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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: SGV on April 05, 2005, 02:39:57 PM
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Lets be real, dubcc, ya'll here are still stuck in 1996. It's time to support Frontline, Bishop Lamont (for his skills, not affiliation, you homos!), Balance, Mitchy Slick, Phil Da Agony, Krondon, Self Scientific, Mistah F.A.B., Blunts L.L.A., Mr. Kee, The Team, The Federation, Smigg Dirtee, A-Wax, Playa Rae, Global City, Reazn, etc.
These are the cats doing it now. They're the ones that need your support. They're the ones bringing the West back. Not Foesum, not Warren G, not MC Eiht, not South Central Cartel, NONE of these old ass rappers are bringing the West back! Anyone supporting them over the new generation is only hurting the West! New West stand up!!!
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shut it
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yup i agree. these old cats are past there time and alot of these dudes on here won't let it go.
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you forgot about 40 Glocc!
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you cant just decide whos gonna bring the west back. age has little to do with talent. i'll take spice 1 over crooked i any day.
and its gonna be sly boogy
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I think that if Sly Boogy or Crooked I would blow up, it would really pave the way for the other artists you've mentioned...So really what we should do is support the artists from the west with the most chances of blowing up...
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Lets be real, dubcc, ya'll here are still stuck in 1996. It's time to support Frontline, Bishop Lamont (for his skills, not affiliation, you homos!), Balance, Mitchy Slick, Phil Da Agony, Krondon, Self Scientific, Mistah F.A.B., Blunts L.L.A., Mr. Kee, The Team, The Federation, Smigg Dirtee, A-Wax, Playa Rae, Global City, Reazn, etc.
These are the cats doing it now. They're the ones that need your support. They're the ones bringing the West back. Not Foesum, not Warren G, not MC Eiht, not South Central Cartel, NONE of these old ass rappers are bringing the West back! Anyone supporting them over the new generation is only hurting the West! New West stand up!!!
Point blank.
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I didn't list everyone, of course, because I'll be here all day. Artists like Spitfiya, Sly, Crooked, G.Black, Bishop Lamont, etc. got major deals so they need your support the most, but that doesn't mean to exclude the others based on that fact!!
Fuck a Spice-1. He's dropped nothing but garbage for the past 7/8 years. Dude is WAY passed his prime. He is NOT whats crackin'. He still drops a hot verse every once in a while, but he ain't doing SHIT for the West by dropping so much wack shit.
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fuccin agree. south central cartel, mc eiht, snoop, daz, warren g, all some washed up ass niggas. they aint doin shit but makin the west look washed up. bitch ass studio gangstas anyway. its time for new niggas to shine. muthafuccas like Young Hoggs, Spitfiya, Lil E, Armed N Dangerous, Dresta, Swoop G.
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^^the real g's???
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Agreed!
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The westcoast never fell over it was sleeping in compton
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fantasy land...
established artists will continue to sell until they retire, their sales drop or they fuck up bad..
'confidence' in the industry is based upon a sales record. thats why people wont put out substandard product and would rather drop something we'd love to come out.. because it tarnishes the labels sales record. thats why your spice 1's etc dont have huge deals yet snoop will because he knows what to do to sell. its strictly business..
hating on them acheives nothing.
grow up and face facts. real MC's dont sell. they're too complicated for main stream audience and unless they dumb down will never appeal to the masses.
the people with the purse strings and power are idiots who want the same recycled shit over and over again.. watered down formulas copying whats host with no innovation.. if the souths hot.. they rush there.. once the west is hot again.. they'll be back.. until the love affair turns sour again or something else blows up.
when someone does break through its a suprise.. but the labels revert to formula and mix this new 'fad' into the melting pot... before you know it this persons sound is oversatured and you're back to square one.
only people who will play along with the whims of the corporate machine will suceed commercially.
its the nature of the game.
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worrd. i agree with this.
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Frontline is so damn tight!!! Their cd is banging from beginning to end
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Lets be real, dubcc, ya'll here are still stuck in 1996. It's time to support Frontline, Bishop Lamont (for his skills, not affiliation, you homos!), Balance, Mitchy Slick, Phil Da Agony, Krondon, Self Scientific, Mistah F.A.B., Blunts L.L.A., Mr. Kee, The Team, The Federation, Smigg Dirtee, A-Wax, Playa Rae, Global City, Reazn, etc.
These are the cats doing it now. They're the ones that need your support. They're the ones bringing the West back. Not Foesum, not Warren G, not MC Eiht, not South Central Cartel, NONE of these old ass rappers are bringing the West back! Anyone supporting them over the new generation is only hurting the West! New West stand up!!!
I see your point, but Im gonna continue liking, supporting, and talking about those "old" rappers over most of the new ones because I like them better.
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damn some people just put too much time thinking about West Coast Rap lol
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grow up and face facts. real MC's dont sell. they're too complicated for main stream audience and unless they dumb down will never appeal to the masses.
Whats complicated about Bishop Lamont? Blunts L.L.A.? Mr. Kee? The Team? Nothing! They don't go anywhere passed regional success because they don't get the support from their own.
There's no hating going on, only the truth. Snoop's really the only old rapper doing anything out West. I give him his props for that, because he's changing with the times, but everyone else? Please!
A.G.: We are on WestCoastConnection, so it would make sense that we "put time" into thinking about the West Coast.
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Lets be real, dubcc, ya'll here are still stuck in 1996. It's time to support Frontline, Bishop Lamont (for his skills, not affiliation, you homos!), Balance, Mitchy Slick, Phil Da Agony, Krondon, Self Scientific, Mistah F.A.B., Blunts L.L.A., Mr. Kee, The Team, The Federation, Smigg Dirtee, A-Wax, Playa Rae, Global City, Reazn, etc.
These are the cats doing it now. They're the ones that need your support. They're the ones bringing the West back. Not Foesum, not Warren G, not MC Eiht, not South Central Cartel, NONE of these old ass rappers are bringing the West back! Anyone supporting them over the new generation is only hurting the West! New West stand up!!!
i say support new artists,
but also support good music in general whether old or new artists.
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we're snoop fans, not westcoast fans...
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hey im just sayin i havent thought about this for a while...
to tell u the truth i dont know any of the artists your nameing and i dont like Bishop Lamont
i just like that old school shit
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http://s4.youshareit.com/files/15142716763069ce5d8d4f509161661a.html
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to tell u the truth i dont know any of the artists your nameing
Which is my exact poinT
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I think a lot of Hip Hop fans are afraid to try new things. I know for me, I've been listening to the Team and Federation more than anything in the last few months.
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not gonna happen because DPG can still drop tracks better then anyone in the west
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I think a lot of Hip Hop fans are afraid to try new things.
True. But sometimes the new things just aren't that good. I agree with SGV on a few things, though, there are still older rappers(Quik)who make good music. The new guys who are actually good will get my support, and so will the OGs.
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Well it's like this. When there shit catches my ears, then I'll give em support. I've been hearing heat from a few of those cats named so I'll support them.
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you forgot about e40
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not gonna happen because DPG can still drop tracks better then anyone in the west
about as closed-minded as it gets
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The new cats can't bring the west back without the help from the old mufuckas......nuff said..... 8)
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The new cats can't bring the west back without the help from the old mufuckas......nuff said..... 8)
G.Black got his foot in the door (without any help) and Game kicked it open (With 50's help). The time is now, we need to get behind our Young artists and push them to the forefront, as opposed to 34 year old dudes who won't be rappin' in another 3 years.
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man this thread is a joke to me because i judge my favorite rappers on one thing and one thing only SKILLS so i dont give a fuck about record sales.
and as a westcoast rap fan i dont have to like every new artist. I like whatever is heat whether the rapper is 20 or 37. there are some new cats I dig balance,federation,bishop,just to name a few but quite honestly there are also alot of rappers that are new and horrible.
For me age doesnt matter I still love Spice 1, e-40 and Messy Marv because they still come hard on their verses and personally i think they still drop hot fucken shit.
I like plenty of new artists on the west but to abondon my favorite rappers ever like c-bo,yukmouth,daz,kurupt,spice1,celly cel because i need to move on to the "newer rappers" is a bunch of bullshit.
I like g.black,game,crooked i and a ton of fresher cats and the more the better but in no way am I going to stop listening to the pioneers of westcoast rap!!
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Lets be real, dubcc, ya'll here are still stuck in 1996. It's time to support Frontline, Bishop Lamont (for his skills, not affiliation, you homos!), Balance, Mitchy Slick, Phil Da Agony, Krondon, Self Scientific, Mistah F.A.B., Blunts L.L.A., Mr. Kee, The Team, The Federation, Smigg Dirtee, A-Wax, Playa Rae, Global City, Reazn, etc.
These are the cats doing it now. They're the ones that need your support. They're the ones bringing the West back. Not Foesum, not Warren G, not MC Eiht, not South Central Cartel, NONE of these old ass rappers are bringing the West back! Anyone supporting them over the new generation is only hurting the West! New West stand up!!!
^^^^^ THE REALEST SHIT SHIT U EVER WROTE !!! IT'S TIME FOR THE New West Order aka THE NEW WEST TO STAND THE FUCC UP AND SUPPORT THESE NEW CATS, BECAUSE IT'S THEM THAT'S GOING TO BRING THE WEST BACC TO THE TOP, NOT THESE OLD HEADS WHO DONT GIVE A FUCC, THEY HAD THIER CHANCE AND DIDNT WANT TO BRING SOME NEW TALENT.
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Maybe snoop and dre dont care about promoting other rappers from the west and giving them a chance but that doesnt meen that everyone feels like that.
Im sure Too Short and Spice 1 would love to open new doors for other artists but they dont get the chance like snoop and snoop doesnt do shit but make songs with faggot ass artsists.
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The new cats can't bring the west back without the help from the old mufuckas......nuff said..... 8)
G.Black got his foot in the door (without any help) and Game kicked it open (With 50's help). The time is now, we need to get behind our Young artists and push them to the forefront, as opposed to 34 year old dudes who won't be rappin' in another 3 years.
Your right about Black but if Game wasnt with Aftermath (Dre) Game wouldn't of kicked shit open........Theres a lot of West Coast Rappers who are past 37 years old and their still rappin and probaly will continue until they die.......and the time is NOW but it wont happen without the Old West Coast Rappers......
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I don't really care for the artist's age. If the artist is old/new it doesn't matter to me. I support good music only. Simple as that.
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SGV i understand your point as far as talking about the "new blood" in West Coast Hip Hop that should be getting the exposure and the attention from the fans instead of us supporting these so called "old rappers" that you are talking about. I admire your point of view but where the fuck do you get off calling these guys "old"? Why, Because anybody over 30 is considered a "senior citizen" in your eyes? I don't understand how age comes into play. I'm pretty sure people that listen to James Brown, George Clinton, Ron Isley, and
Aerosmith don't think of their age when they are bumbin' their cd's in their rides or checking them out in concert.Besides, All the rappers you've mentioned are never gonna blow because of their lack of promotion,record sales,etc. because the fans know what wack is from good. Real recognize real.
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i dont care care how old somebody is as long as he is dope
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i dont care care how old somebody is as long as he is dope
SGV i understand your point as far as talking about the "new blood" in West Coast Hip Hop that should be getting the exposure and the attention from the fans instead of us supporting these so called "old rappers" that you are talking about. I admire your point of view but where the fuck do you get off calling these guys "old"? Why, Because anybody over 30 is considered a "senior citizen" in your eyes? I don't understand how age comes into play. I'm pretty sure people that listen to James Brown, George Clinton, Ron Isley, and
Aerosmith don't think of their age when they are bumbin' their cd's in their rides or checking them out in concert.Besides, All the rappers you've mentioned are never gonna blow because of their lack of promotion,record sales,etc. because the fans know what wack is from good. Real recognize real.
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Hip Hop is for the Young, period! I know these dudes ain't Gang bangin' in their 30s. I know they ain't Pimpin' in their 30s. I know they ain't slangin' D in their 30s. I know they ain't Clubbin' in their 30s! And, considering thats all most of em talk about, thats where I get off sayin' they old!
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Hip Hop is for the Young, period! I know these dudes ain't Gang bangin' in their 30s. I know they ain't Pimpin' in their 30s. I know they ain't slangin' D in their 30s. I know they ain't Clubbin' in their 30s! And, considering thats all most of em talk about, thats where I get off sayin' they old!
Well....there probably are dudes in there 30s that do that stuff, but hey, to each his own.
(by the way, you forgot Wallet, L.A. Zuu, Dynamic Certified, and Filthee Immigrants)
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Lets be real, dubcc, ya'll here are still stuck in 1996. It's time to support Frontline, Bishop Lamont (for his skills, not affiliation, you homos!), Balance, Mitchy Slick, Phil Da Agony, Krondon, Self Scientific, Mistah F.A.B., Blunts L.L.A., Mr. Kee, The Team, The Federation, Smigg Dirtee, A-Wax, Playa Rae, Global City, Reazn, etc.
These are the cats doing it now. They're the ones that need your support. They're the ones bringing the West back. Not Foesum, not Warren G, not MC Eiht, not South Central Cartel, NONE of these old ass rappers are bringing the West back! Anyone supporting them over the new generation is only hurting the West! New West stand up!!!
and for damn sure NOT snoop
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(by the way, you forgot Wallet, L.A. Zuu, Dynamic Certified, and Filthee Immigrants)
I guess people don't understand the meaning of "etc." ::)
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and how do we 'support' them? I for one won't be buying a CD until most of them have major label deals. CDs alone here cost $30, then to get it shipped here costs nearly another $20 .. thats $50 for a cd!
when they make music that catches my attention, i will start listening
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I like the new acts, and I still love the established acts. Who cares who releases CDs? There is always gonna be an underground right along side with the mainstream. Spice 1 knows he isn't gonna sell millions anymore. Not everyone is looking to sell multiplatinum. I'd say 300,000 on an independant deal probably pulls in $2 mill. That's a grip. Besides, look at Dre, Rakim, Too Short, Cube, and the Wu. They are still dropping stuff, and they all have been around for 20 or so years.
And it's not like these young guys aren't doing something. Crook is signed to Universal. Sly Boogy is getting a lot of recognition. Rick Rock doesn't need to be 20 and shit to make bangers and The Federation is tearing shit up with Sicwidit. And I forgot who 40 Glocc is signed with, but it's a major label.
Support everyone if it sounds good. Who really gives a fuck?
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^^^ real talk i just like good music whether the rapper is 20 or 38 it doesnt matter to me, i dont care if they are debuting or if they have been around for 20 years i just like good music
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EVERY ONE ON THA WEST COAST NEEDS 2 STOP HATIN ON EACH OTHER AND START BACKING EACH OTHER UP. STOP HATIN AND THROW UR DUBS UP
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True...I try to support up-and-coming artists as much as possible, but Overseer's right though: if an artist really wants to break through, he'll have no other choice than being pimped by the label and thus make his music more acceptable for the mainstream audience...
Dynamic Certified, Young Hootie, etc...there's definitely a new generation of hungry MC's out there ready to stand up.
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The new cats can't bring the west back without the help from the old mufuckas......nuff said..... 8)
G.Black got his foot in the door (without any help) and Game kicked it open (With 50's help). The time is now, we need to get behind our Young artists and push them to the forefront, as opposed to 34 year old dudes who won't be rappin' in another 3 years.
You got a point, but I refuse to support the shit they put out. I cant stand either one of their music. When the young cats start puttin out good quality shit then I'll support em. Crooked I needs to quit bullshittin. Thats some shit I can support. Balance is somebody I can support. Messy Marv aint really new, but he's still young and I support everything he releases. Majors just dont really wanna take a chance on real west coast music. They want this watered down semi east coast soundin shit for whatever reason.
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you forgot about e40
40 still makin some of the best music period. I bet you when his new shit drop you gonna be all over it.
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i say support new artists,
but also support good music in general whether old or new artists.
Word
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not gonna happen because DPG can still drop tracks better then anyone in the west
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its not a question of US supporting anybody. Most the people on here are fans of Westcoast music, thats why theyre here. Its about the westcoast media supporting our own. Theyre all too scared to take the chance. Ratings are more important then anything these days. Fuck that, Westcoast radio needs to get a fuckin backbone. Theres a reason me, and a lotta muhafuckas like me dont EVER listen to the radio. Cus i dont like lil jon, 50 cent, or any of that otha bullshit. None of these radio stations will ever blow up nationwide until they start supporting local artists. When those artist blow up...theyll blow the stations up. Simply playing what everyone else does makes u a follower, not a leader.
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the radio thing is not about having a backbone.. its about who pays the bills and who makes the playlists.... which is often a company called Clear Channel. the company has a dual interest as they also deal with advertising.. outside specialist slots often used for local news programming the stations get little choice in the actual playlists.
you guys need to know the facts about how radio works before you blanket diss them.
all these problems go a lot higher up.
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the radio thing is not about having a backbone.. its about who pays the bills and who makes the playlists.... which is often a company called Clear Channel. the company has a dual interest as they also deal with advertising.. outside specialist slots often used for local news programming the stations get little choice in the actual playlists.
you guys need to know the facts about how radio works before you blanket diss them.
all these problems go a lot higher up.
damn, youd be the perfect employee man lol. Dont push for change...just go with the flow....
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no!!.. its not about that at all. its about looking at the problem and actually looking at a REAL solution.
blaming people who cant make the change isnt the issue.. blaming established artists like this post set out to do doesnt help.
the facts are like this..
- radio, MTV, BET etc plays whats hot. whatever the labels have pressured them into doing.
- labels will only put money behind something thats selling.. if an artists first single is poor.. the dont put out a 2nd single.. they cut their losses.
- continuing from this llabels will only put out stuff thats been receieved well by the media.
when i say labels i mean corporate.. i dont mean your indie labels.
sad fact is.. these indies cant push large units without a major label connection and commitment.
back to a point i made before..
record labels are greedy.. they will put out what sells and the lesser the cost the better for them..
skills dont sell.. (ras kass) and ugly dude dont sell (bad az z. sorry lol..)
appealing to women sells.. snoop, ja rule, 50 cent, game been acting just like rnb singers.. if u aint buff? they say get in the gym get ya shirt off... labels do it they put rappers into work out programs it happened to last emperor on Rawkus... he joined rawkus which was indie, had a huge underground following.. the label got paper.. started getting staff from majors n stuff.. they fucked the label up.. the wanted dude in the gym.. he a skinny nerdy lyrical rapper.. not no rnb singer... guess what.. rawkus went bust.. they also groom them how to talk to the media.. all that shit..
above the indie scene ITS ALL FAKE and its strictly business.
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this thread isnt blamming older rappers, its making a real good point.
look at the eastcoast: do you still see Slick Rick, Public Enemy, Biz Markie, Doug E. Fresh, etc hogging the spotlight? NO.
but if you look at the big names on the West Coast from 10 years ago - same people: Snoop, Dre, Nate Dogg, Ice Cube, etc. its sad we still got old rappers like Daz, Mc Eiht, DJ Quik, and so on still tryna blow up (no offense to those artist)
I love they music but its obvious none of them are making music as good as they used to. so if they're gonna stay in the rap game, why not do something to help out our coast? help Sly Boogie, Crooked I, Spit Fiya, 40 Glocc, and all the other new cats come up.
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no!!.. its not about that at all. its about looking at the problem and actually looking at a REAL solution.
blaming people who cant make the change isnt the issue..
but pushing them is fine, they are our only connection to the higher ups. When a customer at McDonalds has a problem with the prices...they voice their complaint to the Manager...not the Owner. The Managers job is to voice the customers concerns to the Owner.
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Baby G got the idea.
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this thread isnt blamming older rappers, its making a real good point.
look at the eastcoast: do you still see Slick Rick, Public Enemy, Biz Markie, Doug E. Fresh, etc hogging the spotlight? NO.
but if you look at the big names on the West Coast from 10 years ago - same people: Snoop, Dre, Nate Dogg, Ice Cube, etc. its sad we still got old rappers like Daz, Mc Eiht, DJ Quik, and so on still tryna blow up (no offense to those artist)
I love they music but its obvious none of them are making music as good as they used to. so if they're gonna stay in the rap game, why not do something to help out our coast? help Sly Boogie, Crooked I, Spit Fiya, 40 Glocc, and all the other new cats come up.
its not even about US just supporting them. Its also about these "older rappers" supporting them. Go to the east and see who they know, or even respect from the west. It is like who u mentioned....Snoop, Dre, Cube....etc. When these respected westcoast artist wont even work with the "newer" cats....what message does that send?
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yeah he right, but them new cats need some support from the already famous rapper
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The only way for these old rappers to support the new rappers is for the new rappers to make some noise. How can they make noise? If WE support them.
Im ridin' for the New West, are you?
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its not even about US just supporting them. Its also about these "older rappers" supporting them. Go to the east and see who they know, or even respect from the west. It is like who u mentioned....Snoop, Dre, Cube....etc. When these respected westcoast artist wont even work with the "newer" cats....what message does that send?
its not even about US just supporting them. Its also about these "older rappers" supporting them. Go to the east and see who they know, or even respect from the west. It is like who u mentioned....Snoop, Dre, Cube....etc. When these respected westcoast artist wont even work with the "newer" cats....what message does that send?
yeah exactly. how about Dre give some beats to Crooked I or Spit Fiya (who could benefit from them) instead of giving them to somebody like Eminem woh waiste them on songs like "Big Weenie".
or instead of Snoop putting Nelly and 50 Cent on his album, he use his singles to promote Soopafly and Bad Azz
im tellin yall aint nobody gone support the West if we not supportin ourself
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^Yessir!!!
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I think a lot of Hip Hop fans are afraid to try new things. I know for me, I've been listening to the Team and Federation more than anything in the last few months.
afraid ain't the word for me. I live up here in BC. So the only way I can listen to these artists are by the internet..and it's fuckin hard to find these dude's albums online. YOu fuckers might say "Buy IT online!"..well, I want to listen to what im going to buy first ;D...i do that with all my albums i buy now a days.
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a perfect example of what SGV said is how 2pac and death row topics still get the most views and replies on here. i mean damn, its 2005 not 1995! shit amazes me.
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A Topic about Snoop getting a divorce gets more attention than a Frontline topic. Shit's ridiculous!!!
Es El Duque: Sandboxautomatic.com, Friscostreetshow.com, HipHopWest.com, Siccness.net, RapTalk.net, etc. These are all good online stores you can find almost anything you're lookin' for by searching these sites. Don't give me that "I can't find it online" shit!!! You can find it, you just don't look hard enough!
Give me an example of what you can't find.
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this thread isnt blamming older rappers, its making a real good point.
look at the eastcoast: do you still see Slick Rick, Public Enemy, Biz Markie, Doug E. Fresh, etc hogging the spotlight? NO.
but if you look at the big names on the West Coast from 10 years ago - same people: Snoop, Dre, Nate Dogg, Ice Cube, etc. its sad we still got old rappers like Daz, Mc Eiht, DJ Quik, and so on still tryna blow up (no offense to those artist)
I love they music but its obvious none of them are making music as good as they used to. so if they're gonna stay in the rap game, why not do something to help out our coast? help Sly Boogie, Crooked I, Spit Fiya, 40 Glocc, and all the other new cats come up.
That's it
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I think old rappers that are still makin hot shit should be supported, but the ones who fell off shouldn't. We don't hear a lot of new artist beside mixtapes here, but i expect bishop lamont to have a hot album, cuz he is a good lyricist, better than game and the rest of g-unit, so with good promotions and all that i can see him be a star
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this thread isnt blamming older rappers, its making a real good point.
look at the eastcoast: do you still see Slick Rick, Public Enemy, Biz Markie, Doug E. Fresh, etc hogging the spotlight? NO.
but if you look at the big names on the West Coast from 10 years ago - same people: Snoop, Dre, Nate Dogg, Ice Cube, etc. its sad we still got old rappers like Daz, Mc Eiht, DJ Quik, and so on still tryna blow up (no offense to those artist)
I love they music but its obvious none of them are making music as good as they used to. so if they're gonna stay in the rap game, why not do something to help out our coast? help Sly Boogie, Crooked I, Spit Fiya, 40 Glocc, and all the other new cats come up.
I agree with you to a point, but what is wrong with the older cats to release music? If Slick Rick wanted to do another CD, every rap fan in NY would stand up and support it.
And you can't assume every rapper is looking for the come up. Nate is established and he knows that. He can't push a solo CD and he knows that. But I like the fact that he will help out the indie acts. He charges them like $5000 for a hook which is pretty cheap, and for mainstream he gets like $30,000. I'm sure if you talked with a number of established rappers on independant deals, they would tell you they would do the same thing.
It's about doing something you love. The new guys, sure, they are looking for the come up. But there is nothing wrong with releasing CDs because you love doing music. If I heard MC Eiht trying to get a major deal, I wouldn't buy it cause it would be a joke. Get in where you fit in.
And from what I've seen Sly Boogy has been working with everyone. He's been on the grind. Crooked I just needs to get his name out there more, but he has worked with a lot of folks too. He was on Yukmouth's last CD. 40 Glocc has been putting in a lot of work too. Never heard of Spit Fiya. It's not on the old cats to make them blow up. They continually support the new acts, but if you are talking about getting radio play, the old guys can't even get on the radio, how the hell do you think they are gonna get other people on? It's all on the hustle of the new guys.
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dont get it twisted, im all for the "older rappers" still makin records...as long as they representin the west right. Rappers like Quik and E-40 have been around forever, Quik even longer then Snoop. But i love seein those muhafuckas come out with new shit. They keep it real westcoast. They dont sellout for a big payout, they still represent Kali. They rap about what they want to, whether it sells or not. And at the same time, i repect em FAR more then Snoop and Dre. Quik, to me might be the most talented (overall) muhafucka in rap music. The fans here do gotta support the new guys. the older cats gotta support the new guys. And the new guys gotta kick in tha door without countin on the older cats. Me myself, i havent bought an eastcoast CD in at least 9 yrs. I decided to completely stop buying em. They hate on our artists out there, they dont give us radio play out there, their record stores hardly sell any of our shit. So fuckit, i dont buy theres. Even an album i might want, i dont buy it. Westcoast artists, i buy. Problem is, so many people out here just buy into anything they see on tv. They get influenced easily. Plus, u gotta lot of "fans" that really dont know shit about rap music. But theyre positive that 50 cent is the best rapper in the world. lol. Stupid.
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Lets be real, dubcc, ya'll here are still stuck in 1996. It's time to support Frontline, Bishop Lamont (for his skills, not affiliation, you homos!), Balance, Mitchy Slick, Phil Da Agony, Krondon, Self Scientific, Mistah F.A.B., Blunts L.L.A., Mr. Kee, The Team, The Federation, Smigg Dirtee, A-Wax, Playa Rae, Global City, Reazn, etc.
These are the cats doing it now. They're the ones that need your support. They're the ones bringing the West back. Not Foesum, not Warren G, not MC Eiht, not South Central Cartel, NONE of these old ass rappers are bringing the West back! Anyone supporting them over the new generation is only hurting the West! New West stand up!!!
I agree with ya...I mean, I like the older cats and will probably never like these newer rappers shit as much as I liked the older guy's shit from 93-96, but the youth is the future!
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The only way for these old rappers to support the new rappers is for the new rappers to make some noise. How can they make noise? If WE support them.
Im ridin' for the New West, are you?
I see your point in all this talk about rappers don't rap about pimpin', bangin',slangin' way into thei mid or late 30's.
Just like when i see cats like Snoop and MC Eiht still flaggin' and wearing colors at the age of 33. Shit don't make sense.
My bad SGV for kinda venting at you earlier. I will behave now Sir....lol
I'm all for supporting the new Blood in West Coast music as long as they come correct.
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i agree with lots of whats being said but even the old rappers , well we aint really hearing about em , like mc eiht anyway, i still wanna hear stuff from him its all good ... snoop well hes doin a great job and trying to bring the west back maybe others need to step back yea
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i thought someone brought up an old thread from several years ago...i remember starting bascially the same thread about 3 years ago...the situation is still the same and is pretty much not gonna change...no one is gonna support those artists outside of hardcore westcoast fans...and most of them will just download the music anyway..so we are pretty much waisting our time here 8)
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EVERY ONE ON THA WEST COAST NEEDS 2 STOP HATIN ON EACH OTHER AND START BACKING EACH OTHER UP. STOP HATIN AND THROW UR DUBS UP
we gotta suport every artist doin somethang for da west.we gotta suport da new and da 'old' artists.we gotta keep together and suport da west.
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This isn't true for just the westcoast... it's every coast, from east to west, north to south... it's every side... man, it's world mutha fucking wide...
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Lets be real, dubcc, ya'll here are still stuck in 1996. It's time to support Frontline, Bishop Lamont (for his skills, not affiliation, you homos!), Balance, Mitchy Slick, Phil Da Agony, Krondon, Self Scientific, Mistah F.A.B., Blunts L.L.A., Mr. Kee, The Team, The Federation, Smigg Dirtee, A-Wax, Playa Rae, Global City, Reazn, etc.
These are the cats doing it now. They're the ones that need your support. They're the ones bringing the West back. Not Foesum, not Warren G, not MC Eiht, not South Central Cartel, NONE of these old ass rappers are bringing the West back! Anyone supporting them over the new generation is only hurting the West! New West stand up!!!
You make a good point. Most of the Westcoast vets are stuck back in the day. Ain't puttin' nothin' new out. However, you also need to tell the new artists to step they game up. I'd say about 75-80% of the new Westcoast emcees poppin' up have been complete garbage IMO. If Westcoast fans hardly even feel them, how is the rest of the world going to?
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warren g still has that heat though.
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You make a good point. Most of the Westcoast vets are stuck back in the day. Ain't puttin' nothin' new out. However, you also need to tell the new artists to step they game up. I'd say about 75-80% of the new Westcoast emcees poppin' up have been complete garbage IMO. If Westcoast fans hardly even feel them, how is the rest of the world going to?
9 out of 10 up and coming emcees from the West are more lyrical than any emcee prior to them. Lyricism still isn't respected in the West. Its getting there, but it'll be another while. People are more concerned with whos more "Gangsta" than anything else, out West, still.
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I don't think people realize, gangsta music is dead now.
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9 out of 10 up and coming emcees from the West are more lyrical than any emcee prior to them. Lyricism still isn't respected in the West. Its getting there, but it'll be another while. People are more concerned with whos more "Gangsta" than anything else, out West, still.
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I don't think people realize, gangsta music is dead now.
NY just doesn't want to believe that the west actually has some people that can spit better than most rappers over there. But it's hard to stray away from the gangsta scene when it's there every single day. And if you think about it, the northeast is really the only place without actual gangs. They have their cliques, but they aren't out there with red and blue on. But to be truly honest with you, I believe gangsta music is dead too. Spice 1, SCC, RBX, and so on will never be able to release music like they used to and have it sell today. It's just a change. Gangsta shit will always be popular, but the murder raps aren't working anymore.
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you know whos good?
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i thought someone brought up an old thread from several years ago...i remember starting bascially the same thread about 3 years ago...the situation is still the same and is pretty much not gonna change...no one is gonna support those artists outside of hardcore westcoast fans...and most of them will just download the music anyway..so we are pretty much waisting our time here 8)
True...Many people have made this point way before SGV.