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Title: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: Drudge on July 29, 2005, 12:27:48 PM

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Mos calls out Suge Knight. You've read right. The Mighty Mos Def called out infamous Death Row mogul Suge Knight during a recent performance at Los Angeles' Hollywood Bowl night club. Prior to performing a song he said was inspired by Tupac Shakur's mother, Afeni, Pretty Flaco stepped to the front of the stage and yelled out, "Who killed my man, Suge?" Although, Suge was not in attendance, the BKNY lyricist repeated the question several times before declaring, "We fear nothing." Mos then went into the song, which featured him playing piano. He ended the cut by yelling, "Who killed Big, Pac, Jam Master Jay." Mos then concluded by demanding, "Just tell us who did it, Suge. Let's stop all this bullsh!t

Good For Mos...
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: GangstaBoogy on July 29, 2005, 12:43:26 PM
that sounds pretty immature. and he you can tell he was just looking for attention (like most rappers)...

...and it worked!
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: Sikotic™ on July 29, 2005, 12:47:40 PM
Someone's been drinkin again...
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: Don Breezio on July 29, 2005, 12:52:39 PM
i dont think it was immature....why would mos def be looking for attention? the dude is very well known....if he had dissed 50 cent or some shit i'd agree with you....but since they caught bigs killer i dont think theres anything wrong with what he said
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: Wicked977 on July 29, 2005, 01:35:42 PM
I think he's fucking up
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: Javier on July 29, 2005, 01:46:23 PM
i dont think it was immature....why would mos def be looking for attention? the dude is very well known....if he had dissed 50 cent or some shit i'd agree with you....but since they caught bigs killer i dont think theres anything wrong with what he said
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: Fonky Fresh on July 30, 2005, 09:36:10 AM
suge deserves disses only(mature or not)
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: GangstaBoogy on July 30, 2005, 12:54:00 PM
i dont think it was immature....why would mos def be looking for attention? the dude is very well known....if he had dissed 50 cent or some shit i'd agree with you....but since they caught bigs killer i dont think theres anything wrong with what he said

mos def is not as well known as you think. yeah dissing 50 would be for attention too, but dissing someone with suge's reputation is even bigger. why? cuz for some reason...everyone is scared of suge
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: Don Breezio on July 30, 2005, 01:14:40 PM
Mos Def is not well known? I know more people who know who mos def is than people who know who knocturnal is. Mos Def is bigger than you think.
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: WestCoasta on July 30, 2005, 06:20:08 PM
Someone's been drinkin again...
:laugh:

geez, sound kinda embarassing on his part, he musta looked like an idiot
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: Mr. Humonculous on July 30, 2005, 10:50:58 PM
fuck suge
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: GangstaBoogy on July 31, 2005, 01:09:47 PM
Mos Def is not well known? I know more people who know who mos def is than people who know who knocturnal is. Mos Def is bigger than you think.

i said he's not as well known as you think. knocturnal is a nobody. lets do it like 50, go to other countries & see how many people know mos def.

dissing suge knight = attention getter
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: Don Breezio on July 31, 2005, 01:12:07 PM
Mos Def is not well known? I know more people who know who mos def is than people who know who knocturnal is. Mos Def is bigger than you think.

i said he's not as well known as you think. knocturnal is a nobody. lets do it like 50, go to other countries & see how many people know mos def.

dissing suge knight = attention getter

When has mos def ever been the type of rapper to want attention? Did you ever think about how many people on here are from other countries....and they all know who mos def is....give the guy a little more credit and stop being so ignorant
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: eKardz on July 31, 2005, 01:14:47 PM
i never thought mos would stoop to this level.  hes just like everyone else, tryin to sell records callin out big names
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: On The Edge of Insanity on July 31, 2005, 01:33:03 PM
Hes not attention seeking at all. Mos is from Brooklyn, Biggie was like Brooklyn's golden child, is Mos not allowed to say fuck you to someone linked with the murder of Biggie, who I guess was probably an influence on every rapper coming out of Brooklyn? If you really think hes doing it for attention then you've obviously never listened to a Mos Def record.
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: authentic on July 31, 2005, 01:35:31 PM
i dont think it was immature....why would mos def be looking for attention? the dude is very well known....if he had dissed 50 cent or some shit i'd agree with you....but since they caught bigs killer i dont think theres anything wrong with what he said
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: Don Breezio on July 31, 2005, 01:39:03 PM
Hes not attention seeking at all. Mos is from Brooklyn, Biggie was like Brooklyn's golden child, is Mos not allowed to say fuck you to someone linked with the murder of Biggie, who I guess was probably an influence on every rapper coming out of Brooklyn? If you really think hes doing it for attention then you've obviously never listened to a Mos Def record.

Thank You!
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: Theodore on July 31, 2005, 01:41:04 PM
Mos Def is not well known? I know more people who know who mos def is than people who know who knocturnal is. Mos Def is bigger than you think.

i said he's not as well known as you think. knocturnal is a nobody. lets do it like 50, go to other countries & see how many people know mos def.

dissing suge knight = attention getter

so when ur (in)famous you may not diss the particalur person or you're an attention-wanter? that's just stupid..
rastaman is right IMO
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: eKardz on July 31, 2005, 02:01:02 PM
Hes not attention seeking at all. Mos is from Brooklyn, Biggie was like Brooklyn's golden child, is Mos not allowed to say fuck you to someone linked with the murder of Biggie, who I guess was probably an influence on every rapper coming out of Brooklyn? If you really think hes doing it for attention then you've obviously never listened to a Mos Def record.

i own all of mos defs albums, me and a handful of other people and thats it.  hes just tryin to stir up controversy, just cause he from brooklyn dont mean shit, he doin it for attention.  he tryni to sell records.
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: Don Breezio on July 31, 2005, 02:04:58 PM
Hes not attention seeking at all. Mos is from Brooklyn, Biggie was like Brooklyn's golden child, is Mos not allowed to say fuck you to someone linked with the murder of Biggie, who I guess was probably an influence on every rapper coming out of Brooklyn? If you really think hes doing it for attention then you've obviously never listened to a Mos Def record.

i own all of mos defs albums, me and a handful of other people and thats it.  hes just tryin to stir up controversy, just cause he from brooklyn dont mean shit, he doin it for attention.  he tryni to sell records.

The Brooklyn MC scored his highest-ever chart debut with his second solo album, The New Danger, selling more than 95,000 copies to open at #5 on next week's Billboard albums
chart. Mos' last album, Black on Both Sides, bowed at #25 back in October 1999, selling more than 53,000 copies, according to SoundScan.

--MTV.com

Yeah....you and a handfull of other people  ::)
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: eKardz on July 31, 2005, 02:10:31 PM
Hes not attention seeking at all. Mos is from Brooklyn, Biggie was like Brooklyn's golden child, is Mos not allowed to say fuck you to someone linked with the murder of Biggie, who I guess was probably an influence on every rapper coming out of Brooklyn? If you really think hes doing it for attention then you've obviously never listened to a Mos Def record.

i own all of mos defs albums, me and a handful of other people and thats it.  hes just tryin to stir up controversy, just cause he from brooklyn dont mean shit, he doin it for attention.  he tryni to sell records.

The Brooklyn MC scored his highest-ever chart debut with his second solo album, The New Danger, selling more than 95,000 copies to open at #5 on next week's Billboard albums
chart. Mos' last album, Black on Both Sides, bowed at #25 back in October 1999, selling more than 53,000 copies, according to SoundScan.

--MTV.com

Yeah....you and a handfull of other people  ::)
it was a figure of speach jackass.  has he ever went platinum....nope
ever even eclipsed 800k?

 ::)
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: Don Breezio on July 31, 2005, 02:12:54 PM
Hes not attention seeking at all. Mos is from Brooklyn, Biggie was like Brooklyn's golden child, is Mos not allowed to say fuck you to someone linked with the murder of Biggie, who I guess was probably an influence on every rapper coming out of Brooklyn? If you really think hes doing it for attention then you've obviously never listened to a Mos Def record.

i own all of mos defs albums, me and a handful of other people and thats it.  hes just tryin to stir up controversy, just cause he from brooklyn dont mean shit, he doin it for attention.  he tryni to sell records.

The Brooklyn MC scored his highest-ever chart debut with his second solo album, The New Danger, selling more than 95,000 copies to open at #5 on next week's Billboard albums
chart. Mos' last album, Black on Both Sides, bowed at #25 back in October 1999, selling more than 53,000 copies, according to SoundScan.

--MTV.com

Yeah....you and a handfull of other people  ::)
it was a figure of speach jackass.  has he ever went platinum....nope
ever even eclipsed 800k?

 ::)

no he hasn't....which should prove the fact that he's not just trying to get attention. He has the talent to do it if he wanted to. But instead he'd rather make real shit.
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: Lucien on July 31, 2005, 03:44:39 PM
suge deserves disses only(mature or not)
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: 7even on July 31, 2005, 03:49:42 PM
Well fuck Suge. Whoever is dissin him is doin a good thing. Like me: Fuck Suge. I just did a good thing. No matter if it is mature, immature, rude, calm, whatever. You diss Suge you do something good and make the world a better place.
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: SGV on July 31, 2005, 06:46:59 PM
Let's be real here. Mos Def calling out Suge at a Concert in L.A. is a PERFECT example of trying to stir up contraversy. If he wasn't try to stir up contraversy, he would approach Suge himself. But he won't. So, he's gonna make statements to the Public at a Concert at the Hollywood Bowl where nothing can or will happen to him.

Yes, he does have a right to say Fuck Suge. But, of course, he IS doing this to cause contraversy, otherwise he'd be a man and say it to Suge directly.
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: GangstaBoogy on July 31, 2005, 06:50:03 PM
Let's be real here. Mos Def calling out Suge at a Concert in L.A. is a PERFECT example of trying to stir up contraversy. If he wasn't try to stir up contraversy, he would approach Suge himself. But he won't. So, he's gonna make statements to the Public at a Concert at the Hollywood Bowl where nothing can or will happen to him.

Yes, he does have a right to say Fuck Suge. But, of course, he IS doing this to cause contraversy, otherwise he'd be a man and say it to Suge directly.

touch down!

this should put the muzzle on some of yall for a while
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: Da WCC Hopar! on August 01, 2005, 01:08:19 AM
fuck suge
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: Don Jacob on August 01, 2005, 03:07:15 AM
i'd say the same thing too
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: W-Side on August 01, 2005, 05:02:38 AM
Let's be real here. Mos Def calling out Suge at a Concert in L.A. is a PERFECT example of trying to stir up contraversy. If he wasn't try to stir up contraversy, he would approach Suge himself. But he won't. So, he's gonna make statements to the Public at a Concert at the Hollywood Bowl where nothing can or will happen to him.

Yes, he does have a right to say Fuck Suge. But, of course, he IS doing this to cause contraversy, otherwise he'd be a man and say it to Suge directly.

thing is, Suge knows what he did, if he had somebody killed he decided, wanted to, he won'r regret it just cause some rapper tells him "fuck you, you killed my man", he could give a fuck less about that. Mos Def saying it to the public means drawing people's attention to the 'fact' (whether it is or not) that Suge had his man killed. He wants people to hate Suge for it and therefore damage Suge. Saying it to Suge's face won't bother him, if he did it he obviously thinks it was the right thing. If he Mos Def let's people in LA know, it might help make people loose the rest of respect some might still have for Suge for being involved into a great era for west coast hiphop.

so it doesn't necessarily have to be Mos Def looking for attention for himself, just for the message "fuck suge" cause he killed someone he liked.
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: SGV on August 01, 2005, 12:44:01 PM
^Do you realize that made no sense?

Anyone making their "beef" public is seeking attention. Why would Mos Def try to make L.A. turn on Suge? If they haven't turned on Suge yet, they never will. Especially for something that happened 8 years ago.

Mos Def = Attention Whore for this.
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: BacktoWacko on August 01, 2005, 12:48:35 PM
I say mos def sux as much as his last album sucked. so fuck him...
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: W-Side on August 02, 2005, 06:39:57 AM
^Do you realize that made no sense?

Anyone making their "beef" public is seeking attention. Why would Mos Def try to make L.A. turn on Suge? If they haven't turned on Suge yet, they never will. Especially for something that happened 8 years ago.

Mos Def = Attention Whore for this.

you ask me "Why would Mos Def try to make L.A. turn on Suge" after readin this article and tell me about something making sense ?   lol...

Mos Def obviously thinks suge is responsible for biggies death, ain't that a motivation right there.. "who killed my man, .. tell me suge !" <-- did you overlook that part ?

and alotta people who still respect suge think all that negative shit you hear abot him are mainly rumors, so if you tell em how it now turned out to be proven as extremely likely that suge has something to do with biggies death it might convince them, whether it was 8 years ago or not, if the reason they ain't yet "turned" on suge was that they never believed that shit.
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: BacktoWacko on August 02, 2005, 10:31:08 AM
^Do you realize that made no sense?

Anyone making their "beef" public is seeking attention. Why would Mos Def try to make L.A. turn on Suge? If they haven't turned on Suge yet, they never will. Especially for something that happened 8 years ago.

Mos Def = Attention Whore for this.

you ask me "Why would Mos Def try to make L.A. turn on Suge" after readin this article and tell me about something making sense ?   lol...

Mos Def obviously thinks suge is responsible for biggies death, ain't that a motivation right there.. "who killed my man, .. tell me suge !" <-- did you overlook that part ?

and alotta people who still respect suge think all that negative shit you hear abot him are mainly rumors, so if you tell em how it now turned out to be proven as extremely likely that suge has something to do with biggies death it might convince them, whether it was 8 years ago or not, if the reason they ain't yet "turned" on suge was that they never believed that shit.

hey I give suge every right to kill biggy at that time (atleast if suge didnt kill 2pac) ever heard eye for an eye... or if you take one of mine I take one of yours like nas said.. and hell yeah mos def is a suck ass.. for talking shit like that.. if his some real shit let him go to suge and say it to his face..
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: SGV on August 02, 2005, 11:34:19 AM

you ask me "Why would Mos Def try to make L.A. turn on Suge" after readin this article and tell me about something making sense ?   lol...

Mos Def obviously thinks suge is responsible for biggies death, ain't that a motivation right there.. "who killed my man, .. tell me suge !" <-- did you overlook that part ?

and alotta people who still respect suge think all that negative shit you hear abot him are mainly rumors, so if you tell em how it now turned out to be proven as extremely likely that suge has something to do with biggies death it might convince them, whether it was 8 years ago or not, if the reason they ain't yet "turned" on suge was that they never believed that shit.

None of that matters. L.A. won't turn on Suge for killing Biggie if they didn't turn on him for killing Pac. Mos Def = Attention Whore.
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: Like A N!gga Say Do on August 02, 2005, 02:23:44 PM
Mos Def is an idiot. There's no real proof that Suge was behind all this. You can't just make false accusations like that. Fuck him, he wasnt pac's or biggie's homie.
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: W-Side on August 02, 2005, 03:43:21 PM

you ask me "Why would Mos Def try to make L.A. turn on Suge" after readin this article and tell me about something making sense ?   lol...

Mos Def obviously thinks suge is responsible for biggies death, ain't that a motivation right there.. "who killed my man, .. tell me suge !" <-- did you overlook that part ?

and alotta people who still respect suge think all that negative shit you hear abot him are mainly rumors, so if you tell em how it now turned out to be proven as extremely likely that suge has something to do with biggies death it might convince them, whether it was 8 years ago or not, if the reason they ain't yet "turned" on suge was that they never believed that shit.

None of that matters. L.A. won't turn on Suge for killing Biggie if they didn't turn on him for killing Pac. Mos Def = Attention Whore.

pretty much everybody's convinced anderson killed pac and many rappers confirmed it pretending they know it. Not many believe suge killed pac, way more think he killed biggie though.

anyway, all you say is "they won't turn on suge" which is your guess but it's pointless to repeat that shit again and again. You implied that it doesn't make sense to say that shit in public instead of saying it to suge's face, which is false. Of course Mos Def might do this for attention, I never implied he didn't but that doesn't matter, I just pointed out that it's untrue that he necessarily did it for attention just cause he's yellin it on stage instead of saying it to suge's face. Neither you nor me nor mos def know for a fact whether this could change people's views in suge if they didn't know about it before. So a possible motivation for him to say it in public, other than gettin attention, does exist.
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: SGV on August 02, 2005, 04:09:51 PM
It doesn't make sense. Cuz at the end of the day: Making Beefs Public Is An Attention Grabber.

Mos Def did that for the attention, PERIOD!
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: 7even on August 02, 2005, 04:52:57 PM
So if I give, on camera; in court, evidence that some dude killed some dude, I do it for attention? ;D
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: SGV on August 02, 2005, 05:23:25 PM
So if I give, on camera; in court, evidence that some dude killed some dude, I do it for attention? ;D

No, that's snitching.
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: Thirteen on August 02, 2005, 08:32:34 PM
So if I give, on camera; in court, evidence that some dude killed some dude, I do it for attention? ;D

where's mos def's evidence?

he has none...

it's more like during the michael jackson trial, you went into your school and said MJ was guilty of molesting those kids.... there's little reason behind it besides being emotional and wanting attention
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: GangstaBoogy on August 03, 2005, 02:12:44 AM
Mos Def is an idiot. There's no real proof that Suge was behind all this. You can't just make false accusations like that. Fuck him, he wasnt pac's or biggie's homie.

thank you
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: W-Side on August 03, 2005, 03:13:17 AM
It doesn't make sense. Cuz at the end of the day: Making Beefs Public Is An Attention Grabber.

Mos Def did that for the attention, PERIOD!
a statement should be read properly before it can be judged regarding the sense it made or made not. I don't care whether Mos def did this for attention and I never said anything that implied he did or did not do it for attention. Fact is, "a possible motivation for him to say it in public, other than gettin attention, does exist", and saying it doesn't, like you did, is a lie, period.
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: SGV on August 03, 2005, 10:02:18 AM
Na... That is not motivation, because Mos Def has no REAL proof. He's throwing dirt on a mans name in public. Thats a cry for attention.

Mos Def = Attention Whore.
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: W-Side on August 03, 2005, 02:15:28 PM
He's throwing dirt on a mans name in public.
exactly, and you don't throw dirt on a mans name by saying it to his face, so if throwing dirt on suge's name to make people jump on it and dislike that person too, is the way to go for somebody who has that goal. motivation does exist.

when paris is throwing dirt on bush's name (without no REAL proof either) you call that being an attention whore and advice him to say it to bush's face ? there's no POINT in saying it to his face. Most people dislike suge already, oh well most of paris audience dislike bush too. Does it stop him from saying it in public ? nah, he wants his message (fuck bush) to be heard out there, and he wants every last dude who might be listeing to be convinced. Do you have REAL proof it's different with Mos Def's motivation ? if so provide it, otherwise, stop lying.
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: GangstaBoogy on August 03, 2005, 06:03:25 PM
He's throwing dirt on a mans name in public.
exactly, and you don't throw dirt on a mans name by saying it to his face, so if throwing dirt on suge's name to make people jump on it and dislike that person too, is the way to go for somebody who has that goal. motivation does exist.

when paris is throwing dirt on bush's name (without no REAL proof either) you call that being an attention whore and advice him to say it to bush's face ? there's no POINT in saying it to his face. Most people dislike suge already, oh well most of paris audience dislike bush too. Does it stop him from saying it in public ? nah, he wants his message (fuck bush) to be heard out there, and he wants every last dude who might be listeing to be convinced. Do you have REAL proof it's different with Mos Def's motivation ? if so provide it, otherwise, stop lying.

you sound like a lil bitch right now. if mos def said it to suge's face it wouldnt've been made public. they coulda talked about it & sqaushed it alone. when mos said suge's name he knew this would get his name on the top hiphop sites
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: W-Side on August 04, 2005, 01:55:13 AM
exactly, and you don't throw dirt on a mans name by saying it to his face, so if throwing dirt on suge's name to make people jump on it and dislike that person too, is the way to go for somebody who has that goal. motivation does exist.

when paris is throwing dirt on bush's name (without no REAL proof either) you call that being an attention whore and advice him to say it to bush's face ? there's no POINT in saying it to his face. Most people dislike suge already, oh well most of paris audience dislike bush too. Does it stop him from saying it in public ? nah, he wants his message (fuck bush) to be heard out there, and he wants every last dude who might be listeing to be convinced. Do you have REAL proof it's different with Mos Def's motivation ? if so provide it, otherwise, stop lying.

you sound like a lil bitch right now. if mos def said it to suge's face it wouldnt've been made public. they coulda talked about it & sqaushed it alone. when mos said suge's name he knew this would get his name on the top hiphop sites
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lol I love the way kids make up for missimg arguments wit shit like "you sound like a lil bitch". Hopefully you're as young as you sound (judging from your 'argumentation' and comprehension).
I'ma try one more time, after that I'ma do it the sgv way and just repeat the same post.

they coulda talkted about it & suqashed it alone
^^ possibility #1: Mos Def: "suge, you asshole you killed my man"; Suge: "watch your mouth yo, you dunno what you talkin bout, I HAD to do it" Mos Def: "hmm aight then"

possibility #2: Mos Def: "suge, you asshole you killed my man"; Suge: "the fuck you talkin about, it wasn't me" Mos Def: "oh.. aight then, nevermind"

suge will NOT admit to killin biggie, whether or not he did it, knowing that, it is factually impossible for Mos Def to squash it wit a talk. He could try and whoop his ass.. talkin ? pointless. what the hell are you thinkin saying "it wouldnt've been made public" acting like that's a good thing for him if his goal is making suge look bad and making people turn on him.

Mos Def dislkes Suge and the ONLY way to make him look bad and make others share is opinion is to speak on it in public. "if mos def said it to suge's face it wouldnt've been made public." yes, and guess what, that woulda meant he FAILED with his goal of making suge look bad. If mos def truthfully hates suge (which you can't prove he doesn't) and wants to make him look bad because of that, then doin it in public is THE ONLY thing he can do, how the fuck you gonna make somebody look bad without people knowing. The attention he's gettin is unavoidable if he, himself, wants to make suge look bad. He might do it mainly or only for the attention, but since there is another possible reason too, we can NOT tell.

I know, if you respond at all it will be one sentence without content like your previous one, ignoring all points and just repeating what you said before, backed up by nothin, so go ahead.
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: Thirteen on August 04, 2005, 02:08:16 AM

lol I love the way kids make up for missimg arguments wit shit like "you sound like a lil bitch". Hopefully you're as young as you sound (judging from your 'argumentation' and comprehension).
I'ma try one more time, after that I'ma do it the sgv way and just repeat the same post.

they coulda talkted about it & suqashed it alone
^^ possibility #1: Mos Def: "suge, you asshole you killed my man"; Suge: "watch your mouth yo, you dunno what you talkin bout, I HAD to do it" Mos Def: "hmm aight then"

possibility #2: Mos Def: "suge, you asshole you killed my man"; Suge: "the fuck you talkin about, it wasn't me" Mos Def: "oh.. aight then, nevermind"

suge will NOT admit to killin biggie, whether or not he did it, knowing that, it is factually impossible for Mos Def to squash it wit a talk. He could try and whoop his ass.. talkin ? pointless. what the hell are you thinkin saying "it wouldnt've been made public" acting like that's a good thing for him if his goal is making suge look bad and making people turn on him.

Mos Def dislkes Suge and the ONLY way to make him look bad and make others share is opinion is to speak on it in public. "if mos def said it to suge's face it wouldnt've been made public." yes, and guess what, that woulda meant he FAILED with his goal of making suge look bad. If mos def truthfully hates suge (which you can't prove he doesn't) and wants to make him look bad because of that, then doin it in public is THE ONLY thing he can do, how the fuck you gonna make somebody look bad without people knowing. The attention he's gettin is unavoidable if he, himself, wants to make suge look bad. He might do it mainly or only for the attention, but since there is another possible reason too, we can NOT tell.

I know, if you respond at all it will be one sentence without content like your previous one, ignoring all points and just repeating what you said before, backed up by nothin, so go ahead.

Subtitle: Mos Def did it for attention
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: W-Side on August 04, 2005, 04:43:55 AM

lol I love the way kids make up for missimg arguments wit shit like "you sound like a lil bitch". Hopefully you're as young as you sound (judging from your 'argumentation' and comprehension).
I'ma try one more time, after that I'ma do it the sgv way and just repeat the same post.

they coulda talkted about it & suqashed it alone
^^ possibility #1: Mos Def: "suge, you asshole you killed my man"; Suge: "watch your mouth yo, you dunno what you talkin bout, I HAD to do it" Mos Def: "hmm aight then"

possibility #2: Mos Def: "suge, you asshole you killed my man"; Suge: "the fuck you talkin about, it wasn't me" Mos Def: "oh.. aight then, nevermind"

suge will NOT admit to killin biggie, whether or not he did it, knowing that, it is factually impossible for Mos Def to squash it wit a talk. He could try and whoop his ass.. talkin ? pointless. what the hell are you thinkin saying "it wouldnt've been made public" acting like that's a good thing for him if his goal is making suge look bad and making people turn on him.

Mos Def dislkes Suge and the ONLY way to make him look bad and make others share is opinion is to speak on it in public. "if mos def said it to suge's face it wouldnt've been made public." yes, and guess what, that woulda meant he FAILED with his goal of making suge look bad. If mos def truthfully hates suge (which you can't prove he doesn't) and wants to make him look bad because of that, then doin it in public is THE ONLY thing he can do, how the fuck you gonna make somebody look bad without people knowing. The attention he's gettin is unavoidable if he, himself, wants to make suge look bad. He might do it mainly or only for the attention, but since there is another possible reason too, we can NOT tell.

I know, if you respond at all it will be one sentence without content like your previous one, ignoring all points and just repeating what you said before, backed up by nothin, so go ahead.

Subtitle: Mos Def did it for attention

how is that related to my post ? my guess is he did it for attention but

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I don't care whether Mos def did this for attention and I never said anything that implied he did or did not do it for attention. Fact is, "a possible motivation for him to say it in public, other than gettin attention, does exist", and saying it doesn't, like you SGV did, is a lie, period.
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: SGV on August 04, 2005, 07:58:00 PM
His motivation was getting attention.
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: Thirteen on August 04, 2005, 08:09:29 PM
fact is, Mos Def and any of the dead rappers that were mentioned were not friends....

when your friends get killed you don't wait 5 years to confront the person that "YOU KNOW" did it, on stage in front of a crowd... it doesn't solve shit. these people in the crowd aren't gonna hate suge...if they are a 2pac fan, they will still buy 2pac cd's from death row...nothing changes

Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: W-Side on August 05, 2005, 03:02:10 AM
fact is, Mos Def and any of the dead rappers that were mentioned were not friends....

when your friends get killed you don't wait 5 years to confront the person that "YOU KNOW" did it, on stage in front of a crowd... it doesn't solve shit. these people in the crowd aren't gonna hate suge...if they are a 2pac fan, they will still buy 2pac cd's from death row...nothing changes



alotta people who still respect suge think all that negative shit you hear abot him are mainly rumors, so if you tell em how it now turned out to be proven as extremely likely that suge has something to do with biggies death it might convince them, whether it was 8 years ago or not, if the reason they ain't yet "turned" on suge was that they never believed that shit.

it was recently reported that they found out who killed biggie and he is somehow connected with suge. Adressing this now, after all these years is not random.
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: Thirteen on August 05, 2005, 11:26:34 AM
it is random....he still does not know suge did it... no one knows suge did it or he'd be in court right now under conspiracy charges...and telling a crowd of people isn't going to do nothing.

these facts = ATTENTION  WHORE
Title: Re: Mos Def calls out Suge!!!!
Post by: W-Side on August 06, 2005, 05:06:21 AM
You don't know whether tellin a crowd won't do shit, and neither does mos def.
lol @ claiming you should only adress somethin if you got trial worthy proof. That would make all these rappers who accuse bush of doin the shit he did attention whores. If there was any of such proof bush would be in court right now too.

Sayin that shit in public actually makes more sense now, if there was 100% proof and Suge was charged he'd be sure to get what he deserves, while under the given circumstances, he'll get away wit it so tryin to turn every last dude against him is all that's left for mos def.

note, as I repeatedly stated before, I'm not saying that's how it is, it is a possibility though so claiming mos def should have said it to suge's face (which couldn't possibly do shit) is pointless.

I wouldn't have said shit to people who just say "mos def's an attention whore" cause I also think that's most likey the case. But when that sgv dude said mos def shoulda said it to suge's face, I had to point out that this is a stupid comment and that there IS a possible motivation other than gettin attention.