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Title: Shade Sheist or Knocturnal ?
Post by: Myrealname on September 14, 2002, 09:07:50 PM
Who's the hottest fresh new l.a. talent ?
Shade Sheist or Knocturnal ?
Drop yours up and downs of both
Title: Re: Shade Sheist or Knocturnal ?
Post by: West Coast Veteran on September 14, 2002, 09:15:46 PM
Knoc-Turn'Al - Lyrically he's better and I like his flow and voice more. His songs are more conceptual like "Your Only Son" which is pure illness.

BTW does anyone have "Your Only Son" in CDQ?
Title: Re: Shade Sheist or Knocturnal ?
Post by: Myrealname on September 14, 2002, 09:20:59 PM
Unfortunately i've never heard this song.  :(
Title: Re: Shade Sheist or Knocturnal ?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on September 14, 2002, 09:29:01 PM
Knoc Knoc...

Whos there?

Knoc...

Knoc who?

Knoc Turnal Muthafucka!!!!
Title: Re: Shade Sheist or Knocturnal ?
Post by: S.G.V. on September 14, 2002, 09:39:53 PM
what i like about knoc is that he comes with some new shit...people(including me) called his album wack lame and all that shit...but now that i re-listen to it i consider it innovative and new....it takes some adjusting to get to like it but i hand it to him....as for shade i like his voice...he sounds smooth as hell...lyrically hes nothing special(nor is knoc)....but id go with knoc
Title: Re: Shade Sheist or Knocturnal ?
Post by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on September 14, 2002, 10:28:29 PM
neither of them are toooooo great but they dropped some hot shit. cant decide
Title: Re: Shade Sheist or Knocturnal ?
Post by: Sikotic™ on September 14, 2002, 11:19:24 PM
I'm feeling Knocturnal more. I never liked Shade Sheist
Title: Re: Shade Sheist or Knocturnal ?
Post by: infinite59 on September 14, 2002, 11:33:35 PM
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Knoc Knoc...

Whos there?

Knoc...

Knoc who?

Knoc Turnal Muthafucka!!!!


lol
Title: Re: Shade Sheist or Knocturnal ?
Post by: D.R.E.-Dogg on September 14, 2002, 11:39:05 PM
Knoc for shure

Cash Sniffin' Noses (feat.Too Short & Slip Capone) is dope too
Knoc got much style that's why I like him.
Title: Re: Shade Sheist or Knocturnal ?
Post by: closetothalimit on September 14, 2002, 11:41:02 PM
shade's voice is dope and smooth
i thought his verse on the Str8 West Coast Remix was fucking tight but from what ive heard from his album ive been disappointed.

knoc is tight but he never dropped a completed album, but judging on his e.p. and unreleased shit...
knoc is better then shade
Title: Re: Shade Sheist or Knocturnal ?
Post by: E. J. Rizo on September 15, 2002, 12:33:27 AM
knoc is better but that track John Doe on shade sheist' album is banging with the quik beat
Title: Re: Shade Sheist or Knocturnal ?
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on September 15, 2002, 01:56:29 AM
i dont feel shade that much and knock aint all that special either but his different and i like his hooks so imma say knoc
Title: Re: Shade Sheist or Knocturnal ?
Post by: Murrow on September 15, 2002, 05:07:10 AM
Knoc
Title: Re: Shade Sheist or Knocturnal ?
Post by: Head Honcho on September 15, 2002, 07:48:31 AM
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neither of them are toooooo great but they dropped some hot shit. cant decide

Title: Re: Shade Sheist or Knocturnal ?
Post by: Jome on September 15, 2002, 08:08:20 AM
Definately Knoc.
I've heard about 40-45 Knoc-songs, so I know that he def. got talent.
"Your only son" & "What is life" shows off great lyrical talent, he oughta to more songs like that instead of "Hoes 'N' 40'z-songs".

Shade on the other side, never really impressed me.
I gave him many chances, but he never came off more than below average.
Title: Re: Shade Sheist or Knocturnal ?
Post by: bez on September 15, 2002, 08:08:58 AM
yer for real I cant decide either, they is on the same level to me.
Title: Re: Shade Sheist or Knocturnal ?
Post by: Myrealname on September 15, 2002, 09:09:29 AM
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Definately Knoc.
I've heard about 40-45 Knoc-songs, so I know that he def. got talent.
"Your only son" & "What is life" shows off great lyrical talent, he oughta to more songs like that instead of "Hoes 'N' 40'z-songs".

Shade on the other side, never really impressed me.
I gave him many chances, but he never came off more than below average.


Can u "give me" the list of all the 40-45 knoc songs ? ? ? ?
Title: Re: Shade Sheist or Knocturnal ?
Post by: J.Roller on September 15, 2002, 09:12:37 AM
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Knoc Knoc...

Whos there?

Knoc...

Knoc who?

Knoc Turnal Muthafucka!!!!


nough said
Title: Re: Shade Sheist or Knocturnal ?
Post by: Peter-5150 on September 15, 2002, 09:51:30 AM
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neither of them are toooooo great but they dropped some hot shit. cant decide

Title: Re: Shade Sheist or Knocturnal ?
Post by: Jome on September 15, 2002, 01:45:40 PM
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Can u "give me" the list of all the 40-45 knoc songs ? ? ? ?



Released in CD-Q:

01. Bad Intentions feat. Dr. Dre
Produced By Dr. Dre & Mahogany

02. LA Nite And Day
Produced By Battlecat  

03. Come All You feat. Chyna Girl
Produced By

04. What They Say feat. Bad Azz
Produced By Battlecat  

05. Knocs Landin
Produced By Mel-Man  

06. Let Shit Go feat. Hittman
Produced By Battlecat

07. Everywhere I Go feat. Chyna Girl
Produced By Battlecat

08. Let's roll intro
09. Lets All Roll feat. Time Bomb, Jayo Felony, Slip Capone & Butch Cassidy
Produced By Fredwreck

10. Only If Its Gangsta feat. Chyna Girl
Produced By Battlecat

11. Knoc feat. Missy, Dr. Dre
Produced By Dr. Dre & Prophecy Entertainment  

12. L.A. Confidential feat. Slip Capone
Produced By Fred Wreck or Mel-Man ??

13. When It All Comes Down To It feat. Dr. Dre, Slip Capone, Time Bomb
Produced By Battlecat  

14. These Hoes aka. Cash Sniffin Hoes feat. Too Short & Slip Capone
Produced By Battlecat

15. I Used To Love Her
Produced By Fred Wreck

16. Whatcha Gonna Do feat. Cyna Girl & Slip Capone
Produced By Battlecat

17. You Dont Know Much
Produced By  

18. If I Could  
Produced By Battlecat  

19. Muzik
Produced By Kanye West

20. Str8 Westcoast  
Produced By Dr.Dre

21. Str8 Westcoast remix feat. Xzibit, Warren G, Shade Sheist & Nate Dogg
Produced By Dr.Dre

22. Watch out feat. Hittman
Produced By Mel-Man  

23. It's all about the doe
Produced By Battlecat

24. Knoc-Turn'al
Produced By Fred Wreck?

25. It's all on you (What U gonna do) feat. Slip Capone
Produced By Battlecat

26. Bouncin
Produced By Dr.Dre (?)

27. LA feat. Time Bomb & Slip Capone
Produced By Battlecat

28. Your only son
Produced By

29. Eastwest shit feat. Sticky Fingaz & Ms. Roq
Produced By

30. Let's all roll DPG remix feat. Time Bomb, Slip Capone, Butch Cassidy, Roscoe & Kurupt
Produced by Fred Wreck

31. Intro
Only singing

32. What is life
Produced by  

^^^^^These are all CD-Q released tracks ^^^^^

33. I Like feat. Yero
Produced By Dr.Dre

34. Cash Sniffin Hoes feat. Too Short & Slip Capone
Produced By Battlecat

35. Born 2 Hustle feat. S-Dog
Produced By

36. Have Fun
Produced By Timbaland

37. The Reverend Knoc feat. Warren G
Produced By Warren G

38. Intro 2
Produced by

^^^^^^These are released in TAGGED versions.
Please take contact if you got info on them in untagged versions.

39. Body FREESTYLE
Produced by Trackmasters

40. Get Away FREESTYLE
Produced by EZ-Elpee

41. One Mic FREESTYLE
Produced By Nas

42. Pass the courv./Roc the mic FREESTYLE
Produced By The Neptunes

^^^^^These are all Freestyles ^^^^^

Newer ones:

43. Act like you know me feat. Shade Sheist & Fabolous

I have a feeling that there is a few cameos I forgot..
Title: Re: Shade Sheist or Knocturnal ?
Post by: blur2000celica on September 15, 2002, 07:31:05 PM
knoc hands down
Title: Shade Sheist AND Knocturnal.
Post by: West_C_Internal on September 16, 2002, 08:05:52 AM
I wouldn't compare the two considering they are both a part of the same campaign (WestCoast Next:Gen.) Lyrically Knoc is very humourous and has proven he can be serious when he wants to. Sheist lyrically is very direct, very subliminal (you can catch all kinds of hidden messages in his words.) On this subject, I do have to say that some of you members are being a little picky in calling Sheist's lyrical value 'below average.' I would advise you to pick up a few Shade Sheist street tapes and then decide. Several of Hip Hop's elite lyricists have (on several occassions, publicly) commented positively on his (Shade) ability to rock a mic. Knoc put together a great 1st album and EP, and his fans expect a 'groundbreaking' new album from him. Sheist put together a 'classic' debut album, which in due time I believe most critics will agree. USA Today gave him 3 out of 4 stars, just to prove my case. Shade's music isn't for "Lazy Listeners" and Knoc's music is very entertaining. Together they make great records, I have heard 5 collaboration cuts from the two, and I loved every one of them. This said, I would put them both at a similar level of progress and hope that they hold it down for the WestCoast.

NOTE: "Act Like You Know Me" is Shade Sheist co-starring Fabolous and Knoc-turn'al from Shade's Informal Introduction Lp. Also "The Reverend Knoc" was produced by Damizza, and features a verse from Warren G.