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Title: 4-year-old boy shoots 2-year-old brother, after argument
Post by: Matrix Heart on March 13, 2005, 06:36:44 AM
A 4-year-old boy who shot his 2-year-old brother in the head this afternoon after an argument in their southwest Houston home didn't seem to understand what he had done, police said.

"He's wondering where his brother is, and when his brother's coming back," said Sgt. Cameron Grysen of the Houston Police Department Homicide Division.

The 2-year-old was in critical condition tonight at Ben Taub Hospital with a single gunshot wound to his temple. The incident happened about 4:20 p.m. at a home in the 5500 block of Gatewood near South Post Oak Boulevard.

Grysen said the boys had been arguing when the 2-year-old threw a toy at his brother. While the mother thought the boys had returned to their room, they walked back to her room, where the older boy grabbed a loaded gun from his mother's purse.

"The 4-year-old was angry ... he went and got the gun, put it to his brother's head and shot the gun," Grysen said.

The bullet entered one of his temples before exiting another side of his head. The sound of the gunshot alerted the mother to the incident. The woman had told police that she had the gun -- a .32-caliber automatic -- in her possession to protect her family because of recently reported burglaries in the neighborhood.

It is not clear if the boys' father was home at the time, but police said he did go to the hospital.

The mother could face criminal charges of making a weapon available to a child, Grysen said, adding that Child Protective Services would also investigate the family.

CPS spokeswoman Estella Olguin said her agency had never been called to the home prior to Saturday. A CPS caseworker was expected to decide whether to allow the older brother to stay with his parents or place him in custody of family or CPS.

"It all depends on a lot of things, like why mom had a gun in her purse in the first place, and if the gun was registered," Olguin said.

The mother told police that Saturday was the one day that she did not keep her gun secure.

"You got to be real careful with guns around children, and you can't be too careful keeping them secured," Grysen said.

Police are not sure whether the older boy understands the difference between real and toy guns.

"We really can't say with a 4-year-old," Grysen said. "It's very mind-boggling that this happened."

Residents of the modest neighborhood of single-family homes described the children and their parents as a happy family who often take walks with neighbors.

"All parents should be concerned about weapons laying in the home," said Yulanda Jordan, a neighbor. "It makes me feel bad about kids getting into weapons."

Edward Josey, 17, a neighbor who had played with the little boys on occasion, said they were like family.

"They shouldn't be playing with guns," he said, "They're too young."

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/metropolitan/3082257
Title: Re: 4-year-old boy shoots 2-year-old brother, after argument
Post by: Mac 10 † on March 13, 2005, 06:38:31 AM
damn, thats awful
Title: Re: 4-year-old boy shoots 2-year-old brother, after argument
Post by: acbaylove on March 13, 2005, 07:53:05 AM
Fucked up. :-\
Title: Re: 4-year-old boy shoots 2-year-old brother, after argument
Post by: Kill on March 13, 2005, 09:48:16 AM
damn :-\

and no coincidence this happened in america....
Title: Re: 4-year-old boy shoots 2-year-old brother, after argument
Post by: Noname on March 13, 2005, 10:06:38 AM
only in america
Title: Re: 4-year-old boy shoots 2-year-old brother, after argument
Post by: Hatesrats™ on March 13, 2005, 10:53:57 AM
WTF.... :-\
Title: Re: 4-year-old boy shoots 2-year-old brother, after argument
Post by: Don Seer on March 13, 2005, 12:13:56 PM

ban guns.. simple..
Title: Re: 4-year-old boy shoots 2-year-old brother, after argument
Post by: 'EclipZe on March 13, 2005, 12:17:08 PM

ban guns.. simple..

indeed
Title: Re: 4-year-old boy shoots 2-year-old brother, after argument
Post by: mauzip on March 13, 2005, 12:32:42 PM
that's gangsta
Title: Re: 4-year-old boy shoots 2-year-old brother, after argument
Post by: Sikotic™ on March 13, 2005, 02:13:07 PM
When you get disrespected, you gotta pull out that strap son.


ban guns.. simple..

2nd amendment right...it's not happenin.
Title: Re: 4-year-old boy shoots 2-year-old brother, after argument
Post by: Juronimo on March 13, 2005, 05:04:43 PM
It's a tragic incident but guns shouldn't and won't be banned.
Title: Re: 4-year-old boy shoots 2-year-old brother, after argument
Post by: Wild_Elmo on March 13, 2005, 05:37:07 PM
It's a tragic incident but guns shouldn't and won't be banned.
Title: Re: 4-year-old boy shoots 2-year-old brother, after argument
Post by: -CaliKid- on March 13, 2005, 08:13:41 PM
that's really sad
Title: Re: 4-year-old boy shoots 2-year-old brother, after argument
Post by: Doggystylin on March 13, 2005, 09:53:15 PM
When you get disrespected, you gotta pull out that strap son.



lmao
Title: Re: 4-year-old boy shoots 2-year-old brother, after argument
Post by: 411 on March 13, 2005, 09:59:09 PM

ban guns.. simple..

indeed

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


that's gangsta

 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: 4-year-old boy shoots 2-year-old brother, after argument
Post by: The Watcher on March 13, 2005, 10:10:39 PM
after all the shit that happens with guns, i can't see why the US don't ban them.. this shit is really fucked up
Title: Re: 4-year-old boy shoots 2-year-old brother, after argument
Post by: Shallow on March 13, 2005, 10:17:46 PM
This is what happens when kids are taught that shooting people is cool. This mother really needs to do something about where and why she keeps her gun. I would rather rid my self of all valuable possessions than keep a gun in the house with children. Now one son is dead and the other will probably be traumatized later in life when he realizes exactly what he has done. You Americans need more heroes like Sam Steele, he went around the Klondike unarmed and kicked all armed US criminals looking to steal gold right across the border. No guns, just bold intensity and the right on his side. That's hero. Most US heroes are gun taunting slave traders like George Washington and Stonewall Jackson.


I send my prayers out to this family and the soul of this young boy.
Title: Re: 4-year-old boy shoots 2-year-old brother, after argument
Post by: Sikotic™ on March 13, 2005, 10:25:20 PM
after all the shit that happens with guns, i can't see why the US don't ban them.. this shit is really fucked up

You know how hard that would be? We have a better chance creating peace in Iraq.
Title: Re: 4-year-old boy shoots 2-year-old brother, after argument
Post by: 40oz GRApHire on March 14, 2005, 01:45:45 AM
It's a tragic incident but guns shouldn't and won't be banned.

They should... This is just one of the MANY deaths Bush has caused because of he's "American Proud" for "Selfprotecting"..
Well if you call that Proud then damn...  ::)

Its a shame things like these happen... :-\
Title: Re: 4-year-old boy shoots 2-year-old brother, after argument
Post by: ImmortalOne on March 14, 2005, 02:05:59 AM
 >:( >:( >:( :o :( >:(
Title: Re: 4-year-old boy shoots 2-year-old brother, after argument
Post by: Celtic_Fan on March 14, 2005, 06:41:36 AM
Shocking
Title: Re: 4-year-old boy shoots 2-year-old brother, after argument
Post by: wilz on March 14, 2005, 08:17:27 AM
America has tied itself so tight up now. If they ban guns then some will hand them in but the one's with guns left will simply have the power. They will break into houses more because theres a less chance of getting shot. How can a country thats apparently the greatest country in the world let this happen. Bush knows he can't get all the guns and if he bans them the everyday familys who would have posessed guns will get parnoid about it all. Its the media that cause the problems. how can America have 12,000 gun deaths a year and Canada only has 140? The media in Canada report on positive news more than negative news. America reports that tragedy's that may happen so everyone is gettin paranoid. It's begining to happen in the UK as well. Gun Crimes are on an increase because people are getting paranoid. Bush could revoke all gun permits and anyone found with a gun will recieve an automatic jail sentence. Or the simple solution would be to stop the manufactur of bullets lol u can't fire a gun without bullets! take the bullets out of the equation and that would help the problem
Title: Re: 4-year-old boy shoots 2-year-old brother, after argument
Post by: white Boy on March 14, 2005, 09:38:26 AM
you can only blame the mother..
Title: Re: 4-year-old boy shoots 2-year-old brother, after argument
Post by: Maestro Minded on March 14, 2005, 10:37:56 AM
only in america
Title: Re: 4-year-old boy shoots 2-year-old brother, after argument
Post by: Machiavelli on March 14, 2005, 01:22:54 PM
he didnt die whoever said he did............

damn thats fucked tho....But banning guns wont do anything.

Here in Brazil guns are banned, and we have one of the highest murder and shooting rate in the world(48,000 people get killed a year)thats reported.
Title: Re: 4-year-old boy shoots 2-year-old brother, after argument
Post by: Elevz on March 14, 2005, 11:42:12 PM
Man, I didn't even know 2 year olds could talk properly, let alone argue.

Fucked up situation.
Title: Re: 4-year-old boy shoots 2-year-old brother, after argument
Post by: Woodrow on March 15, 2005, 01:20:30 PM

ban guns.. simple..
Why not focus on the root of the problem? Poor parenting?

Title: Re: 4-year-old boy shoots 2-year-old brother, after argument
Post by: white Boy on March 15, 2005, 02:34:48 PM
in philadelphia, after this weekend, and several shooting and murder happenings, they are severely talking about how to solve this gun problem, but woodrow, even though i think guns should be banned, i do agree with u, like i said, you can only blame the parent
Title: Re: 4-year-old boy shoots 2-year-old brother, after argument
Post by: Just Another Sunny day in California on March 15, 2005, 10:45:55 PM
it's a sad sight, but that's the society we live in nowadays.  guns don't kill people, people with guns kill people but nevertheless this is some sad shit.  hide those guns from kids.  i remember playin with a colt 45 that my older cousin owned, luckily he caught me before doing anything stupid
Title: Re: 4-year-old boy shoots 2-year-old brother, after argument
Post by: etiquette on March 15, 2005, 10:51:33 PM
sad...
Title: Re: 4-year-old boy shoots 2-year-old brother, after argument
Post by: Fathom on March 16, 2005, 08:27:26 AM
that's gangsta
No it's not.
Title: Re: 4-year-old boy shoots 2-year-old brother, after argument
Post by: rafsta on March 17, 2005, 07:32:27 PM
i've got two views...

a. parents planned the killing

b. children really had argument and the bro willingly killed his younger bro..

solution to both problems: BAN GUNS
Title: Re: 4-year-old boy shoots 2-year-old brother, after argument
Post by: etiquette on March 17, 2005, 07:57:52 PM
In my opinion, It should be compulsary for everyone to go through a parenting course before having children.
Title: Re: 4-year-old boy shoots 2-year-old brother, after argument
Post by: bui21 on March 22, 2005, 11:36:15 AM
shit what did the parents do? very sad and awefull