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Title: Pope benedict XVI is the new pope!!!
Post by: smoke562 on April 19, 2005, 10:01:31 AM
cardinal Joseph ratzinger from germany is the new pope

he'll now be known as pope benedict XVI

just been said on the news live a couple minutes ago
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Post by: Makaveli R.I.P. on April 19, 2005, 10:10:48 AM
yeah i was writing a new topic about this at the moment, but u were faster  ;)
i also watched it live in tv
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Post by: Mindless Minority on April 19, 2005, 10:29:39 AM
Former member of Hitler Youth and condemns homosexuals, married & women priests.
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Post by: 'EclipZe on April 19, 2005, 10:38:59 AM
whoop-die-fukin-doo he 78 yrs old hell be dead in 2 years and we get a new one
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Post by: M Dogg™ on April 19, 2005, 12:13:47 PM
It was clear the Cardnals were not trying to follow up the Great John Paul II (yeah I said it, the Great) with another Pope that will have as much change. The idea was to pick a fatherly, older Pope that will not have a long reign. I am not a fan of how conservative he is, I mean, John Paul II was conservative, but he was also groundbreaking and extended the Papacy to lengths never seen. But I understand the decision, and in a couple of years we'll see what happens. I was hoping for Oscar Andres Rodriguez Maradiaga, but that was a long shot and I expect that After Pope Benedict XVI, Rodriguez will be older and maybe they'll choice him. I am happy for Pope Benedict XVI though, and it is God's work, we will see what happens.
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Post by: BAY_BOY_408 on April 19, 2005, 12:29:55 PM
yes iT IS VERY INTERESTING HOW THEY PICKED ANOTHER EUROPEAN POPE! i WAS HOPING FOR A LATIN AMERICAN POPE that is WHY I WAS HOPING FOR Oscar Andres Rodriguez Maradiaga..BUT IT WAS GOD'S WORK AND BENEDICT XVI WAS THE BETTER POPE CANIDATE! WE'LL JUST SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH TIME TO COME!
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Post by: jpm on April 19, 2005, 12:36:38 PM
gods work .. right ........
dont understand why would anyone be interested by the pope
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Post by: Lincoln on April 19, 2005, 12:51:01 PM
Good choice in my opinion.
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Post by: acbaylove on April 19, 2005, 01:57:22 PM
I think the Saint Spirit has nothing to do with this election. I think it's 101% political. Politically correct. The most important Cardinal in Europe, who's 78 years old, to take the necessary time to elect the "real" next Pope. I dont like him at all, but i accept this move. He's my Pope now.
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Post by: mauzip on April 19, 2005, 02:04:33 PM
I heard he's another conservative pope... :psych:
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Post by: acbaylove on April 19, 2005, 02:07:58 PM
I heard he's another conservative pope... :psych:

He is. People in Rome didnt like this election at all. But like i said, it was the most politically correct move to do. And they did it. He's 78, he'll not reign forever. The next one will probably change the Church, that's why they are taking all the time they need to prepare it. I think they'll do a revolution. A Christian revolution.
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Post by: mauzip on April 19, 2005, 02:31:27 PM
i hope you're right
Title: Re: Pope benedict XVI is the new pope!!!
Post by: mauzip on April 19, 2005, 02:52:27 PM
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Men som 14-åring gikk han inn i Hitler-Jugend. I 1943 ble han så innkalt for å være med i luftvernet av en BMW-fabrikk i München.

Ratzingers fortid er gammelt nytt, og selv har han mange ganger sagt at han ble tvunget inn i både Hitler-Jugend og den tyske krigsmakten. Likevel har dette blitt trukket inn i pavediskusjonen igjen de siste dagene.
http://vg.no/pub/vgart.hbs?artid=274140

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In Forumsbeiträgen auf der englischsprachigen Site "The Cardinal Ratzinger Fan Club" wird unter anderem über das Engagement des bayerischen Geistlichen in der Hitler-Jugend debattiert. Ratzinger wird zudem für seine Ablehnung von Homosexuellen kritisiert. Kardinal Ratzinger sei selbst der Teufel, da Millionen Schwulen und Lesben Diskriminierungen aussetze, schreibt ein Teilnehmer. Jesus hätte dies niemals zugelassen.
http://www.n24.de/wirtschaft/multimedia/artikel/2005/04/15/print_2005041513480900002.html

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Allez nu, wie stemt er nu op: Joop Zoetemelk, Fred Astaire, Eddy Wally of Johny Hoes?

Erger nog, wie stemt er op een ex-hitlerjugend-lid Kardinaal?

Jef Ratzinger verontschuldigde zich ooit wel om zijn lidmaatschap bij die bende nalopers, maar er is meer dan dat.

Opus Dei, Het Recht, La Cosa Nostra, Het Werk, etc... en andere extremistische groeperingen binnen de rooms-katholieke kerk, luisteren naar "der generaal", naar Herr Von Ratzinger, want zo mag je hem en zijn visie wel noemen.
http://eufrasieke.web-log.nl/

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In 1986 Ratzinger issued a letter to the Catholic Bishops in which he wrote that homosexuality was a ‘tendency’ towards an ‘intrinsic moral evil’. A few years later, in 1992, he rejected the notion of human rights for gays, stressing that their civil liberties could be ‘legitimately limited’. He followed up by remarking that ‘neither the church nor society should be surprised’ if ‘irrational and violent reactions increase’ when gays demand civil rights. Not a man to mince his words, Ratzinger urgently set to work to ferret out gay-sensitive clergy.
http://www.newint.org/issue327/worldbeaters.htm


Sorry for the ones who can't translate it. Among others it says this pope used to be member of the Hitler Jugend, but he apologized for that. It also says that extremists in the catholic church listen to this man. I'm sure there's a lot more you can find about this man with simple google searches. Great man. :-X
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Post by: Sikotic™ on April 19, 2005, 02:56:38 PM
He's a transitional Pope. The guy won't be alive for more than 10 years probably.
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Post by: mauzip on April 19, 2005, 02:57:45 PM
He's a transitional Pope. The guy won't be alive for more than 10 years probably.

let's just hope he dies a.s.a.p. and that antonio's right
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Post by: Ðøšïå on April 19, 2005, 04:53:39 PM
He's a transitional Pope. The guy won't be alive for more than 10 years probably.

let's just hope he dies a.s.a.p. and that antonio's right

lol, damn why so much hate for popes? i guess ive read your reasoning no need to explain.  :)
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Post by: 411 on April 19, 2005, 06:50:55 PM
I shoulda been the next pope..... :-\ 8)
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Post by: 'EclipZe on April 20, 2005, 02:35:00 AM
I wanted that african guy
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Post by: acbaylove on April 20, 2005, 02:36:14 AM
I wanted that african guy

Too early. They gotta prepare him and the world for him.
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Post by: 7even on April 20, 2005, 06:24:05 AM
Everybody was a member of the Hitlerjugend back then, it wasnt about killing Jews you dumbasses. It wasnt even very political, more like some pathfinding organisation for young people.
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Post by: Lincoln on April 20, 2005, 07:13:37 AM
Mauzip why do you care so much about the Pope's views you don't agree with? If you aren't a Catholic no one is holding a gun to your head to make you accept and practice them.
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Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 20, 2005, 07:27:43 AM
So according to Catholics, when does he get to start talking to God?  Is it before, or after he's elected?  Don't Catholics believe he can forgive their sins and talk to God, etc.?

I don't believe in all that intercession and all that, but I'll be respectful because the last Pope worked to biuld stronger relationships with Muslims and he was driven towards World Peace.

Still, could one of the educated Catholics like MDogg explain to me exactly what the Popes role is and what, if any, relationship he has to God?
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Post by: 411 on April 20, 2005, 07:55:21 AM
He should start in exactly 2:00 minutes.....btw im not catholic
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Post by: Bomb-A® on April 20, 2005, 10:14:18 AM
is the pope always an shrivled old man who can barely join his hands in prayer???
LOL i heard that benedict XV was the shortest reigning pope ever....so this dude picked this name coz he prolly felt he wasnt gonna reign very long either




peace
Title: Re: Pope benedict XVI is the new pope!!!
Post by: mauzip on April 20, 2005, 10:51:12 AM
Mauzip why do you care so much about the Pope's views you don't agree with? If you aren't a Catholic no one is holding a gun to your head to make you accept and practice them.

cause he has so much power

most of you guys can't seem to admit that a pope could be wrong as well
Title: Re: Pope benedict XVI is the new pope!!!
Post by: smoke562 on April 20, 2005, 01:05:27 PM
So according to Catholics, when does he get to start talking to God?  Is it before, or after he's elected?  Don't Catholics believe he can forgive their sins and talk to God, etc.?

I don't believe in all that intercession and all that, but I'll be respectful because the last Pope worked to biuld stronger relationships with Muslims and he was driven towards World Peace.

Still, could one of the educated Catholics like MDogg explain to me exactly what the Popes role is and what, if any, relationship he has to God?
^
see dude, you obviously have no knowledge as you obviously got no clue what you are talking about.
we talk to god thru our prayers. ........everybody, not just the pope.
the pope is just an important figure that leads the church. he is admired deeply, but not worshiped.
who ever is feeding you the bullshit you are saying needs to be slapped.
I wanted that african guy
you wanted the african guy, but he would of been just as conservative and maybe even more hardline than the new pope.
are u cool with that?...
i wouldnt of minded if he became pope, but i dont hope for someone to be pope just coz "they should have someone that is black" . i hope for someone to keep the catholic church in its orthodox state like it should be. if he's black or he asian or indian or european etc it doesnt matter to me.its not important
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Post by: jpm on April 20, 2005, 01:32:31 PM
he dont have power ....... yall bullshiting ......... just followers that give him power .... i really thought there was no more ppl trusting in god (18years old and younger)..... not a joke .... i was like WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON when everyone was talkin about the fuckin pope
Title: Re: Pope benedict XVI is the new pope!!!
Post by: smoke562 on April 20, 2005, 01:56:50 PM
what do you mean by power?...
well he runs the catholic church, and controls the the laws in catholism.
if a priest decides to make his own rules in his church, he'll be outcasted and not recognised in the catholic church.
so if thats what you mean by power, then yes
but he dont control the believers. they do that on their own will
but he definately controlls how the catholic church is run
Title: Re: Pope benedict XVI is the new pope!!!
Post by: mauzip on April 20, 2005, 02:12:09 PM
the fact that nearly every world leader was at the pope's funeral should tell you how much power he has
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Post by: smoke562 on April 20, 2005, 02:29:17 PM
^
the reason of that is coz he built alot of relationships with various leaders as he tours all around the world so much
Title: Re: Pope benedict XVI is the new pope!!!
Post by: Fuck Your Existence on April 20, 2005, 03:18:28 PM
Everybody was a member of the Hitlerjugend back then, it wasnt about killing Jews you dumbasses. It wasnt even very political, more like some pathfinding organisation for young people.
true,and you didnt exactly have a choice to join
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Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 20, 2005, 04:21:01 PM
So according to Catholics, when does he get to start talking to God?  Is it before, or after he's elected?  Don't Catholics believe he can forgive their sins and talk to God, etc.?

I don't believe in all that intercession and all that, but I'll be respectful because the last Pope worked to biuld stronger relationships with Muslims and he was driven towards World Peace.

Still, could one of the educated Catholics like MDogg explain to me exactly what the Popes role is and what, if any, relationship he has to God?
^
see dude, you obviously have no knowledge as you obviously got no clue what you are talking about.
we talk to god thru our prayers. ........everybody, not just the pope.
the pope is just an important figure that leads the church. he is admired deeply, but not worshiped.
who ever is feeding you the bullshit you are saying needs to be slapped.
I wanted that african guy
you wanted the african guy, but he would of been just as conservative and maybe even more hardline than the new pope.
are u cool with that?...
i wouldnt of minded if he became pope, but i dont hope for someone to be pope just coz "they should have someone that is black" . i hope for someone to keep the catholic church in its orthodox state like it should be. if he's black or he asian or indian or european etc it doesnt matter to me.its not important

That's why I asked for somebody educated like MDogg to answer.

My mom's side of the family is Catholic, and my fathers side is baptist.  I grew up around it on my mothers side, so I have some idea about Catholisism although obviously worshipping a man as God or Gods son or praying to his mom and all the hypocrisy never interested me.  But I know people go into confession and ask for a priest to forgive them or something like that, so I don't see what was so unacceptable about my questions about the Pope.  Anyway, I don't want to be disrepectful to the Pope (and MDogg is one of the better posters here) .....so I'll stop there.
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Post by: Woodrow on April 20, 2005, 04:25:24 PM
You're a fucking dunce. You won't stop there. You'll continue to ask stupid ass questions about a religion not to know the answers, but to try to make it look bad.

Congrats: You're a failure at LIFE.
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Post by: ecrazy on April 20, 2005, 04:32:02 PM
You're a fucking dunce. You won't stop there. You'll continue to ask stupid ass questions about a religion not to know the answers, but to try to make it look bad.

Congrats: You're a failure at LIFE.
Agreed!
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Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 20, 2005, 04:41:33 PM
You're a fucking dunce. You won't stop there. You'll continue to ask stupid ass questions about a religion not to know the answers, but to try to make it look bad.

Congrats: You're a failure at LIFE.

According to your worldview, I am a failure.  So I guess it's a good thing that I don't subscribe to your way of thinking.  Because in my way of thinking having an individual like yourself reject me is only further confirmation that Allah has accepted me in his path. 
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Post by: Woodrow on April 20, 2005, 04:48:31 PM
According to your worldview, I am a failure.  So I guess it's a good thing that I don't subscribe to your way of thinking.  Because in my way of thinking having an individual like yourself reject me is only further confirmation that Allah has accepted me in his path. 
My worldview??? My way of thinking?!!! Do you mean the worldview and way of thinking of damn near everybody on the face of the planet? Where education and accomplishment are rewarded and ignorance and hatred are shunned?

Yeah. My worldview is the problem here...

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Pope benedict XVI is the new pope!!!
Post by: Don Jacob on April 20, 2005, 09:53:33 PM
So according to Catholics, when does he get to start talking to God?  Is it before, or after he's elected?  Don't Catholics believe he can forgive their sins and talk to God, etc.?

I don't believe in all that intercession and all that, but I'll be respectful because the last Pope worked to biuld stronger relationships with Muslims and he was driven towards World Peace.

Still, could one of the educated Catholics like MDogg explain to me exactly what the Popes role is and what, if any, relationship he has to God?
^
see dude, you obviously have no knowledge as you obviously got no clue what you are talking about.
we talk to god thru our prayers. ........everybody, not just the pope.
the pope is just an important figure that leads the church. he is admired deeply, but not worshiped.
who ever is feeding you the bullshit you are saying needs to be slapped.
I wanted that african guy
you wanted the african guy, but he would of been just as conservative and maybe even more hardline than the new pope.
are u cool with that?...
i wouldnt of minded if he became pope, but i dont hope for someone to be pope just coz "they should have someone that is black" . i hope for someone to keep the catholic church in its orthodox state like it should be. if he's black or he asian or indian or european etc it doesnt matter to me.its not important

That's why I asked for somebody educated like MDogg to answer.

My mom's side of the family is Catholic, and my fathers side is baptist.  I grew up around it on my mothers side, so I have some idea about Catholisism although obviously worshipping a man as God or Gods son or praying to his mom and all the hypocrisy never interested me.  But I know people go into confession and ask for a priest to forgive them or something like that, so I don't see what was so unacceptable about my questions about the Pope.  Anyway, I don't want to be disrepectful to the Pope (and MDogg is one of the better posters here) .....so I'll stop there.


i hate infiinite's lil tactics of bringing the religion down then washing his hands at his ignorace.

i'd be an ASS HOLE if i sat here and said "


" i have a best friend who was muslum so i have some idea what that insane religion is about. i never got why so many people who follow a religion that was conceived by some random guy who said he was enlightened and proceeded to write a WHOLE new testiment of god for people to follow and to disregard the exhisting testiments of god  and the stories about the prophets and messiahs that were known at the time are now known a little bit differently.all this seemed a little batty to me, ::twirls finger in hair:: someone who's mooslum please clarify "

no one is tearing down your religion infiinite don't denigrate ours.

but i have a real question ...how come the pope changes his name? and what was pope john paul II's name before he was pope
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Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 20, 2005, 10:06:04 PM



i hate infiinite's lil tactics of bringing the religion down then washing his hands at his ignorace.

i'd be an ASS HOLE if i sat here and said "


" i have a best friend who was muslum so i have some idea what that insane religion is about. i never got why so many people who follow a religion that was conceived by some random guy who said he was enlightened and proceeded to write a WHOLE new testiment of god for people to follow and to disregard the exhisting testiments of god  and the stories about the prophets and messiahs that were known at the time are now known a little bit differently.all this seemed a little batty to me, ::twirls finger in hair:: someone who's mooslum please clarify "

no one is tearing down your religion infiinite don't denigrate ours.

but i have a real question ...how come the pope changes his name? and what was pope john paul II's name before he was pope

Actually, you can question my religion all you want.  The Noble Qu'ran is rooted in reality.  Islam is a practical religion.  We don't accept any intercessor's between us and God, we don't ascribe any man as being a representative of God.  We only worship the Creator and Sustainer of the Worlds and All the Systems of Knowledge.
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Post by: Woodrow on April 20, 2005, 10:07:37 PM
So now we're questioning YOUR religion??!!!


LOL The gall of this bitch.
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Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 20, 2005, 10:13:42 PM
The former Pope let it be known up front that he was an unbeliever (in Islam).  Likewise, I'm letting it be known that I don't believe in Catholosism, I don't believe in a man being God (Jesus), I don't believe that the Creator of the worlds needed to send his son to learn forgiveness or to learn what suffering was, I don't believe in a man being an intermediary to God (pope).  Yet I still respect the Pope for working to biuld stronger, more peaceful relationships between Muslims and Catholics, and I am united with him in that struggle.  I saw that with my own eyes.  I have seen Catholic churches make efforts to spread awareness in their churches about the true Islam, and I applaud them in those efforts, I've worked with Catholic churches here locally.
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Post by: Don Jacob on April 20, 2005, 10:16:26 PM



i hate infiinite's lil tactics of bringing the religion down then washing his hands at his ignorace.

i'd be an ASS HOLE if i sat here and said "


" i have a best friend who was muslum so i have some idea what that insane religion is about. i never got why so many people who follow a religion that was conceived by some random guy who said he was enlightened and proceeded to write a WHOLE new testiment of god for people to follow and to disregard the exhisting testiments of god  and the stories about the prophets and messiahs that were known at the time are now known a little bit differently.all this seemed a little batty to me, ::twirls finger in hair:: someone who's mooslum please clarify "

no one is tearing down your religion infiinite don't denigrate ours.

but i have a real question ...how come the pope changes his name? and what was pope john paul II's name before he was pope

Actually, you can question my religion all you want.  The Noble Qu'ran is rooted in reality.  Islam is a practical religion.  We don't accept any intercessor's between us and God, we don't ascribe any man as being a representative of God.  We only worship the Creator and Sustainer of the Worlds and All the Systems of Knowledge.

the Qu'ran came after the Bible right? so either God just totally changed his mind or the bible was all fiction to begin with.  which is it?
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Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 20, 2005, 10:22:58 PM



the Qu'ran came after the Bible right? so either God just totally changed his mind or the bible was all fiction to begin with.  which is it?

God has never changed his mind.  His message to mankind has been the same throughout time.  Worship God only, and do righteous good deeds.  That was the message Adam was given, that was the message Noah was given, that was the message Abraham was given, that was the message Jesus was given, that was the message Muhammad was given, that was the message that all the prophets (some of which are known and some unknown by man) were given. 

Muslims believe in much of the gospel.  If you read the Old Testament (Torah), the message is similar to the Noble Qu'ran.  The message is to worship God alone ascribing no partners to him, to follow the messengers, and to do righteous good deeds. 

Then after the Prophet Jesus died, Paul and others came along and altered the text of the bible and started teaching that Jesus was God, and that Jesus had died to save their sins.  So many fell into error because of this. 

The Qu'ran is God's final revelation to men, and Muhammad was not just sent to a people of one region, but the message he revealed was the final message and one in which God was sending to all of mankind.

..........so the only deviation we have is Paul and his people teaching that Jesus was God and that he died for our sins.  If you leave out that corruption, then Muhammad's monotheistic message is consistent with all other prophets before him.
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Post by: Woodrow on April 21, 2005, 12:50:07 AM
the Qu'ran came after the Bible right? so either God just totally changed his mind or the bible was all fiction to begin with.  which is it?
Jake, You gotta realize that you've gotta call a spade a spade...

If you ask a dunce about being stupid, He's gonna talk a whole bunch. That doesn't mean he's gonna say anything worth hearing.

Same with this dude.

He's an obvious bigot. The second you discuss something he says, or engage him in an argument, it vindicates all that bullshit that he just spewed and he's gonna think it counts for something.

The best way to deal with individuals like him (morons) is to not discuss the content, but point out his blatant bigotry.
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Post by: acbaylove on April 21, 2005, 01:46:55 AM
Everybody was a member of the Hitlerjugend back then, it wasnt about killing Jews you dumbasses. It wasnt even very political, more like some pathfinding organisation for young people.

Exactly. It was the same with italian Balillas (fasci-organizations of very young people who dressed black screaming Dux Mea Lux and who didnt even know what that means..). Shit some of you are paranoid. Karol Wojtyla joined the Nazi-army when he was young!! Cause he was forced to. There was a World War going on.. Ratzinger didnt kill people, he didnt kill jews. Shit he was so young back then he didnt even knew the world, but he knew only the Hitler version of the world! It's like if you went to Afghanistain 3 years ago. Females didnt even know in 99.9% of the rest of the world females use to go to school and have a real life with the same rights of males. It's like Cubans till a pair of weeks ago: they didnt even know the Pope was been in the Hospital and shit. They only told them he died. Ratzinger and Wojtyla grew up under the Nazism. Ratzinger in Germany, Wojtyla in Poland. Same drama, different places.
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Post by: 'EclipZe on April 21, 2005, 07:46:00 AM
I wanted that african guy
you wanted the african guy, but he would of been just as conservative and maybe even more hardline than the new pope.
are u cool with that?...
i wouldnt of minded if he became pope, but i dont hope for someone to be pope just coz "they should have someone that is black" . i hope for someone to keep the catholic church in its orthodox state like it should be. if he's black or he asian or indian or european etc it doesnt matter to me.its not important

it doesn't matter 2 me 2 but he sounded like a good choice for being the new pope, and he aint such an oldie... they need a younger pope :/ and make Christians believe again... do somethin about the church...
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Post by: King Tech Quadafi on April 21, 2005, 08:32:14 AM
You're a fucking dunce. You won't stop there. You'll continue to ask stupid ass questions about a religion not to know the answers, but to try to make it look bad.


Isnt it ironic?




Dont u think?
Title: Re: Pope benedict XVI is the new pope!!!
Post by: Don Jacob on April 21, 2005, 11:01:56 AM



the Qu'ran came after the Bible right? so either God just totally changed his mind or the bible was all fiction to begin with.  which is it?

God has never changed his mind.  His message to mankind has been the same throughout time.  Worship God only, and do righteous good deeds.  That was the message Adam was given, that was the message Noah was given, that was the message Abraham was given, that was the message Jesus was given, that was the message Muhammad was given, that was the message that all the prophets (some of which are known and some unknown by man) were given. 

Muslims believe in much of the gospel.  If you read the Old Testament (Torah), the message is similar to the Noble Qu'ran.  The message is to worship God alone ascribing no partners to him, to follow the messengers, and to do righteous good deeds. 

Then after the Prophet Jesus died, Paul and others came along and altered the text of the bible and started teaching that Jesus was God, and that Jesus had died to save their sins.  So many fell into error because of this. 

The Qu'ran is God's final revelation to men, and Muhammad was not just sent to a people of one region, but the message he revealed was the final message and one in which God was sending to all of mankind.

..........so the only deviation we have is Paul and his people teaching that Jesus was God and that he died for our sins.  If you leave out that corruption, then Muhammad's monotheistic message is consistent with all other prophets before him.


^ this is where you fucked up  :)
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Post by: Fuck Your Existence on April 22, 2005, 02:20:56 AM
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Title: Re: Pope benedict XVI is the new pope!!!
Post by: rafsta on April 24, 2005, 11:52:02 AM
So according to Catholics, when does he get to start talking to God?  Is it before, or after he's elected?  Don't Catholics believe he can forgive their sins and talk to God, etc.?

I don't believe in all that intercession and all that, but I'll be respectful because the last Pope worked to biuld stronger relationships with Muslims and he was driven towards World Peace.

Still, could one of the educated Catholics like MDogg explain to me exactly what the Popes role is and what, if any, relationship he has to God?

according to what catholics ? anyone can talk to God, the role of the pope is to guide catholics.... the Pope should understand, know, study and be absolutely devoted to the work of God and Jesus Christ... It isn't anywhere near thinking as soon as he is elected he can speak to God, that is non-sense....