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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Trauma-san on December 14, 2004, 07:34:04 PM

Title: An Analogy
Post by: Trauma-san on December 14, 2004, 07:34:04 PM
Matthew 7:6

Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
Title: Re: An Analogy
Post by: rafsta on December 14, 2004, 07:37:51 PM
kids need to learn through metaphors and such... i dont think ure gonna get ure point across with ure example, i dont know if im graspin exactly what you talkin about  :-\ in a way the story told is true, and there is no reason i can see why the literature would be removed  (sorry but ure example is throwing me)....

Title: Re: An Analogy
Post by: Acgrundy on December 14, 2004, 07:38:30 PM
no
Title: Re: An Analogy
Post by: Lincoln on December 14, 2004, 07:40:02 PM
If I'm not mistaken, you are getting at the censorship of religious texts, and I think you are making a great point. I know it all to well, as in my country (Canada) religious freedoms are secretly being taken away. In some provinces, religious groups are being punished for not performing gay marriages, and there's talk of a bill that will censor all religious texts which mention homosexuals.

Fucking leftists.
Title: Re: An Analogy
Post by: Ant on December 14, 2004, 10:21:13 PM
Most atheists don't dislike religion.  In fact I am happy the teachings of Jesus exist.  I tend to follow a lot of them.  What aethists, and specifically myself, dislike is the manifestations of relgion that people develop to suit their own worldview.  In this regard, its not the teachings of Jesus or Mohammed that are responsible for terrorism, or christian bigotry, but it is the individuals who abuse scripture for their own pscyhological gain and mangle the true meaning of Jesus's teachings. 

Would Jesus condone the Iraqi war?  I think not. But your twisted interpretation of christianity condones the killing of perhaps 100,000 innocent civilians for a reason you can no longer explain.  Jesus would not have condoned a war that was based on false premises, and resulted in the violent death of tens of thousands of innocents, and the destruction of hundreds of thousands of lives. 

I admire the teachings of people like Jesus and Ghandi, and at the same time despise the abuse of their teachings.  Abuse of Christianity led us into the crusades.  Religion empowered Hitler.  And now has done the same for GWB. 

You want to know why there is growing criticism of the religious.  Look at yourself for the answer.  Your a living contradiction as are many modern day christians and muslims. 
Title: Re: An Analogy
Post by: rafsta on December 15, 2004, 05:24:40 AM
Most atheists don't dislike religion.  In fact I am happy the teachings of Jesus exist.  I tend to follow a lot of them.  What aethists, and specifically myself, dislike is the manifestations of relgion that people develop to suit their own worldview.  In this regard, its not the teachings of Jesus or Mohammed that are responsible for terrorism, or christian bigotry, but it is the individuals who abuse scripture for their own pscyhological gain and mangle the true meaning of Jesus's teachings. 

Would Jesus condone the Iraqi war?  I think not. But your twisted interpretation of christianity condones the killing of perhaps 100,000 innocent civilians for a reason you can no longer explain.  Jesus would not have condoned a war that was based on false premises, and resulted in the violent death of tens of thousands of innocents, and the destruction of hundreds of thousands of lives. 

I admire the teachings of people like Jesus and Ghandi, and at the same time despise the abuse of their teachings.  Abuse of Christianity led us into the crusades.  Religion empowered Hitler.  And now has done the same for GWB. 

You want to know why there is growing criticism of the religious.  Look at yourself for the answer.  Your a living contradiction as are many modern day christians and muslims. 

we're in no position to say whether jesus would have condoned or condemned the war on iraq... remember Jesus christ wasn't sent to earth to bring peace, but to arm us with a sword, against our family, friends, strangers or anyone not doing good...

im against the iraq war due to all the killing, but in the old testament moses did threaten to kill all the egyptians children if they did not free the slaves, turn to god and give up the phony egyptian gods...

im completely confused about the war and dont know what to think, but deep down inside i think it could be a good thing.
Title: Re: An Analogy
Post by: 7even on December 15, 2004, 07:47:43 AM
Knowing that Georgia or so is going to abolish evolution from schools, I dont know what your problem is.
Title: Re: An Analogy
Post by: mauzip on December 15, 2004, 07:55:04 AM
I was thinking you were aiming at religion with your post. I think religion shouldn't be taught at school, but school should educate about different religions without saying this is good and this is bad.
Title: Re: An Analogy
Post by: Ant on December 15, 2004, 08:05:10 AM
^ You simply don't understand my views. 

And there is the problem with the evangelical movement.  It's their views that matter, not the views or teachings of Jesus.  Again, the reason people are growing critical of the evangelical movement is that you, and others like you, invoke Jesus's name to give your own perverted ideas more meaning and value.  You abuse religion by pretending your ideas have moral authority in much the same way UBL and militant muslims abuse their religion.


Title: Re: An Analogy
Post by: mauzip on December 15, 2004, 08:09:17 AM
But if travelling back into time is possible, why haven't we seen someone from the future yet? This would be a good reason to believe we can't travel back into time.
Title: Re: An Analogy
Post by: rafsta on December 15, 2004, 08:18:48 AM
But if travelling back into time is possible, why haven't we seen someone from the future yet? This would be a good reason to believe we can't travel back into time.

lol u just went forward into time and posted the wrong topic dumass  ;D

we wont ever see someone from the future bcoz they wouldnt want to destroy their universe and end up marrooned in some fucked universe... capiche ?

how would u explain prehistoric footprints ?
Title: Re: An Analogy
Post by: mauzip on December 15, 2004, 08:20:08 AM
But if travelling back into time is possible, why haven't we seen someone from the future yet? This would be a good reason to believe we can't travel back into time.

lol u just went forward into time and posted the wrong topic dumass  ;D


my bad ;D
Title: Re: An Analogy
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on December 15, 2004, 10:38:25 PM
I didnt even read this post because in the 3-4 years I have been here Trauma has never made a proper analogy that worked. I still dont think he knows what the word means. Probably thinks its the study of ass.
Title: Re: An Analogy
Post by: BigBDrugStores on December 16, 2004, 05:50:09 PM
Fucking leftists.
Title: Re: An Analogy
Post by: mauzip on December 16, 2004, 06:39:29 PM
who deleted posts in here?
Title: Re: An Analogy
Post by: Lincoln on December 16, 2004, 06:47:20 PM
Matthew 7:6

Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.


Good point.
Title: Re: An Analogy
Post by: 7even on December 17, 2004, 02:33:10 AM
who deleted posts in here?

I didnt delete anything, Trauma just edited his post cause noone was like "WOAH, DAMN  :o" after his original post  ;)

Quote
Matthew 7:6

Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

7even 4:9

Thou shalt not fool thyself.
Title: Re: An Analogy
Post by: mauzip on December 17, 2004, 04:02:05 AM
who deleted posts in here?

I didnt delete anything, Trauma just edited his post cause noone was like "WOAH, DAMN  :o" after his original post  ;)

hmm.. i swear this thread had 2 pages ???
Title: Re: An Analogy
Post by: Z the laidback Virus on December 17, 2004, 01:46:18 PM
Religious people have the irritating tendency to enforce their beliefs upon others.This is yet another example. If I could make a wish that would come true I'd say...I wish no one was religious. You can bet it would make the world's population more tolerant and far more loveable.
Title: Re: An Analogy
Post by: rafsta on December 17, 2004, 01:55:44 PM
Religious people have the irritating tendency to enforce their beliefs upon others.This is yet another example. If I could make a wish that would come true I'd say...I wish no one was religious. You can bet it would make the world's population more tolerant and far more loveable.

without religion where would the world be ? we would be lonely, chaos would emerge, we would have nothing to believe in...

If i had one wish it would be to rid of all the people that dont allow ppl to express themselves...

burn bitch... burn. :yikes:
Title: Re: An Analogy
Post by: BigBDrugStores on December 17, 2004, 01:56:09 PM
Religious people have the irritating tendency to enforce their beliefs upon others.This is yet another example. If I could make a wish that would come true I'd say...I wish no one was religious. You can bet it would make the world's population more tolerant and far more loveable.
i agree 100%
i think that religion is just so people can feel good when someone dies
Title: Re: An Analogy
Post by: BigBDrugStores on December 17, 2004, 01:59:23 PM
Religious people have the irritating tendency to enforce their beliefs upon others.This is yet another example. If I could make a wish that would come true I'd say...I wish no one was religious. You can bet it would make the world's population more tolerant and far more loveable.

without religion where would the world be ? we would be lonely, chaos would emerge, we would have nothing to believe in...

If i had one wish it would be to rid of all the people that dont allow ppl to express themselves...

burn bitch... burn. :yikes:
the crusades were in the name of god
jihad is holy war in the name of religion
hitler killed the jews
the romans killed christians

more people have dies in the name of god than in the name of anyting else
Title: Re: An Analogy
Post by: Z the laidback Virus on December 17, 2004, 02:08:14 PM
Right on.

I was asked where we'd be if religion didn't exist. I think we would all be living in a far more tolerant society and word (like I allready said). Also, we'd be much further in our pursuit of knowledge and understanding of the world and beyond. We'd be sparing many a life. Et cetera, et cetera.
Title: Re: An Analogy
Post by: rafsta on December 17, 2004, 02:25:54 PM
if religion didnt exist we would find other things to go into war about....
Title: Re: An Analogy
Post by: Z the laidback Virus on December 17, 2004, 03:13:38 PM
But we wouldn't have fundamentalists or jihad and that's chrystal-clear.
Title: Re: An Analogy
Post by: rafsta on December 17, 2004, 03:34:38 PM
But we wouldn't have fundamentalists or jihad and that's chrystal-clear.

im not sure what that is ? what are fundamentalists ? and Jihad ?  :-[
Title: Re: An Analogy
Post by: BigBDrugStores on December 17, 2004, 03:36:07 PM
But we wouldn't have fundamentalists or jihad and that's chrystal-clear.

im not sure what that is ? what are fundamentalists ? and Jihad ?  :-[
this guys retarded
Title: Re: An Analogy
Post by: rafsta on December 17, 2004, 03:44:12 PM
amm no, i could work out what a fundamentalist is, but im not familiar with Arabic groups, i do not know what jihad is... seein as you dont know u just call me a retard ill go and look it up.... next time you could just tell me what it is instead of displayin ure "wiseness"....  :psych:
Title: Re: An Analogy
Post by: Z the laidback Virus on December 17, 2004, 05:02:58 PM
Please notice that I never called you a retard!

In fact, I'm willing to answer your question.

A fundamentalist is a person that strives for the literary interpretation of his religious scrolls or book and thinks anyone that does not agree with that is an unworthy person.

The jihad is the holy war of the muslims.
Title: Re: An Analogy
Post by: BigBDrugStores on December 17, 2004, 05:04:02 PM
Please notice that I never called you a retard!

In fact, I'm willing to answer your question.

A fundamentalist is a person that strives for the literary interpretation of his religious scrolls or book and thinks anyone that does not agree with that is an unworthy person.

The jihad is the holy war of the muslims.
no i called him a retard
apperently hes mad lol
Title: Re: An Analogy
Post by: mauzip on December 17, 2004, 05:07:46 PM
But we wouldn't have fundamentalists or jihad and that's chrystal-clear.

im not sure what that is ? what are fundamentalists ? and Jihad ?  :-[

wtf? haven't you looked at the news headlines in the past 3 years?
Title: Re: An Analogy
Post by: rafsta on December 17, 2004, 05:16:56 PM
Please notice that I never called you a retard!

In fact, I'm willing to answer your question.

A fundamentalist is a person that strives for the literary interpretation of his religious scrolls or book and thinks anyone that does not agree with that is an unworthy person.

The jihad is the holy war of the muslims.

ahh cool cheers man...

i realise u didnt call me a retard, i wasnt reffering to you but Big B drug stores mayn....
Title: Re: An Analogy
Post by: rafsta on December 17, 2004, 05:18:21 PM
But we wouldn't have fundamentalists or jihad and that's chrystal-clear.

im not sure what that is ? what are fundamentalists ? and Jihad ?  :-[

wtf? haven't you looked at the news headlines in the past 3 years?

i guess not....

and big B i dont get mad, i get even...  8)