West Coast Connection Forum
Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Lincoln on November 03, 2004, 02:00:08 PM
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I'd like to see McCain vs Obama.
Too early?
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no women would be nice.
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I think its too early for Obama, but hey, might as well go for it while your name is hot.
Marilyn Manson has a better chance winning the '08 election than Hillary Clinton.
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IMO mccain would never run.
However, i do feel that mccain would make an excellent leader. He seems to know alot about our system of government, and also about our military. too bad he wont run.
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I haven't really formed an opinion of McCain. He seems a little wishy washy to me. He campaigned for Kerry, and Bush this year, basically.
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i dont care.. someone .. smarter? :D
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let's lock this topic and re-open it in 3 and a half years ;)
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I think its too early for Obama, but hey, might as well go for it while your name is hot.
Marilyn Manson has a better chance winning the '08 election than Hillary Clinton.
Exactly. If the Dems have ANY balls at all, they'll run Obama. He IS the star of the show... Hillary Clinton is part of the old guard, the same old guard that just lost 4 senate seats, and 4 house seats. Daschele was even fired, even though he's a senate party leader! The first time in 50 years that's happened.
The Dem strategy right now is not working. The Dem strategy of John F. Kennedy worked. They need to turn back the clock.
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hilary clinton!
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I could see myself voting for McCain. He would definitely make a suitable republican candidate.
Who else is a possible Republican candidate? Please don't say Bob "Viagra" Dole ;D
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no women and no obama, hopefully
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i was fighting with everyone today at school because they want a negro for a president and i todl them i would die before i saw that...
even if a negro did run for president he would get assassinated or just plain lose...
a woman? no i wouldnt like to see that either and i heard Hillary Clinton is gonna run next election and if shes a demecrat u can say hello to another republican president
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I don't honestly want Hilary, but I'd definatly like too see Obama
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hilaly will never win
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I'd like to see McCain vs Obama.
Too early?
That could be interesting. Those two are alot closer together on the spectrum then Bush and Kerry.
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hilaly will never win
niether will obama
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hilaly will never win
niether will obama
Why's that?
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hilaly will never win
niether will obama
Why's that?
he's a negro
dont think im raceist or nuthing but even if he did win i think he would be assassinated or sumthing
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I think the U.S. is more ready for a black president than a female president. Hillary doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell, I wonder if she KNOWS that, though. She may think she has a shot, and run for it.
If Guliani runs in 2008, he has a very serious chance of winning. So the Dems better throw something nice @ him, or he'll walk away with it.
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I said it in my post, McCain vs. Obama. I was speaking real talk, Obama I think will win that. Guliani would be very interesting verses Obama, but I don't see a clear winner in that one. Obama though I think would do well were Gore and Kerry failed to do well in, and that's the Mid West. Obama is widely popular in Illinos, even outside of Chicago which is more conservative, and many Republicans have openly said they respect him. The issue with Obama, he will not win a single southern state.
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no women and no obama, hopefully
just out of curiosity, why do u not want a woman to run?
same question applies for 7even the Harbinger
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no women and no obama, hopefully
just out of curiosity, why do u not want a woman to run?
same question applies for 7even the Harbinger
In my theory, in which I strongly believe in, it's not good if a person reaches the power whose race/sex/homoness makes him/her feel unequally treated by the majority - because then, he/she will try to change that which will result in some kind of reverse discrimination.
that's why I dont want a women to be president - women will vote for her just because she's a women which also sucks - and I also dont want a black president - same goes with black people voting for him just cause he's black; and white people not voting for him cause he isnt white.
Im cool with women and blacks, really. I had no problem if women and blacks would feel totally equal treated and all. but since this isnt the case, I predict that a feminin/black president would change things in favor of his kind which would result in reverse discrimination and I dont support that.
also sex and race shouldnt affect a presidential election, but this is unevitable if hilary or obama run for president.
I hope yall dont get it twisted
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^ but you're ok with white men voting for a white president?
jesus christ you're so full of crap its unbelievable.. and second to that.. people dont give a fuck what you think, they can do what they damn well please!
we had a female prime minister over here.. we even went to war with her.. no problems whatsoever especially to do with her sex.. (apart from the fact she was a tory, and tried to introduce the poll tax...)
why dont you talk about german politics?
lets talk about that..
your leader is a former marxist and allied with the left-wing greens to get into power
americans would call him a commie.. lol
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^ but you're ok with white men voting for a white president?
jesus christ you're so full of crap its unbelievable.. and second to that.. people dont give a fuck what you think, they can do what they damn well please!
we had a female prime minister over here.. we even went to war with her.. no problems whatsoever especially to do with her sex.. (apart from the fact she was a tory, and tried to introduce the poll tax...)
why dont you talk about german politics?
lets talk about that..
your leader is a former marxist and allied with the left-wing greens to get into power
americans would call him a commie.. lol
white men voting for a white president is a totally different story because EVERY president has been male and white.
that way, color and sex wont matter because it's always the same and people are used to that.
people dont give a fuck what I think, fair enough, Rain has asked for my opinion and there you have it.
our leader is at least not some war-thursty asshole. that's pretty much enough for me considering how fucked up western policies are nowadays.
he IS left-winged. better than right-winged to me.
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^ but you're ok with white men voting for a white president?
jesus christ you're so full of crap its unbelievable.. and second to that.. people dont give a fuck what you think, they can do what they damn well please!
we had a female prime minister over here.. we even went to war with her.. no problems whatsoever especially to do with her sex.. (apart from the fact she was a tory, and tried to introduce the poll tax...)
why dont you talk about german politics?
lets talk about that..
your leader is a former marxist and allied with the left-wing greens to get into power
americans would call him a commie.. lol
and u made him a mod >:(
:P
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^ but you're ok with white men voting for a white president?
jesus christ you're so full of crap its unbelievable.. and second to that.. people dont give a fuck what you think, they can do what they damn well please!
we had a female prime minister over here.. we even went to war with her.. no problems whatsoever especially to do with her sex.. (apart from the fact she was a tory, and tried to introduce the poll tax...)
why dont you talk about german politics?
lets talk about that..
your leader is a former marxist and allied with the left-wing greens to get into power
americans would call him a commie.. lol
and u made him a mod >:(
:P
what's wrong with my views? you hate like half of the worlds people for no reason youre one of the last ones to talk
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no women and no obama, hopefully
just out of curiosity, why do u not want a woman to run?
same question applies for 7even the Harbinger
In my theory, in which I strongly believe in, it's not good if a person reaches the power whose race/sex/homoness makes him/her feel unequally treated by the majority - because then, he/she will try to change that which will result in some kind of reverse discrimination.
that's why I dont want a women to be president - women will vote for her just because she's a women which also sucks - and I also dont want a black president - same goes with black people voting for him just cause he's black; and white people not voting for him cause he isnt white.
Im cool with women and blacks, really. I had no problem if women and blacks would feel totally equal treated and all. but since this isnt the case, I predict that a feminin/black president would change things in favor of his kind which would result in reverse discrimination and I dont support that.
also sex and race shouldnt affect a presidential election, but this is unevitable if hilary or obama run for president.
I hope yall dont get it twisted
The problem with your theory is that, black people already vote Democrat in large numbers. In fact, so large Republicans have been lucky to get over 10% of black vote. Black people would vote for Obama because his black, they'll vote for him because his Democrat. That's like saying that if I ran in San Bernardino for mayor, against a white Republican, people vote for me because I'm Mexican. No, that's not true, they'll vote for me because I'm a Democrat. Hell, I've seen Mexican Republicans lose to white Democrats here, and in minority communities, to go Republican is to sell out. So it's more of a party thing than a race thing. But I can see how you get it twisted, I mean, to fully understand it, not even white America does, you have to be a minority in a minority community. To not be Democrat is to sell out, to be Democrat is our norm, to break the norm is bad to us. Obama will not get minority votes because his black, he'll get minority votes because his Democrat. If this was the case with race, when Alan Keys ran in Maryland for senator, we are not counting his crushing by Obama, then black people would have voted for him, but they did not. But again, you have to be a minority in a minority community in the United States to see this.
Now Hilary, there are a lot of women that hate Hilary, and more men that hate her. Her husband lost the male vote, but won the female vote heavily. In fact that's true in most elections, men vote Republican, women vote Democrat. In the end though, it's not a matter of women voting for Hilary, they'd vote for the Democrat anyways, it's a matter of men not voting for Hilary. That's it.
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^^ yea of course it works also the opposite way.
I am damn sure that no potential republican voter would vote for a black guy, and Im also sure that a few demos would refuse to vote for a black dude and so on.
In my opinion bringing new sexes and races into the picture would split political interests and sex/race issues, and as far as you americans proved that being against abortion is more important than fighting illegal wars to you, Im sure that the sex/race difference part is way more influential to the majority of americans than the actual policies.
This shouldnt be. To prevent it from being just keep the old line-up.
If you disagree with me, I in consequence disagree with you and we're even. :P
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It seems to me that everyone is ignoring the fight there would be in the Republican party about who runs.
Normally the incumbent party that has had an two term President has their succession obvious already. (The VP)
Gore, Bush I, Nixon after Eisenhower in '60.
But that's not gonna happen this time as Cheney (hopefully - sorry did I write that?) will have had another heart attack and is too old.
So there is going to be a fight inside the party between moderate Republicans (McCain, Giuliani) and nutcase religious right Republicans. Now if the moderates of the party win I see no way that anyone could stop them. Giuliani would slaughter any Democrat. But if the part fielded some nutcase in the same vein as W. Bush then the Dems would have a good chance. Especially if people become disillusioned with Bush in the second term.
Obama is not going to run. People said JFK went too early but even he did more than 4 years in the Senate (6 or 8 I think).