Iraqis.
When I saw the above comment, I immediately thought "verbal assaulta".
Then I saw that it was you, Mozip. Congratualtions, youve hit a new low.
A 20 loss pitcher. You just went 0-16. Youre Michael Jordan missin the dunk at his last all star game.
Normally I wouldve pitied you. But when some flaming, suspect, black male adoring, pasty, ugly, nasty gypsy Dutch metrosexual insinuates an attribution of the homoness to Tech, somethings just not right as a matter of principle.
Mozip hangs out in seedy alleyways in the red light district, and we all know what he looks like, so we all know which crowd hes chillin wit.
In the mean time, Tech is slangin dick and banging chicks. He got game like Chamberlain.
So please, retreat back into the closet, go sign some PETA petitions, take the poodle for a walk, warm up the fireplace, enjoy a hot cup of cocoa and curl up to a Danielle Steele book. Just dont mention my name again. I dont know you.
Lol
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I think King Queer should move to Iraq and help the Iraqis.
she can't...females don't have the same rights as males in her religion
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Ive been sayin this for years. The number one cause of thread destruction are bad jokes. Its an epidemic that is spreading rapidly, and Cartman and Mazip, are the two most deadliest sickest infected whores of this disease. Avoid their threads and posts.
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Ive been sayin this for years. The number one cause of thread destruction are bad jokes. Its an epidemic that is spreading rapidly, and Cartman and Mazip, are the two most deadliest sickest infected whores of this disease. Avoid their threads and posts.
because you can't seem to be able to
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Im immune from bad jokes and lame posters bitch. Tech is the vaccination.
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you're immune to common sense and tech is a bitch that lives in a dream world
the truth ain't supposed to be funny
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Smerlus, you been dismissed biitch. Why are you swinging your arms around, calling attention to ya self. You on that Machiavelli level, that Rampart tip now, dogg, its over.
"Whose the next poster Ima bury?"
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you bury people by running away?
go ahead run from the truth you scared little girl
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Observe the immediate response of the confused poster who doesnt understand that he is wrong and thus an attempt to proclaim victory simply invites more laughter at the distraught fellow. Observe how despite having the concept explained clearly to him, the frustrated individual doesnt get it. And then, when he realizes that his incompetence is driving away posters who are willing to take the time to explain it even MORE clearly, he states that he has driven away all opponents and opposing views. When really the man just doesnt get it, its that simple. Smerlus + Political topic= Dead End. No result. No purpose. No advancement of thought. No benefit for us TOTers to learn something. Nothing.
Smerlus is that one Dj who plays the same song at different clubs at different times for different crowds. Never understanding the big picture, the greater context, the overall scene.
The crowd is unceremoniously booing you lame. Get off the stage, you shouldve never tried to step to me. Now you are ridiculed, stigmatized. Your TOT career is dead. This is the ennnnnnnnd of the roooaaaadddddd. (Cue them 4 brothers from Philly)
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Observe the immediate response of the confused poster who doesnt understand that he is wrong and thus an attempt to proclaim victory simply invites more laughter at the distraught fellow. Observe how despite having the concept explained clearly to him, the frustrated individual doesnt get it. And then, when he realizes that his incompetence is driving away posters who are willing to take the time to explain it even MORE clearly, he states that he has driven away all opponents and opposing views. When really the man just doesnt get it, its that simple. Smerlus + Political topic= Dead End. No result. No purpose. No advancement of thought. No benefit for us TOTers to learn something. Nothing.
Smerlus is that one Dj who plays the same song at different clubs at different times for different crowds. Never understanding the big picture, the greater context, the overall scene.
The crowd is unceremoniously booing you lame. Get off the stage, you shouldve never tried to step to me. Now you are ridiculed, stigmatized. Your TOT career is dead. This is the ennnnnnnnd of the roooaaaadddddd. (Cue them 4 brothers from Philly)
enough with the chit chat little girl, you said bush murdered bigley and then you have the vaginal fortitude to say you're right...you are one misled little bitch with visions of grandeur. too bad i can shut up whole paragraphs of yours with to sentences
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*swings at Tech*
*misses*
*falls gracefully to the floor*
You cant hit what ya intellect cant match.
You ever seen a cat continously throw a mouse up against a wall and start pawing at it?
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how's it feel to be wrong and so stupid that you don't know it?.... you're the mr magoo of this board
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Furthermore TOTers, observe how the bum is simply taking Techs assertions and using it against him. I have proven in this thread that you completely the miss point consistently and systematically. Thus, Tech is laughing at your attempt to make him look dumb when youre JUST NOT GETTING IT.
Completely over ya head, and now you just swinging in the air because youre angry but hurt too. You dont know what to do, youve never felt like this before. Its ok, just log off, and dont post here no more.
Im not even trying, Im not even hungry no more man, but youre candy ass is just too easy man. You cant even respond with your head up, calling me a girl. Dogg that was played out for Tech in grade 3. Step ya man hood game up, youre just not doing it.
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Furthermore TOTers, observe how the bum is simply taking Techs assertions and using it against him. I have proven in this thread that you completely the miss point consistently and systematically. Thus, Tech is laughing at your attempt to make him look dumb when youre JUST NOT GETTING IT.
Completely over ya head, and now you just swinging in the air because youre angry but hurt too. You dont know what to do, youve never felt like this before. Its ok, just log off, and dont post here no more.
Im not even trying, Im not even hungry no more man, but youre candy ass is just too easy man. You cant even respond with your head up, calling me a girl. Dogg that was played out for Tech in grade 3. Step ya man hood game up, youre just not doing it.
i'm glad that you've known you were a girl since 3rd grade...the fact is no one forces you to kill another person... so by you saying this is bush's fault makes you the moron we all know you are... i look forward to the next 4 paragraphs you write about me even though most people on this board will agree that you're the moron in this case
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I think I actually might follow Trauma and report King Fag to the FBI.
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Tell the FBI they can come check deez nutz.
"I think Im going to follow Trauma..." Man, youre spittin on your own corpse. When Tech is embarassing you in the ring like Ali did Patterson, fight back chump, dont follow Trauma for Gods sake, thats the last thing you wanna do now.
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Tell the FBI they can come check deez nutz.
i heard you were hiding away for a few weeks... now you're big bad tech all of a sudden? you make me laugh
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What are you rambling about? Have you finnally lost your senses? Have the lines between reality and fiction, real world, dreams and on line been blurred?
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guess what?
if the people that did this act ever get caught before they die a violent death...they'll be tried for it
guess who won't be, and guess who probably doesn't even think nothing about this situation...
Bush
so in the end...i'm right and that's all that matters ;D
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considering the nature of the story i think both of you should keep the net beef bullshit for another thread... 8)
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considering the nature of the story i think both of you should keep the net beef bullshit for another thread... 8)
Its not beef, I dont e-beef with cats named Smerlus.
Lord knows I tried to explain the concept of my point, but he just wouldnt get it. I guess in frustration, I may have been slightly abusive, and for that I apologize to the TOT community.
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considering the nature of the story i think both of you should keep the net beef bullshit for another thread... 8)
Its not beef, I dont e-beef with cats named Smerlus.
Lord knows I tried to explain the concept of my point, but he just wouldnt get it. I guess in frustration, I may have been slightly abusive, and for that I apologize to the TOT community.
he's got a point... he can't beef with truth, he just has a different opinion about the situation