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Title: Dre mashin' on Tha Row................
Post by: EastsideLBC on September 16, 2002, 06:38:57 PM
Yo.......all this talk bout Tha Row blowin' up and shit made me think bout sumthin'.......if Tha Row does blow back up like Suge has been predictin' u know for a fact that they are still gonna be goin' after Dre and Snoop!! (Snoop has already proved that he down to mash wit "Pimp Slap") Wit Tha Row back on top and Dre gettin' mashed in heavy exposure do u think Dre will still hold back and not reply or do u think wit all tha exposure Tha Row would be gettin' that he would have to reply back just to hold his respect.......post ur thoughts on this......
Title: Re: Dre mashin' on Tha Row................
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on September 16, 2002, 06:46:41 PM
Wac Post.....

Just 2 let U know, Dre is a pussy buddy.....He dun get down like that.....And dats well respected IF he waz real wit it.....But he aint, so No respect......but Respect on da beats tho......Keep em comin.



Title: Re: Dre mashin' on Tha Row................
Post by: TOOTHBRUSH on September 16, 2002, 06:50:59 PM
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Wac Post.....

Just 2 let U know, Dre is a pussy buddy.....He dun get down like that.....And dats well respected IF he waz real wit it.....But he aint, so No respect......but Respect on da beats tho......Keep em comin.


i don't know i think if tha row really made it big and they kept dissin him all the time he would be forced to reply and i think he would.................remember on 2001 when he says move units and then we can do this..............i don't think he wants to do it but if tha row got big he would have to defend himself
Title: Re: Dre mashin' on Tha Row................
Post by: Peter-5150 on September 16, 2002, 07:06:27 PM
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i don't know i think if tha row really made it big and they kept dissin him all the time he would be forced to reply and i think he would.................remember on 2001 when he says move units and then we can do this..............i don't think he wants to do it but if tha row got big he would have to defend himself


That was a MC Ren diss. Dre wont do anything, plus he is not much of an emcee.
Title: Re: Dre mashin' on Tha Row................
Post by: S.G.V. on September 16, 2002, 07:12:32 PM
dre is smarter than snoop...hes keepin tha row down...no promotion from dre...snoop is promotin tha row...speakin their names gets people wonderin about them....props to dre....
Title: Re: Dre mashin' on Tha Row................
Post by: Young Dan Iza on September 16, 2002, 07:15:40 PM
without dre, there wouldnt be a death row
Title: Re: Dre mashin' on Tha Row................
Post by: Jome on September 16, 2002, 07:25:02 PM
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dre is smarter than snoop...hes keepin tha row down...no promotion from dre...snoop is promotin tha row...speakin their names gets people wonderin about them....props to dre....


TRU TRU!!
same goes for Xzibit, Eminem & others that really don't have a reason to give Suge free publicity by dissing him.
Title: Re: Dre mashin' on Tha Row................
Post by: ALKAHOLIK21 on September 16, 2002, 07:25:40 PM
why would dre wanna bring them up and bring attetion to them?? to him dead row is crumb off his fuckin table he aint gonna promote there ass

if dead row gets momentum and poupular on their own and is still talkin shit then dre will have to put them in there place right now they aint shit.....

i understand snoop gettin pissed cuz they are always fuckin with him but they cant touch dre    
Title: Re: Dre mashin' on Tha Row................
Post by: kuniver on September 16, 2002, 07:43:24 PM
yall are all bitches.. i like to see yall put in Dre's position and have this 400 pound Mob Piru Blood  dissing you and know that he wont be hesitant to have something done to you.. wake yall asses up, but you see in life you got to make decisions that are going to help you or break you, and dre made one thats going to help him..
Title: Re: Dre mashin' on Tha Row................
Post by: Cliftone_Santiago_909 on September 16, 2002, 07:52:54 PM
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Wac Post.....

Just 2 let U know, Dre is a pussy buddy.....He dun get down like that.....And dats well respected IF he waz real wit it.....But he aint, so No respect......but Respect on da beats tho......Keep em comin.







FINALLY.... Someone who knows tha game!



If you know what's crackin you're gonna know that Dre aint Mr Gangsta Gangsta... he's a straight family/businessman. He dont get down like that... and that's all good.. but then dont front like you're Mr 187 On A Mutha Fuckin Cop when you roll with cops.. easy as that.


Dre dont want to fuck with Suge on that level cuz he knows he aint capable of what Suge's capable of... maybe he can come up with some nice beats but he dont want to see him in that level neither... cuz in tha World of Gangsta Rap.. It's a thin line between tha streets and tha freestyle booth... it's a thin line between bustin a tight diss line... and gettin busted in your head... see what I'm sayin?



Title: Re: Dre mashin' on Tha Row................
Post by: Gangsta_T on September 16, 2002, 08:11:51 PM
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FINALLY.... Someone who knows tha game!



If you know what's crackin you're gonna know that Dre aint Mr Gangsta Gangsta... he's a straight family/businessman. He dont get down like that... and that's all good.. but then dont front like you're Mr 187 On A Mutha Fuckin Cop when you roll with cops.. easy as that.


Dre dont want to fuck with Suge on that level cuz he knows he aint capable of what Suge's capable of... maybe he can come up with some nice beats but he dont want to see him in that level neither... cuz in tha World of Gangsta Rap.. It's a thin line between tha streets and tha freestyle booth... it's a thin line between bustin a tight diss line... and gettin busted in your head... see what I'm sayin?





true shit mayn
Title: Re: Dre mashin' on Tha Row................
Post by: Don Jacob on September 16, 2002, 09:17:34 PM
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Wac Post.....

Just 2 let U know, Dre is a pussy buddy.....He dun get down like that.....And dats well respected IF he waz real wit it.....But he aint, so No respect......but Respect on da beats tho......Keep em comin.





that is soo childish


it's pretty obvious that dre isn't dissing the row so they can get some publicity (any publicity is good publicity)


see if someone is on dre's popularity scale like  JD whose pretty well known and isn't going to gain any more publicity from a dre diss than dre's going to diss em, but if they're some wack lable like the row whose only way of making money is from their old artis, or some 2 bit underground crap act from the bay , dre ain't going to give them exposure.....


plus all this dissing crap is pure garbage any ways no one in rap should be dissing anyone shit should be handled in person not on wax.......that's just pure childish and 100% propaganda against another artist, music should be artistic not some ego orgy



Title: Re: Dre mashin' on Tha Row................
Post by: =[Euthanasia]= on September 17, 2002, 04:02:08 AM
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dre is smarter than snoop...hes keepin tha row down...no promotion from dre...snoop is promotin tha row...speakin their names gets people wonderin about them....props to dre....


Word. I've got respect for Dre, he's just ignoring them, 'cos at the end of the day Suge just looks pathetic bringing up old shit all the time. With Dre his biggest payback was becoming the success he is today without the help of Death Row, Dre's a proper business man now.  
Title: Re: Dre mashin' on Tha Row................
Post by: =[Euthanasia]= on September 17, 2002, 04:08:32 AM
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If you know what's crackin you're gonna know that Dre aint Mr Gangsta Gangsta... he's a straight family/businessman. He dont get down like that... and that's all good.. but then dont front like you're Mr 187 On A Mutha Fuckin Cop when you roll with cops.. easy as that.


Dre tried to go soft, remember "Been There, Done That"? That shit just don't suit him. I personally love the gansta shit Dre brings, so fucking what if he don't do that shit outside the music, ALOT of artists who say they do don't, it's like Dre said, "Don't disect my music so much, just buy it and bump it". I don't listen to Dre and think 'oh, he's so gangsta, he'll beat anyone down', I just think 'Dre's music is dope as hell'. Thats all I expect from Dre, dope music, and thats exactly what I get. I don't really give two shits about his personal life.
Title: Re: Dre mashin' on Tha Row................
Post by: EastsideLBC on September 17, 2002, 05:31:46 AM
Yo....some of you catz are bouncin' around tha question.....imo Dre would have to diss Tha Row if they got back to All-Star status.....on tha real....if Tha Row got where they want to be and every1 was hearin' Tha Row just rip Dre in almost every song and he didnt reply it would just make him look bad.....wit Tha Row dissin' Dre while they on top of their game then Dre wouldnt be givin them exposure if he got back at em'.......I just feel that Dre would have to get back at Tha Row if they got where Suge wants and thinks they can go.....but....its all on Tha Row tho to get back to All-Star status, to see what Dre would do......
Title: Re: Dre mashin' on Tha Row................
Post by: Hatesrats™ on September 17, 2002, 05:43:42 AM

Maybe what the homies are trying to say is that they don't ever expect "Tha Row" to become even a 25th of what it once was.
With only one loaded weapon ready to unload (Crooked I).
And untapped talent yet to be utilised such as "Eastwood" & a possible "Kurupt". (Based on his contract statis?)
All "Tha Row" has are alot of expectation's and mountain's to climb before they are mentined wit' the top label's again. Coming soon will be do or die for tha Row wit a very highly anticipated lp (Say hi to the bad guy) and a slew of sure fire hitz (2Pac & N.I.N.A.) on the way.

I doubt Dre will respond to "Tha Row" unless the Crooked I cd...is as dope as we all anticipate.
Then it's on like Donky Kong.

OnE
Hatesrats 2oo2
Title: Re: Dre mashin' on Tha Row................
Post by: D.R.E.-Dogg on September 17, 2002, 11:48:43 AM
Finally some of yall get this shit.

Dre won't help em bitches out and get 'em attention and publicity.

Why would he diss Eazy and his homies and fear them Row bicthes?
Eazy was more of a G than all'em bitches together.

And Criminal_909

Dre ain't rolling with tha cops he wanted them to keep fat muthafucka Suge from his family, anything bad bout that?

Just to let ya know EAZY Muthafuckin E did the exactly SAME when Suge threatened his family.
Was he feared by that mothafuck? hell no

Title: Re: Dre mashin' on Tha Row................
Post by: Gangsta_T on September 17, 2002, 08:26:23 PM
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Finally some of yall get this shit.

Dre won't help em bitches out and get 'em attention and publicity.

Why would he diss Eazy and his homies and fear them Row bicthes?
Eazy was more of a G than all'em bitches together.

And Criminal_909

Dre ain't rolling with tha cops he wanted them to keep fat muthafucka Suge from his family, anything bad bout that?

Just to let ya know EAZY Muthafuckin E did the exactly SAME when Suge threatened his family.
Was he feared by that mothafuck? hell no



finally i gotta agree the first time withcha  ;D
oh, but dre is still rollin wit dem cops hahahahaha
peace
GT
Title: Re: Dre mashin' on Tha Row................
Post by: Cliftone_Santiago_909 on September 17, 2002, 08:48:08 PM
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Dre tried to go soft, remember "Been There, Done That"? That shit just don't suit him. I personally love the gansta shit Dre brings, so fucking what if he don't do that shit outside the music, ALOT of artists who say they do don't, it's like Dre said, "Don't disect my music so much, just buy it and bump it". I don't listen to Dre and think 'oh, he's so gangsta, he'll beat anyone down', I just think 'Dre's music is dope as hell'. Thats all I expect from Dre, dope music, and thats exactly what I get. I don't really give two shits about his personal life.





Yeah,You're right... I agree with everything you said except for tha comment about "Been There Done That".. I thought that was Gangsta as hell.


I dont know... I guess I kinda discredit his music cuz I dont think it's "Real"... but you're right.. it sounds dope as fuck. But I wasn't really speaking on that in the first place... My whole post was mainly why Dre doesn't want beef with Deathrow... cuz he aint that type of guy. And trying to be that kind of guy is what gets him in trouble. and what makes me lose respect for his music.
Title: Re: Dre mashin' on Tha Row................
Post by: =[Euthanasia]= on September 18, 2002, 05:03:44 AM
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Yeah,You're right... I agree with everything you said except for tha comment about "Been There Done That".. I thought that was Gangsta as hell.  


I dont know... I guess I kinda discredit his music cuz I dont think it's "Real"... but you're right.. it sounds dope as fuck. But I wasn't really speaking on that in the first place... My whole post was mainly why Dre doesn't want beef with Deathrow... cuz he aint that type of guy. And trying to be that kind of guy is what gets him in trouble. and what makes me lose respect for his music.



I did like "Been There, Done That" too, but you know what I mean, he did think about going soft for a while and that was when everyone was saying he'd fallen off etc, but as you probably know his wife persuaded him to just keep it 'gangsta'.


I know what you mean about him trying to act up sometimes, but thats what alot of his fans expect from him and at the end of the day thats just his public persona, you can tell he's a headstrong business man and family guy behind the cameras. Some people just expect too much from gangsta rappers sometimes, they actually expect them to still go out and slang and kill people, I mean I don't expect that shit! Gangsta music to me is that dope sound, it's got that certain attitude that seperates it from the rest of hip-hop, if you know what I mean?
Title: Re: Dre mashin' on Tha Row................
Post by: D.R.E.-Dogg on September 18, 2002, 07:04:06 AM
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finally i gotta agree the first time withcha  ;D
oh, but dre is still rollin wit dem cops hahahahaha
peace
GT


shit ain't got no logic

how u agree but still say Dre's rollin with tha cops?

Eazy did some shit but nothing bad bout it...
How is the same thing a bitch move if it's done by Dre?

u gotta decide either they both rollin with tha cops or none of'em
Title: Re: Dre mashin' on Tha Row................
Post by: Hatesrats™ on September 18, 2002, 08:27:33 AM
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shit ain't got no logic

how u agree but still say Dre's rollin with tha cops?

Eazy did some shit but nothing bad bout it...
How is the same thing a bitch move if it's done by Dre?

u gotta decide either they both rollin with tha cops or none of'em


Yo homie The Dre & Eazy situation's are completley different....from all the footage and tapes we have about the Deathrow early day's and the Ruthless situ's it's a completly different set of problem's...
First of all Eazy-E's artist's were stolen from him....(The D.O.C. & Dr Dre, Michele...ect) by force, and acoriding to footage and testimony bodily harm and Threat's on his life.
So Eazy rollin' with protection was a complete must....remember the scariest thing in this world is a starving animal...Money will make peep's with nothing do whatever it takes to Eat. (Those thug's would have killed E...ImO)

Dre's situation is a different apple all together.....I respect Dre for not having anything to do with this Beef tho, But he has to roll with the cop's because he has absolutly no street credential's whatsoever. If they caught him in any hood they might jack his ass in a minute. (This goes to anyone who get's caught in a hood they don't know...u them...even myself will get took..)
Size or being a Bad azz has nothin' to do with getting got...

OnE
Hatesrats 2oo2

Title: Re: Dre mashin' on Tha Row................
Post by: Jome on September 18, 2002, 05:07:32 PM
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That was a MC Ren diss. Dre wont do anything, plus he is not much of an emcee.



How so when MC Ren was on the same album?
Title: Re: Dre mashin' on Tha Row................
Post by: Cliftone_Santiago_909 on September 18, 2002, 11:10:54 PM
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How so when MC Ren was on the same album?





You dont believe it's a MC Ren Diss? Most people on this board know that.. cuz they're all deep into tha West Coast shit...


I can't really say... but I'm pretty sure I've read a site, or a magazine where dre confirms it as a MC Ren diss.


It's cus back in the day... around the time Ice Cube's movie "Player's Club" was coming out.. they were supposed to do a NWA Reunion.. before Snoop was even involved.. it was just gonna be MC Ren, Dre and Cube... without Eazy. But that didn't happen. MC Ren and Cube kinda blamed Dre for it not happening and MC Ren even spoke on it in a Magazine somewhere (I'm pretty sure i read that article too).. and he kinda talked down on Dr Dre. So I guess Dr Dre got a little upset and wrote that.
Title: Re: Dre mashin' on Tha Row................
Post by: Gangsta_T on September 19, 2002, 12:27:27 AM
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Yo homie The Dre & Eazy situation's are completley different....from all the footage and tapes we have about the Deathrow early day's and the Ruthless situ's it's a completly different set of problem's...
First of all Eazy-E's artist's were stolen from him....(The D.O.C. & Dr Dre, Michele...ect) by force, and acoriding to footage and testimony bodily harm and Threat's on his life.
So Eazy rollin' with protection was a complete must....remember the scariest thing in this world is a starving animal...Money will make peep's with nothing do whatever it takes to Eat. (Those thug's would have killed E...ImO)

Dre's situation is a different apple all together.....I respect Dre for not having anything to do with this Beef tho, But he has to roll with the cop's because he has absolutly no street credential's whatsoever. If they caught him in any hood they might jack his ass in a minute. (This goes to anyone who get's caught in a hood they don't know...u them...even myself will get took..)
Size or being a Bad azz has nothin' to do with getting got...

OnE
Hatesrats 2oo2




here we go...
1 luv hatesrats !

peace
GT
Title: Re: Dre mashin' on Tha Row................
Post by: Rud on September 19, 2002, 12:59:03 AM
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How so when MC Ren was on the same album?


Yea It Was Originally A Ren Diss...However, When Ren & Dre Got Together & Made Up Ren Said The Tracks Tight And To Keep It, So Dre Made A Change - If You Notice That Voice Sample In The 2001 Version...

Then I got these fake-ass niggaz I first drew with
Claimin that they non-violent, talkin like they *voice sample*
Spit venom in interviews, speakin on reunions
Move units, then talk shit and we can do this


But If You Find The OG Version (Which Did Leak - Unpolished Beat Etc) Dre Says "Talkin Like They Ruthless"

It Was A Ren Diss - I Made A Huge Thread Ages Back On The Ruthless Board Which Went Into Detail, Board Got Deleted Tho  :-/
Title: Re: Dre mashin' on Tha Row................
Post by: Dogg Sinatra on September 19, 2002, 01:19:01 AM
HA HA HA Ha Ha HA... Tha Row will never blow up again...
Crooked I won't even go platinum!!!
All Suge Knight and his bitch company can is to release old and unreleased material from:
Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, 2 Pac & Tha Dogg Pound
Title: Re: Dre mashin' on Tha Row................
Post by: D.R.E.-Dogg on September 20, 2002, 09:57:12 AM
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Yo homie The Dre & Eazy situation's are completley different....from all the footage and tapes we have about the Deathrow early day's and the Ruthless situ's it's a completly different set of problem's...
First of all Eazy-E's artist's were stolen from him....(The D.O.C. & Dr Dre, Michele...ect) by force, and acoriding to footage and testimony bodily harm and Threat's on his life.
So Eazy rollin' with protection was a complete must....remember the scariest thing in this world is a starving animal...Money will make peep's with nothing do whatever it takes to Eat. (Those thug's would have killed E...ImO)

Dre's situation is a different apple all together.....I respect Dre for not having anything to do with this Beef tho, But he has to roll with the cop's because he has absolutly no street credential's whatsoever. If they caught him in any hood they might jack his ass in a minute. (This goes to anyone who get's caught in a hood they don't know...u them...even myself will get took..)
Size or being a Bad azz has nothin' to do with getting got...

OnE
Hatesrats 2oo2



Dr. Dre was not stolen by force he wasn't just an artist but the founder of Death Row and he left Ruthless cause Eazy didn't want to pay him what he deserved to get.

And I agree EVERYONES asss might get jacked in the hood, inclueding Suge's and everyones else.
Suge wouldn't go there alone if he wouldn't be sure of having some homies there.
So it's nothing bad about Dre protecting himself, since he ain't in a gang like crips or bloods he got to do this shit and it's NOT making him a bitch in any way, neither can u call it 'rollin with tha cops' cuz it's necessary just like it was necessary for Eazy.
Any Eazy WAS in a gang and it was still necessary.
Title: Re: Dre mashin' on Tha Row................
Post by: Jome on September 20, 2002, 07:12:17 PM
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You dont believe it's a MC Ren Diss? Most people on this board know that.. cuz they're all deep into tha West Coast shit...  ::)

I can't really say... but I'm pretty sure I've read a site, or a magazine where dre confirms it as a MC Ren diss.





You're not even sure yourself.  :P

Nice clearup though, Rud.
Title: Re: Dre mashin' on Tha Row................
Post by: Woodrow on September 20, 2002, 07:33:05 PM
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You're not even sure yourself.  :P

Nice clearup though, Rud.


It is a Ren diss...

It was in the source
Title: Re: Dre mashin' on Tha Row................
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on September 22, 2002, 02:17:30 PM
uhhhh, its a Ren diss...LMAO...WHoever said it was a Suge diss needs to check themselves...



Oh, and Snoop is an idiot for dissing Suge...When Suge gets dissed by a superstar, he wins...He wants the free publicity...He wants people to hear Dre, Eminem, Snoop and Xzibit speak his name...Dre is a smart man, he does not want to promote his enemys...JD is already on Superstar status, therefore, Dre can diss JD, and instead of JD getting happy (Like suge would), JD gets mad at the disses...SO tell me, whos the smart one? Snoops ass or Dre?
Title: Re: Dre mashin' on Tha Row................
Post by: D.R.E.-Dogg on September 22, 2002, 02:29:16 PM
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Oh, and Snoop is an idiot for dissing Suge...When Suge gets dissed by a superstar, he wins...He wants the free publicity...He wants people to hear Dre, Eminem, Snoop and Xzibit speak his name...Dre is a smart man, he does not want to promote his enemys...JD is already on Superstar status, therefore, Dre can diss JD, and instead of JD getting happy (Like suge would), JD gets mad at the disses...SO tell me, whos the smart one? Snoops ass or Dre?


that's real


stop the hating on Dre for being smarter than some other guys.
Title: I'm just saying. . .
Post by: HairWuzEre on September 22, 2002, 04:47:10 PM
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HA HA HA Ha Ha HA... Tha Row will never blow up again...
Crooked I won't even go platinum!!!
All Suge Knight and his bitch company can is to release old and unreleased material from:
Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, 2 Pac & Tha Dogg Pound
It's true what you said (about how the row will never blow up again), but I think that you have a misconception about albums "going platinum"; you seem think that going platinum isn't much of an achievement, but the fact of the matter is, only a very small percentage of rappers even go platinum.

(By the way, this isn't flaming, I'm just thought that I'd clear that up).