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Title: [poll] Michael Jackson Verdict Due Any Day Now - Predictions/Opinion Poll
Post by: Don Seer on June 08, 2005, 03:25:45 AM
i predict he'll be fined for giving a minor alcohol thing
Title: Re: [poll] Michael Jackson Verdict Due Any Moment - Predictions/Opinion Poll
Post by: The Watcher on June 08, 2005, 03:53:01 AM
any moment? the jury is back?
Title: Re: [poll] Michael Jackson Verdict Due Any Moment - Predictions/Opinion Poll
Post by: Don Seer on June 08, 2005, 03:57:27 AM

not yet..
they're in every morning at 9am and work till 2.30pm..


my use of the word moment was a it dramatic. lol.. the verdict is due any day..
Title: Re: [poll] Michael Jackson Verdict Due Any Moment - Predictions/Opinion Poll
Post by: Leggy Hendrix on June 08, 2005, 03:57:54 AM
i honestly have no idea...havent been following the case too closely...
Title: Re: [poll] Michael Jackson Verdict Due Any Moment - Predictions/Opinion Poll
Post by: The Watcher on June 08, 2005, 03:58:24 AM
yeah, i just started checking CNN & shit thinking the jury was back, heh
Title: Re: [poll] Michael Jackson Verdict Due Any Moment - Predictions/Opinion Poll
Post by: Trauma-san on June 08, 2005, 04:48:38 AM
I think free, but they'll find some way to stick him over the alcohol thing.  I don't think he was going out of his way to get the kids drunk, but I think he probably knew they were drinking and let it happen.
Title: Re: [poll] Michael Jackson Verdict Due Any Moment - Predictions/Opinion Poll
Post by: Don Seer on June 08, 2005, 04:50:08 AM
^ yeah likely...

is that really a serious crime over there?

because over here if they're at home with their parents/guardians then they can drink whatever the hell they like..

Title: Re: [poll] Michael Jackson Verdict Due Any Moment - Predictions/Opinion Poll
Post by: Capo Di Tutti I Capi on June 08, 2005, 05:22:55 AM
Free as a bird..
Title: Re: [poll] Michael Jackson Verdict Due Any Moment - Predictions/Opinion Poll
Post by: Bigjames on June 08, 2005, 09:44:49 AM
Guilty and set free because he made Thriller.
Title: Re: [poll] Michael Jackson Verdict Due Any Moment - Predictions/Opinion Poll
Post by: Matrix Heart on June 08, 2005, 10:05:32 AM
I hope he gets 18 years.
Title: Re: [poll] Michael Jackson Verdict Due Any Moment - Predictions/Opinion Poll
Post by: westkoastanostra on June 08, 2005, 12:14:44 PM
free ;)
Title: Re: [poll] Michael Jackson Verdict Due Any Moment - Predictions/Opinion Poll
Post by: RECOGNIZE187 on June 08, 2005, 01:05:31 PM
i think we will know on friday!!!!!

FREE!!

1000 % innocent!!
Title: Re: [poll] Michael Jackson Verdict Due Any Moment - Predictions/Opinion Poll
Post by: BigBDrugStores on June 08, 2005, 02:04:19 PM
option 1
Title: Re: [poll] Michael Jackson Verdict Due Any Moment - Predictions/Opinion Poll
Post by: RECOGNIZE187 on June 08, 2005, 02:09:34 PM
sorry...it will never happen!
Title: Re: [poll] Michael Jackson Verdict Due Any Moment - Predictions/Opinion Poll
Post by: Don Jacob on June 08, 2005, 02:15:45 PM
i put on the news as soon as i saw "any moment now", the only thing they said was that one of the jury members has NEVER heard, seen, or read about michael jackson in his life..... :o
Title: Re: [poll] Michael Jackson Verdict Due Any Moment - Predictions/Opinion Poll
Post by: ecrazy on June 08, 2005, 02:16:09 PM
i dunno ???
Title: Re: [poll] Michael Jackson Verdict Due Any Moment - Predictions/Opinion Poll
Post by: Don Seer on June 08, 2005, 02:32:29 PM
i put on the news as soon as i saw "any moment now", the only thing they said was that one of the jury members has NEVER heard, seen, or read about michael jackson in his life..... :o

has he/she been in a coma or something?

imagine the other jurors trying to explain...
Title: Re: [poll] Michael Jackson Verdict Due Any Moment - Predictions/Opinion Poll
Post by: Sikotic™ on June 08, 2005, 02:35:37 PM
I don't know. There's obviously a struggle since it's taking so long.
Title: Re: [poll] Michael Jackson Verdict Due Any Moment - Predictions/Opinion Poll
Post by: Don Seer on June 08, 2005, 02:37:54 PM
well its 10 different counts..

they only work in the court for 5 hours a day and they have 3 breaks amongst that

also.. they ALL have to agree on the verdict.. and until they do they will have to go over the evidence..

this "reasonable doubt" thing that MJs lawyers keep reiterating about is likely to set him free if the jurors dont lose sight of that
Title: Re: [poll] Michael Jackson Verdict Due Any Moment - Predictions/Opinion Poll
Post by: Suga Foot on June 08, 2005, 02:39:45 PM
I don't give a fuck.  I'll still listen to his music either way.  I never really put much thought into him as a person anyway. 
Title: Re: [poll] Michael Jackson Verdict Due Any Moment - Predictions/Opinion Poll
Post by: mauzip on June 08, 2005, 02:42:50 PM
i honestly have no idea...havent been following the case too closely...
Title: Re: [poll] Michael Jackson Verdict Due Any Moment - Predictions/Opinion Poll
Post by: DonCorleone on June 08, 2005, 03:07:59 PM
He'll be free as a birdie
Title: Re: [poll] Michael Jackson Verdict Due Any Day Now - Predictions/Opinion Poll
Post by: Don Seer on June 08, 2005, 03:29:08 PM
i changed topic to be less dramatic :D
Title: Re: [poll] Michael Jackson Verdict Due Any Day Now - Predictions/Opinion Poll
Post by: RECOGNIZE187 on June 08, 2005, 04:48:15 PM
They have 600 pieces of evidence to review, four months' worth of testimony and four months' worth of notes to review. Then they have to discuss.

People that expected a verdict on the first, second or even third day were living in the clouds.!!

it could be on friday...or even next week! u never know!!
Title: Re: [poll] Michael Jackson Verdict Due Any Moment - Predictions/Opinion Poll
Post by: Eddie G. on June 08, 2005, 04:56:39 PM
i honestly have no idea...havent been following the case too closely...
Title: Re: [poll] Michael Jackson Verdict Due Any Day Now - Predictions/Opinion Poll
Post by: -CaliKid- on June 08, 2005, 06:00:04 PM
free as a bird
Title: Re: [poll] Michael Jackson Verdict Due Any Day Now - Predictions/Opinion Poll
Post by: Thuglife on June 08, 2005, 06:40:21 PM
if only i gave a fuck
Title: Re: [poll] Michael Jackson Verdict Due Any Day Now - Predictions/Opinion Poll
Post by: Thuglife on June 08, 2005, 06:41:09 PM
actually i hope hes aquitted so his fucking groupies can shut the fuck up and stop looking like retards
Title: Re: [poll] Michael Jackson Verdict Due Any Day Now - Predictions/Opinion Poll
Post by: Cordless on June 08, 2005, 07:50:03 PM
dont give a fuk
more important shit in the world to worry about
Title: Re: [poll] Michael Jackson Verdict Due Any Moment - Predictions/Opinion Poll
Post by: Trauma-san on June 08, 2005, 08:41:36 PM
i put on the news as soon as i saw "any moment now", the only thing they said was that one of the jury members has NEVER heard, seen, or read about michael jackson in his life..... :o

has he/she been in a coma or something?

imagine the other jurors trying to explain...

Yeah, lol. 
Title: Re: [poll] Michael Jackson Verdict Due Any Moment - Predictions/Opinion Poll
Post by: Trauma-san on June 08, 2005, 08:44:19 PM
I don't know. There's obviously a struggle since it's taking so long.

Not really... the judge has layed down very strict rules they have to try him with.  They have to deliberate about various charges and particular distinctions, and then if they answer this question this way, they have to look at this aspect this way, etc.... plus they ALL have to agree, so it just takes a while.  It's not as simple as just deciding what you think, you have to go through 140 witnesses, for instance, and mention and review all of their testimony, etc. so it's a long convoluted process in a case this large.  All it takes, too, is 1 juror on the panel to be a Jackson fan, and they will NEVER get a guilty verdict on a 'reasonable doubt' charge.  I've got a whole HELL of a lot of Reasonable Doubt about the charges, if I was on the jury, he'd walk because I'd never agree to send him to prison and take his children away from him with no concrete evidence. 
Title: Re: [poll] Michael Jackson Verdict Due Any Day Now - Predictions/Opinion Poll
Post by: rafsta on June 08, 2005, 10:26:21 PM
i honestly have no idea...


Title: Re: [poll] Michael Jackson Verdict Due Any Day Now - Predictions/Opinion Poll
Post by: Gangstauu on June 09, 2005, 05:01:47 AM
he deserves death penalty, if its true what he did (I think it is)
but he'll prolly go free, cause the jury are worried about their children when he comes out if they say he's guilty
Title: Re: [poll] Michael Jackson Verdict Due Any Day Now - Predictions/Opinion Poll
Post by: Elevz on June 09, 2005, 05:05:25 AM
Innocent, but the alcohol thingy's going to get him a short jail time anyway  :o
Title: Re: [poll] Michael Jackson Verdict Due Any Day Now - Predictions/Opinion Poll
Post by: Don Seer on June 09, 2005, 05:59:31 AM
^ u know.. the alcohol thing may pass too.. reading the charges its actually that he used alcohol as a tool to commit the crime.. whereas if he's innocent of the crime.. then the alcohol thing cant stick either as they're linked...
Title: Re: [poll] Michael Jackson Verdict Due Any Moment - Predictions/Opinion Poll
Post by: Shallow on June 09, 2005, 06:53:32 AM
I don't know. There's obviously a struggle since it's taking so long.

  All it takes, too, is 1 juror on the panel to be a Jackson fan, and they will NEVER get a guilty verdict on a 'reasonable doubt' charge.  I've got a whole HELL of a lot of Reasonable Doubt about the charges, if I was on the jury, he'd walk because I'd never agree to send him to prison and take his children away from him with no concrete evidence. 

Yeah but you'd never make the jury. The second he walks out and you give a high pitched squealing "Michael I love you" then try and cover up your erection, the judge would deem you unfit to be on the jury.

Seriously though, the courts go through extensive searches to find people with no opinion on MJ one way or the other. That guy that doesn't know who he is was perfect for it. (Maybe he was from one of those Amish communities where there is no TV or Newspapers. It would explain why he wouldn't know him).

For the record; If I was on the jury I'd have to find him not guilty. There was no undeniable proof presented. The DA really didn't do a hell of a job before taking this to court. But hey were still better than the dummies that tried to sue Vince McMahon. They screwed up that case big time. I hate it when a stupid DA takes an open and shut case and screw it up completely. In this case it shouldn't have went to court. If your main witnesses each have contradictory and conflicting testimonies you really can't win.
Title: Re: [poll] Michael Jackson Verdict Due Any Day Now - Predictions/Opinion Poll
Post by: Don Seer on June 09, 2005, 07:58:28 AM
^ yes you're right it shouldnt have gotten this far.. thing is _by law_ this case had to go to court since any child abuse/molestation accusations now _have_ to be tried in court under changes to state law
Title: Re: [poll] Michael Jackson Verdict Due Any Moment - Predictions/Opinion Poll
Post by: Bomb-A® on June 09, 2005, 08:07:30 AM
i honestly have no idea...havent been following the case too closely...
Title: Re: [poll] Michael Jackson Verdict Due Any Day Now - Predictions/Opinion Poll
Post by: rafsta on June 09, 2005, 09:27:28 AM
theres new shit comin up anyway, something like michael used to hide some kid in his suitcase to sneak him into hotels, but still no accusations of molestation.