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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on March 17, 2005, 06:10:25 PM
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Allah says in the Noble Qu'ran that there is some good in alcohol, but that the harm outwieghs the benefits, and therefore, Allah decreed that alcohol shall be forbidden for Muslims. When this command was revealed to the Muslims 1400 years ago, all the Muslims dumped their alcohol out into the streets, and you could see what appeared to be a river or stream of alcohol flowing through the streets of Mekkah.
A Muslim doesn't drink alcohol. It is not hard for a practicing Muslim to avoid alcohol. His affairs are with the family, the community, in service to Allah, he is at prayer 5 times a day, and constantly remembering Allah. This is a state of submission to Allah. Islam means submission to the will of Allah.
Generally, Muslims are so consumed with this state of submission, that a Muslim has no interest in attending a club or a party where alcohol is being consumed. Infact, Muslim rapper Mos Def, makes a deal with all his concert promoters, that no alcohol will be sold at his shows.
I've seen alot of talk at this forum, of kids glorifying and bragging about how drunk they were. So I am here to provide a balance. I am here to say, alcohol doesn't make you manly, it makes you less than a child, it makes you weak and stupid, and it puts your family and those close to you in harms way. Stay away from alcohol, do not develop bad habits that will be with you your whole life. Don't even take a sip of alcohol.
There may be a little good in drinking in moderation, but the harm outwieghs the good, and therefore, do not drink alcohol at all.
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1. I don't give a shit about what this Allah dude got to say.
2. Alcohol doesn't make you weak or childish, and it does not hurt your family, IF you know how much to drink, and can control it, most people can.
It's like many other things in life, it's good in the right doses, but not good if you get addicted. ;)
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Allah says in the Noble Qu'ran that there is some good in alcohol, but that the harm outwieghs the benefits, and therefore, Allah decreed that alcohol shall be forbidden for Muslims. When this command was revealed to the Muslims 1400 years ago, all the Muslims dumped their alcohol out into the streets, and you could see what appeared to be a river or stream of alcohol flowing through the streets of Mekkah.
A Muslim doesn't drink alcohol. It is not hard for a practicing Muslim to avoid alcohol. His affairs are with the family, the community, in service to Allah, he is at prayer 5 times a day, and constantly remembering Allah. This is a state of submission to Allah. Islam means submission to the will of Allah.
Generally, Muslims are so consumed with this state of submission, that a Muslim has no interest in attending a club or a party where alcohol is being consumed. Infact, Muslim rapper Mos Def, makes a deal with all his concert promoters, that no alcohol will be sold at his shows.
I've seen alot of talk at this forum, of kids glorifying and bragging about how drunk they were. So I am here to provide a balance. I am here to say, alcohol doesn't make you manly, it makes you less than a child, it makes you weak and stupid, and it puts your family and those close to you in harms way. Stay away from alcohol, do not develop bad habits that will be with you your whole life. Don't even take a sip of alcohol.
There may be a little good in drinking in moderation, but the harm outwieghs the good, and therefore, do not drink alcohol at all.
No Lier, Dont feed us bullshit propaganda.....Mos Def not endorsing alchohol?? Um, buddy i went to a mos def show, they were selling alchohol and he even said that he was going to hit up the bar after the show.....Complete bullshit,....I hate people like you, Stop trying to feed people shit about your religion, just follow it and dont worry about what everyone else is doing....in the end, if your right, then you get what you get and we get what we get
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1. I don't give a shit about what this Allah dude got to say.
2. Alcohol doesn't make you weak or childish, and it does not hurt your family, IF you know how much to drink, and can control it, most people can.
It's like many other things in life, it's good in the right doses, but not good if you get addicted. ;)
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1. I don't give a shit about what this Allah dude got to say.
2. Alcohol doesn't make you weak or childish, and it does not hurt your family, IF you know how much to drink, and can control it, most people can.
It's like many other things in life, it's good in the right doses, but not good if you get addicted. ;)
ok i do not agree with infinite but you look straight up stupid and ignorant as fuck there saying, "I don't give a shit about what this Allah dude got to say". how many times do people have to make clear that allah is just the arabic word for god, so this "dude" that they call allah is god ::) have some respect atleast even if you disagree
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bitch, grab a bottle of grey goose and enjoy the euphoria. it will have u fuckin your fat wife in the ass in no time.
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ok i do not agree with infinite but you look straight up stupid and ignorant as fuck there saying, "I don't give a shit about what this Allah dude got to say". how many times do people have to make clear that allah is just the arabic word for god, so this "dude" that they call allah is god ::) have some respect atleast even if you disagree
Why should I show respect when this motherfucker telling us how to live our lives, and telling everybody to obey Allah ??
Frankly, I don't a shit, and imo it's stupid that people plan their lives from a book or what their "god" have to say.
I'ma start my own religion, it's called "I don't give a shit", so show some fucking respect when you're talking to Jome !!!!!! :argue:
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nigga im drunk... quit trying to make me feel bad...
ay whiteboy tomorow we are gonna hit up that grey goose mayne... u already know the best tasteing vodka imma roll with ...
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Why should I show respect when this motherfucker telling us how to live our lives, and telling everybody to obey Allah ??
Frankly, I don't a shit, and imo it's stupid that people plan their lives from a book or what their "god" have to say.
I'ma start my own religion, it's called "I don't give a shit", so show some fucking respect when you're talking to Jome !!!!!! :argue:
I'm providing balance at this forum. The problem isn't that I'm telling you how to run your life. Because if I was telling you to drink more alcohol you wouldn't have gotten so upset.
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I'm providing balance at this forum. The problem isn't that I'm telling you how to run your life. Because if I was telling you to drink more alcohol you wouldn't have gotten so upset.
Well, in one sense, you're right.
The dumbest shit I see, is those retarded mofos running around like "ahaha, look at me, I'm faaaded", like they're expecting applause or some shit.
Then you have the preteen Jae Kwon type of homos, "I'm tipsy, oooh wee I'm cool, I can be a rapper now!" ::)
If you told everybody to drink more alcohol, I still would have found it stupid, cuz it's not really your business, now is it.. ?? :grumpy:
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jome ur starting not to be cool no more dude...
i like that chilled out jome better...
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I'm providing balance at this forum. The problem isn't that I'm telling you how to run your life. Because if I was telling you to drink more alcohol you wouldn't have gotten so upset.
Well, in one sense, you're right.
The dumbest shit I see, is those retarded mofos running around like "ahaha, look at me, I'm faaaded", like they're expecting applause or some shit.
Then you have the preteen Jae Kwon type of homos, "I'm tipsy, oooh wee I'm cool, I can be a rapper now!" ::)
If you told everybody to drink more alcohol, I still would have found it stupid, cuz it's not really your business, now is it.. ?? :grumpy:
It isnt your buisness, so you should try and stop getting and bettering people's lives, cuz doesnt Allah teach something about minding your own fuckin buisness and just believing in him cuz if you listen to others and not yourself its wrong?!?!
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The whole point of this thead has been defeated because it got moved away from the Anything Goes Forum. I made this thread for the Anything Goes forum to serve as a balance against all the people promoting alcohol. Now that it's moved here it makes no sense. Nobody brags about how drunk they can get at this forum. Might as well delete the thread now.
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oh fuck, lol, i wanted to move it to TOT...and i dont know if your trying to diss me by calling me brad pitt but i take that as a complement, lol
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I'm not a muslim, so what you're saying is irrelevant to me.
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oh fuck, lol, i wanted to move it to TOT...and i dont know if your trying to diss me by calling me brad pitt but i take that as a complement, lol
LOL... that's funny, I automatically assumed you moved it to Train of Thought, now it's floating around in West Coast Connection, now it's really out of place.
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why is this topic in this part of the forum?
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are you fucking stupid^^...try reading the thread before posting
and infinte, my bad, i dont have any control over this part of the forum so i cant move it back..i had good intentions, lol
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lol, you crackheads. 8)
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ok i moved it ;D
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are you fucking stupid^^...try reading the thread before posting
and infinte, my bad, i dont have any control over this part of the forum so i cant move it back..i had good intentions, lol
Maybe you need to read the thread, it shouldn't have been moved in the first place, my whole reason for starting this thread was for the intention that it would be in Anything Goes. If it can't be there, just delete it. Now it's too late, and you have no control, lol... that's kind of funny. And what is with this Brad Pitt fixation you have anyway?
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hes one of my favorite actors and i have his picture in my sig, whats wrong with that?
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ok i moved it ;D
LOL, how did you do that? Did you hack the forum?
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hes one of my favorite actors and i have his picture in my sig, whats wrong with that?
Fair enough.
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hes lying.... :oi: :oi: :oi:...... :sign_banhim: :sign_banhim: :sign_banhim: :sign_banhim: :sign_banhim: :sign_banhim:
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I definitely agree that avoision of alcohol completely is important. Honestly, I live in a college building. I never miss a class, and I'm the only one. I'm also the only one who doesn't drink. Coincidence?
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I definitely agree that avoision of alcohol completely is important. Honestly, I live in a college building. I never miss a class, and I'm the only one. I'm also the only one who doesn't drink. Coincidence?
Yes.
I never missed a class, maintained a near 4.0 GPA, and drank frequently.
Is having a beer with dinner wrong? Nope. It's not the booze thats a problem, it's the individual.
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ok i do not agree with infinite but you look straight up stupid and ignorant as fuck there saying, "I don't give a shit about what this Allah dude got to say". how many times do people have to make clear that allah is just the arabic word for god, so this "dude" that they call allah is god ::) have some respect atleast even if you disagree
You're 100% wrong.
The conditional love and wrathful punishment of Muhammad's Allah is completely opposed to the unconditional love and peace that was preached by Jesus.
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ok i do not agree with infinite but you look straight up stupid and ignorant as fuck there saying, "I don't give a shit about what this Allah dude got to say". how many times do people have to make clear that allah is just the arabic word for god, so this "dude" that they call allah is god ::) have some respect atleast even if you disagree
You're 100% wrong.
The conditional love and wrathful punishment of Muhammad's Allah is completely opposed to the unconditional love and peace that was preached by Jesus.
If you say so
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I do.
If I came up to you and said you WERE dope, you'd take it as a compliment.
If I said that you are A dope, you'd take it as an insult.
Same type of thing here...
Sure it may mean God, but it clearly doesn't represent the same God.
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Like I said, thats all up to you, all I was trying to point out is that by allah they mean the same god that the christians and the jews follow or whoever cause theres only 1 god, now if you dont think its the same god, thats on you..
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I definitely agree that avoision of alcohol completely is important. Honestly, I live in a college building. I never miss a class, and I'm the only one. I'm also the only one who doesn't drink. Coincidence?
Yes.
I never missed a class, maintained a near 4.0 GPA, and drank frequently.
Is having a beer with dinner wrong? Nope. It's not the booze thats a problem, it's the individual.
Perhaps, but I rarely meet anyone who has control. In fact, I'm not sure if I have. I'm sure there's other people out there like you.
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You're 100% wrong.
The conditional love and wrathful punishment of Muhammad's Allah is completely opposed to the unconditional love and peace that was preached by Jesus.
So your a Christian now? Maybe a girl you want to date is Christian, this must be a new thing. Let me explain to you something about Christianity. Ever heard of the old testament? Is the God of the Old Testment not also a punishing and wrathful God?
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*opens a bottle of beer*
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It's not the booze thats a problem, it's the individual.
Exactly.
Muslims are a very small percentage of Society, the Muslims who actually obey these Islamic rules are ever smaller. Instead of giving them laws and belittling people for the wrong they do, try relating to their mind-state and moderating them slowly. This strict method will NOT work in the majority. We've seen it for thousands of years. You are part of a very small minority Infinite. Not everyone grew up like you, your mentality is different. You just don't understand other people's perspective on life, you blame everything on the media. Maybe the majority of this board is influenced by the media, but the majority of people in Society are not. They are products of Society, period. It's like you coming to my neighbourhood and trynna tell my people to stop sippin on shit because Allah doesn't approve it. It just doesn't work. Preaching doesn't work. You have to work on people from the inside. You have to become one of the people to change the people. You look at an individual like me for example, you take me to the Murder Capital of the Nation this hour then take me to a high class Middle Eastern function the next, I'll fit right in both. This religion stuff isn't going to make people become better in a majority sense, you have to get in touch with people's mind-state, it's different for everyone. Christianity, it's not a religion. It's a relationship with god. But then when you have different branches come in (like Catholics, 7th day, etc etc), you gone have conflicts within the individual's mind. Those branches stress on God's laws, so do Muslims. That is what defines religion. It's man-made, it won't work in the bigger picture. You need to let people know how to establish a relationship with god and his spirit and how to overcome demons, and the only way to do that is to acknowledge these demons. Alcohol isn't a problem, it's the demons that come with it, if you acknowledge those demons, you will overcome any conflict there is with alcohol......aiight im tired of typing.................
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So your a Christian now? Maybe a girl you want to date is Christian, this must be a new thing. Let me explain to you something about Christianity. Ever heard of the old testament? Is the God of the Old Testment not also a punishing and wrathful God?
Have you ever read the New Testament?
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I definitely agree that avoision of alcohol completely is important. Honestly, I live in a college building. I never miss a class, and I'm the only one. I'm also the only one who doesn't drink. Coincidence?
Yes.
I never missed a class, maintained a near 4.0 GPA, and drank frequently.
Is having a beer with dinner wrong? Nope. It's not the booze thats a problem, it's the individual.
I didnt think you could miss classes at Devry.
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Yo muslims arent a minority, they make up more than 33% of the world. Their like a virus, infesting the world with propaganda and terrorism, nothing good ever came out of islam. fuck not drinking fuck not smoking fuck allah
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lol you guys are a joke, a good one though
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1. I don't give a shit about what this Allah dude got to say.
2. Alcohol doesn't make you weak or childish, and it does not hurt your family, IF you know how much to drink, and can control it, most people can.
It's like many other things in life, it's good in the right doses, but not good if you get addicted. ;)
Yeah totaly who gives afuck whut this person gotta alcohol is good its jsut like evrything else in life its called balance. 8)
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you must be kidding...Iran is not even close to being a sober nation. The number of teenage herion addicts has been rising every year, whores and hookers in the streets, and all the corner stores deal alcohol under the counter. Drinking in Iran was just as common as it is here before the Revolution of 1979 so umm...
Iran is a sober nation, and Iranians are sober people, who have gotten by for centuries without alcohol.
Centuries huh? lol comon dogg, I thought you knew better than that...Islamic Revolution only happened 26 years ago, lol. And like I said, anyone can get alcohol in Iran now. Its not a perfect Muslim nation like you imagine it. Drinking still takes place and the government doesn't really worry about alcohol much right now since Opium is like coffee there.
This is all now, and I don't know where you came up with the information that Alcohol has never been a part of Iranian culture, lol thats almost funny its so incorrect. Infact I'm pretty sure it was part of Iranian culture before it was a part of the white man's culture.
Iranians have had alcohol in their culture since the Persian Empire..which was was THOUSANDS of years ago when Persians and Greeks were battling eachother. Even a person uneducated on the subject knows by now that Greeks and Persians were drinking alcohol regularly. Look at these hollywood movies like "Alexander" even those movies have some truth, but besides that, its even written in books that after victories the Persians would have huge celebrations and lots of drinkin would be going on.
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^ Exactly.... You beat me to it, It just proves how foolish this guy really is with his preaching. The most famous wine in the world is from Shiraz, a historical town South of Iran. There are people in the ghettos out there who sip away still like it's water. There is nothing about Sober about my roots, you have no idea what goes down out there. The whole country has been demonized ever since the revolution.
In general, there is nothing wrong with alcohol, it's the demons that come with it. If you acknowledge those demons, you will have self control and will know when to stop. And what does Americanized mean? Let's not forget who the white boy is here, and you should be proud of who you are, maybe you just don't have a real identity and enjoy bashing others about theirs. Who knows, but Americanized? I don't even understand what that means. You act like I'm not FROM America. And my environment don't hold me bac from anything, I don't know how you get that from my post. Just STFU though, you're boring me !
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^ Exactly.... You beat me to it, It just proves how foolish this guy really is with his preaching. The most famous wine in the world is from Shiraz, a historical town South of Iran. There are people in the ghettos out there who sip away still like it's water. There is nothing about Sober about my roots, you have no idea what goes down out there. The whole country has been demonized ever since the revolution.
In general, there is nothing wrong with alcohol, it's the demons that come with it. If you acknowledge those demons, you will have self control and will know when to stop. And what does Americanized mean? Let's not forget who the white boy is here, and you should be proud of who you are, maybe you just don't have a real identity and enjoy bashing others about theirs. Who knows, but Americanized? I don't even understand what that means. You act like I'm not FROM America. And my environment don't hold me bac from anything, I don't know how you get that from my post. Just STFU though, you're boring me !
That's why I said alcohol has not been a part of Iranian culture for centuries. If you read my origional post, I'm talking about how alcohol was flowing like a river through the street when the Qu'ran banned it 1400 years ago. Then later, Islam penetrated Persia. I'm sure there was heavy drinking in Persia before the advent of Islam.
Read my post again. Iran was not influenced by Islam like Saudi Arabia until 1979, I don't see why you don't understand that. Before 1979, Iran's drinking scene was similar to Europe. There were bars, nightclubs, advertisements, and yes even now if you go, there are many familys who regularly drink at home. Iran is the least islamic country there is in the middle east. Iranians hate Arabs therefore the Islam thing didn't stick to many.
So just read it again, and please admit you were wrong about the Iranian history part, don't try to change your words. Cause I already see you trying to slip out of the "alcohol has BEEN a part of the white man's culture and not the Iranians".
Let me get the quote before you decide to change your words. For white people, it is part of the American culture to drink alcohol and has been for centuries. That's not your history, that's not your people's history. It's clear that you've been Americanized, Westernized.
Thats you talking to Rod, who is Persian. So you are talking about Persian history.
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Atleast Doggy/Saivash/Sunset admits he's Americanized. Don't run from it Rod, your Americanized. Straight up. Why run from it? You love it so much. That's what your always trying to prove is how hard, and how gangsta, and how hip-hop you are. These are all American concepts that you live by. You live by African American culture, 2pac wrote the script that you try so hard to live by. But you ain't him. 2pac tried to elevate himself, infact 2pac used to read Khalil Gibran and Rumi and other Persian authors and he experimented with Sufi thought that you know nothing about. I love hip-hop, and I respect that you represent hip-hop, but when you try to pretend to be some college student/persian/gansta, nobody is believing that act. All they see is an Iranian immigrant who's been Americanized.
Here's the difference between you and I. We've both changed our cultures. I've repudiated my American upbringing and replaced it with Islamic culture. You've repudiated your Persian roots, and replaced them with American culture.
Ain't no immigrant here you lame, wtf you talking about? And I do go to college, I do put it down for my family, or my gang, wutever the fuc you wanna call it. I don't pretend to be nothing cuzzin, ask doggy, he met me. As a matter of fact, ask SGV, he came thru my neighbourhood, slept at my house, met some of my people, ain't no pretending going on you fruit cake. And no I haven't changed my culture, this is all I know, and I have no shame in being a Persian and doing Persian thangs. I'm setting up a fat Persian new year party for all my Persian folks as we speak. You started this thread judging people, so you got judged bac. Nobody takes you serious.
And get off 2pac's nuts, he was a great figure in hip hop but he was a lost soul, a man of contradiction. I done talked to 2 cats that knew him, 1 actually lived with him, shit my 1st cuzzin knew him when he lived out here. 2pac had some positive goals but society held him bac. Ain't no one idolizing NO MAN out here, we don't have time for that.
And like Siavash said, quran didn't ban shit 1400 years ago, I dunno where this false information is coming from. If you have any idea how my father and uncles were raised, you'd be surprised son. They partied way more than we did. They lived it up, they use to roll around with afros gettin dumb at discos. You have no idea. Why do you think over 75% of the nation is against the Islamic Revolution? Why do you think a civil uprise is happening as we speak? Muslims brought in their laws in the name of god and took over. Now look at them, they on TV preaching about Islam but fuckin hookers and shooting up heroin behind the scenes. You dunno shit about this issue you happy goof ball, so enuff. You my friend have been Islamitized. Everything is justified to you when it comes to Islam. Pathetic.
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drinking by yourself huh, damn ur the coolest
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Ain't nobody claim to be no thug, labeling yourself limits you, don't you agree? Nope, you don't.
And my cuzzin did delieveries wit Pac, if you even kno what that means. But who cares about that, I don't, that's why I've never mentioned it till now. And the reason I did mention it was to prove to you Pac wasn't this crazy prophet you make him out to be in your lil book or long ass posts, we all know your history when it comes to Pac. Cats that knew him will tell you he was just another one of us, not you, us.
Shah was a puppet? lmao, Ask your average Persian cat about Shah, see what they tell you. Don't you get it? Khomeini ruined Iran, it's been downhill ever since. Look at the economy, the people, the crime, poverty, drug abuse, rape, schools, domestically, everything.... This Islamic take over wasn't popular, it was a sub-culture. It's just that a chunk of people got brainwashed thinking it is a better way. It took them 1000 years to get a gang of people together and take over with bloodshed. The reason why this uprise hasn't developed yet is because the Muslims are more organized and have more guns than the new generation. They shut em down everytime. They kill in the name of Allah.
And please don't talk about Islamic values, no one has those anymore except the grandmas and grandpas in each family, but they stay anti-social and some what evil.
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LMAO at this bi-polar dunce who thinks he knows a persons country and culture better than they do.
You're a racist plain and simple.
You place people into predetermined roles based on their race and race alone. You have the audacity to tell others how to act because of the color of their skin? Get the fuck out of here.
Fuck you and everything you think you stand for.
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drinking by yourself huh, damn ur the coolest
don't you ever drink a beer at home? admitted, i opened this one for this occasion, but i drink something almost everytime i have dinner :)
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What about weed? I know Islam forbids smoking weed, but is it treated the same as alcohol, or is there a higher level of tolerance towards alcohol in the Islamic culture because it is legal?
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See, now you're getting a lil too personal and gone force me to threat your punk ass white boy, but I know better. Since you're so interested to investigate me, point out 1 thing fake about me! There's nothing fake that runs in my blood, I have nothing to hide. I welcome anyone on here that wants to come out to my side of the world, just like I welcomed big homie SGV. This thread is great though, all eyes on zilla right now. I like this.
Listen.. You say I forget where I came from but I don't even understand what that means. I'm Middle Eastern, period. I ain't FROM the Middle East. You see the words on the shirt in my avatar, THAT'S where I'm from and am willing to die for. Why? cuzz that's all I've known my whole life. Some people want the whole world, but I'm happy with the boulevard. That is something you will never understand because you're not a product of anywhere, the only reason you became a Muslim was to find an identity because you were lost. You had nothing to stand for before Islam. And hey, it's all good. Whatever works, we strive in this life to find happiness, that's all that matters. But when you enter the fanatic stage and try to preach to people who have a whole different mind-state and view on life, that's when I'ma come in and ridicule your lame ass. That is not how you do it, you have to join a team to make a difference in the game, you can't do it from the stands. And really, what do you get out of this? 1 question you have to ask yourself is, am I really happy? Why do I stress on bullshit like this? This ain't what life is about.
And I don't love white women, where the fuc is all this coming from? I never even been with a white female. I don't even find the majority of them attractive, ask Siavash or anyone that knows me.
Don't tell me what element I represent from Iran, because I'm not a product of Iran. But I can tell you what element my mother represents, the element that fought and hustled all their life to achieve freedom and reach happiness. It wasn't easy, from the ghettos of Iran to murder capitals of the West. You don't know what the essense of our being is, you're shallow, we see the bigger picture, it isn't about any of these things you talk about. YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE A CULTURE CUZZIN.. but then you sit there and belittle me based on mine? How does this make sense? It doesn't. Your whole existance doesn't. Aiight, maybe I'm pushing it now, but you're as pathetic as they come. And that's all there is to it.
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Read my post again. Iran was not influenced by Islam like Saudi Arabia until 1979, I don't see why you don't understand that. Before 1979, Iran's drinking scene was similar to Europe. There were bars, nightclubs, advertisements, and yes even now if you go, there are many familys who regularly drink at home. Iran is the least islamic country there is in the middle east. Iranians hate Arabs therefore the Islam thing didn't stick to many.
So just read it again, and please admit you were wrong about the Iranian history part, don't try to change your words. Cause I already see you trying to slip out of the "alcohol has BEEN a part of the white man's culture and not the Iranians".
Alcohol has not played a large role in Iran's history over the last 1,000 years. Yes, I agree with you, that there was a period when America and Britian installed a pro-Western dictator the Shah, from 1953-till 1979 when they kicked his puppet ass out of the country. The fact that they had an Iranian revolution and kicked his ass out is proof of what I am saying! Iranians wouldn't stand for the Shah promoting Western culture and habits inside their country. Iranians strongly rejected that and they wanted to bring back a soceity that more closely identified with Islamic values.
If Iranians loved Western culture and drinking so much they wouldn't have overthrown the Shah in 1979, and they wouldn't have allowed Khomeni to come to power. That was a popular movement inside the country.
Wrong again, who said it was the Shah who promoted "western society" habits, how many times do I have to tell you, drinking alcohol has been a part of Iranians for thousands of years. Even when the Arabs came over to Iran and brought Islam and pretty much fucked all our women, There were only a group of real muslims. Many of the true persians fled the country and went north or east to India, those people are Zoroastrian, true full blooded persians, they were sick of the abusive muslims. But still the country wasn't dominated by Islamic culture like you think it was.
Oh and please dont even start on Khomeni and the Islamic Revolution of 1979. I can't believe your even arguing about this stuff with me. The people of Iran were not upset because of the "Western influence" of the Shah, thats just wishfull thinking on your part, thats what you hope it was about but no. The people of Iran were upset because the Shah was getting raped by the U.S. and other countries economically. The Shah was letting all of them take advantage of Iran, and the people weren't having that, so when someone comes along and is ready to knock down the Shah, the people couldnt give a fuck who or what he was. They were just ready to get rid of someone who was letting others take advantage. So the people gathered and got together because they had one goal: to take down the Shah. So lets make this short and please trust me on this stuff. I'm not even trying to be disrespectfull, I'm just sayin, leave this shit alone, talk about what you know, and don't try to make up shit and add a Islamic twist to it.
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gin and juice bitch
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What about weed? I know Islam forbids smoking weed, but is it treated the same as alcohol, or is there a higher level of tolerance towards alcohol in the Islamic culture because it is legal?
Islam doesn't specifically forbid smoking weed. Islam is generally against anything that would alter your conscience, but there is no specific regulation against weed.
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damn Infinites wreckin on them boys....
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I dont think muslims are against chronic. The biggest exporters of hashish is morroco and afganistan and shit so i doubt they ban weed.
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Look at how much hate you have in your blood. You're prolly prayin negatively on all your lil internet opposers as we speak. I swear If I had a dollar for everytime this fruit cake cursed out people on the internet mannn. And you're suppose to tell me you're more godly than me or anybody else on here? Look at you, nagging like a goddamn bitch and judging cats left and right. Face it, you're not happy on the inside, your lil religious movement just isn't working out for you, you'd like to think it is though. You can't argue any of the facts about us because you're not us. You wannabe us though. You're ashamed of being white, you keep flip flappin about my culture but you don't even have one. And you're mad at the world for what? Chemical imbalance in the brain ass nigga.... You my friend need some good pussy, come 2 cali and I swear I'll hook you up.. after I beat your ass ofcourse. You really do remind me of a bitch though, cuzz even if we do square up n fight, you'd prolly still hold a grudge. That's the bitch in you. The only reason I'm even acknowledging you is because Siavash knows you outside this computer shit, and hopefully 1 day I'll meet you through him.
And o yea.. hip hop is nowhere near dead, you don't even know what hip hop is.
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Crazy niccaz
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Actually, Englewood, I'm glad you stuck your ugly face into this thread, cause it's about time I exposed you. Your the reluctant skeptic, you drag your feet at every step, quiet and careful to not expose even an inch of yourself, because you knew that everything about you is easy to laugh at. Infact, the only thing I do know about you, I laughed at, I laughed when I heard your faggot ass voice in those interviews at your website.
LMAO
So we shouldn't laugh at you because you couldn't hold your life down without a religion?
We shouldn't laugh at you because you thought 2pac was a prophet?
We shouldn't laugh at you because you're a failure at life who said: "I've failed or dropped so many classes in school, and it takes me a long time to get some simple techniques at my job."
We shouldn't laugh at you because you delete your posts on a message board when they make you look stupid? What does that say about you in real life if you can't be real on a message board?
Really tho, I don't wanna get into this, but what have you done lately? You can make fun of my voice all you want, but the fact is, you haven't done shit for this board except use to as your personal pulpit to spit extremist ideas and get angry when people shoot them down.
You can only ridicule and heap scorn upon the efforts of others, reserving all your praise for an American policy that is forever engaged in a monumental bickering over the rights of people around the world to be left alone by outside powers! You fail to see the hands of your government dripping with blood from fighting in imperial deprevity over the lands of other people. You lack humanity, you lack common sense, vision, true intellect, I don't care what grades you get in school, because none of your classes have taught you how to care for human beings other than yourself. Your self-esteem and self-image is so shattered that until the pieces are put back together you're going to cover yourself in this camouflauged arrogance. But that arrogance is see through like glass. The gulf between Rod being an audacious, bootlicking, wannabe, and you being an intellectual buckdancer, is filled only with sophistication and style.
Damn dogg! You're using that internet crystal ball! It's crazy how just seconds before you were saying: the only thing I do know about you
but now you seem to know me VERY well. I'm lmao at the buckdancer comment tho. That was pure comedy.
You claim that I'm constantly "following you around" in posts, but really, take a look at this board. Who's the one making posts directed at me?
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Keep it up dude, you seem to be a real happy dude and it seems like islam has helped you with all your problems you had before you converted.
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I notice you didn't respond to the comments about you being a racist.
You’re placing individuals into your predetermined ideas of how they should act because of the color of their skin. That’s wrong. You can claim to be Mr. multicultural all you want, but it’s clear to anybody reading that your comments have strong racist undertones.
Truth hurts doesn't it?
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I really didn't wanna do this, but I'm going to...
I was going thru some of my old mp3's and found this. Guess who?
Click here to listen to infinite's "Pac is God "
(http://www.wcmixtapes.com/lmao.mp3)
Here's a rap song by the one and only infinite. It's a story that takes place 100 years in the future. It's about a cult. Started in the county penitentiary. Now tell me, who do you believe in?
You really gotta listen to it to get the full effect.
Here are some excerpts:
"The man / The phrophet / The God"
"Like Jesus, it's written in textbooks"
"Tupac's a martyr"
"2pacalinean"
And my personal favorite:
"fool backed up / and didn't want cat / get jacked up / he sits up and chats it up in the courtyard a call to arms"
How do you have ANY right to make fun of my voice when you sound like this?
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Hey, you oughta hear some of the shit I 'produced' for him. Not only were the beats pretty bad (hey, I'm not very good) but he couldn't even rap on beat. I'd have him record his 'verse', and then couldn't really fix it... so I'd have him record it again, and it'd be 10 seconds longer (because he had absolutely no concept of timing or rhythm). It was mindblowing, but not in the way he wanted it to be.
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I really didn't wanna do this, but I'm going to...
I was going thru some of my old mp3's and found this. Guess who?
Click here to listen to infinite's "Pac is God "
(http://www.wcmixtapes.com/lmao.mp3)
Here's a rap song by the one and only infinite. It's a story that takes place 100 years in the future. It's about a cult. Started in the county penitentiary. Now tell me, who do you believe in?
You really gotta listen to it to get the full effect.
Here are some excerpts:
"The man / The phrophet / The God"
"Like Jesus, it's written in textbooks"
"Tupac's a martyr"
"2pacalinean"
And my personal favorite:
"fool backed up / and didn't want cat / get jacked up / he sits up and chats it up in the courtyard a call to arms"
How do you have ANY right to make fun of my voice when you sound like this?
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, this is the funniest shit I've ever heard, you get a prop
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ok i do not agree with infinite but you look straight up stupid and ignorant as fuck there saying, "I don't give a shit about what this Allah dude got to say". how many times do people have to make clear that allah is just the arabic word for god, so this "dude" that they call allah is god ::) have some respect atleast even if you disagree
You're 100% wrong.
The conditional love and wrathful punishment of Muhammad's Allah is completely opposed to the unconditional love and peace that was preached by Jesus.
:D Finally your true colours have been exposed. While Tech is a real man who states his opinions freely from the beginning, you needed one year of adapting to this baord, one year of posting articles, then one year of playing the "smart American", before your real opinion came out. Pathetic.