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Title: What Do You Think Of Prenuptual Agreements?
Post by: ecrazy on March 14, 2005, 09:20:01 PM
OK, i had this discussion with my Gf, she LOVES to talk about marriage...so i brought up "What about A Prenup?"...and she went haywire, saying that its not neccesary, and that if i truly loved the person i was going to marry, then it wouldnt be needed...but i said "Just in Case, like something happened?"....And she said, it just shouldnt be needed...Whats mine is yours and what not

My Question(s) are:

What do you think? do you think Prenups are really neccesary?
And
How do you bring it up when the time comes without offending the other person?

*props to sikotic for inspiring me with his marriage post
Title: Re: What Do You Think Of Prenuptual Agreements?
Post by: Trauma-san on March 14, 2005, 10:35:43 PM
Well, nobody gives a shit what I think, but since you asked in public, I'm gonna reply.


I think Prenuptuals are a perfect example of what's wrong with marriage today.

"im' going to marry you, but it may not work out"

That's exactly what you're saying with a pre-nup.  If you don't think it's gonna last forever and ever, Amen, then you shouldn't get married.  Simple as that.  You shouldn't marry because you think she's the one, or whatever... you should marry because you KNOW she's the one, or you at least know you're gonna make her the one.  LOL. 

A pre-nup is like a pre-paid divorce settlement.  It's just ludicrious. 

And come on man: What the fuck do you have to lose, anyways? You don't have any money, stop frontin'. 
Title: Re: What Do You Think Of Prenuptual Agreements?
Post by: Suga Foot on March 14, 2005, 10:56:02 PM
I think if you need a prenup you shouldn't be getting married.
Title: Re: What Do You Think Of Prenuptual Agreements?
Post by: ecrazy on March 14, 2005, 10:56:41 PM


And come on man: What the fuck do you have to lose, anyways? You don't have any money, stop frontin'.

LMAO! True...thats why im not getting married for a while...my girl wants to kinda force marriage onto me, but i want to get married when i know i can spoil her in the riches she deserves....so that'll be a while....still gotta get situated
Title: Re: What Do You Think Of Prenuptual Agreements?
Post by: etiquette on March 15, 2005, 03:45:49 AM
I think if you need a prenup you shouldn't be getting married.
Title: Re: What Do You Think Of Prenuptual Agreements?
Post by: Don Rizzle on March 15, 2005, 11:23:48 AM


And come on man: What the fuck do you have to lose, anyways? You don't have any money, stop frontin'.

LMAO! True...thats why im not getting married for a while...my girl wants to kinda force marriage onto me, but i want to get married when i know i can spoil her in the riches she deserves....so that'll be a while....still gotta get situated
we living in a world of girl power and equal rights so fuck being the only breadwinner when i get married i'll work until my kids are 1 then send the wife to work and become a house husband, that is my dream i just need to find a career focussed woman....
Title: Re: What Do You Think Of Prenuptual Agreements?
Post by: white Boy on March 15, 2005, 03:25:33 PM
trauma spittin the truth...
Title: Re: What Do You Think Of Prenuptual Agreements?
Post by: Doggystylin on March 15, 2005, 07:50:28 PM
Rich people should get em'. Its only reasonable, your life will be destroyed if they other side left, and the poorer side should understand the situation. If your going to be together forever it doesn't really matter if you have one or if you don'.t
Title: Re: What Do You Think Of Prenuptual Agreements?
Post by: Trauma-san on March 15, 2005, 09:43:31 PM
Rich people should get em'. Its only reasonable, your life will be destroyed if they other side left, and the poorer side should understand the situation. If your going to be together forever it doesn't really matter if you have one or if you don'.t

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Um; so which is it? 
Title: Re: What Do You Think Of Prenuptual Agreements?
Post by: Doggystylin on March 15, 2005, 09:58:20 PM
I was saying, if you believe your going to be together forever, it doesn't really matter if you have one or you don't, so why not just get one if theres a rich person in the couplem it doesn't matter anyways right? the poor side would prove that their not out for the money, and the rich side would feel safe and divorce the other side as soon as he felt the marriage was not working out and wouldn't have to worry about his/her money.
Title: Re: What Do You Think Of Prenuptual Agreements?
Post by: Trauma-san on March 15, 2005, 10:07:10 PM
I was saying, if you believe your going to be together forever, it doesn't really matter if you have one or you don't, so why not just get one if theres a rich person in the couplem it doesn't matter anyways right? the poor side would prove that their not out for the money, and the rich side would feel safe and divorce the other side as soon as he felt the marriage was not working out and wouldn't have to worry about his/her money.

How old are you? LOL You don't see anything fundamentally wrong with the rich, getting paperwork to ensure that they can get a divorce as soon as they feel the marriage isn't working out?  How do you think the poor in that scenario you cooked up would feel? 

: if you have the attitude that "oh, I'll get a pre-nup, so I can get a divorce asap if it doesn't work out"... guess what? You're not gonna get anybody to marry you for love, because nobody's gonna love a dick like that.  The only people you get marrying you will be out for your money, lol. 

Urgh.  You must be 12, though, right? Just tell me you're 12, and I'll leave you alone about it. 
Title: Re: What Do You Think Of Prenuptual Agreements?
Post by: Doggystylin on March 15, 2005, 10:13:46 PM
I'm 31, and yes it would be better for both sides you know why? If the rich man didnt have a prenup and the marriage didnt work out, the fucked up marriage could drag on and it would torture both of them. Why on earth should you NOT get one, why should the rich man have to worry about getting a divorce when he feels the marriage isn't working out? Your there for love right? and when there is none, why should you stay?

As for the poor person, well you are very wrong, you ACTUALLY would be sure that the person is marrying you for LOVE and not money because you got a prenup and you know for sure that the person is not out for your money.
Title: Re: What Do You Think Of Prenuptual Agreements?
Post by: Just Another Sunny day in California on March 15, 2005, 11:41:59 PM
worst idea ever, but it's sad fact that in today's society there are some women or men who only want money from their marriage
Title: Re: What Do You Think Of Prenuptual Agreements?
Post by: Matrix Heart on March 16, 2005, 06:59:11 AM
Ok lets say hypothetically Bill Gates wasn't married and was living in California.
Should he have his future wife sign a prenup?

Under California law he would lose 50% of his wealth in one night 20 Billion <that's alot of quarter billions  :o


I'd have my wife sign a prenup if I had sport money...shit I probably wouldn't marry  ;D
Title: Re: What Do You Think Of Prenuptual Agreements?
Post by: OpTiCaL on March 19, 2005, 12:41:41 PM
i personally think the idea of a prenup goes against what traditionally marriage is supposed to mean between 2 people,

you say something along the lines in sickness & heath....basically whatever comes you love each other and do the best you can by that other person, sometimes even forsaking yourself and others for them, not sure if that sounds too hard but i believe if you love someone enough to make that step and take those vows and make that lifelong commitment then there shouldnt be a what if security blanket where they or one of them is trying to protect their own needs...

...if they already thinking there may be a problem causeing them to split in the future...

...then perhaps marriage isnt the best action for them.



No matter what / who they are / what they possess marriage should be something you are as sure as can be about
Title: Re: What Do You Think Of Prenuptual Agreements?
Post by: Don Seer on March 19, 2005, 12:56:07 PM
course..

personally wouldn't marry until am sure... but yeah i ain't bill gates so i dont have to think about after effects..
this is also why i put kids  _after_ marriage.. coz i want my seed/s protected by that bond.

in a case where a poor person marries a rich one.. fact is.. sometimes marriages break down.. and hell yeah.. if you're the poor party and shits fucked anyways.. go for what you can get.. _even if_ both parties went into it thinking it'd never fuck up.. fact is more and more people divorce these days.. coz its easier to perhaps instead of working through their problems..

sadly in this world there are also people who try to gold dig.. if a person is in an important position with money and power and they have business partners n family n advisors stuff there interest is to pressure them to doing it to protect themselves as a unit, not just as an individual.



Title: Re: What Do You Think Of Prenuptual Agreements?
Post by: Trauma-san on March 20, 2005, 02:19:48 PM
Some of yall got some fucked up opinions.  It's sad, love don't hold the clout it used to. 
Title: Re: What Do You Think Of Prenuptual Agreements?
Post by: Doggystylin on March 20, 2005, 04:08:33 PM
Some of yall got some fucked up opinions.  It's sad, love don't hold the clout it used to. 

I don't know..or you just have a hick ass redneck opinion....whatever...either one.
Title: Re: What Do You Think Of Prenuptual Agreements?
Post by: ShadyGuru on March 20, 2005, 04:28:17 PM
i think if you have a lot of money that you might as well be safe.  Got to protect the money, even if you love the girl.
Title: Re: What Do You Think Of Prenuptual Agreements?
Post by: Trauma-san on March 20, 2005, 09:44:19 PM
Yea, because we all know Money trumps love.  Maybe in yalls sick ass world, I guess to each his own, but it tells me a lot about you if you're in support of Prenups.  It's pretty black & white, money, or love, and look how many in this thread chose money.  I wonder why the U.S. divorce rate is 50%?  Like Mike said, "Love Ain't What It Used To Be". 
Title: Re: What Do You Think Of Prenuptual Agreements?
Post by: Don Seer on March 21, 2005, 10:30:23 AM
its not about money trumping love.. you have it wrong.  and have a very narrow cynical view of the subject.

what is the real reason? i tred to touch on this in my earlier post.

its about what happens when that love breaks down.

if the loves gone bad.. often as a result people end up going out for what they can get out of the situation.
sometimes for the wrong reasons.. revenge.. trying to get back at the person that burned them...
its not just about money.. kids get dragged into this shit too..

and like i already pointed out.. its not JUST all about the security of the 'rich' party
or selfishness on their part. but also due to pressures on them from family and their 'hangers on'.

for an example look at the britney siutation.. she didn't want a pre-nup and her
family and advisors (yeah those who depend upon her wealth) forced her to go into doing it.
yes.. partly through being selfish and partly out of wanting to protect her.

here's a snippet from a news story at the time..
Under Californian law, divorced couples by split their wealth 50-50, so Britney would have lost half her earnings to Kevin if they broke up.
 
Insiders say the star was reluctant to make Kevin sign the legal agreement at first, insisting he was her Mr Right and they didn't need one.
But she reportedly gave in under pressure from her mother, Lynne, her manager, Larry Rudolph, and executives at her record company Jive.


now look.. she's getting divorced right?


fact is.. it seems the 'institution' of marriage isnt held very high these days..
partly due to the increasing selfishness of people and society and
with the apparent fall in people partcipating in any form of religion.

with or without pre-nups marriages are failing all over the place..

if the odds are against your marriage succeeding it would seem pragmatic to protect that..

due to infidelty, due to how easy it is to get divorced along with 'acceptance' fact these days
and due one thing already mentioned.. that people are unwilling to try and work shit out..
in the past they pretty much had to work through/past that shit.. these days its too damn easy to bail.

personally i wouldnt marry someone i havent lived with for a decent period of time..
and i wouldnt want kids until i'm married..

back in the day people used to marry before they lived together.. hell hadn't even slept with till the wedding night..

things done changed huh?

Title: Re: What Do You Think Of Prenuptual Agreements?
Post by: Sikotic™ on March 21, 2005, 11:27:38 AM
If you have any doubt that the marraige won't work out, why are you getting married in the first place?
Title: Re: What Do You Think Of Prenuptual Agreements?
Post by: OpTiCaL on March 22, 2005, 04:07:34 PM
If you have any doubt that the marraige won't work out, why are you getting married in the first place?



true
Title: Re: What Do You Think Of Prenuptual Agreements?
Post by: rafsta on March 24, 2005, 07:01:47 PM
If I was rich i would most definetly get a pre nup... some of you are being naive saying if your not in love bla bla bla... dont forget about the stragglers, some bitch just might be playin fake.... love may be blind, but for fucks sake dont make it stupid....