West Coast Connection Forum
Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: rafsta on July 10, 2005, 05:27:59 AM
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i dont think hip-hop will die, but iits obvious it will evolve in the next 20 years to something that only merely resembles what we like today...
what will our kids think is embarrasing about our music ? and did the hip-hop industry create another shit-house dress trend like in the 80's ? im talkin about what they wear in the south n shit, bright blue yellow colours etc oversized to the point that 5 people could fit in one suit, with huge chains (i dont like that any of that shit), i think that kind of shit gives hip-hop a bad image...
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hiphop will be in 20 years what disco is today
peace
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The image of Hiphop is plain disgusting. Everyone who doesnt really know Hiphop has a right to find it embarrassing, cause the way it is depicted by the media / portrays itself is plain ridiculous, unfortunately.
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White People>Ras Kass
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hip hop will be all there is....den the apocalypse will come
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^No.
Anyways, I don't know how it's gonna be, but all I know is that it's gonna be way worse than it is now I mean everything is going to played out, lyrics..type of beats...so I don't know what type of subject matter they are gonna rap about ..
And I agree that hip hop is giving out a bad image but its cause once people hear stuff in the media about these mainstreams rappers talkinga bout sex, drugs, violence their whole mindset of hip-hop is just that...
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It will either redeem itself and become a legitimate artform
or most likely blend into the other existing genres and cease to exist.
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i hope it does evolve, hiphop died like 7 or 8 years ago now everyone puts out the same old garbage which is why i rarely listen to new hiphop
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There might be a heavy influx of white artist doing creative goofy new things till the point the hip hop is a boring, tacky genre performed by weird white men, like what happened with jazz. thats why i dont listen to anticon.
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a boring, tacky genre performed by weird white men, like what happened with jazz.
lmao, so true. I love Jazz music, but I can't watch it live, it's just wierd seeing a bunch of garfunkels playin it.
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lol @ garfunkels
I dont want to think about where hip hop will be.
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There might be a heavy influx of white artist doing creative goofy new things till the point the hip hop is a boring, tacky genre performed by weird white men, like what happened with jazz. thats why i dont listen to anticon.
Jazz and hip hop may not be a good comparison. Hip Hop is more like a modern day Blues, and if "white people" as you said it can change hip hop like they did the Blues I'd be all for it.
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Why? Why on earth would you be ok with that at all? That is probably some of the most ignorant shit I've heard.
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Why? Why on earth would you be ok with that at all? That is probably some of the most ignorant shit I've heard.
The Rolling Stones, Aerosmith, The Allman Brothers, Led Zeppelin, Steppenwolf, Eric Clapton, The Band, The Doors, Black Sabbath, Janis Joplin, etc. all took the blues and kicked it up a notch. Was it better than the music by BB King, Howlin' Wolf, Robert Johnson, John Lee Hooker, Willie Dixon etc, ? That's a matter of taste, but no way was it worse. It was a nice change that lead to a lot of great songs and albums.
I'm not sure where to plave Stevie Ray Vaughn, but he was among the best of both sides.
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hip hop will be dead. but snoop dogg will still be doing shows, in a weelchair
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The thing is Aerosmith, etc. get remembered not as blues musicians but rock musicians, everyone forgets about the blues. i dont wanna see that happen to hip hop.
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The thing is Aerosmith, etc. get remembered not as blues musicians but rock musicians, everyone forgets about the blues. i dont wanna see that happen to hip hop.
Well thanks to G Unit, The Game, 50, etc, it already is happening. The true hip hop artists of the past and present are disgusted by the current state. And Blues became Rock way beefor eAeromsith got a hold of it. First it became Rhythm and Blues and then the name changed to Rock n Roll when the Country influences got involved. Then bands like the Beatles and other british acts reformed the RnB/Rock sound, while Zep and other took from more traditional Blues sounds. Guys like John Lee Hooker and Muddy Waters were long gone in the main steam by the time Zep came up, but they were also out of the picture way before that when Chuck Berry and Little Richard came up. Blues and Country were the pionners of Rock and Roll, since Rock and Roll, it's all Rock and Roll. Whether it's pop, hip hop, metal or Punk, it's still rock and roll. Ask Chuck D if you don't believe me.
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^yup
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hiphop will be in 20 years what disco is today
peace
ahha no man i dont think soo hip hop is growing so much year after year it wont die that fast
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If the image of hip-hop continues the way it is now, it will be dead. But you can't say that for sure. Back in the 80's people thought it was just a fad, nver a genre. So you'll just have to wait 20 years for such an answer. 8)
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music of the past
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More importantly, what will our kids be listening to? The mainstream buyers back in the late 80s and early 90s were kids looking to rebel against their parents. It's a scary thought because rap can be one of the most degrading and violent artforms at times.
But it's really hard to tell what hip hop will be like in 20 years or how it the music released now will be precieved then. Just ask the people that remeber 25 years ago when hip hop first started. They'll tell you the artform lost it's way and became watered down mush. And you can tell already that the substance is leaving hip hop more and more. But what really makes a genre is the politics surrounding it. In the 50s, WWII ended and music turned lighter because it was happy times. In the 60s and 70s, Vietnam created a whole new type of music about "expanding ones mind". In the 80s, you had metal, hair, and grunge rockers that wanted to rebel against the system that Regan built. Same with the early 90s. Now, because of the stock market boom (and decline), we are kind of stuck in a segue of materalistic values and other such meaningless things. But it's really hard to say. As long as there is still respect for the music, like I respect all the music that came before my era, that's all that really matters. And there are tons of us that share the knowledge on these forums, so I doubt the spirit will ever die out in my lifetime.
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da next generation of music will be electronic n techno.....bottom line
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Techno has had its day.
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hip hops dead to me, and just gets worse and worse each year. 20 years it won't be around.
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i noticed gay people were rappin in north hollywood...hahah.....
maybe hip -hop will be "gay." haha
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'Well,it's hiphop,Jim,but not as we know it...'
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Hip Hop is already dead.
Make place for the new Hip Pop.
This is shit, the real rap can't gat regocnition no mo. Everybody wanna hear easy lyrics on easy beats. If you gotta think when your listening to music then it's not good, you gotta make people dance and learn the lyrics in 10 min to make a hit nowadays. I think the real artists who put work in their lyrics and in their production are very agry right now.
All of this started we Master P and the Cash Money (who were not that bad), and then you got Lil Jon and G-Unit (who are not great for hip hop). They made hip hop look so simple to do, taht now everybody think he can rap or produce.
In 20 years, the real rappers will be young poets and the Hip Popers will be musicians.
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I agree with what Shallow said about it being in actuality just another form of Rock & Roll. Rock & Roll dies whenever it stops being youthful, energetic, rebellious, exciting, etc. and Hip Hop has stopped being all of that. I don't like new rock, and I don't like new Hip Hop. Of course there's exceptions, but the talent and creativity that launched Rock & Roll (Little Richard, Chuck Berry, Elvis Pressley, Jerry Lee Lewis, Bill Haley, etc.) is the same creativity that launched Hip Hop. Just like 10 years after it's inception, Rock was still doing creative and original things (Elvis, The Beatles, The Doors, Led Zeppelin, Brian Wilson, etc.), 10 years after Hip Hop's inception, it was still doing creative things, too (Dr. Dre, Snoop, Deathrow, even Puffy's shit was better than what's out now). I think ultimately hip hop will die a painful death, not only because the creativity is gone, but because more than any other musical genre, it's been exceedingly negative, and many times doesn't focus on the positive side of life, which is what people deep down relate to. Even people in the hood dream about leaving the hood, they don't dream about dying in the streets.
As for the hiphop fashion, yeah, I think they look like fucking clowns. I laugh my ass off when I see some guy walk by with his pants around his knees and his boxers showing, or some big ass t-shirt that's twice too long on. Looks rediculous, and yeah it gives hiphop a bad name.
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As for the hiphop fashion, yeah, I think they look like fucking clowns. I laugh my ass off when I see some guy walk by with his pants around his knees and his boxers showing, or some big ass t-shirt that's twice too long on. Looks rediculous, and yeah it gives hiphop a bad name.
You know how we look back at the 70s and laugh at the hair, the polysester suits, the bell bottoms etc.? That exactly how are kids are going to laugh when they look back at the late 90s and now and see pictures and videos of all these dumb kids dressed exactly as you described.
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I think it'll be worse. If I saw somebody dressed up as a flat out hippy I wouldn't laugh as hard as I do when I see these assclowns.
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I think it'll be worse. If I saw somebody dressed up as a flat out hippy I wouldn't laugh as hard as I do when I see these assclowns.
Maybe, but Hippies aren't that bad, think about a 70s polyester body suit with the chest open and a mullet or white-fro. That's pretty bad.
Don't get me wrong, I'd still dress like that over baggy pants under my ass and a sideways hat.