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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Don Rizzle on January 19, 2005, 12:10:13 PM
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Israel allows Palestinian talks
Israel has lifted a ban on contacts with new Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas, imposed last week after a suicide attack in the Gaza Strip.
Israeli Army Radio said the decision was taken at a meeting of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's inner cabinet.
It paved the way for talks being held between senior Israeli and Palestinian security officials on the violence.
Mr Abbas was in Gaza on Wednesday trying to negotiate a truce with Palestinian militant groups.
The BBC's Barbara Plett in Jerusalem says Israel's decision to re-open links is apparently meant to give Mr Abbas more of a chance to coax the militants into a deal.
But violence continued on Wednesday.
The Israeli army said it shot dead two Palestinian militants as they crawled towards the Gaza-Israel border fence
Two Israeli soldiers were injured when militants fired a missile at their vehicle near the border
Two mortars were fired into a Jewish settlement, but there were no injuries
Overnight, Israeli troops arrested 13 Hamas militants during a raid in the West Bank city of Nablus, the army said.
'Nothing for free'
The Palestinian security chief said on Wednesday his forces would guard the Israel-Gaza border to stop militant violence directed towards Israel.
Militants have so far said they will only call off attacks if Israel does the same.
"We are going to listen to [Mr Abbas] regarding all the items, including the ceasefire," said Mohammed al-Hindi, a leader of Islamic Jihad, before the group met the Palestinian leader on Wednesday.
But he added: "Nothing can be given for free."
Israel's cabinet, meanwhile, is said to have approved, in principle, a sweeping army operation in Gaza if Mr Abbas fails to persuade militants to cease attacks.
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/world/middle_east/4189007.stm
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Its always crunch time for a Palestinian leader. Its always going to be emphasis on the Palestinian leader to make the initiative,
I mean, the fact that Israel violated the road map first is ignored. The fact that the PA has no security apparatus and couldnt reign in militants if its life depended on it doesnt matter. The fact that the issue of occupation and oppression which is what this conflict is about is rarely discussed doesnt matter. The fact that the 3rd biggest nuclear power is dominating a poverty stricken homeless people doesnt matter. Hamas does apparently but not Israel, an apartheid state.
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I clicked this thread thinking it was about your routine of crunces for your abs.
Carry on.
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Its always crunch time for a Palestinian leader. Its always going to be emphasis on the Palestinian leader to make the initiative,
I mean, the fact that Israel violated the road map first is ignored. The fact that the PA has no security apparatus and couldnt reign in militants if its life depended on it doesnt matter. The fact that the issue of occupation and oppression which is what this conflict is about is rarely discussed doesnt matter. The fact that the 3rd biggest nuclear power is dominating a poverty stricken homeless people doesnt matter. Hamas does apparently but not Israel, an apartheid state.
^^Word.
It's funny how they keep placing the burden on the Palestinian leader, like it's up to them to make peace, to "reign in the terrorists". This is all just polotics. The truth is Abbas has zero power to affect the situation. His people are carrying assault rifles and are being fenced in and eradicated by a country carrying a large supply of tanks and nukes.
He has no power to affect the situation positively or negetively. It's up to Isreal if they want to continue the genocide or stop the genocide.
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i totally agree, but if there is going to be peace mr abbas must negotiate with israel for that there is plenty of proof that fighting for itsn't getting them anywhere because if they do israel will always occupy and oppress, if abbas wants peace hes going to have to persuade all sides, and the burden is all on him right now.
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what does it mean to say "he wants peace"?
who wouldnt want peace unless they profitted from war?
of course the man wants peace, but Israel will never grant it. Israel couldve had peace 30 yrs ago
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i totally agree, but if there is going to be peace mr abbas must negotiate with israel for that there is plenty of proof that fighting for itsn't getting them anywhere because if they do israel will always occupy and oppress, if abbas wants peace hes going to have to persuade all sides, and the burden is all on him right now.
Must negotiate with Isreal? He's never not been willing to negotiate with Isreal.
And it's "impossible" to persaude all sides. There's no way to account for every possible act that might be perpetrated at any given time. That's impossible in any region!
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i totally agree, but if there is going to be peace mr abbas must negotiate with israel for that there is plenty of proof that fighting for itsn't getting them anywhere because if they do israel will always occupy and oppress, if abbas wants peace hes going to have to persuade all sides, and the burden is all on him right now.
Must negotiate with Isreal? He's never not been willing to negotiate with Isreal.
And it's "impossible" to persaude all sides. There's no way to account for every possible act that might be perpetrated at any given time. That's impossible in any region!
israel have the power, they've set the terms for negotiations thats how it is. what are you 2 bitching at me about i'm one biggest critics of israel on the forum but that doesn't change the fact that right now its down to abbas to get the ball rolling or there will be a major assult on gazaa by israel.
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Its always crunch time for a Palestinian leader. Its always going to be emphasis on the Palestinian leader to make the initiative,
guess palestine shouldn't have declared genocide on israel then
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Oh when did 3 million impoverished homeless people living in refugee camps declare genocide on a nuclear power?
Fuckin idiot, dont ever quote me again.
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guess palestine shouldn't have declared genocide on israel then
Yeah, and Jews who retaliated against the Nazis were declaring genocide on Germans right? And Armenians who defended themselves against Turks were declaring genocide on Turkey? Your ignorance is only surpassed by your stupidity.
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Dismiss the retard Jamal. You could speak all day, they aint tryin to hear u. Theyll grasp at straws all day, hide behind technicalities, play the devils advocate all day just to not agree with u
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Dismiss the retard , (comma) Jamal. You could speak all day, they aint tryin to hear u. Theyll grasp at straws all day, hide behind technicalities, play the devils advocate all day just to not agree with u
To clarify that he's the retard and not me LOL
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Dismiss the retard , (comma) Jamal. You could speak all day, they aint tryin to hear u. Theyll grasp at straws all day, hide behind technicalities, play the devils advocate all day just to not agree with u
To clarify that he's the retard and not me LOL
LOL... I was looking at that too, I had to read it twice.
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israel have the power, they've set the terms for negotiations thats how it is. what are you 2 bitching at me about i'm one biggest critics of israel on the forum but that doesn't change the fact that right now its down to abbas to get the ball rolling or there will be a major assult on gazaa by israel.
I wasn't bitchin at you, I like your posts.... but I am disagreeing, because as we speak Isreal is in the process of bulldozing another 300 Palestinian homes.
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Don Rizzle, your intentions are good, but u fall victim to the media and US govts attempts to portray this conflict as an equal one, where we have 2 equal adversaries. This is the only way to justify the oppression of the Palestinians.
For example, this is why Palestinian terrorism has been placed on the same pedestal as Israeli occupation. A powerless inept leader of a quasi legitimate organization designed to speak on behalf of 3 million palestinians should not have any pressure put on him. He cant do nothing. Its all in Israels hands, thats how its always been.
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i agree its all on the israelis and they should do more but now they've set the terms of negotiation the abbas must pursuade all sides too cease fire even israel. israel should be doing alot more and america should be putting more pressure on them, i'm glad tony blair is trying to do something about it by holding a summit although sharon said he wasn't going to attend before it was officially announced or b4 he was invited, which just shows little willingness to accept any other views than that of america or themselves.
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Palestinian armed resistance cannot be stopped. The only thing that will precipitate an end to Palestinians armed conflict is an end to the occupation.
Since peace talks and summits and cease fires occur while the Palestinian terrirotiries are uinder occupation, it should also occur while the armed groups continue to exist.
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Since peace talks and summits and cease fires occur while the Palestinian terrirotiries are uinder occupation, it should also occur while the armed groups continue to exist.
I never thought of it that way, but that's a really good point.
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This whole confict is disgustingly simple. If an alien came down to earth, and Tech had to explain to him the middle east conflict, he would understand very easily how Israel is completely at fault.
But never underestimate the stupidity of a hick.
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This whole confict is disgustingly simple. If an alien came down to earth, and Tech had to explain to him the middle east conflict, he would understand very easily how Israel is completely at fault.
But never underestimate the stupidity of a hick.
LOL